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O2 XDA - wireless 'linkup' experiment! Help?

Hi,
I was just wondering if its possible to 'link' the XDA Exec with multiple Laptops so that the laptops all show the XDA's display? Lets assume all Laptops have wi-fi, bluetooth and run Windows XP.
Purposes may be to share a PP presentation, show a software demo etc. (I need to give a tutorial and demo in a room with no projector ).
I was curious if anyone has had any experiance with this? Any advice regarding the best setup (or software) would be great. Cheers.

Nobody any ideas whatsoever?

You could install windows media encoder on one of the laptops, and a remote control app. Then run the remote control app so you can see your phone's screen. Once that's working you can run windows media encoder in screen caputre mode, all the other laptops will be able to connect it it then.

Broon said:
Nobody any ideas whatsoever?
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You can play with Microsoft's "ActiveSync Remote Display". The tool allows you to work with your PPC remotely from your laptop/PC using ActiveSync connection. But you will need to install ActiveSync and this tool to every laptop
If it is a matter of presentation, why don't you copy your presentation to local server's shared folder and ask people to open the file from this folder and listen to your instructions, like Going to next slide... At least there won't be any hassle with intervention to participants' laptops and personal space ))
ps: if you do possess a PC you can run something like MS Netmeeting and establish AS connection with your PDA through AS Remote Display at your PC. Share AS Remote Display application and ask people to connect to your PC's NetMeeting or any other remote conference software
Let us know on your results
Cheers

IMate->WM2k5 said:
If it is a matter of presentation, why don't you copy your presentation to local server's shared folder and ask people to open the file from this folder and listen to your instructions, like Going to next slide... At least there won't be any hassle with intervention to participants' laptops and personal space ))
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Thats my last resort - I hate doing presentations like this especially when we have the technology to do something 'fancy' :lol:
I will give some feedback to let you know how I managed it (I will succeed)!

Cheers for the ideas!

IMate->WM2k5 said:
You can play with Microsoft's "ActiveSync Remote Display". The tool allows you to work with your PPC remotely from your laptop/PC using ActiveSync connection. But you will need to install ActiveSync and this tool to every laptop
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I just had a look at AS Remote Display and it seemed this would do the trick - However, it does not work with Windows Mobile 5.0.
Does anyone know of a release of AS Remote Display for Windows Mobile 5? I had a look around but there does not seem to be much on offer which is compliant with 5.0.

Right, another problem.
I just installed an app called : Laplink Controller thinking as it offered the functionality I was looking for.
After a supposidly successful install I tried to run it - no joy. It reccommended I uninstall and re-install the software, so I did.
When re-installing I got a message saying:
Cannot load resouce library:
\Windows\MWRes???412L.dll
It now comes up everytime I do a soft reset. Anybody seen this error?

Wizard as a Vista Sideshow device?

You'd think it would be built in, but does anyone know if it will be possible to use the Wizard as a Windows Sideshow device in Vista? I got a horizontal dock for this thing just so I'd be able to run a gadget or two on it, but I'm surprised they didn't have it working out of the box ... with the popularity of the Wizard at Microsoft.

A quick search on google shows that there is quite a lot of interest for this.
IMO, it is almost certain this functionality will be added to Windows Mobile devices; lets just hope they don't limit it to WM6 devices.
Jörg

Very Good idea, I got some old phones with 2.5" LCD working, it is now time to wake them!

um.. install resco photo viewer.. i remember this feature on my hp6515a and after installing resco i have it back!

jacob-mda said:
um.. install resco photo viewer.. i remember this feature on my hp6515a and after installing resco i have it back!
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I guess they meant side show not slide show

whats the difference lol

jacob-mda said:
whats the difference lol
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Sideshow is a technology included with Windows Vista that allows for an external LCD to display widgets, even with the PC powered off. This allows you to see at a glance the weather, if you have e-mail, etc. It's primary use is in tiny LCDs on notebook covers, though if you could use your mobile for this, that would be really neat too.

MS is working on an app that does work on the Wizard, I have used a beta. It was very bugy but it worked.

