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Hi, i have a kjam with the latest rom from imate (2.16.9.1 WWE).......the problem is everytime i set the screen backlight on battery power to say 30secs or 1 minute etc and press the ok button and then when i'm on the today screen and tap the "device lock", the screen backlight turns off after 10 secs and when i turn the kjam back on and check the baclight settings it defaulted to 10 secs.......i have tried setting the backlight on battery power to every settings like 1-5 minutes etc for testing and it still defaults to 10 secs after tapping the device lock on the today screen.......the funny thing is when i dont tap on the device lock or not use the device lock at all the backlight turns off to the time i set it.......i always put my device on lock and i dont want to keep going to the backlight settings and change the time.......can anyone help?....thanks in advance.
irv777 said:
Hi, i have a kjam with the latest rom from imate (2.16.9.1 WWE).......the problem is everytime i set the screen backlight on battery power to say 30secs or 1 minute etc and press the ok button and then when i'm on the today screen and tap the "device lock", the screen backlight turns off after 10 secs and when i turn the kjam back on and check the baclight settings it defaulted to 10 secs.......i have tried setting the backlight on battery power to every settings like 1-5 minutes etc for testing and it still defaults to 10 secs after tapping the device lock on the today screen.......the funny thing is when i dont tap on the device lock or not use the device lock at all the backlight turns off to the time i set it.......i always put my device on lock and i dont want to keep going to the backlight settings and change the time.......can anyone help?....thanks in advance.
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I had the same problem using the same ROM. It first worked like a charm, but than suddenly this started to happen.
Finally I upgrade tot the latest Dutch TMO Rom (2.21.2.5.NLD) and now everythinh is ok again.
Sorry I can't be of more help
I've got exactly the same problem on my XDA mini-s only I'm using the BT Rom from their website, I'm begining to wonder if an Application we're running is causing the problem such as: -
Phone alarm
Pocket Music
Tom Tom
Resco file Explorer
Pocket TV
GPS Dash
SPB Backup
Any similarities?
For me it seems SPB Backup causes this problem. After reinstalling a backup this 10 seconds thing appears all the time.
Same issue...
I had the same issue, posted a thread....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=54991&highlight=
There are a few comments, including one that alluded to a hardware issue, but I did not get it resolved. Any other comments are welcomed.
just to get this topic up again.
I also have the same problem ans also after an automated backup (weekly) using SPB backup.
I restored an older file from SPB backup and I do not have the problem any more. It seems that this happened when the scheduled backup was used.
I think this is no longer an SPB Backup problem as there are others here and on the other post that are not using SPB backup and are still getting the same problem.
My ROM Version is 2.21.4.1 WWE
ROM Date 9th March 06
Radio Version 02.07.10
Protocol Version 413.1.03
EXT ROM Version 2.21.4.101
There must be somebody out there who understands what happens when you select "device locked" that is causing this to happen!
The device lock feature causes this bug.
If you don't want it to do that any more you have to do 2 things.
1) Turn off device lock
2) Change the registry key:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Backlight\Locklevel\
Change the "LockLevel" value to "0".
Then your phone will remember your backlight settings again. 8)
I had the same problem. But i did an upgrade to the dutch rom.
I did not have the device lock on so I don't know if that may be the problem.
There are a lot of this tiny little problems on my phone. but I always try new stuf on it, so I hard reset and reinstal very often. (Not restore from backup)
Gldrush98, you are an absolute STAR! I followed your instructions and now the backlight stays on for 1 minute as per the unlocked settings and 10 secs when it is set to locked.....Perfect many thanks.
No problem man, glad it worked. I had that problem too and I know how absolutely madning that bug can be! I don't know why they didn't fix this bug in the 2.2 roms.
Hi guys,
I setup when my JASJAM running on battery, to turn off backlight when the device is not used for 1 minutes.
When the device turn off backlight after 1 minutes, and i turn on it, and check the settings i see that there is a new value set - 10 sec.
Can someone help me, which registry value i need to change.
BR
This problem is purly with the rom you are using. I tried changing this when i installed the beta version of AKU 3.5 Rom and it wouldnt work, even after setting it in the registry! Everytime the device turns off it just resets to 10 secs....very annoying!
