Bluetooth GPS - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

For those who don't know, Microsoft and Pharos are offering an iGPS-500 Bluetooth receiver for $70, plus shipping.
http://www.pharosgps.com/gpsphone/LiveSearch.htm?ProductID=615
https://services.pharosgps.com/shopping/store/comersus_viewItem.asp?idProduct=141
This is designed to work with LiveSearch, but I don't see why it wouldn't work with other software.
I have purchased one and I will post a review in this thread when I get it.

How did it work for you? I bought the iGPS too but I can't seem to figure out how to use it with my Wing. Do I still have to mess with the "External GPS" settings? I'm planning on using it with Windows Live Search. It connects fine, I guess I'm just a bit clueless trying to get it to work.

I purchased that keychain Bluetooth GPS reciever from the XDA store, and its pretty sweet. Its small but works well, and was even cheaper than that one above, you should consider that one too. Hey, plus you can support this great site too ;0)
http://store.xda-developers.com/xproduct.php?xProd=489&xSec=24

Just a query I am awaiting the arrival of my External B/T GPS to suit my Imate Jasjam I have Tomtom 6 installed my question is ...Is there any tricks to getting this working prior to my stuffing around with it

Hey bongo333, What I would suggest, as I use Tomtom 6 with ext, GPS reciever, is to wait to pair GPS with the jasjam before running tomtom the first time.
This allows you the option of which com port you wish the GPS reciever to use(I use 4). I believe tomtom uses as default 9 or 3. I believe your BT handsfree has com 03 reserved which means you have to use com 09.
When you get your GPS reciever, pair with jasjam but make sure you tick "serial port".
Then, from the tabs at the bottom of the screen in bluetooth settings, select com ports. click "select new outgoing port" then select port of your choice(Please remember that some com ports are "Reserved and cant be picked).
Start tomtom and when prompted select which type of gps you are using(other bluetooth reciver) then pick the com port you selected as the outgoing port for your GPS.
Please note that I have tried a 16 channel GPS and now have a 54 channel GPS and the more recievers the better reception and less time to lock onto a signal.
Hope this helps... Cheers

Excellent description I just picked it up and had it running on the way home I couldn't ask for anything better for that price $80 Ebay Holux M-1000b (for others info) exactly as you said used bluetooth prior to Tomtom and MUST assign com port or no go by the way do you know where I can get the latest Aust maps. I have Tomtom 6 but I'm told there is a newer version of the S/w but maps are more important.
Cheers Bongo333

SD5150 said:
I purchased that keychain Bluetooth GPS reciever from the XDA store, and its pretty sweet. Its small but works well, and was even cheaper than that one above, you should consider that one too. Hey, plus you can support this great site too ;0)
http://store.xda-developers.com/xproduct.php?xProd=489&xSec=24
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What software are you using for the keychain bluetooth GPS reciever? and do you need to be connected to 3G or internet to have the software working?

Ive been using an external GPS that i got on ebay about a year and a half ago for about $60 AUD.
For maps im using Tomtom which works great.

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XDAII & Leadtek GPS Receiver (Not COM1 Error)

