Hi @ all,
got my Hermes for about two weeks now, and flashed LVSW after 4days
In fact, everything was working fine, for the beginning, but after a while some weird problems appeared (like the phone not waking up, sound stuttering, or slow response although i killed all programs with a task manager) and i switched over to Schap's WM6 GER Rom. This has very interesting features, and does not freeze as often as LVSW did, but its slow too... the VOIP with 1&1 as my Provider doesn't work, and some other minor things will make me switch again very soon.
Actually my question is: Are there any WM5 oms out there, which have been customized? Or are there only WM6 develompents going on?
It seems that there are some major stability issues with some devices running WM6...
greetings
garfield
Depends what you're looking for....
Hi Garfield...
You're very brave (or foolish) flashing after only a few days
There are many, many customised ROMs out there for both WM5 and WM6 but many don't leave the developers bench! It really depends what you class as "interesting".
The reason why most of the development now sits with WM6 is that WM5 has really been "done" - there is little more to improve upon except adding applications to a ROM build which is really a bit pointless for many - as everyone has different tastes in application choices. There is nothing more annoying than having valuable space taken up with something you don't use and can't remove! (ie - it's easier to add later than to try and take away at the start) This is why many "vanilla" roms are popular with many people. WM6 also is an ideal developers area as it is still very new - and every single WM6 ROM you use you should still consider a "beta" and so will occasionally have the odd quirk. Most are discussed in their own threads.
My personal advice is rather than seeking "interesting" ROMS, read the wiki and the forums - use the tools provided and do what I do - make your own custom ROMS to your taste based on a vanilla. Pretty much everything you need is here in the forums and it's much more satisfying creating your own NBH than just burning someone elses!
Not to mention the satisfaction of knowing how the guts of your device actually work - just be prepared for the odd late-night unbricking session
If you do decide to go down that route though - don't forget to donate to the guys who write the tools to help keep the developments going!
Hello, thank you for feedback
already thought about playing with a kitchen, when you wrote your reply...
So now, i tried "corePRO Kitchen" and found it very, very easy to use, although i encountered some problems:
Assuming i take a shipped t-mob_ger rom put it into the kitchen, extracted it, and went all the way through the step-by-step-tutorial. Afterwards i flashed it to my Hermes, and it worked. (hehe this is the way it should be, i think ) But the splashimages remained purple (from Shaps WM6 rom).
Then i wanted to do the same with a Faria-WM6-rom, and this time, the phone didn't boot anymore... again the splashscreens remained as they were...
But when i flash the same faria rom without rebuilding it in the corePRO it replaces the splashimages, and boots very fine...
Any idea, why this happens?
Is the corePRO broken? or can you tell me which kitchen you prefer?
Some more and more detailed tutorials on corePRO might also be good... Didn't search the forums yet, will do after sending this post. Only recognized that the corePRO-author's website is not available... (he wrote there should be more tuts...)
greetings
garfield
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Hello friends,
Im a new PPC user. I have a T-mobile Wizard. There are a lot of freeware available for the Wizard. Since there are too many pages to read and a lot of freeware to compare, I need some help from Wizard users who had their Wizard for a while now. There are only a couple of things I need from the Wizard.... Outlook Email, Internet, and a good Iphone Theme. Does it makes sense to upgrade to the WM6? What are the benefits of WM6? Other than that I just need my Wizard to be really quick.
Thank you friends in advance and I really hope you can help a new windows mobile user.
cabayboy831 said:
Hello friends,
Im a new PPC user. I have a T-mobile Wizard. There are a lot of freeware available for the Wizard. Since there are too many pages to read and a lot of freeware to compare, I need some help from Wizard users who had their Wizard for a while now. There are only a couple of things I need from the Wizard.... Outlook Email, Internet, and a good Iphone Theme. Does it makes sense to upgrade to the WM6? What are the benefits of WM6? Other than that I just need my Wizard to be really quick.
Thank you friends in advance and I really hope you can help a new windows mobile user.
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Well, you will need to spend some time reading if you want to glean anything from this site.
Anyhow, I would recommend upgrading to WM6. A few reasons being is it has HTML capable Outlook (since you mentioned you'd be using that). It's also less buggy, faster and just more stable than WM5 too.
So, you can leave it as-is, and have a perfectly usable device. Or plan on spending a lot of time reading, reading, and reading some more to upgrade and customize. I'd say it's quite worth it though.
Start in the WIKI. It has links to everything that will get your phone unlocked and upgraded.
