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Backlight settings when charging

Mornin Everyone
I recently got the ORA desktop cradle from expansys, cause I like to have my PDA charging next to my keyboard - it's a hangover from upgrading from an iPAQ. I like to have the machine permanently on and the screen backlight on full when it's the cradle.
Anyway I can't seem to make the setting in the both the backlight & power control applets to stick. I've unticked the turn off backlight box on the external power tab of backlight applet and unticked turn off device box on the advanced tab of the power applet.
This works for a day and then the next morning the boxes are ticked.
It doesn't seem to be connected with soft reset's though seem to stick through them.
Has anyone else seen this behaviour?
Cheers David

I had the same problem, hard reseted and problem gone
I think it was caused because I played a lot with some registry values, in order to make a custom cab with my prefered settings, and possibly I changed something that caused this.
Have u restored your settings form a backup? this can also be the cause, I guess...

Hi Pof
I've not restored any backups, but I do run programs like tweaks2k and wisbar....
It's really odd cause I soft reseted earlier and the setting's where ok and now after lunch they've gone back to being ticked.
Cheers David

Yes, I was having exactly the same issue you describe... I don't know how to fix it, but I got my backlight settings right again after hard reset and never had the issue again.

Of course the other problem that I had was that I installed phonealarm - the profiling program from Pocketmap http://www.pocketmax.net/phoneAlarm.html, which has a ability to set the state of the screen dependant on what profile you are in ...
Doh!
Cheers David

tytn

I got a locked screen when using the tytn. I think it went blank and I reset it - display went blank and is backlit

psxp said:
I am getting a blank screen randomly when using the TyTN. The display goes blank and is backlit. I often have to Soft Reset to get the display back. I have the latest ROM 1.35
Is this a know issue? if so, how can I get it fixed?
thanks!
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In my case, the system goes to sleep and the only way to wake it up is a soft reset. I have had this problem with other versions of ROMs as well, but it does not happen if I do not allow the system to go to sleep, thus I use my battery more quickly than I would like.

still puzzled
How do you stop the system from sleeping? Do you mean turning off??

I too have this issue. The phone will not "wake up" and the only way to continue use is to soft reset the phone. I am on Cingular with 1.34.

These freezes are often caused by active sync running all by itself. Providing you do not use push mail see the following thread:
see my post here - you need to follow each step carefully and consider the auto soft reset at a time before alarms are due.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...ht=fake+server
Mike

Display stays dimmed

I know I know there are tons of topics about this
But here this out. I ve got the problem for about a week and hope some one can help me out.
After 30 secs my screen goes to dimmed-fase ( correctly as I setted )
And after 1 min. it suppose to auto turn it off but, it does try to by it only locks it down so the screen stays dimmed and doesnt go in standby ( total black screen and stuff )
Any one know what this might be?
Ive check the power settings and I have ticked the auto turn off after a ... minutes not used :S
So hope some one can help me out cause it drains my poor battery

sounds like a software issue, perhaps someone here knows the correct registry settings applicable to powersaving

I hope some one knows Cause I thought there were more folks that are looking for this

is it plug in for recharging? if yes, it's normal, during rechargind, it dimms out after 30 mins or so (please check both options, to dim out after 1-2 mins.)

Nope just normal use, so I sure hope some one knows the right registry setting to it

When plugged in USB and sync with PC, the Touch HD stays on with dimmed backlight. No matter how long the settings to turn off the backlight, the backlight still keep on its minimum level.
This is totally different with my Hermes, which the backlight can turn completely off after some time.

ahlok_hk said:
When plugged in USB and sync with PC, the Touch HD stays on with dimmed backlight. No matter how long the settings to turn off the backlight, the backlight still keep on its minimum level.
This is totally different with my Hermes, which the backlight can turn completely off after some time.
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I noticed that happens even when using a bluetooth to sync. No matter cable or not, connected activesync keeps light on.

Arrggh? Does no one know the right registry key value to it ? its quit annoying

*bump*
Really no one knows anything about this

same problem for me
I use LumOS, are you using it too ?