Hi everyone.
I am hoping someone will be kind enough (or able enough) to help me with a problem I seem to be experiencing on my XDAIIs and a Leadtek 9531 GPS receiver.
I bought the receiver from Ebay, supposedly new, and it certainly looks new.
I plug the receiver into my XDA, and power it all from the cigarrette lighter. I am using Winfast Navigator software to test the connection as I am still waiting for the Tomtom software to arrive.
The first lot of errors received were for COM1 not being available, so I have done as suggested and disabled BEAM for the device... and now the problem is that I start the winfast software, and click connect and it just stays there attempting to connect for minutes... It just doesnt seem to be able to connect to the device.
I have the device set to NMEA 4800 Baud on COM1, so presumably I have done all that I need to be able to pick up a satellite signal, but there is still nothing.
Can anyone suggest something?
Thanks in Advance.
I got this GPS receiver a while ago bundled with Destinator GPS software. This receiver can take quite a while to get its first fix (up to 20mins in my experience). Leave it turned on for a while to see if it connects. Once it has a fix, it will re-connect next time almost instantly.
I don't know if this is true, but someone told me that the unit memorizes its last known position. When you re-connect it, if it's moved a significant distance (ie just bought it), it takes a while to find the satelites because it is getting conflicting data about where it is on the planet.
Hi xda-rocks,
Thanks for posting back.
Im not sure that leaving it for 20 mins is going to work. I downloaded a GPS viewer program from http://www.holux-uk.com/Downloads/GpsViewer.exe and it refuses to acknowledge that there is anything GPS related on COM1, or any of the other COM ports for that matter.
From reading other posts it seems like maybe this is a keyboard problem (slideout model XDA IIs) which apparantely also uses COM1, but I am unsure how to disable the keyboard or even if i want to. My guess would be that I would have to disable the keyboard everytime i wanted to use GPS and that would just be too much for something that I really just want to plug in and go.
So, I have ordered a BT GPS receiver now, and am awaiting delivery of that... hopefully thats not as much bother as this one has been to setup... also hopefully the person I bought the leadtek receiver from will accept a return for refund.
I got my gps with an original XDA, then upgraded to XDAII in Sept 2003 and it worked fine, then upgraded to MDAIII (XDAIIs) in October 2004 and it still works fine - no problem with keyboard.
Works fine with Destinator and Tomtom even has it listed as one of its options.
I also have Holux BT GPS receiver, but prefer wired system when in car - less hassle with connecting, charging, headsets, etc.

Which Bluetooth GPS receivers work flawlessly with Wizard?

First time buyer of GPS unit and I need help choosing the right one. Thanks.
Btw, has to work in the UK.
I wouldn't dare say flawless , but the last 2 times i went to GB i didnt experience any problems with my current GPS receiver which is the
Rikaline Bluetooth GPS receiver 6033
this model is generally 20-30euros more expensive than the standard ones but it uses an advanced chipset to even get fixes in buildings and tunnels and can maintain more connections at once.
Manufacturers Site
Cheap one from www.mobilefun.co.uk
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/8590.htm
£40! and works a treat.
Probably not as good as the Rikaline or the Holux 236 which is by far the best i've tried but for they are nearly double the price
Even uses the same kind of charger as the Wizard so effectively you get a free in-car charger for you PPC thrown in.
I successfully use a generic Nemerix based GPS mouse from adapt. You can find these rather cheap GPS device in many varities (lots of OEM manufacturers) on eBay.
In conjunction with TT5.2 it works like a charm.
Any suggestions for a good light GPS to fasten in the helmet. I have plans to track my routes during mountainbike tours.
GPS...
What a topic...
I have spent some time investigating the options for me...
I am a newbie on the PPC front and I am after my first GPS set up too...
OK everyone points at TomTom as the best option...is this so?
Any feedback will be greatly received and if I do go for it, I will probably go for their bundle...
For those running TTN5 on thier Wizards, please advise the speed and any issues...many thanks...
Re: GPS...
Sunnychad said:
OK everyone points at TomTom as the best option...is this so?
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TomTom is also my #1 for road navigation.
What are the best choices for free-time navigation? Some candidates:
Pathaway, http://www.pathaway.com/pathaway3wm.htm, WM5 compatible?
OziExplorer, http://www.oziexplorer.com/
cant fault the holux 236
Nemerix
Hi,
I am using this GPS mouse (NEMERIX V3.0 Ultra Low Power Chipset). Simple installation, simple use, long battery life, cute size - my favourite!
U can get it e.g. here:
http://cgi.ebay.de/XAiOX-Bluetooth-...itemZ5848082313QQcategoryZ77359QQcmdZViewItem
Im using a BT77 Bluetooth GPS. It provides a really great signal even inside, however I have had problems with the wizard, in that I have to drop and then re-partner the device in bluetooth, everytime I want to use it, but Im currently thinking its the MS Bluetooth stack at fault and not the Device, anyone have a similar experience ?
Hi,
I already have the tomtom wired gps receiver which i use with my ipaq 2210. I know the receiver connector wont fit onto my wizard but is there any kind of adapter that will change it from ipaq to wizard (min usb i think).
cheers
Hi,
I already have the tomtom wired gps receiver which i use with my ipaq 2210. I know the receiver connector wont fit onto my wizard but is there any kind of adapter that will change it from ipaq to wizard (min usb i think).
cheers
Re: GPS...
Sunnychad said:
What a topic...
I have spent some time investigating the options for me...
I am a newbie on the PPC front and I am after my first GPS set up too...
OK everyone points at TomTom as the best option...is this so?
Any feedback will be greatly received and if I do go for it, I will probably go for their bundle...
For those running TTN5 on thier Wizards, please advise the speed and any issues...many thanks...
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hi, i am using TTN 5 on my wizard and MKIII bluetooth GPS, i have used it without any problems, but saying that i had some problems installing it.
but after i updated my to 2.1. its works a treat.
Good Luck!
ferritt said:
Hi,
I already have the tomtom wired gps receiver which i use with my ipaq 2210. I know the receiver connector wont fit onto my wizard but is there any kind of adapter that will change it from ipaq to wizard (min usb i think).
cheers
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Afraid not. Wired receivers will not work on Wizard/K-Jam etc.. full stop. you need to get a BT GPS receiver.
I picked a cheap one up from www.mobilefun.co.uk for £40 and works a treat. 5 fixes even in car glove box
The Tomtom Bt Gps is the easiest one to connect to the wizard, other brands u may need to set comm ports in Tomtom navigator.
So far I tested Holux SIRF3, Tomtom MK2, Leadtek sirf3, all were working fine.
my Tomtom MKIII works perfectly with Wiz.
I'm using a BT880 picked up on ebay (new) for £30.
Works fine with my qtek (imate rom) and tomtom5.