How about this:
http://www.innobec.com/en/products.php
It adds a virtual display driver to your Windows (XP); this display is an activesync-connected PDA.
I have tried the trial version, and it appears to work (allthough a bit unstable, but I was using a bluetooth connection at the time).
Jörg

alandashby said:
MS is working on an app that does work on the Wizard, I have used a beta. It was very bugy but it worked.
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Can you upload that beta?

V J said:
How about this:
http://www.innobec.com/en/products.php
It adds a virtual display driver to your Windows (XP); this display is an activesync-connected PDA.
I have tried the trial version, and it appears to work (allthough a bit unstable, but I was using a bluetooth connection at the time).
Jörg
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This doesn't work with Active Sync 4.5 and or WM6
looks like they might be scrapping the development of this because of the similar features in vista.

computer9cowboy said:
This doesn't work with Active Sync 4.5 and or WM6 looks like they might be scrapping the development of this because of the similar features in vista.
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Hah, I hadn't tried it with 4.5; nor does my device have WM6. But in a way it makes sense to stop this functionality. Still, I only recently came across it and thought it could have given some people some ideas.
Jörg

V J said:
Hah, I hadn't tried it with 4.5; nor does my device have WM6. But in a way it makes sense to stop this functionality. Still, I only recently came across it and thought it could have given some people some ideas.
Jörg
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I wasn't crapping on it, I think it looks cool. I wish it worked for me. I would rather have WM6 than a 320x240 extension to my desktop though. I already have a dual monitor setup.

Sidewindow can be alternative of sideshow but you have to run samurize plugins on that display to look like sideshow. Microsoft states that mobile devices can be used as sideshow with vista, i have tryed many ways and i have no success with this task

I saw one of the Microsoft Powerpoint presentations on their website presenting the sideshow feature and one of the devices among the usual picture frames and things was actually a Smartphone, it looks like in house at microsoft they have done it but jsut not yet for us. EDIT: See http://download.microsoft.com/downl...56b-d47a59388df0/pdc_2005_auxilarydisplay.ppt

Just came across this:
http://www.zoneos.com/index.htm
It works with ActiveSync 4.5 and with WM5 (even though the ppc executable only states 2003). Functionality is the same as the innobec software: it adds a virtual display driver.
Jörg

V J said:
Just came across this:
http://www.zoneos.com/index.htm
It works with ActiveSync 4.5 and with WM5 (even though the ppc executable only states 2003). Functionality is the same as the innobec software: it adds a virtual display driver.
Jörg
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Works on WiFi with Server 2003 and WM6 as the client. Very cool, not very usefull but very cool.

Could someone post the Pocket PC and Windows Vista files for ZoneScreen? Unfortunately, the author has removed all the files from his site in favor of the open source release (http://sourceforge.net/projects/zonescreen/) which only has the files for Windows XP.

Best uses for Sideshow
The best usage of this will be with remote controls for Media Center PC's. You'll be able to sit outside on the porch and browse your music files or other media without needing to see the TV screen. This way you can have speakers outside and you can play whatever music you want. Added functionality will be when they finally make the app for windows mobile devices so that you won't even need a third party remote. With 3G devices such as the Hermes (8525) you won't even need to connect via wifi or bluetooth. You'll see all your album art, receive feedback of "now playing" items, etc. It will turn your pda into an expensive 2-way touchpanel such as Crestron, AMX, or ELAN offer. I say screw the laptops. Check out this link and then imagine that on your PDA.
<http://www.engadget.com/2006/12/21/ricavisions-vista-mce-sideshow-remote-does-bluetooth-at-100-met/>

All those complaining about why it doesn't work on vista:
You need ActiveSync for this application which has been replaced with Mobile Device User Center, so it doesn't work. I hope there's an update on the way to make it work, because in partnership with konfabulator widgets, it's incredible. It had it built in a case, and it displayed all the systems specs via widgets.

Windows Vista on Athena ! I done it !