I removed LumOS, and everything is good now

Do you have MobileMagic installed?
I did and it had 'Stay On' activated in its settings which meant it always stayed on!
Might be the case here too!

koxx said:
I removed LumOS, and everything is good now
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Even if my HD has no LumOS or Mobile Magic (from hard reset), the problem (backlight stays on during USB sync) still exist.
P.S. My previous X1 has the same behaviour...

koxx said:
I removed LumOS, and everything is good now
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Well I had it installed but I removed it later one cause I didnt liked it too much
But the problem still occurs so there most be a registry value that didnt change with the install :\ or something

I've looked up some registry value's but really dont know which one i've have to edit
or if I even have looked up the right one
BatteryTimeOut 30
BatteryTimeoutTemp 0
BatteryTimeoutUnchecked 0
Maybe some one that still has the function that the screen goes black after a while.
Can look up the registry value's ? here is the path I dont know if i'm looking at the right point:
HKCU\\ControlPanel\Backlight
Maybe some one is kind enough to list all of there value in this map ?
PS:
My problem is that my blacklight doesnt go fully to black and that's when using it normal. Not connected to anything or something .
It usualy goes to black after a XX amount of time. but that doesnt happen any more :\

Dang no one is offering his self up too look up those registery valves

Guys, the fix is simple. You must have turned on the Autolock feature using HD Tweak or Advanced Config.
If yes, just turn it off.

I have got the autolock function on, did it via HDtweak
Havent check it via Advanced config.
But I dont know what you mean with the last sentence?
Should I turn it on or off?
Edit:
Well dang you were right, i've turned off the autolock function.
And now the display does go to black.
But I find it strange that it worked nicely a few weeks ago and now the problem occurs
so any idea?

*bump*
still no one has found the solution?

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Screensaver that powers off screen but leaves device running?

Hi,
I've searched for several hours now in these forums and on Google, with no success.
I need an app that leaves the device switched on, but powers off the screen.
In settings/power I can dim the screen, but there is no setting to dim it completely or just switch it off.
I've found screensavers that can show a blank screen, but the screen is still actually powered up, just showing a black image presumably.
I've found apps that can switch off the screen. But you have to manually click on them to switch off the screen.
Does anyone know of a screensaver that after a set interval will leave the device running, but power off the screen please?
Suspend is no good, the device must be up and running apps.
Thanks for your help.

ClearOutLoft said:
Hi,
I've searched for several hours now in these forums and on Google, with no success.
I need an app that leaves the device switched on, but powers off the screen.
In settings/power I can dim the screen, but there is no setting to dim it completely or just switch it off.
I've found screensavers that can show a blank screen, but the screen is still actually powered up, just showing a black image presumably.
I've found apps that can switch off the screen. But you have to manually click on them to switch off the screen.
Does anyone know of a screensaver that after a set interval will leave the device running, but power off the screen please?
Suspend is no good, the device must be up and running apps.
Thanks for your help.
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What apps are you trying to "keep running"? The only thing that might be an issue when the screen goes into it's normal sleep mode is that audio will stop outputting, and wifi connections will suspend, but there's cabs available here to easily get around both of those (and keep them going even when the screen shuts off).

Well, it's actually to solve another long-running problem that has made me almost lose the will to live....
Alarms don't go off reliably on my TP2.
Sometimes, randomly, the alarm doesn't go off until I press the power button to wake it up. The the alarm instantly goes off. So, if I set an alarm for 6am, sometimes the phone wakes up and the alarm sounds, sometimes not. And if I switch the phone on manually sometime later, at 6:15 say, the 6am alarm sounds then.
It will work fine for a few days, then fail.
It happened on WM6.1 and still continues after upgrading to WM6.5.
I have spent countless hours googling and searching XDA-Dev. I have tried probably ten different alarm apps, with no luck. I have hard-reset various times. I have tried various recommended registry tweaks. I've tried checking the notification queue regularly for any errors. I've tried so many different suggestions, for example, never pressing the power button to turn the phone off, only ever let it hibernate automatically. Warm-resetting it each day. And the list goes on.
So, I'm experimenting with just leaving the phone on forever. But turning the screen off at night to save power / not shorten the life of the screen hardware.
Which leads me to the question about screensavers which actually power off the screen automatically after a set delay. Just like a normal screensaver on a PC.
It's hard to easily convey the frustration I have for the TP2. An excellent phone. But a phone which I can't trust to do the simplest thing: to wake me up in the morning?
It'll end up in the bin at some point very soon now.....

A suggestion
Hi,
In my opinion there must be an application, change or customisation that is leading you to those problems. My suggestion is, to perform a sync towards any computer or server to keep your contacts, then, hard reset and keep the phone with the factory defaults for a while. Then, test the phone's alarms and if all is okay, add one by one your applications and changes, testing the alarms in between. Please do that on the official ROM (whatever 6.5 or 6.1) but official one. You will flash if needed later on.
I know it will be a pain, but you will find the problem.
I am using a TP2 with stock WM6.5 ROM. I have not had yet any issue with the alarms. However, I remember to have had those kind of problems before with WM 5.0 and 6.1. There were always related to freeware applications, customisations, no official ROMs, registry hacks and restored backups done from older builds upon upgrade. The alarm bug in old WM version was also known, but I have not experienced it on newer versions.
There can be some issues with the notification database by times, but as said above, it is almost every time due to customisations.
I am not saying that we should keep our phones without applications, third party software, cooked ROMs, customisation etc. But the goal is to find out what is the reason, and believe me. It is the best if not only way.
If you post the list of applications and hacks that you have in your phone, I can try to see if there is any I could identify like guilty one, based on my own experience.
Complementary, I recommend you to install and use these two applications in attachment. They have worked for me on WM5, 6, 6.1 and 6.5 so far. They are freeware and therefore you can use them without problems.
Good luck!