Tom Tom XDA problem

Hi all,
Just go the xda through work, and even though i have got the new version of tom tom of their website (5.2) for ppc, when loaded and docked in my cradle, it cant sem to get the GPS to receive!?!?! anyone else had this problem?
I have an O2 XDA Exec and its working fine with the TomTom 5.2 software. I got some very useful info from http://www.pocketgps.co.uk/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=6 ..... basically a post on there advised setting up an outgoing com port to the BT GPS device (I used Com0) ... this is found under Start>Settings>Connections>Bluetooth>ComPorts (after you have paired the BT device of course).
In TomTom you then select "Other Bluetooth GPS" in the GPS options screen, select the Com port set previously, and away you go.
I hope this helps
I bought a 32-channel QStarz GPS receiver from eBay, cracking little thing it is. I had problems getting it going though initially - what I had to do was setup a pairing, which was a little tricky as TT didn't want to behave.
Basically, TT tries to establish a serial connection whenever I open it. As TT loaded, just before it went into the TT interface, It showed a dialog box with all my serial connections in - I think it might've been the device pairing screen, but I've not been able to find it again... What I did was pick the gps receiver's serial port device entry I'd previously set up, select it, check the box to tell TT to always connect to this device by default, and then hit enter - all before TT managed to load into the interface. It took me a couple of goes, and I'm sure there's an easier way to do this (I don't think I was even supposed to see this dialog screen ) but now it works perfectly. I don't have to establish the Bluetooth connection to the GPS receiver, TT does that (and it'll even turn the Bluetooth on and off if it's not already on for me). However, I did have to choose Other NMEA GPS from the device options, and then tweak my COM port settings (I found a scant piece of information regardingthe fact that it should be something like COM5 for incoming data and COM6 for outgoing data, you would do well to doublecheck the TomTom site's FAQs for this info). There's a couple of seconds lag whilst TT correctly detects the device and begins to latch onto GPS sats (it says "No Compatible GPS Device Detected!", and then changes to something like "No GPS Signal Detected"... And then starts picking up sats.
This is all with TT5.0, by the way.
This document will be very useful.. principal is the same for most GPS Receivers..
http://www.parrot.biz/ressources/CK3400_Help_Files/Imate JASJAR - TOMTOM Mobile 5 - 2.01.pdf
Not sure if you are trying to receive through a Bluetooth GPS receiver - if you are, this worked for me (first poston the page);
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...ostorder=asc&highlight=tomtom+5+gps&start=100
Thanks for your help guys, but i meat to say i am using a wired GPS the small square official Tom Tom one, hard wired in to my cradle.
I can open the software and everything, but it just says, cant find GPS, the green light flashes on my GPS, but thats all it does.
Help!
Ok, so you're using a wired receiver.. That helps to know. You should be able to choose TomTom Wired GPS or Other Wired GPS, and it should just... work. If it doesn't, choose the nearest chocie to your receiver, and go into the Advanced settings (if the option button is available) - if so, doublecheck what your COM port settings are.
Where did you buy the cradel from, I just got ripped off to the tune of £48 off ebay due to the cradle not actually passing the srl connection through, all it does is provide power for a Bluetooth GPS Receiver out of the port on the side.
I think I've heard othe rpeople saying that wired GPS receivers will not work with the Universal. Can anyone confirm this?
What you have heard is correct the mini USB on the Exec WILL NOT accept a GPS connection, you need a bluetooth device for this to work - Mike
Tony B - that sounds like the cradle i am using - jasjar or jamjar something like that!
I have put my wired GPS straight in to the side, and nothing!!
think you might have got it mate!
hi there
i am using the wired gps with mda pro tomotm car cradle
tomtom software working like i can start the tomotm and see the setting etc
now when i connect the tomtom wired gps via rj11 in cradle but i can not recieve gps signal
device says "no gps device"
please help
Regrads
Gugi

