Whats the general consencers on the mobile TV ? after trying it out I am far from impressed, picture quality is like 3/10 maybe 5/10 if your watching somebody who's not moving, the sound I thought was pretty good but to pay for that service.....not on your nelly !
@ the moment it's free and i'm still not going to use it again screwed my poor eyes up watching all these grains, but thats just my opinion.
I never saw vodafone TV work, can anyone confirm if it's the same sort of quality ?
the only comparison I have is on three. that is spot on with real live tv. I agree with you, as the tmobile service stands I won't be paying for it!
if the content changed more often (i.e daily/live tv) i'd be tempted to subscribe, especially as it is pretty cheap on the monthly option
If you are really serious about tv on your device... I would get an unlimited data plan and buy a slingbox. I just got a slingbox for fathers day. I can watch every channel from Concast. Plus I can control my DVR and watch all my recorded programs. It sure beats Cingular TV, or what ever they call it.
Slingmobile also works over wi-fi...
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Better that nowt
I believe £3.50 (t-mobile - uk) is not too much of a price to pay.. but the quality is that if "3" when it started its video promo a few years ago. To be honest though we all pay through the nose for this sort of product through ads anyway. Me personally ,I would rather wait for for intergration on DVB-H (not DVB-T) or an add on where you would pay a one off fee like you do for a set top box. Until then, this service is an added bonus for a network that does more for it's customer like say Orange/Vodaphone don't.
The internet has been mobile for a while now even though Vodaphone has started to coin in on this phase.
Saying that I just cancelled my Sat subscription cos I could watch the Nasa space launch within my internet bundle. Plus I can watch 24, lost etc via the network channels anyway, So My Vario 2 is more than capable and I get to take it where I want when I want. (Hopefully the signal in cleethorpes will be better next time I go to the seaside (coast)) Hehe
@Johndawg, I was actually looking at getting a slingbox a littel while ago. So you would say by far this is the best way to have mobile TV on your pocket pc in regards to quality ? Does it matter what slingbox you get or are they about the same in what they offer for this service ? Also are you on web & walk £7.50 m8 ?
@Scootytoo, I to am thinking about canceling my Sky subscription, I can't believe how pants it become, but I love my football and thats where they shaft ya when you subscribe to a package as well as I now have the broadband max included, clever buggers !
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@Johndawg, I was actually looking at getting a slingbox a littel while ago. So you would say by far this is the best way to have mobile TV on your pocket pc in regards to quality ? Does it matter what slingbox you get or are they about the same in what they offer for this service ? Also are you on web & walk £7.50 m8 ?
@Scootytoo, I to am thinking about canceling my Sky subscription, I can't believe how pants it become, but I love my football and thats where they shaft ya when you subscribe to a package as well as I now have the broadband max included, clever buggers !
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There has been many forms of mobile tv over the past couple of years where the solution (very simliar to the slingbox) has pumped media via wlan/net etc. The tech was very limited and fussy. I.e using tv card with a stream app. Too much messing around and the end result not worth the effort. Besides, this slingbox is a clean idea for people with land lines and home broadband. I have had this contract with t-mobile since they were known as one to one. Swapped once to get the spv e200 just so I could watch media such as this. then came back to t-mobile for compact, vario and now the vario 2. I don't have a land line so therefore the slingbox won't work for my family as this is my only means of net access. What I'm trying to do is streaming vid or music from my set top box or sat box (freesat - at present) then onto my brake out box for nvidia tv/vid card combie. Not perfect, but does the job as I save the media then drop it on to flash card to use later. But Recently I wanted to watch the nasa online tv station for latest launch, vario 2 just couldn't cope so I used my Tablet pc with vario 2 as the modem. It was good, but not true mobile tv. As for sat... Like I said before we pay for media via the products I.e ads, then they get upset cos you want to cancel. fair enough I was only paying 15 pounds per month, but for three shows a week such as lost, 24 and daybreak. it would have been cheaper to wait for the box sets. but I have ended up with Freesat which as you may know is better than a standard freeview box. bonus!