You want to know how to run Windows Vista on Athena? Well, read on!
Firstly, is not really installing the Vista on Athena, i uses the terminal client services to remote control my desktop.
This is the application i use, it's the TCS in WM6, at least 10x better then the original WM5 one. Simply install it and run it, you will have to have knowledge of remote desktop to set this up. I will not try to cover here because there are some ways. Do a search on the net and you will find lots of into.
Below i attach the WM6 TCS and a screen shot of my Vista Ready Athena!
Haha, you got yourself a UMPC now.

That looks Amazing...
wu5262 said:
You want to know how to run Windows Vista on Athena? Well, read on!
Firstly, is not really installing the Vista on Athena, i uses the terminal client services to remote control my desktop.
This is the application i use, it's the TCS in WM6, at least 10x better then the original WM5 one. Simply install it and run it, you will have to have knowledge of remote desktop to set this up. I will not try to cover here because there are some ways. Do a search on the net and you will find lots of into.
Below i attach the WM6 TCS and a screen shot of my Vista Ready Athena!
Haha, you got yourself a UMPC now.
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Damn that looks good! Can you actually control and view evrything that happens on your vista through your Dopod? Including High Def Movies? (I know I'm pushing it now )

mackaby007 said:
Damn that looks good! Can you actually control and view evrything that happens on your vista through your Dopod? Including High Def Movies? (I know I'm pushing it now )
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yes you can control everything including setting and e-mail, office, outlook. However movie doesn't play for some reason, i am working on it now.

Thanks A Lot!
I've done it. And it works really well!
And indeed much better then the WM5 implementation of TCS.

wu5262 said:
You want to know how to run Windows Vista on Athena? Well, read on!
Firstly, is not really installing the Vista on Athena, i uses the terminal client services to remote control my desktop.
This is the application i use, it's the TCS in WM6, at least 10x better then the original WM5 one. Simply install it and run it, you will have to have knowledge of remote desktop to set this up. I will not try to cover here because there are some ways. Do a search on the net and you will find lots of into.
Below i attach the WM6 TCS and a screen shot of my Vista Ready Athena!
Haha, you got yourself a UMPC now.
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It's never gonna work for me...I'm using XP Home Edition. Home Edition does not support Remote desktop/TCS, even though the application comes with it.
Confirmed by microsoft. It will work with XP Pro though! Might just upgrade it then, but can't remember if that wipes all of my installed apps? Don't fancy re-installing them...way too many.

mackaby007 said:
Might just upgrade it then, but can't remember if that wipes all of my installed apps? Don't fancy re-installing them...way too many.
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nah, it doesn't. upgrade leaves everything as it was- even your desktop, settings, etc.
(i had to upgrade a couple of boxes from XP Home to XP Pro yesterday!)

dalelane said:
nah, it doesn't. upgrade leaves everything as it was- even your desktop, settings, etc.
(i had to upgrade a couple of boxes from XP Home to XP Pro yesterday!)
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yes that is correct
What do you guys think about the tools? know any registry hack to improve the speed?

@ Mackaby007
Try Log Me In

Slave1 said:
@ Mackaby007
Try Log Me In
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yes that is a simple solution as well !

wu5262 said:
You want to know how to run Windows Vista on Athena? Well, read on!
Firstly, is not really installing the Vista on Athena, i uses the terminal client services to remote control my desktop.
This is the application i use, it's the TCS in WM6, at least 10x better then the original WM5 one. Simply install it and run it, you will have to have knowledge of remote desktop to set this up. I will not try to cover here because there are some ways. Do a search on the net and you will find lots of into.
Below i attach the WM6 TCS and a screen shot of my Vista Ready Athena!
Haha, you got yourself a UMPC now.
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Hi Wu, I tried to use the remote terminal with Universal. It works, however I cannot type neither using the Universal keyboard nor the softkeyboard of the Universal. How do you keyed in text when you are remote accessing your PC?

xandergk2007 said:
Hi Wu, I tried to use the remote terminal with Universal. It works, however I cannot type neither using the Universal keyboard nor the softkeyboard of the Universal. How do you keyed in text when you are remote accessing your PC?
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that is strange, mine one works, you can just type with the actual keyboard. At least it works on Athena, not sure about Universal

wu5262 said:
that is strange, mine one works, you can just type with the actual keyboard. At least it works on Athena, not sure about Universal
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same here, no key (hard button as well, not work)