Bluetooth GPS, T-Mobile MDA... May God Make This Thing Work

Ok I've pretty much tried everything, been browsing the boards for over 6 hours for solutions. I've tried everything and just flat out can not get my Bluetooth GPS to work with preetty much any software I've tried. Using the T-Mobile MDA USA model here with Windows Mobile 5.0.
I did the registry tweak and managed to get the GPS Icon in my connections section. Messed with all the settings there, no luck.
I'm using a Ambicom BT-GPS that I used to use with my IPAQ 6315. Worked flawlessly with IGuidance but no luck. The MDA see's the device, successfully pairs the device. But no matter what settings I try to use I just can't get anything good to happen here. Should I abandon the Ambicom GPS? Is it just not going to work with the MDA? Should I try other software? I'm not all about shelling out bucks for software that I'm not sure is going to work.
Is anybody out there using a working bluetooth GPS setup with the USA T-Mobile MDA? What are you using, what are you running and what hoops did you have to jump through to get it working? I don't mind spending a little bit of money if I know it's going to work.
You did not state which model ambicom gps receiver you have but have you tried the updated drivers here for wm5?
http://www.ambicom.com/support/installation/gps/index.htm
hope this helps
Sorry bout that, it's the basic 1.0 version, BT-GPS...
Apparantly they don't let me download it because I don't send them enough money. That only works with their version of the navigator which is basically the IGuidance software re-branded. I do however have the 2.1 version of IGuidance.
That may be your problem then - try to get wm5 drivers for your device - not sure where from.
I am not a gps expert but few of the readers have praised the holux 236 gps and works with the wizard - and has the new gps chip
see here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=44567&highlight=gps
For some reason, my first Holux GPSlim 236 did the same thing (Mapopolis this time). Surprisingly, an exchange did the trick. If you have a friend with a PDA, I'd suggest he try it too and see if it isn't a bad unit. That's the way I found out.
JB
I have had a huge problem with getting GPS software to work with my MDA... the only marginal success I had was when i got Tomtom Navigator working with my Holux GPSlim 236. At first it didnt work, and I thought I hit a road block. But I switched the outgoing Com ports and got it working. But then I realized that I only had the Great Britain maps, so i downloaded the California maps, but the software wont work. I gave up on Tomtom and am going another route. I really cant get it working. Here is the link where I got the software for Tomtom. All other programs wouldnt work because there is an incompatability with Windows Mobile 5.0. This file works. http://thepiratebay.org/details.php?id=3410079 Good luck.
Going a bit off topic (and not very helpful), but i was amazed to find out the BT Handsfree and BT GPS works at the same time
I'm dead happy to be able to talk and use TomTom at the same time. Everyone i asked said you cant use to BT devices at the same time. Great stuff.
Yes I do enjoy the fact that BT handsfree and BT GPS work in conjunction on my Wizard... really nice.
As for the original poster's issues. I use iGuidance with my Wizard (8125) and it was a bit confusing to get going at first. This is what I had to do.
1. Pair the GPS and the Wizard
2. Select the Com Ports tab and set up a new OUTGOING port, it should default to com6. I would uncheck the secure connection box as I don't think you have to have a secure connection to your GPS, but thats just me. If it doesn't work try checking it.
3. In IGuidance select the tools, GPS options, COM Port, and set it to com 6 just like it defaulted to com 6 in the settings above.
4. Tap the GPS icon and see if you have data streaming over the BT GPS connection. Hopefully you do!
I find that iGuidance is a bit strange in that it wants to hit the GPS on the port so it actively goes to the GPS it just does not sit there and wait so that makes things a bit strange. Also you most likely need the 2.1.3.2NA version on your MDA. All other 2.1.3 versions have an issue and won't display the 3D view at all on QVGA devices... its a known issue that they have fixed in this version. Annoying as the DVD did not have this version on it and I ran into the problem and was annoyed until I went to their site and found the issue fixed.