2 options.... Flash it, or live with it.
It has been reported that add on programs cause a conflict with the operating system. This results in the backlight defaulting to ten seconds. (With WM5, default is set at thirty seconds.) To remedy situation you can remove, one by one, any programs that you have loaded onto your PPC to find the offender.
I resolved this problem with a hard reset and it hasn't recurred so far.
I know I know there are tons of topics about this
But here this out. I ve got the problem for about a week and hope some one can help me out.
After 30 secs my screen goes to dimmed-fase ( correctly as I setted )
And after 1 min. it suppose to auto turn it off but, it does try to by it only locks it down so the screen stays dimmed and doesnt go in standby ( total black screen and stuff )
Any one know what this might be?
Ive check the power settings and I have ticked the auto turn off after a ... minutes not used :S
So hope some one can help me out cause it drains my poor battery
sounds like a software issue, perhaps someone here knows the correct registry settings applicable to powersaving
I hope some one knows Cause I thought there were more folks that are looking for this
is it plug in for recharging? if yes, it's normal, during rechargind, it dimms out after 30 mins or so (please check both options, to dim out after 1-2 mins.)
Nope just normal use, so I sure hope some one knows the right registry setting to it
When plugged in USB and sync with PC, the Touch HD stays on with dimmed backlight. No matter how long the settings to turn off the backlight, the backlight still keep on its minimum level.
This is totally different with my Hermes, which the backlight can turn completely off after some time.
ahlok_hk said:
When plugged in USB and sync with PC, the Touch HD stays on with dimmed backlight. No matter how long the settings to turn off the backlight, the backlight still keep on its minimum level.
This is totally different with my Hermes, which the backlight can turn completely off after some time.
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I noticed that happens even when using a bluetooth to sync. No matter cable or not, connected activesync keeps light on.
Arrggh? Does no one know the right registry key value to it ? its quit annoying
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Really no one knows anything about this
same problem for me
I use LumOS, are you using it too ?
I removed LumOS, and everything is good now
Do you have MobileMagic installed?
I did and it had 'Stay On' activated in its settings which meant it always stayed on!
Might be the case here too!
koxx said:
I removed LumOS, and everything is good now
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Even if my HD has no LumOS or Mobile Magic (from hard reset), the problem (backlight stays on during USB sync) still exist.
P.S. My previous X1 has the same behaviour...
koxx said:
I removed LumOS, and everything is good now
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Well I had it installed but I removed it later one cause I didnt liked it too much
But the problem still occurs so there most be a registry value that didnt change with the install :\ or something
I've looked up some registry value's but really dont know which one i've have to edit
or if I even have looked up the right one
BatteryTimeOut 30
BatteryTimeoutTemp 0
BatteryTimeoutUnchecked 0
Maybe some one that still has the function that the screen goes black after a while.
Can look up the registry value's ? here is the path I dont know if i'm looking at the right point:
HKCU\\ControlPanel\Backlight
Maybe some one is kind enough to list all of there value in this map ?
PS:
My problem is that my blacklight doesnt go fully to black and that's when using it normal. Not connected to anything or something .
It usualy goes to black after a XX amount of time. but that doesnt happen any more :\
Dang no one is offering his self up too look up those registery valves
Guys, the fix is simple. You must have turned on the Autolock feature using HD Tweak or Advanced Config.
If yes, just turn it off.
I have got the autolock function on, did it via HDtweak
Havent check it via Advanced config.
But I dont know what you mean with the last sentence?
Should I turn it on or off?
Edit:
Well dang you were right, i've turned off the autolock function.
And now the display does go to black.
But I find it strange that it worked nicely a few weeks ago and now the problem occurs
so any idea?
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still no one has found the solution?
wrong reply
Hi to all,
i am running Essential ROM 1.7 (used to run X-Treme before) and on both of them my topaz activates screen every night exactly at 23:59. So it turns on, and go to sleep after 2 minutes (as set in settings). Anyone experienced this? I have bunch of apps installed and don't really want to try uninstalling all of them
Do you use G-Alarm?