Hi,
keyboard works perfect on my t-mobile Ameo!
Thanks for the great app. It really improves remote desktop usage on the ameo.
Johannes

Need some help please...
wu5262 said:
that is strange, mine one works, you can just type with the actual keyboard. At least it works on Athena, not sure about Universal
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Hey Wu. Can you or anyone else who has successfully got the WM6 Remote Desktop to work on the Athena please give me some guidance?
1st. Thanks for the link Slave 1.....the web based 'LogMein' works a treat!
Wu..I done a clean install of XP Pro (supports TCS and Remote Desktop) and I installed all necessary components for XP & Remote Desktop. Activated 'Allow users....to Remote Desktop' etc.. My problem is not knowing what to put in the 'Domain' section in the WM6 Remote Desktop application. Is Domain the same as IP? Forgive my ignorance on this...I'm a noob to this..
If it's IP info required for this part, which one? I think I have a static IP address, but am not sure. When I check my IP over the web it is different to what shows up for my PC??!!
I'm confused now. This I believe is my only glitch now. Help please. 'LogMeIn.com' works fine, but it's implementation leaves a lot to be desired and all of you guys seem to really like the WM6 style.
Pointers please.

mackaby007 said:
Hey Wu. Can you or anyone else who has successfully got the WM6 Remote Desktop to work on the Athena please give me some guidance?
1st. Thanks for the link Slave 1.....the web based 'LogMein' works a treat!
Wu..I done a clean install of XP Pro (supports TCS and Remote Desktop) and I installed all necessary components for XP & Remote Desktop. Activated 'Allow users....to Remote Desktop' etc.. My problem is not knowing what to put in the 'Domain' section in the WM6 Remote Desktop application. Is Domain the same as IP? Forgive my ignorance on this...I'm a noob to this..
If it's IP info required for this part, which one? I think I have a static IP address, but am not sure. When I check my IP over the web it is different to what shows up for my PC??!!
I'm confused now. This I believe is my only glitch now. Help please. 'LogMeIn.com' works fine, but it's implementation leaves a lot to be desired and all of you guys seem to really like the WM6 style.
Pointers please.
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you don't really need to type in anything in the domain, you can leave it blank, the most important part is the first one, the computer name, you have to type in the IP address of your computer, or your actual computer name if you are connecting on a local network. check your computer IP, and just put it in there, it should work.

Hi
I have a problem in that i can only get the remote working via wi-fi (same network) but when im away and i type the ip adress while on t-mobile internet, i can't connect at all. i have disabled firewall and anti virus but still can't connect. I can only connect while im on the same network
any ideas?

bashi007 said:
Hi
I have a problem in that i can only get the remote working via wi-fi (same network) but when im away and i type the ip adress while on t-mobile internet, i can't connect at all. i have disabled firewall and anti virus but still can't connect. I can only connect while im on the same network
any ideas?
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you need to forward the port, if i remember correctly, it's 3389 to your computer IP. Do a search on xda about port forwarding
thanks for Moskus for correcting me

I think the port is 3389...

great, it works!! thanksd alot guys

If someone got problem on the keyboard and button.
Try to install in the Device but not the MicroDrive.
I got it work after I reinstall it
HAPPY!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wizard on the desktop?

Is there such a program that will allow me to control my wizard from my PC desktop? I thought I saw one before, but I have searched and searched and cannot find. Any help would be great.

Microsoft has a "Windows Mobile Power Toys" (AFAIR, not 100% sure) Package, which contains a tool to do that. It's pretty old and I don't know whether it still works with modern Windows Mobile versions, but you may nevertheless give it a try.
EDIT: By accident just found this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2179815&postcount=2
Sounds pretty promising

doctahjeph said:
Is there such a program that will allow me to control my wizard from my PC desktop? I thought I saw one before, but I have searched and searched and cannot find. Any help would be great.
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Soti's Pocket Controller was recommended to me yesterday and I can vouch for it being an outstanding program.