TYTN TomTom Bluetooth GPS

Got my htc tytn loaded totom 5 onto it and guess what bluetooth gps doesn't work with it! Cannot get correct comm port .According to HTC TomTom know about this. Just hoping somebody already has a fix for this?
Had no problems pairing my BT Slim GPS with my Vario II, TomTom runs fine.
What GPS receiver you using ?
works fine on my xda trion as well.......im using tom tom 5.21 with BT-338 gps receiver.......im also using com port 0......you basically have to pair it and then add outgoing port as com port 0.....and during the installation on tom tom make sure you choose com port 0......that worked for me anyways....hope that helps.
Bluetooth GPS HTC TYTN
Thanks guys have re-installed tomtom and now it comes up with com prt 0.Probably didn't install correctly first time .Now up and running .Fantastic!!!!
I could cry
Hi everyone - I am having a similar problem
I have a new GPS receiver and have established a bluetooth partnership and done the outgoing port to com0 which is the default.
Tom Tom is installed and when I try and configure it I am not seeing all the options shown on the website. It just says no gps detected or something similar. I am sure its something simple.
Can anyone help please?
mobilecat said:
Hi everyone - I am having a similar problem
I have a new GPS receiver and have established a bluetooth partnership and done the outgoing port to com0 which is the default.
Tom Tom is installed and when I try and configure it I am not seeing all the options shown on the website. It just says no gps detected or something similar. I am sure its something simple.
Can anyone help please?
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There's a program CreatePorts that is floating around (you'll have to do a search) that allows TomTom to see additional com ports in the Bluetooth GPS setup. I used this same program on my Samsung i730, and now on the 8525.
You just paid your GPS with the PPC, create the outbound port (in my case I used com 2), run CreatePorts, and then go in to TomTom GPS setup.
Once you get it set up, you don't have to run the app anymore, and TomTom works great
OUCH
dew.man said:
There's a program CreatePorts that is floating around (you'll have to do a search) that allows TomTom to see additional com ports in the Bluetooth GPS setup. I used this same program on my Samsung i730, and now on the 8525.
You just paid your GPS with the PPC, create the outbound port (in my case I used com 2), run CreatePorts, and then go in to TomTom GPS setup.
Once you get it set up, you don't have to run the app anymore, and TomTom works great
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I tried running this but i can still only assign certain points from my bluetooth manager and dont have these displayed on the tomtom menu.
When you go into the GPS Status settings on Tomtom and tap configure, have you tried looking to see which com ports it lists and then going back to the bluetooth settings and doing trial and error to allocate any of those port numbers as an outgoing port for your GPS unit?
For my genuine Tomtom GPS unit, I did not even have to set up a port, I just had to pair the device but when I used a friends alternative brand of GPS unit for a short while, I was only able to get that one working under Com port 4. I can't quite remember but it may even have been a case that Com 4 only became visible in the Tomtom GPS configure menu after I had allocated it as an outgoing port for the GPS device (sorry, it is a while back so I can't quite remember the order in which I set it up)
Hope you get it sorted
arghh
I a so annoyed. I did this and had no luck. Later on I did something and got the option for port 2 and used it and it was great. I had to do a soft reset for something else and I cant do it again. tried everything.
MMMM
Happy yet frustrated
I have deleted create ports from my device as it only works once. I have reset my device. I reinstalled createports and extracted the file. I then saw port 2 straight away - the one that had been missing in tomtom.
The only problem is that if I do a soft reset I have to do that again!