Same problem to me and I use galarm.
It is something that G-Alarm does on purpose... If you go to the developer's site, it explains why.
"HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\ageye\G-Alarm"
Don't wakeup at midnight
Because of the Windows alarm bug, G-Alarm wakes the device at midnight so Windows Mobile can rebuild its notification queue. If you turn this off by changing or adding following registry value, it may happen that an alarm doesn't go off:
MidnightWakeUp: False
http://www.ageye.de/index.php?s=galarm/support/manual/hidden_options
Glad somebody else asked this, it's been bugging me for a few days but I never got around to posting.
I wouldn't mind the turning on, but mine doesn't turn off! I have my timeouts set to 3 mins for backlight and 4 mins for device (they're high because I use it to play Scrabble!) I've left the midnight thing on for as long as 10 minutes before manually turning it off. Any ideas?
Hi
I think that is poor programming, you can turn the phone on without turning the backlight on and this happens all the time many times a day.
Regards
Phil
Hi,
I've searched for several hours now in these forums and on Google, with no success.
I need an app that leaves the device switched on, but powers off the screen.
In settings/power I can dim the screen, but there is no setting to dim it completely or just switch it off.
I've found screensavers that can show a blank screen, but the screen is still actually powered up, just showing a black image presumably.
I've found apps that can switch off the screen. But you have to manually click on them to switch off the screen.
Does anyone know of a screensaver that after a set interval will leave the device running, but power off the screen please?
Suspend is no good, the device must be up and running apps.
Thanks for your help.
ClearOutLoft said:
Hi,
I've searched for several hours now in these forums and on Google, with no success.
I need an app that leaves the device switched on, but powers off the screen.
In settings/power I can dim the screen, but there is no setting to dim it completely or just switch it off.
I've found screensavers that can show a blank screen, but the screen is still actually powered up, just showing a black image presumably.
I've found apps that can switch off the screen. But you have to manually click on them to switch off the screen.
Does anyone know of a screensaver that after a set interval will leave the device running, but power off the screen please?
Suspend is no good, the device must be up and running apps.
Thanks for your help.
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What apps are you trying to "keep running"? The only thing that might be an issue when the screen goes into it's normal sleep mode is that audio will stop outputting, and wifi connections will suspend, but there's cabs available here to easily get around both of those (and keep them going even when the screen shuts off).
Well, it's actually to solve another long-running problem that has made me almost lose the will to live....
Alarms don't go off reliably on my TP2.
Sometimes, randomly, the alarm doesn't go off until I press the power button to wake it up. The the alarm instantly goes off. So, if I set an alarm for 6am, sometimes the phone wakes up and the alarm sounds, sometimes not. And if I switch the phone on manually sometime later, at 6:15 say, the 6am alarm sounds then.
It will work fine for a few days, then fail.
It happened on WM6.1 and still continues after upgrading to WM6.5.
I have spent countless hours googling and searching XDA-Dev. I have tried probably ten different alarm apps, with no luck. I have hard-reset various times. I have tried various recommended registry tweaks. I've tried checking the notification queue regularly for any errors. I've tried so many different suggestions, for example, never pressing the power button to turn the phone off, only ever let it hibernate automatically. Warm-resetting it each day. And the list goes on.
So, I'm experimenting with just leaving the phone on forever. But turning the screen off at night to save power / not shorten the life of the screen hardware.
Which leads me to the question about screensavers which actually power off the screen automatically after a set delay. Just like a normal screensaver on a PC.
It's hard to easily convey the frustration I have for the TP2. An excellent phone. But a phone which I can't trust to do the simplest thing: to wake me up in the morning?
It'll end up in the bin at some point very soon now.....
A suggestion
Hi,
In my opinion there must be an application, change or customisation that is leading you to those problems. My suggestion is, to perform a sync towards any computer or server to keep your contacts, then, hard reset and keep the phone with the factory defaults for a while. Then, test the phone's alarms and if all is okay, add one by one your applications and changes, testing the alarms in between. Please do that on the official ROM (whatever 6.5 or 6.1) but official one. You will flash if needed later on.
I know it will be a pain, but you will find the problem.