Just please keep in mind that this site appreciates those that help themselves first. If you do get stuck on something and can't find the answer, don't hesitate to ask.
Good luck!
Maybe more time reading and less time on the '!' key would help.
I'm going to disagree with TaurusBullba on WM6 stability and speed. I tried a number of WM6 ROMs on my G4 Wizard and found them to have a more issues than my original O2 ROM. That's not to say the O2 ROM didn't have issues, but I found most WM6 ROMs to have more / more serious issues. My advice would be to look at a thread for a ROM you might like to install. You will almost certainly find users stating any issues they're having.
Furthermore, on the ROM front, it requires a lot more reading and a lot less '!' , so I would sit back and be content with WM5 for the moment whilst reading the forum.
You will find the most comprehensive iPhone threads in the General board of this forum, although I believe there is a thread in one of the Wizard boards too.
If you don't mind paying, I've found Opera is a good replacement to Pocket IE.
PaulMdx said:
Maybe more time reading and less time on the '!' key would help.
I'm going to disagree with TaurusBullba on WM6 stability and speed. I tried a number of WM6 ROMs on my G4 Wizard and found them to have a more issues than my original O2 ROM. That's not to say the O2 ROM didn't have issues, but I found most WM6 ROMs to have more / more serious issues. My advice would be to look at a thread for a ROM you might like to install. You will almost certainly find users stating any issues they're having.
Furthermore, on the ROM front, it requires a lot more reading and a lot less '!' , so I would sit back and be content with WM5 for the moment whilst reading the forum.
You will find the most comprehensive iPhone threads in the General board of this forum, although I believe there is a thread in one of the Wizard boards too.
If you don't mind paying, I've found Opera is a good replacement to Pocket IE.
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Thank you for the information. Im actually very familiar with opera. I had it installed on my blackberry and is so much faster. I think I'll Stick with WM5 since everywhere I read they mention that it has a lot more bugs I think I'll wait untill I get more familiar with my wizard and also when the fix the bugs on the WM6. Thank you guys for the replys.
Ok, I have my Wing and im running touch it... its cool but this device is still slow... i have it over clocked and pagepooled... my brother has 8125 and its so much faster and i started to think that it was something wrong with my phone... Is anyone else having this problem? imean i touch the screen and it does not respond in realtime it sometimes takes up to 3 or 4 seconds... when writing messages it takes forever its just got to the point where it is very irritating... is there anything i can do to get my wing up to par where it wont seem sooooo slow?
Im not sure. Im overclocked and have pagepool at 6 and mine runs pretty quick.
Sounds like you may be overclocking it a little too far. Try lowering the OC and see if that helps.
Try installing a new Rom.
My T-mobile Wing used to be EXTREMELY slow with the stock T-mobile Rom on there ... it would always freeze and give me that little round hourglass thing all the time for the dumbest crap ... like checking new SMS msgs...but the moment I installed the PDAVIET v14 rom on there, the difference in speed was instantaneous. Afterwards, I installed batterystatus and overclocked it to 273mhz, and it runs like a charm. Installing the PDAVIET rom was the best thing I ever did, and I don't know how I survived this long without it!
^^^ thanks... how did you ever get v14 to install? i thought there were problems getting it onto the wingand it was missing programs...
My friend helped me do it, so unfortunately I don't have the exact process. From my understanding, you have to get past the CID check in order to install it since it's not an official tmobile rom.
Yeah mine is kinda slow too, do you really recomend installing that Touchflow thing (i dont know much about anything, just got my wing yesterday).
eltacho said:
Yeah mine is kinda slow too, do you really recomend installing that Touchflow thing (i dont know much about anything, just got my wing yesterday).
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TouchFlo is just a specific application that's originates from the HTC Touch device... but people have ported it over into Rom's built for most htc devices.
Here is a demo of the touchflo, so you can see what it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ8TQ9Rr_7E
The touchflo cube itself is pointless to me ... it's just something that came out to make it 'prettier' and IMO it's just a gimic aimed towards the iPhone. I DO like that you can scroll now without the use of the scrollbars... and I wouldn't be able to live without that now that I have it.
I DO reccommend installing a 3rd party Rom on your phone, and you currently have the option of 2 roms.
There are other roms out there, but you want to make sure you install one that is specifically made for the wing, bc if you don't you're going to run into problems such as, the keys on the keyboard not lining up. The Tmobile wing is the HTC "atlas" which is a variant of the HTC Herald. The keyboard on the Wing (atlas) is different than the one of the herald, so when you start using certain keys/symbols, you get something else.