It is very frustrating trying to get some of these things working. Have you thought about upgrading to Tomtom 6? you may find you have less problems getting the pairing and ports working right.
Failing that, I am sure you will be able to get it working again, just keep trying all the com ports one by one until you find one that appears in the Tomtom configuration. Like I said, on my XDA Vario II (Hermes) I managed to get it working on Com 4 and when I had an XDA Mini S (Wizard) I seem to remember that it was either Com 6 or Com 7 which worked on that one.
You might want to check the bluetooth settings for security and beam as well. Try turning security off (ie. passkey required off) and make sure the beam setting is ticked to receive all incoming beams.
I will keep my fingers crossed for you
download co-pilot for uk
Dashley said:
Got my htc tytn loaded totom 5 onto it and guess what bluetooth gps doesn't work with it! Cannot get correct comm port .According to HTC TomTom know about this. Just hoping somebody already has a fix for this?
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Any one got the co-pilot softwear to insallate for MDA VARIO 2.
download co-pilot softwear for UK.
Any one got the co-pilot softwear to insallate for MDA VARIO 2.
another thread
I have just seen another thread about XDA with a patch for this that seems to work. Can someone merge the threads?
Createports
Can anyone point me in the right direction to find this program. I think that it is hidden on the web somewhere near the holy grail.
Help with TT6 + TYTN + Royaltek 2110 please
I have a TYTN and a GPS Royaltek 2110. I have position com0 and other programs GPS work correctly. The problem is that the TT6 always shows he himself message “GPS nonfound”, although always I can say to him that this in the COM0 but does not find satellite.
That I can do? I put the TT5
somebody it has the CreatePorts program and it can put it?
Thanks
try this thread:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=288865
Pairing TOMTOM 6 with Bluetooth GPS
For all of you that are having problems pairing your GPS Bluetooth receiver with your Hermes see the instruction set below:
#Hermes can not be in flight Mode#
1st: Run BTHTools1100.exe
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2nd:
Pair them in Bluetooth Manager
Set:
Holux (outgoing port com4)
Incoming Port (com8)
no security
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3rd:
In settings >> Connections >> GPS
Programs set GPS program port to Com 8
Hardware set GPS hardware port to Com 4
baud rate 4800
If GPS program is not seen in settings\Connections
Use resco registry or other program and:
Go to Hkey_local_Machine\ControlPanel\GPS settings\ creat (make new) "Group" with Dword data =2
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In TomTom chose:
Bluetooth GPS
Com4
should be working Now
Pairing TOMTOM 6 with Bluetooth GPS (easy) - Kaiser
First after reading the posts I thought I had to reinstall Tom Tom or install another software. Luckily, I paused and read the message when I was about to configure my other bluetooth receiver. It said, first you must establish your bluetooth connection. Well, I lied coz I did try to go on and couldnt find COM 0 or whatever you guys have said.
But that's what I did, eventually. Paired the device as BT GPS, check the serial connection (not sure if secure connection needs to be checked but I left it unchecked to find out later). After that go to com port tab, and click add new port ie selected COM0.
Then go back to TT6 (restarted in my case), and to other bluetooth gps receiver then found COM 0 in there. Voila!!
Chose COM0, but still got no gps device message. Waited for about 2 mins while reading further into the posts and now my TT6 is working.
You could call that strike of luck I dont really care but yeah.. saving some batt power on my kaiser for the bank holiday;s trip. Have a great one everyone!!
P/s: Mine is O2 stellar on Dutty's great work.
Com 4 is the only one that works with Schaps 3.54

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