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The comparison camera: My 4 year-old Canon Ixus 300
This is how far behind the pace the Universal's camera is... :roll:
Lets be honest though, the universal isnt really marketed for having a great camera. Its good for taking quite snapshots, but if your are that serious about taking pictures, get a nokia N90 or a digital camera. Its not really the camera what is bad, its just the really bad, plastic lens what is.
Can your 4 year old Ixus make phone calls, browse the web, check your emails, listen to music, watch movies?!?!
I was going to post comparisons about how far behind my alienware laptop my Universal is when playing Halflife, but I couldn't get it to run on my Universal :lol:
lol - OK, don't take this out of context please.
Someone in another thread was curious about the camera's abilities,
so I posted these pics as an illustration, but they screwed up the other
thread so I moved them to a new one. (See? They're even screwing
up this one too! ) Maybe the pics are useful for people who are
curious about the Universal's camera.
The camera quality isn't the reason why someone would buy the
Universal (understatement of the year!), but people will be interested
to know just how good/bad it is. This thread is an objective
demonstration just for them. 8)
I carry a nice 3.2 MPx Casio Exilim S100 - small, loads of useful features and otherwise fills the camera niche. The Exec replaced my P900 + x50v setup. I now use the x50v for development testing.
No probs for me using the universal for photos!!
Sorry guys. I'm quite happy with my jasjar for photos (considering it ain't a dedicated digitl camera!!)
I'm sure that HTC could really put a better camera on the Universal and in all WM devices; the problem is that they don't care ....they have so much space that they can put the K750 i sonyericsson camera module :lol:
If you have a look at the first comparison shots at the top of the kitchen, the Universal shot is clearer than the canon shot, look at the clock on the stove, the universal shot is clearer, you can hardly read the canon pic.
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mackaby007 said:
Sorry guys. I'm quite happy with my jasjar for photos (considering it ain't a dedicated digitl camera!!)
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woah!!!!!! this is realllllllyyyy gooooddd!!!!
I guess its built to handle outdoors really well!
@seal
the point is, they are taken at different resolutions....what you need to see in the comparison is, the color quality and richness....!
San
Yes you are right there.....
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@seal
the point is, they are taken at different resolutions....what you need
to see in the comparison is, the color quality and richness....!
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No no no!
Two of the pictures (the small ones) are taken at the same resolution
so that we can directly compare them! The Canon shot is a thumbnail.
Click on it to get the 640x480 version to match the 640x480 Universal
pic.
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SiliconS said:
dreamtheater39 said:
@seal
the point is, they are taken at different resolutions....what you need
to see in the comparison is, the color quality and richness....!
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No no no!
Two of the pictures (the small ones) are taken at the same resolution
so that we can directly compare them! The Canon shot is a thumbnail.
Click on it to get the 640x480 version to match the 640x480 Universal
pic.
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i think you just added the 640x480 version recently by editing your post didnt you??
we just had the 1280pic from the universal, and the 640pic from your canon....of course....until you edited it unless....there was a problem with my browser!
Cheers!
S
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Universal (understatement of the year!), but people will be interested
to know just how good/bad it is. This thread is an objective
demonstration just for them. 8)[/quote]
If thats the case, then its alright. I dont like people dissin the device cos it doesn't take great pictures. No device on the market does what the jasjar can do, n i dare someone to argue with me on that
Sorry if we hijacked your thread.
can somebody post more pictures??? especially those taken with bad lighting conditions....
a couple pics in pitch dark, with the flash turned on...along with night mode on would be great too!
@universal
Noone would argue with you for sure you sure love your device!!!
San
universaldoc said:
.. No device on the market does what the jasjar can do, n i dare someone to argue with me on that
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Mate you should see the quality of pictures from the SE K750i they are really fantastic. Also the K750's battery lasts my wife 7 days and it is on 24hrs a day. So no competition for the JJ/Exec but makes you think
Like universaldoc wrote there is no other device like the universal, some phones might have a better camera but can they log into your computer on the other side of the world and fully control it..... The answer is clearly NO....... What is being said here is the Universal, despite its little problem, is a Phone/PDA in one that does is all. We will have better in the future but at this present time there is no comparison to anything Ericsson can make and that goes for in the future with Ericsson.
@seal, I know what is being said but not everyone wants all the features of the Universal. For me I still to use my PSP for videos over my Exec and I prefer the music reproduction of my Nokia 9500 (OGG) and Palm LifeDrive (DRM) over the Exec; the Exec music reproduction is very bass light.
I think that the camera is pretty ok with right settings...
@jah,
I agree that the camera is better on the SE K750i, probably the best after the Sharp V203SH.
But i just feel that it is rather unfair to diss the Universal based on the camera. As i have said before, if camera is a criteria for considering the universal, then i am speechless.