There are currently 2 3rd party Roms that are made specifically for the Wing , and they are
Touch-IT
and
PDAVIET
I am currently running the PDAVIET v14 rom and you will be surprised as to how much faster your wing will run just by installing a NON tmobile rom.... on top of that, you can overclock your wing with a program called batterystatus which will overclock the processor from the default 201 to whatever you want. Suggestion, Dont' overlock to more than 273-286 or so, bc your wing will crash.... but you can find some posts on this site where users discuss their clocking speeds.
Go here and follow the instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1540938&postcount=133
The Touch-IT rom final just got released today, and is available for download here.
Touch-IT for The Wing Full and Lite Ed.
I am actually in the middle of installing this Rom as I am typing, but I have heard really good things about it ... so I am anxious to try it out.
I suggest you take a look at Tyler's guide to Wing Modding.
Newbies Guide to Herald
and also take a look at the Herald WIKI page which may help answer a lot of questions you may have.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Herald
If you have any other questions, you know you can count on everyone here to help you out. I personally won't mind helping you out with any questions you may have.
Wow thanx a lot, really helped me out a lot.
Not a lot of people will go all out like that to a newbie, so i really appreciate it .
Not a prob bro. Let us know if there's anything else we can help you with. That's the beauty of this place ... everyone helps each other... and I enjoy helping out, bc people help me out when I need it.
duprade said:
TouchFlo is just a specific application that's originates from the HTC Touch device... but people have ported it over into Rom's built for most htc devices.
Here is a demo of the touchflo, so you can see what it is.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ8TQ9Rr_7E
The touchflo cube itself is pointless to me ... it's just something that came out to make it 'prettier' and IMO it's just a gimic aimed towards the iPhone. I DO like that you can scroll now without the use of the scrollbars... and I wouldn't be able to live without that now that I have it.
I DO reccommend installing a 3rd party Rom on your phone, and you currently have the option of 2 roms.
There are other roms out there, but you want to make sure you install one that is specifically made for the wing, bc if you don't you're going to run into problems such as, the keys on the keyboard not lining up. The Tmobile wing is the HTC "atlas" which is a variant of the HTC Herald. The keyboard on the Wing (atlas) is different than the one of the herald, so when you start using certain keys/symbols, you get something else.
There are currently 2 3rd party Roms that are made specifically for the Wing , and they are
Touch-IT
and
PDAVIET
I am currently running the PDAVIET v14 rom and you will be surprised as to how much faster your wing will run just by installing a NON tmobile rom.... on top of that, you can overclock your wing with a program called batterystatus which will overclock the processor from the default 201 to whatever you want. Suggestion, Dont' overlock to more than 273-286 or so, bc your wing will crash.... but you can find some posts on this site where users discuss their clocking speeds.
Go here and follow the instructions
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1540938&postcount=133
The Touch-IT rom final just got released today, and is available for download here.
Touch-IT for The Wing Full and Lite Ed.
I am actually in the middle of installing this Rom as I am typing, but I have heard really good things about it ... so I am anxious to try it out.
I suggest you take a look at Tyler's guide to Wing Modding.
Newbies Guide to Herald
and also take a look at the Herald WIKI page which may help answer a lot of questions you may have.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Herald
If you have any other questions, you know you can count on everyone here to help you out. I personally won't mind helping you out with any questions you may have.
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Hey Duprade,
Since I ran into a lot of problems bricking/unbricking the last time that I installed a new rom, I don't want to rush through it this time. I am kind of in the middle of the two roms that you said earlier, the touch_it and the pdaviet 14. Could you update us with your experience with both and which one you recommend personally. i am kind of leaning towards the pdaviet since i don't want some programs that come with the touch_it but i would like to hear someone more experiences comments comparing them as well. thanks in advance.... by the way my device is locked does that mean that i can not install the pdaviet v14 i thought the issue was resolved?
Totaly Lost Man! Help!!!!
I am currently running the PDAVIET rom. I was experimenting with the Touch-IT rom, but I am used to the PDAVIET rom and since I use my phone for work and all my work correspondence comes directly to my phone, I have to have it in working order at all times.
I would reccommend that you install both ROMs and test them both out to see which one you like best, because until you try them, you won't know which one YOU will like best.
If you follow the link I posted for the PDAVIIET rom, just follow the directions for the installation that I posted.
The Touch-IT rom installs using the ASERG method, which you can find the directions on installing it when you download the necessary files.