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Ok, so Vodafone UK is offering FREE SKY TV on your mobile until Jan via 3G. As I have unlimited 3G, would love to get it. Been in touch with Vodafone, they don't support the Jasjar (surprise, surprise). The only info they have to get it if you have a Vodafone 3G mobile, is to go to the Vodafone Live! on your mobile, and there is an entertainment link which takes you there. Problem is that even though I have all 3G settings set to Vodafone ( APN "internet", username "web", password "web") the Vodafone Live! page on PIE (Pocket Internet Explorer) comes up only in a basic form with certainly no entertainment link. I tried asking them at least for a URL, but they had no idea. Anyone out there know if we can get this going, would be just awesome on the JasJar's VGA screen!!!
Am I the only one that wants SKY TV on the JasJar?
In a word: Yes.
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No seriously why would you want to watch compressed streaming TV at a ridiculous cost per MB?
As far as I am aware wmp doesnt even do full screen.
I'd rather have a bowl of pork farms sausages and a sexual encounter with a rhesus monkey ..
But then I am a tremendous pervert.
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In a word: Yes.
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No seriously why would you want to watch compressed streaming TV at a ridiculous cost per MB?
As far as I am aware wmp doesnt even do full screen.
I'd rather have a bowl of pork farms sausages and a sexual encounter with a rhesus monkey ..
But then I am a tremendous pervert.
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That is offensive. One of my best looking dates was a rhesus monkey!
lol
And one of my best dates was with a Pork Farms sausage
When on unlimited usage, watching SKY TV in my car while I'm waiting for the wife to finish her shopping, seems like a good idea, no? Maybe better just to watch you on webcam with the rhesus monkey!!
If anyone is interested I answered this question on another thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=33294
Did a bit of experimenting to get it to work, although I don't think I've ever used it (except to test that it works, but it's FREE - for now!).
Quality is ok, but it is designed for small res mobiles.
http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....30015758142&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MESE:IT&rd=1
doesnt seem a bad price either?
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http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI....30015758142&rd=1&sspagename=STRK:MESE:IT&rd=1
doesnt seem a bad price either?
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Hell! Where did he get that from at this early stage? :shock:
Back of a lorry?
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Back of a lorry?
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Its been on the orange website a couple of days now, so probably just bought it to make money.
7 available... doubt he's started 7 new contracts...
I was just in the Orange shop signing up for a Universal contract (long story). They'd just got their TyTNs in. One of you geeks must have been on the phone at the time, they were putting some behind the desk for reserves
It's a beautiful phone, not particularly attractively coloured IMHO (I don't like the two tone greys, would prefer a solid colour), but very good. It'll sell like Natalie Portman selling naked hot cakes - nice, but slightly mushy keyboard, good screen, all mod cons except GPS and VGA.
They were selling for £150 on > £25 contract, £245 on cheaper contracts etc. Good price, I'd love one... but the Mrs Vijay555 already has me on ebay duty clearing out my old rubbish.
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Just got mine yesterday, it's got its niggles (I'm switching from a Treo 650) but I'm generally happy with it. Being able to watch video from BBC News over broadband via my home WiFi network is definitely the coolest thing I've done on it so far!
Tonight I've been streaming mp3s and divx video (in TCPMP) from my desktop PC over my home wireless network, just over standard windows file sharing! Very impressive! Just need to get the playback frame rate better, I'm sure the good folks at TCPMP will optimize it shortly...
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Just got mine yesterday, it's got its niggles (I'm switching from a Treo 650) but I'm generally happy with it. Being able to watch video from BBC News over broadband via my home WiFi network is definitely the coolest thing I've done on it so far!
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Just got mine yesterday, it's got its niggles (I'm switching from a Treo 650) but I'm generally happy with it. Being able to watch video from BBC News over broadband via my home WiFi network is definitely the coolest thing I've done on it so far!
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I'm accessing my windows desktop file shares on my smartphone via the "map network drive" feature of Resco Explorer - it's pretty much just like browsing my shares from a normal Windows PC!