Thanks for taking the time to reply. All very good advice. I'll have a go when I've got some free time again. In the meantime, has anyone come across a screensaver that actually powers off the screen please?
Thanks again.

ClearOutLoft said:
Well, it's actually to solve another long-running problem that has made me almost lose the will to live....
Alarms don't go off reliably on my TP2.
Sometimes, randomly, the alarm doesn't go off until I press the power button to wake it up. The the alarm instantly goes off. So, if I set an alarm for 6am, sometimes the phone wakes up and the alarm sounds, sometimes not. And if I switch the phone on manually sometime later, at 6:15 say, the 6am alarm sounds then.
It will work fine for a few days, then fail.
It happened on WM6.1 and still continues after upgrading to WM6.5.
I have spent countless hours googling and searching XDA-Dev. I have tried probably ten different alarm apps, with no luck. I have hard-reset various times. I have tried various recommended registry tweaks. I've tried checking the notification queue regularly for any errors. I've tried so many different suggestions, for example, never pressing the power button to turn the phone off, only ever let it hibernate automatically. Warm-resetting it each day. And the list goes on.
So, I'm experimenting with just leaving the phone on forever. But turning the screen off at night to save power / not shorten the life of the screen hardware.
Which leads me to the question about screensavers which actually power off the screen automatically after a set delay. Just like a normal screensaver on a PC.
It's hard to easily convey the frustration I have for the TP2. An excellent phone. But a phone which I can't trust to do the simplest thing: to wake me up in the morning?
It'll end up in the bin at some point very soon now.....
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do you turn your ringer to silent or vibrate when you go to bed? if so,
go to start/settings/clocks&alarms/more and make sure that the "sound alarms box" is checked. this will make sure that even if your phone ringers/alerts are off, your alarm will ring. also, if you charge your phone while you sleep, go to the backlight settings and uncheck the "turn screen off on ac power" box. if you cant sleep with the phone light on, set it to max dim on ac power and flip it over. i always had this issue when i had the tmobile wing.

ClearOutLoft said:
Hi,
I've searched for several hours now in these forums and on Google, with no success.
I need an app that leaves the device switched on, but powers off the screen.
In settings/power I can dim the screen, but there is no setting to dim it completely or just switch it off.
I've found screensavers that can show a blank screen, but the screen is still actually powered up, just showing a black image presumably.
I've found apps that can switch off the screen. But you have to manually click on them to switch off the screen.
Does anyone know of a screensaver that after a set interval will leave the device running, but power off the screen please?
Suspend is no good, the device must be up and running apps.
Thanks for your help.
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S2U2 on this forum.

try g alarm.it worked perfect for me with tilt

I have similar Issues with my TP2;
I notice that it is more to do with HIBERNATING than screen off.
My TP2 has go to the point where allowing it to go to hibernation means Screen of Death.
Overnight I charge it and do not let the screen go off and it seems ok (so far).
Guess I will have to Hard reset and test my freeware.
Cheers
G

I had the exact same problem. When the phone goes to sleep, it is ASLEEP. I didn't use the alarm too much but the phone would never notify me when SMS arrived. I'd hit the power switch to check, and bam, three messages arrive at once, some from hours ago. Immensely frustrating, but the problem went away when I installed Energy rom.

Backlight problem

Hi, I have a fairly new problem with my fantastic HD2.
When I plug it into my PC via USB, the backlight dims after the set 30 seconds, but it will not turn off altogether after the set time (1 or 2 minutes).
I've tried everything. I definitely have the backlight settings correct, but no matter what I do, cleaning RAM, whatever, it only dims but will not turn off. It used to turn off, but stopped doing so about a week ago.
Around that time I installed Co0kie's Home Tab 1.7.1 and thought that might be the problem, but I've uninstalled and reinstalled it, same problem and I don't think it's the cause. All the settings in the CHT Editor are OK too, I think.
Can anyone help? Maybe I could alter the registry setting directly, and if so could someone please tell me what it is?
Many thanks,
David