Okay, without flashing a new rom, and having to reinstall all my programs (speaking of that, Sprite backup didn't work for me, different story-comments?)
Is there any way to speed it up? Disable startup processes?
I've had to reset mine about 2-5 times in 48 hours...P I E C E O F C R A P...(not really a POS, just pissing me off)
hkbladelawhk said:
Okay, without flashing a new rom, and having to reinstall all my programs (speaking of that, Sprite backup didn't work for me, different story-comments?)
there has always been probelms with this program, a shame cuz I heard they implemented a new feature allowing you to restore even after switching roms
Is there any way to speed it up? Disable startup processes?
for sure, just navigate to \windows\startup...a simple search of what is in that folder will let you know what you use and what you can delete.
I've had to reset mine about 2-5 times in 48 hours...P I E C E O F C R A P...(not really a POS, just pissing me off)
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A new favourite tool of mine since having the herald is sktools. I never really used it before but there is an application associated with sktools that allows you to imitate hibernation of the device which will bring your program memory to just below what it was after boot up.
hope that helps....maybe one day i'll even make a vanilla rom (hopefully someone will make one quiker) so that these problems with it becoming slow disappear.
cheers
Now the recent problem I've been having is that when the device slows down, and freezes up, it unfreezes and theres a part of the screen that seems to be "stuck" in every app I use, until I restart...WtF?
EDIT: Oh, and SKTools looks good, but I'm not paying for programs. I'm broke just from buying the Herald
Ok...so i have done quite a bit of reading on this forum for the past couple months. I purchased a Wing from tmobile and absolutly love it. I have since then changed to the touchflo rom and installed the battstatus and it runs like a champ, couldnt ask for more.
hey i'm new to this stuff and i tried installing a new rom but my phone is now bricked i believe, anyway to unbrick it?
That's why you are a real gem of this place. I see you always answer people's questions (many answers could be found by a simple search) promptly and patiently, including mine.
I'm waiting to get a good deal on a 4gb+ memory card, then I will try to install the PDAVIET rom, looks thrilling to me.
Thanks bro!! If you are in the same city as mine (Milwaukee), I'd buy you drinks.
duprade said:
Not a prob bro. Let us know if there's anything else we can help you with. That's the beauty of this place ... everyone helps each other... and I enjoy helping out, bc people help me out when I need it.
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Thank you for the comments.
Regarding your Rom, I'd actually suggest trying out ITJE's TouchIT 2.3 over the PDAVIET Rom at this time.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340403
ok boys, now I see many release of wm6 wm6.1
and I don't know which is the best, faster, stable of these releases
can someone tell some more for help every other people that think same as me?
I try xplode wm6 and wm6.1 and think wm6 works better
but which are the difference between these version?
*sigh* ... this question is asked so many times ...
razorjack81 said:
ok boys, now I see many release of wm6 wm6.1
and I don't know which is the best, faster, stable of these releases
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Answer: (although you may hate this)
Each ROM has it's own benefits and drawbacks. Other than a categoric failure in a ROM due to some incompatibility with your device (there are many BA hardware versions and edited/shonky/hacked/dodgy drivers) they are all good.
If you (need to) use some "creative" backup/restore methods to keep your precious data, or install everything under the sun, or use dodgy pirated software, or whatever ... you can (and will) break EVERYTHING in the ROM very easily and criticize the ROM chef for "making a crappy ROM", when all along it is (and always will be) YOUR fault.
Best? Can't say ... Personally, I like Xplode's work, since it's always based on a 'purist' approach - using validated elements from trusted and well known developers (mamaich, helmi, bepe, etc.). Other sources, I have no means of verifying, so I generally don't use them. Use what you know and trust ... but keep your eyes open for alternatives.
Fastest? Pick the one which optimizes everything. Test, and see which apps/games/etc. you use and which works best. For example, you can switch the default video driver - that'll give you more speed ... but don't expect full application compatibility.
Most Stable? If you look back in the forums I spent a LOT of time optimizing the older WM5, since it just didn't run as well or as fast as WM2003 on the BA. Eventually we managed to get very close to the performance - but at the expense of stability. Today ... I prefer stability over speed by a HUGE margin.
razorjack81 said:
can someone tell some more for help every other people that think same as me?
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That's the root of the problem. Nobody thinks the same as you ... or as me for that matter.
Everyone would like to create their own customized ROM which does exactly what they want. Hence ... why we have so many chefs!