Thought I would just give my two pence on the Legend, just got one for the wife, I'm sticking with my Touch Pro2 Didn't see an "I GOT MINE" thread but if there is one I apologise.
The aluminium body is awesome very impressive and handles well
Nice and fast, no choppiness, bluetooth contacts sync (40 or 50 odd) from my TP2 went through faultlessly and easily (no confirming each one, etc) some lack of copy and paste on gmails, weird that it doesn't come up as a "proper" mail account even though the mails come through fine. Had to SMS my wireless key from TP2, then forward the message so I could copy & paste into wireless settings. Sucks a bit, but I'm used to WinMo goodness Wireless connects fine each time. (TP2 is sometimes a bit flakey connecting with all ROMs at least on my AP) Doesn't know what to do with WM notes files but that's to be expected.
On-screen keyboard is a bit too small for my fingers but no probz for the wife.
Capacitive screen takes some getting used to after using my resistive TP2. Fingernails don't work! hehe booo (and no stylus) Screen is very nice to look, seems brighter and "punchier" than my TP2. (think it's OLED?)
GSM signal doesn't seem as good as my TP2, sometimes you will get "emergency calls only" whereas on my TP2 that is much more rare, particularly since the 4.xx radio upgrades. Still early days yet though.
No video calling which is a minor downer since my TP2 has it, also it doesn't seem to tilt sideways although it comes with Teeter (haven't tried that yet tho) wondering if it really has a tilt sensor or not. Guy in the shop thought it didn't. But it does rotate to landscape when it needs to (camera, etc) so no biggie either way.
The optical scrolly dot below the screen is a nice touch. (particularly as she is paranoid about mucking up the screen until we put screen protector on haha)
Good to see VPN support, haven't tried it yet though. I set up IPSEC/L2TP (ie. the way WinMo demands IPSEC) at home so we will see if Android will play ball with that.
Vodafone branding is almost non-existent from what I can see, definitely not the white and red train wreck I was faced with when I got my Voda TP2 haha
No crashes yet although we did have to reset to factory defaults after a gmail signup issue where it set the primary account to something she didn't want (cos it was failing to create account all over the place, ended up creating on a PC) so had to reset the whole thing Still it wasn't that painful as this was in the first hour or two of getting it.
A nice looking phone she's well happy with it, but then she upgraded from an ancient Samsung flip from like 5 years ago haha It's the first time either of us have really played with an Android phone, she's used to dumbphones but is very tech savvy (for a girl haha ) and I've been using PPC / WinMo for over 10 years.
Personally my first impression is I'm glad I have the TP2 wouldn't trade it for the Legend but she's over the moon with it so everyone's happy If I were to place Android in the market based on a few hours of minor fiddling I would place it between WinMo (power users) and iPhone (hairdressers haha ) in terms of ease of use and capabilities. No plans to hack on it, I'll wait till she gets bored of it first
Got it free on a £20 p/m contract on Vodafone from a Voda store, they threw in a leather case and generic screen protectors without a fight. Were really nice to deal with. 500 meg data, can't remember the rest of the details but will find out if anyone asks. Also it is possible to put a consumer tariff (which this was) on a business account, which I didn't know.
I've just got this deal too and so far I'm very pleased. Although i didn't haggle for a leather case and screen protectors, WHAT A FOOL!
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Got it free on a £20 p/m contract on Vodafone from a Voda store, they threw in a leather case and generic screen protectors without a fight. Were really nice to deal with. 500 meg data, can't remember the rest of the details but will find out if anyone asks. Also it is possible to put a consumer tariff (which this was) on a business account, which I didn't know.
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Yes please!
Samfau2 said:
I've just got this deal too and so im I'm very pleased. Although i didn't haggle for a leather case and screen protectors, WHAT A FOOL!
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Some tips for you:
1. Show up 15 mins before the shop closes
2. Take a hot chick with you
3. Maybe have a business account with 2 phones already
4. "It comes with x, yeah?"
5. Be cheeky
heheee
I dug the paperwork out and the full details are as follows:
"Free" HTC Legend
100 minutes xnet
500 texts
500 meg data (not listed on receipt but confirmed verbally, I have "VP VMI" on the price plan name, Vodafone Mobile Internet?)