Just to make myself clear, i would have purchased the universal even if it did NOT have a camera
Hi,
Most of these are supposedly taken from the camera in Xperia... They look great for a 3.2 mega-pixel camera...
http://xperiancers.com/images/
Best regards.
I think only one picture was really taken with the Xperia X1.
You can flip the images and only one image has a comment which states that the picture was taken using the X1 camera.
Hmm... i think you may be right. Their main post led me to believe that most of them were, but i probably interpretted it wrong.
but the picture lineout looks cool with the movements and such
Yes quite cool and it's free to use: tiltViewer
By the way: Here you can find the photo taken with the Xperia X1 in higher resolution: click
Looks very good!
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=pre...nia-sony-ericsson-x1-camera-comparison-update
Rudegar said:
http://www.theunwired.net/?item=pre...nia-sony-ericsson-x1-camera-comparison-update
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"With the Beta ROM, the house was more yellow then red but now, with the final ROM, the camera quality definitely improved and colors are right now." They say this for the i900... so hopefully we'll see further improvement in Xperia's final ROM.
The Omnia has a pretty decent photo quality for a mobile phone, but to be honest, the X1, Diamond and Touch Pro is really pathetic.
Let's see if the final ROM gives some improvement on this, but my hopes are not very high. (Fortunately, I don't need the camera anyways)
xmoo said:
Looks very good!
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Really?
But he also stated following:
An image shot using the camera on the Xperia X1 at the media preview event on Monday the 15th Sept 08. Bear in mind that this is in very low light, hence the motion blur.
So low light conditions are always difficult and of course especially for an inbuilt mobile phone camera.
foo said:
I think only one picture was really taken with the Xperia X1.
You can flip the images and only one image has a comment which states that the picture was taken using the X1 camera.
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Why you said that? There is not reason to believe these pictures weren't taken with the X1. Maybe you secretly wished to be bad.
The ones at the bottom OBVIOUSLY, were not. those the original art from Feb 10th 2008. All the others they HAVE text on the reverse but who cares it's just estupid effect of the creators of this viewer that is nice but just annoying. If I want to see a picture or download it I don't need all that tilting.
Well maybe you're right though I don't believe it.
You can also have a look at the flicker stream here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/[email protected]/
The naming and the quality of the pictures is very different.
But okay, unfortunately they removed all EXIF otherwise it would have been easy to find out, but so I can only guess by indication.
Much better photos form X1
Lot of good photos taken using X1:-
http://www.wallpaper.com/interiors/london-design-festival-2008/2625
( in the bottom 3 GALLEYS)
The photo quality is better then I would have expected, though it can't compete with a compact camera, it shows a really decent quality for a smartphone.
Very nice
foo said:
The photo quality is better then I would have expected, though it can't compete with a compact camera, it shows a really decent quality for a smartphone.
Very nice
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And a compact camera can not compite the other features of the Xperia.
C'mon... we all know that.
In a positive way, I would compare these great pictures to the Touch Pro. Oranges and Oranges.
I kinda want to see a side by side of the X1 and the K790a/K800i. Judging by the pictures on all the sites the camera on the X1 appears to be far worse than those 2 year old handsets.
Yup, they are worse, worse than most current cameraphones (N95, N82, Innov8, Omnia, many other Sony models). You have to live with that with this phone, but at least they're serviceable enough in decent light conditions.
My camera on my wizard is covered by a skin right now so that goes to show you how much I care about a camera lol.
foo said:
The Omnia has a pretty decent photo quality for a mobile phone, but to be honest, the X1, Diamond and Touch Pro is really pathetic.
Let's see if the final ROM gives some improvement on this, but my hopes are not very high. (Fortunately, I don't need the camera anyways)
Really?
But he also stated following:
An image shot using the camera on the Xperia X1 at the media preview event on Monday the 15th Sept 08. Bear in mind that this is in very low light, hence the motion blur.
So low light conditions are always difficult and of course especially for an inbuilt mobile phone camera.
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I was comparing that with the Kaiser
foo said:
I think only one picture was really taken with the Xperia X1.
You can flip the images and only one image has a comment which states that the picture was taken using the X1 camera.
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does x1 have got cam
cihanleanne said:
does x1 have got cam
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That thread is from 2008.
And yes, the x1 has cam (1 front. 1 back)
Hi to all.
I'm curious to see any sample photo taken with Touch HD. Someone can post here any photos?
...they are too big to be included in the forum (VGA limitation)
host on photobucket, imageshack, or tinypic.
I have been waiting for the sample pic for a long time
we have all been waiting for the sample pics
hope they post them soon
in the test on http://www.areamobile.de they also postet some sample pictures
Photo Quality
Can anyone who has the HD comment on the quality of the camera?
From reviews I've read it seems it's not as good as other 5mp devices, but I would think it would be a massive improvement to that of the Touch, Cruise, Diamond... (in respect to frame rate and photo quality, not just increased size)??
mradaml said:
Can anyone who has the HD comment on the quality of the camera?