To answer your question though - and I'm not being 'snarky' here ... just pick one and try it, use it, and customize it. Almost everything which the ROM chefs put into the ROMs they create can be overridden by installing a CAB file and/or modifying the registry to suit your needs. Having an 'out of the box' perfect ROM is realizable only for the chef who created it for themselves.
Personally: The base ROM I use daily is Xplode's WM6.0 ... but, I've updated my second BA to the latest Xplode WM6.1. I'm now testing the new version for stability/etc., and have configured it as I wish, and when I'm happy it does everything I want, I'll move my main phone over to the new OS.
razorjack81 said:
I try xplode wm6 and wm6.1 and think wm6 works better
but which are the difference between these version?
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Xplode's latest WM6.1 ROM is targeted for a 'general' audience, and is kept quite clean - as was the WM6.0 version. Read the very well commented descriptions of what's in each ROM and decide on those specifications. For WM6.1, add in the CABs you want from HIS preferred EXTROM architecture ... add in all the other "bling" and "dancing monkeys" you want ... make your device look like "launcher button, and weather central hell" if you have to. *blurgh*spew*
In my opinion ... start with the "basic car" and "pimp it out" to your desires.
As for WM6.0 vs. WM6.1 - search and read the forums; there are many changes - some good, some bad. If you need WM6.1 features, then you've made your choice. If you don't - choose based on other criteria.
You're the one who has to decide if you want the "Pimped Out", the "Turbo-charged", or the "Slow but Stable" version.
I (and others in the know) can't be of more help than this. Everything else is opinion.
Tuatara said:
*sigh* ... this question is asked so many times ...
Answer: (although you may hate this)
Each ROM has it's own benefits and drawbacks. Other than a categoric failure in a ROM due to some incompatibility with your device (there are many BA hardware versions and edited/shonky/hacked/dodgy drivers) they are all good.
If you (need to) use some "creative" backup/restore methods to keep your precious data, or install everything under the sun, or use dodgy pirated software, or whatever ... you can (and will) break EVERYTHING in the ROM very easily and criticize the ROM chef for "making a crappy ROM", when all along it is (and always will be) YOUR fault.
Best? Can't say ... Personally, I like Xplode's work, since it's always based on a 'purist' approach - using validated elements from trusted and well known developers (mamaich, helmi, bepe, etc.). Other sources, I have no means of verifying, so I generally don't use them. Use what you know and trust ... but keep your eyes open for alternatives.
Fastest? Pick the one which optimizes everything. Test, and see which apps/games/etc. you use and which works best. For example, you can switch the default video driver - that'll give you more speed ... but don't expect full application compatibility.
Most Stable? If you look back in the forums I spent a LOT of time optimizing the older WM5, since it just didn't run as well or as fast as WM2003 on the BA. Eventually we managed to get very close to the performance - but at the expense of stability. Today ... I prefer stability over speed by a HUGE margin.
That's the root of the problem. Nobody thinks the same as you ... or as me for that matter.
Everyone would like to create their own customized ROM which does exactly what they want. Hence ... why we have so many chefs!
To answer your question though - and I'm not being 'snarky' here ... just pick one and try it, use it, and customize it. Almost everything which the ROM chefs put into the ROMs they create can be overridden by installing a CAB file and/or modifying the registry to suit your needs. Having an 'out of the box' perfect ROM is realizable only for the chef who created it for themselves.
Personally: The base ROM I use daily is Xplode's WM6.0 ... but, I've updated my second BA to the latest Xplode WM6.1. I'm now testing the new version for stability/etc., and have configured it as I wish, and when I'm happy it does everything I want, I'll move my main phone over to the new OS.
Xplode's latest WM6.1 ROM is targeted for a 'general' audience, and is kept quite clean - as was the WM6.0 version. Read the very well commented descriptions of what's in each ROM and decide on those specifications. For WM6.1, add in the CABs you want from HIS preferred EXTROM architecture ... add in all the other "bling" and "dancing monkeys" you want ... make your device look like "launcher button, and weather central hell" if you have to. *blurgh*spew*
In my opinion ... start with the "basic car" and "pimp it out" to your desires.
As for WM6.0 vs. WM6.1 - search and read the forums; there are many changes - some good, some bad. If you need WM6.1 features, then you've made your choice. If you don't - choose based on other criteria.
You're the one who has to decide if you want the "Pimped Out", the "Turbo-charged", or the "Slow but Stable" version.
I (and others in the know) can't be of more help than this. Everything else is opinion.