Free case (generic leather vodafone one, £6 worth, she'll change that as I suspect it's not nearly pink or girly enough)
Free screen protectors (the generic vodafone ones u have to cut up, they are a bit crap but will do for now, don't use the mirror ones they make the colours go funny, again she will probably get an invisibleshield or sommet cos she likes mine on the TP2)
Free mobile TV all channels for a month (remember to cancel)
Free 10 tracks a month for one month off the music store (ditto)
Free insurance for a month (may not cancel this ...)
Phone pre-packaged with a memory card, think it's 4 gig
24 month contract
I wasn't giving these guys a hard time at all, salesman was quite happy, it was quite a quick impulse buy although we did a bit of research on the phone and tariffs beforehand. The deal I got was printed up on the wall in the VF store so it's nothing special in that respect. They did mention they were having no problems shifting the Legends
Hope this helps.
That £20 deal is on VF website plus at the moment they offer £150 on Quidco so under £15pm. Mine arrives tomorrow ;-)
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That £20 deal is on VF website plus at the moment they offer £150 on Quidco so under £15pm. Mine arrives tomorrow ;-)
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Ah man I tried that cashback thing once (not quidco another one) and it just never came through. Couldn't be arsed chasing them over it. Awesome deal that tho.
Crap! Why didn't i get cashback on this beast?
I think i was just wayyy too excited to actually be getting a decent phone. I've been living with a brick for way too long.
I think voda have the legend exclusively and i had my heart set on it, i think the deal is pretty reasonable though and ive had nothing but great signal, web coverage and service so far.
I'm loving my Legend too, I think it is an absolutely cracking phone. I'm also pleased about the minimal Voda branding, all I see is the splash screen on boot, that's it.
I got 300 mins, unlimited texts and 500mb internet for £20 PCM. I actually went for the £20 PCM deal for 100 mins, etc as it seemed enough and was a good enough deal that I didn't feel it worth haggling but when he phoned up to confirm he quoted me the £25PCM deal for £20! I did the honest thing and said that's not what they originally quoted but he said that now he's accidently quoted it they have to offer it - bit random but hey.
Awesome, lucky you. I'm not likely to use more than my hundred mins but might be pushing it occasionally with the 500 texts, we'll see. Also, I agree its nice to see that Vodafone kept the branding to a minimum.
well mines finally arrived and I'm loving. only slight annoyance is voda haven't provided the update to i can get layer and google goggles apps. i read on vf forums its coming soon though.
has anyone debranded ?
I was also slightly annoyed it didn't have the update. But for free apps like Google goggles you can usually find an apk file on the net and install it using sometimg like astro. Not always the the latest version though and you can't update it. I'll upload goggles for you if you can't find it. Haven't tried for layar.
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This is probably the wrong forum to ask this on, but does anyone have an idea of what a full package line-up from the Sprint TV service includes? I have the free tv that comes w/ the phone, and it's pretty cool and I think I would use it more if the programming was better - any ideas on where I could get a schedule for the channels they carry? I'm not talking about the free ones, but all of the pay channels they have - it's very vague on the website.
You can see everything available from your phone. Not worth the money you have to pay, IMO. Get yourself a used Slingbox on eBay, and watch the TV you already pay for at home on your TV. I've had mine for months and it is BAD ASS!
So your slingbox sends it to the phone huh. Good call man! I didn't even think of that! Thanks.
Yup.....through the existing internet connection you have at home, the Slingbox can control your tv, cable box, satellite box, etc. Depending on which model of Slingbox you get, you can control multiple devices and it can control your DVR and even a DVD player. It's better than way than to pay Sprint a monthly fee for no where near as many channels. Not to mention, you can view the Slingbox on 3G, 4G or WiFi and SprintTV only lets you use your 3G signal.
Sprint TV sucks.
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Sprint TV sucks.
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I agree on the Slingbox. I've had mine for years and it has been great. It works perfect on my Evo with 3g coverage.
Sprint TV works just as poorly as it did when I first tried it several years ago on a Treo 700.