I am using a TP2 with stock WM6.5 ROM. I have not had yet any issue with the alarms. However, I remember to have had those kind of problems before with WM 5.0 and 6.1. There were always related to freeware applications, customisations, no official ROMs, registry hacks and restored backups done from older builds upon upgrade. The alarm bug in old WM version was also known, but I have not experienced it on newer versions.
There can be some issues with the notification database by times, but as said above, it is almost every time due to customisations.
I am not saying that we should keep our phones without applications, third party software, cooked ROMs, customisation etc. But the goal is to find out what is the reason, and believe me. It is the best if not only way.
If you post the list of applications and hacks that you have in your phone, I can try to see if there is any I could identify like guilty one, based on my own experience.
Complementary, I recommend you to install and use these two applications in attachment. They have worked for me on WM5, 6, 6.1 and 6.5 so far. They are freeware and therefore you can use them without problems.
Good luck!
Thanks for taking the time to reply. All very good advice. I'll have a go when I've got some free time again. In the meantime, has anyone come across a screensaver that actually powers off the screen please?
Thanks again.
ClearOutLoft said:
Well, it's actually to solve another long-running problem that has made me almost lose the will to live....
Alarms don't go off reliably on my TP2.
Sometimes, randomly, the alarm doesn't go off until I press the power button to wake it up. The the alarm instantly goes off. So, if I set an alarm for 6am, sometimes the phone wakes up and the alarm sounds, sometimes not. And if I switch the phone on manually sometime later, at 6:15 say, the 6am alarm sounds then.
It will work fine for a few days, then fail.
It happened on WM6.1 and still continues after upgrading to WM6.5.
I have spent countless hours googling and searching XDA-Dev. I have tried probably ten different alarm apps, with no luck. I have hard-reset various times. I have tried various recommended registry tweaks. I've tried checking the notification queue regularly for any errors. I've tried so many different suggestions, for example, never pressing the power button to turn the phone off, only ever let it hibernate automatically. Warm-resetting it each day. And the list goes on.
So, I'm experimenting with just leaving the phone on forever. But turning the screen off at night to save power / not shorten the life of the screen hardware.
Which leads me to the question about screensavers which actually power off the screen automatically after a set delay. Just like a normal screensaver on a PC.
It's hard to easily convey the frustration I have for the TP2. An excellent phone. But a phone which I can't trust to do the simplest thing: to wake me up in the morning?
It'll end up in the bin at some point very soon now.....
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do you turn your ringer to silent or vibrate when you go to bed? if so,
go to start/settings/clocks&alarms/more and make sure that the "sound alarms box" is checked. this will make sure that even if your phone ringers/alerts are off, your alarm will ring. also, if you charge your phone while you sleep, go to the backlight settings and uncheck the "turn screen off on ac power" box. if you cant sleep with the phone light on, set it to max dim on ac power and flip it over. i always had this issue when i had the tmobile wing.
ClearOutLoft said:
Hi,
I've searched for several hours now in these forums and on Google, with no success.
I need an app that leaves the device switched on, but powers off the screen.
In settings/power I can dim the screen, but there is no setting to dim it completely or just switch it off.
I've found screensavers that can show a blank screen, but the screen is still actually powered up, just showing a black image presumably.
I've found apps that can switch off the screen. But you have to manually click on them to switch off the screen.
Does anyone know of a screensaver that after a set interval will leave the device running, but power off the screen please?
Suspend is no good, the device must be up and running apps.
Thanks for your help.
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S2U2 on this forum.
try g alarm.it worked perfect for me with tilt
I have similar Issues with my TP2;
I notice that it is more to do with HIBERNATING than screen off.
My TP2 has go to the point where allowing it to go to hibernation means Screen of Death.
Overnight I charge it and do not let the screen go off and it seems ok (so far).
Guess I will have to Hard reset and test my freeware.
Cheers
G
I had the exact same problem. When the phone goes to sleep, it is ASLEEP. I didn't use the alarm too much but the phone would never notify me when SMS arrived. I'd hit the power switch to check, and bam, three messages arrive at once, some from hours ago. Immensely frustrating, but the problem went away when I installed Energy rom.