From reviews I've read it seems it's not as good as other 5mp devices, but I would think it would be a massive improvement to that of the Touch, Cruise, Diamond... (in respect to frame rate and photo quality, not just increased size)??
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I can not compare it to the Diamond, but to recent Nokia phones, the Iphone and my LG Viewty. And i personally think, the pictures are better and have better colours. also when taking pictures in a room, where the light is not that good for cams it seem to take bright and clear pictures. (you may remember the pictures they took on this french site one month ago. the Iphones pictures where pretty dark and red, while the same pictures taken by the HD where bright and clear)
Eitum said:
in the test on http://www.areamobile.de they also postet some sample pictures
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They have used a cheep plastic lens....
So typically HTC.. they want to make a phone with all the top feautures on paper... and spend a lot of money on parts to do that.... while trying to save some money on the not so important parts (according to Htc) and then they ruin a lot of the performance of the phone because they want to save a few bucks....
Ok I have I Touch HD, on the whole I have been very impressed with my touch HD, apart from the poor camera when not in brght day light.
I'm am due an upgrade soon, I am certainly considering the HD2, but i need to know is the camera better than the previous HD?
I understand not all phone cameras are great, but my Nokia N95 shot fantastic video indoorsm and the sound was clear even in night clubs it didnt distort. I would love to get back to this quality again.
I'm conidering the new sony erricson and Nokias, but I'd much prefer to get HD2, window mobile and HTCs front ends are much better than others I have used.
If the HD2 isnt up to scratch does anyone know of any new windows mobile devices that have camera performance equal to the Nokia I spoke about?
Thanks
I'm still under impressions about the HD and all its feat.s, but the most is from 5MPx camera, well done for phone. So please post your the best done picture ever by you HD!!!
Ehhh why not...first one is of the Washington monument here in DC,
The second one is of my almost 3 year old insisting she ride her tricycle uphill to her auntie's house on the left (yes, she knows where the house is...but is still struggling with that pedal/steer combo... give her a break, some of you still get left and right confused!)
Not bad, looks quite nice
DTNT said:
I'm still under impressions about the HD and all its feat.s, but the most is from 5MPx camera, well done for phone. So please post your the best done picture ever by you HD!!!
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Is this your first camera phone?
I mean some of my friends have been really embarrassed with the camera performance of our beloved HD, when trying to impress ladies with the "latest peace of the mobile technology" they haven't been able to accomplish such an easy task as shooting a decent picture, unless on a bright light. Most of the relatively old Nokias or Sony-Ericssons can do this.
I don't wanna even talk about the video recording
Best picture? Come on, we all know that htc have no idea about cameras.
Actually...I'm happy with the [outdoor] performance with this camera. I mean occasionally you'll get a jewel of (an indoor) picture...heck, sometimes with my 10meg camera I'll be disappointed...and yes, some pictures do come out somewhat discolored outside, but I just simply use a photo editing prigram to fix the colors and I'm all set. Remember, you bought:
1. A phone
2. Web browser
3. Digital assistant
4. Mp3 player
5. Camera...
not the other way around.
I have taken 3 pictures that i think is the best i can get out of my HD:
the first one of my mom's dog:
the second one the first flowers:
and the last one a pumpkin from halloween:
I've been this close to going back to a Sony Ericsson because of the camera... Only the video playback (still not as good as it should be) on the large screen keeps me happy
Here's my two cents
The black Sea
Countryside
Beach
River Terek
Although I'm not happy with the HD camera performance I use it occasionally as a back up camera. It's not really practical to carry around a DSLR all the time.
User X said:
Is this your first camera phone?
I mean some of my friends have been really embarrassed with the camera performance of our beloved HD, when trying to impress ladies with the "latest peace of the mobile technology" they haven't been able to accomplish such an easy task as shooting a decent picture, unless on a bright light. Most of the relatively old Nokias or Sony-Ericssons can do this.
I don't wanna even talk about the video recording
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I made a test on My SE Xperia X1 (made by HTC and with HTC hardware camera) and I think that HTC's bad quality pictures is more software related than hardware related...
The rom I use has 2 camera application: the SE Xperia one and the HTC Rhodium one
Here is the picture taken with HTC app:
Here is the picture taken with the SE app:
>My wonder came after the shot done during my work, it was indoor and i shot a bottle, I think very good one picture;
>My mother owns SE K800, but I cannot compare pix, mine is better
>Anyways A+ to HTC for such camera (photo!), after Artemis's camera this one is earth and heaven.
Please continue attach quality pix by HD
pic is attached!
My abstract photo
This was taken through the windscreen of a van while moving.
The camera still's are not too bad on the HD but the video recording is utter junk, the original diamond take's far better video.
Here are my noob shots
...wish the car was mine though