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Sprint TV works just as poorly as it did when I first tried it several years ago on a Treo 700.
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hmm, it works pretty damn good on my phone.
I haven't grabbed a Slingbox yet, but I'm going to next Monday. I appreciate the help.
Slingbox quality on evo?
How is the quality of the picture when using the slingbox app on your evo? Does it get a constant feed or does it buffer often? You can watch dvr'd progams through the application? I definitely might be interested based on your feedback.
Yeah I know, not the first thread on the subject
I am a rather happy owner of a Galaxy Tab for the past 36 hours and I just wanted to share my feelings about the usage as a phone. Until I own it I was pretty much convinced this was going to be my main phone, just a question of being able to use a Bluetooth headset with it.
I am not 100% sure anymore.
First, and probably because it's the first time I use a headset I have found this much less convenient than using a phone (This is hopefully just a question of getting used to it). Can't see who is calling (Yep with the right headset the name will show, I may purchase one, but still wont have the picture), people around can hear much better what you're saying, if if you have to manipulate the tab for whatever reason, given its size you feel clumsy
Second, texting while walking in the street is pretty much more difficult. The Tab is big, easy to drop (Read the few threads around of people who broke their screen). It takes me half a second to take my Touch Pro 2 out of my pocket, get the keyboard out and type some messages while walking. And given its size I nearly never dropped it (And whenever I did it always survived without being wounded ). I am definitely slower with my tab (Plus I have to get used to use an on-screen keyboard, but then yeah on this I guess it's a question of getting used to it)
Third (maybe funny): while in meetings I didn't see anybody raise an eyebrow whenever I was texting with my TP2 (looks a bit like a blackberry and anyway quite discrete) I can see how much attention I draw whenever I answer some txt or emails now ! And with the screen size it make sit easy to see what I ma doing... Not the Tab's neg, but for me kind of a drawback
Last one (This one may make some laugh): I love clubbing, bar hoping, etc... I thought it would fit my back pocket. And it does ! however try dancing with that in your back pocket... That's not gonna work And there is no way I'd leave my phone at the cloak, I need it with me (take phone numbers, give direction to friends, etc...). I'd be better off leaving the Tab in the cloak and still go around with a small device (Even an average sized device like my TP2 handles OK while dancing)
I love the form factor, so easy to carry around, but in the end I understand much better Blackberry's approach with the Playbook, it's probably the best way to go, and I am considering using the Tab as a second device.
However I see the pain ahead... Don't wanna have 2 plans. And that's where it sucks. It seems in many countries you are able to have 2 SIM cards with the same number (With kind of a master device and a slave one). Couldn't find anything similar with AT&T in the US If anybody ever heard of this kind of services.... It would be perfect. Then I can still swap SIM cards but that sucks... (And I guess if you do it 5 times a day you may damage your SIM (If not lose it while dropping it)). Another solution is to tether the phone to the Tab (Great I paid for a 3G Tab for nothing !!) but on that I am quite worried about the battery life of both devices Maybe through Bluetooth rather than Wifi ? Would consume less ? If anybody has an idea... Or could try SIM cloning... But it seems it's not really possible anymore with SIM v2 (And besides if the operator doesn't offer the service described above I guess there will be conflicts between the 2 devices at some stage (Not 100% sure but possible)
Anyway... Don't flame me, would just be happy to exchange on the subject with people who have found solutions, have ideas on the matter, or just inform future buyers
Waoh, zero interest on the subject !
Well, i dont have one, but i can defiantly see where using it as a phone could lead to some problems, even if it does fit in you back pocket. It is interesting that you attempted it though, but pulling it out at meetings...thats priceless
Alcibiade said:
I love the form factor, so easy to carry around, but in the end I understand much better Blackberry's approach with the Playbook, it's probably the best way to go, and I am considering using the Tab as a second device.
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I think the irony is that most of us in Europe wouldn't consider using the Tab as primary phone even though it is a fully functional phone, whereas in the US it's the other way around.