There's My Mobiler which is freeware and does the job you can get it from:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-my-mobiler-v1-0.html

N8M8 said:
There's My Mobiler which is freeware and does the job you can get it from:
http://www.freewarepocketpc.net/ppc-download-my-mobiler-v1-0.html
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I use "My Mobiler" and its very good. The best thing is that I can use my mouse cursor in the Wizard screen, at the same time I use it on pc.
There is the version 1.23 released on the developer site: www.mymobiler.com

Windows Mobile on external Display?

Is it possible, to see the Windows Mobile Screen on an external Display? Windows Vista works fine.
I´m using a Shift with i00-ROM-Deploy-20090309.
Thanks in advance.

It should be possible
Hi,
I own a Shift and a HTC Advantage.
The Advantage has a shortcut in settings "TV out"
The mini usb adapter that came with the Advantage makes it possible to connect it to an external monitor.
I have used it quite often in the past.
Works perfectly.
The IOO rom does not come with the plugin "TV out" so you will probably have to search the forum.
You might want to check out the XDA forum for the HTC Advantage also called "Hermes"
Good luck.
Qtek9000Jan
The Netherlands

Correct me if I'm wrong but I dont think it is possible as VGA-Out is controlled by Intel GMA chipset,fisical connections and drivers are only acting on Vista side.
When you trigger from one os to another you change from GMA950 to Windows Mobile integrated graphics.
The only solution comes into my mind is to connect your Windows Mobile to Vista through Activesync then install some programs that allows you to see Windows Mobile side from Vista (Windowed) and that's it you will use Vista side on External monitor.
Good luck!

You mean something like Pocket Controller, right? This is of course an other good alternative.

rumms said:
You mean something like Pocket Controller, right? This is of course an other good alternative.
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http://www.sparus-software.com/
Is much cheaper than Pocket Controller

Cheapest route
rumms said:
Is it possible, to see the Windows Mobile Screen on an external Display? Windows Vista works fine.
I´m using a Shift with i00-ROM-Deploy-20090309.
Thanks in advance.
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Install MyMobile that allows you to view your WinMob on Vista in a Window. Now Attach External Display to the Shift and move the WinMob Window that is on Vista to external display.
--Ram--

rumms said:
You mean something like Pocket Controller, right? This is of course an other good alternative.
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pls try this one bro, it's freeware and work well with me for a long time
Any update on SD/BT/Wifi for SHIFT, pls warning
Tks Bro
https://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=WnBTT205NmNiV3gzZUE9PQ

MyMobile-freeware
rumms said:
You mean something like Pocket Controller, right? This is of course an other good alternative.
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pls try this one bro, it's freeware and work well with me for a long time
Any update on SD/BT/Wifi for SHIFT, pls warning
Tks Bro
https://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=WnBTT205NmNiV3gzZUE9PQ

okay quick question since this is somewhat relevant to what i need help on. okay so how did you guys manage to vga output the shift on an external display? i tried to plug it to my 21" desktop monitor and also my 42" hdtv. i do not get a connnection whatsoever. i am also running the i00 rom. thanks! having it display vista is what i want. thanks

Did you try FN+T button on Vista?

Thanks all for your tips. I will test them soon.
@BoSJo: Not possible, because XP is installed.

BoSJo said:
Did you try FN+T button on Vista?
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BoSJo THANK YOU SO MUCH!!!!!! ahha omg i never knew that i had to press FN + T. man am i slow haha. i was wondering why the sound input on vista detected the vga cord but it never appeared on the screen. haha i have been puzzled ever since the first day i had it. thanks!

rumms said:
Is it possible, to see the Windows Mobile Screen on an external Display? Windows Vista works fine.
I´m using a Shift with i00-ROM-Deploy-20090309.
Thanks in advance.
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I guess that my answer is about a year late, but I'am also interested in coonnecting the WMobile Shift part to a TV. Looking at MSM7200 specification I see that there is an unconnected pin U4 with the output composite TV signal.
I'm kooking for a guy with firm hand and eagle eyes, who'll solder this sigle wire and get the TV-out capabiblities.
Hope that he'll share his "technological secrets" here