However I see the pain ahead... Don't wanna have 2 plans. And that's where it sucks. It seems in many countries you are able to have 2 SIM cards with the same number (With kind of a master device and a slave one).
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In the UK, we don't have the ability to have multiple SIMs with the same phone number either, but it is far less of an issue compared to the US because we have an extremely competitive market for data.
For example, on T-Mobile in the UK, for £20 (around $32) I can get 6 months worth of mobile internet with 1GB FUP which is ideal for a Tab which doesn't go out and about too often - and there's no overages, just an understanding that they may restrict service if you regularly go over your FUP allowance.
For £10 ($16) a month, I can get truly unlimited internet (excludes tethering) on Giffgaff which is ideal for the more mobile Tab.
When it comes to contracts, I have a mobile broadband contract on 3 that gives me 15GB a month for £15, which allows tethering etc.
I'm planning on heading over to Florida for 6 or 7 weeks early next year, and I'm probably going to get a MiFi of some sort with a T-Mobile Web Connect SIM, but it's going to be a hell of a lot more expensive than something comparable in the UK.
Regards,
Dave
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Well, i dont have one, but i can defiantly see where using it as a phone could lead to some problems, even if it does fit in you back pocket. It is interesting that you attempted it though, but pulling it out at meetings...thats priceless
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The thing is since not so many people know what it is, it attracts attention... So it's not very discrete, while a small phone you can type your personal messages during meetings people don't really pay attention (Or think you're sending professional messages)
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I think the irony is that most of us in Europe wouldn't consider using the Tab as primary phone even though it is a fully functional phone, whereas in the US it's the other way around.
In the UK, we don't have the ability to have multiple SIMs with the same phone number either, but it is far less of an issue compared to the US because we have an extremely competitive market for data.
For example, on T-Mobile in the UK, for £20 (around $32) I can get 6 months worth of mobile internet with 1GB FUP which is ideal for a Tab which doesn't go out and about too often - and there's no overages, just an understanding that they may restrict service if you regularly go over your FUP allowance.
For £10 ($16) a month, I can get truly unlimited internet (excludes tethering) on Giffgaff which is ideal for the more mobile Tab.
When it comes to contracts, I have a mobile broadband contract on 3 that gives me 15GB a month for £15, which allows tethering etc.
I'm planning on heading over to Florida for 6 or 7 weeks early next year, and I'm probably going to get a MiFi of some sort with a T-Mobile Web Connect SIM, but it's going to be a hell of a lot more expensive than something comparable in the UK.
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Dave
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Well... I am European... (Although I live in NY)
US carriers suck for data plans. I lived in japan and HK before where for half the price I got much better service... Definitely for £10 a month I wouldn't even bother thinking about using my phone SIM card in my Tab to take advantage of my unlimited data plan (Which by the way in the SU looks more and more like it will be limited by throttling down once you reach a threshold.............)
Why would you need 2 plans with AT&T tab? I guess you didn't want to flash her.
Your other points are completely valid. It is just a matter of personal opinion/wanting to replace the phone with tab enough. Thanks for sharing!
Here are some workarounds you could investigate:
Try a bluetooth stereo headset with a display.
Use the Sony LiveView and wear as a watch.
Type with a tiny bluetooth keyboard.
Get a separate smartphone with a VNC client. Turn on the mobile hotspot, on your Galaxy Tab, and then control it with the smaller smartphone.
How is the Galaxy Tab's battery life as a phone, by the way?
Thanks for the post. I've been thinking to get the tab to replace my I9000 as the main phone, but after I read your post, I think I'll hold it for a while .....
PLinga said:
Here are some workarounds you could investigate:
Try a bluetooth stereo headset with a display.
Use the Sony LiveView and wear as a watch.
Type with a tiny bluetooth keyboard.
Get a separate smartphone with a VNC client. Turn on the mobile hotspot, on your Galaxy Tab, and then control it with the smaller smartphone.
How is the Galaxy Tab's battery life as a phone, by the way?
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I thought about these options... Still not satisfying
Battery life ? I dont phone much but definitely much better than my Touch pro 2 (And I use activesync, bluetooth, etc...)