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I missed Tuatara's phylosophical-almost-devine-enlightening answers
Just in case you are a little lazy to achieve Nirvana by reading this great post, I will keep it simple for you:
Trial and Error....
enough said
This link has a good discussion about roms though, check it out
http://flickr.com/photos/boyshapedbox/2282655473/in/set-72157603957925616/
id first like to start out by introduciing myself....im ben and im pretty sure your going to be seeing me post alot of threads/replies on this site....i should be expecting my wing in tomorrow or the next day and i was curious as to what you guys think should be my way of rom/theme....i seen the must know newb guide but i seen that its a little old....didnt know if i should just follow those instructions to flash my rom or maybe someone has a little better advice? any help would be much appreciated....just to let you know i just upgraded from a horrible horrible sidekick lx.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387345
I just posted an answer to basically the same question in the above forum. You have to read, read, and then when you think you got it read some more. I read the directions and the forums about the ROMs for about 8 months before I hard-SPL'd and flashed my phone.
I'm not trying to be a hard ass but the posts like this and the twenty like it make it even harder to find your answers.
It will come, just have patience and remember.... there is always a chance you will end up with an expensive paperweight.
pseudoproto said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=387345
I just posted an answer to basically the same question in the above forum. You have to read, read, and then when you think you got it read some more. I read the directions and the forums about the ROMs for about 8 months before I hard-SPL'd and flashed my phone.
I'm not trying to be a hard ass but the posts like this and the twenty like it make it even harder to find your answers.
It will come, just have patience and remember.... there is always a chance you will end up with an expensive paperweight.
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was it worth flashing the phone as far as that goes? as ive been doing more and more researching it seems to me this phone gets slower and slower...i had that problem with my sidekick and i kind of want to steer clear of that....
It was to some extent, I can use the camera without soft resetting every time.
You'll find that out quickly.
The more you have running the slower it responds, just like your desktop.
You just gotta find what works for you. I got a 4gig microSD (rumor is it will handle an 8gig) I have a lot of music on my phone. I can listen and play a game or check mail or surf at the same time without low memory warnings.
the stock has too much going and it never really closes out.
The custom ROMs usually have reg. tweaks to improve performance and make it all just run so much smoother.
another new Wing user here
Do I have to Hard SPL the wing before flashing different ROM?
I checked SPL in bootloader, and it's above 4.0
From what I read, it doesn't seem like hard SPL is required. The uspl process should work just as well
I also wonder if I should unlock my SIM first before flashing, or it doesn't matter
animefans said:
another new Wing user here
Do I have to Hard SPL the wing before flashing different ROM?
I checked SPL in bootloader, and it's above 4.0
From what I read, it doesn't seem like hard SPL is required. The uspl process should work just as well
I also wonder if I should unlock my SIM first before flashing, or it doesn't matter
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Hard SPL will give you more options. Most ROMs require hard SPL.
The USPL is only used at the cooks discretion. There are only a few that make ROMs with that option.
For the ones that do, you end up with the same thing using either method.
SIM doesn't really matter.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=358225
Follow this thread to Hard SPL your phone. A wiser man than I wrote this.
yo i had my wing for about a week, i went straight flash to open touch 4 within 5 minutes of owning it... i didnt do the hardspl.. so you dont need it..
I think for a newb, your gonna have a lot of questions and be confused about the roms.. I know i still have that doubt in my head "what if i try that one, or this one, which one is the best? wow that looks dope should i do it?" Im still playing with the phone, realizing alot of stuff on it i probably wont use..
but im curious if id benefit besides unlocking the phone.. Its kinda cool to have that title that your phone is unlocked.. but i just signed a 2 year contract so i doubt id be pulling the sim out unless im in one of those rare times when a friends phone dies and he wants to use mine lol
I agree with pseudoproto; try not to post if it is not constructive or a serious problem, which you did not manage to solve after extensive searching and reading. This is nothing personal, but just to prevent the forums from clogging up or (eventually) moderators killing your post.
There are about a dozen ROM's which have been released the past two weeks and tons of ROM's in the previous weeks. You may ask if flashing your device with a cooked ROM is the best thing to do, but this entirely depends on your personal flavour.
I suggest you wait till you have received your Wing. Try using it on it's stock ROM for a week en then decide it you would like to have the risk ending up with a expensive paperweight.
When you decide to use a cooked ROM make a selection of the ROM's which seem to be interesting. One of the most experienced cooks in this forum is ITje.
Make sure you have read all the forum posts about the selected ROM and its predecessors.
As a Touch-It adept I know for certain you will need to Hard-SPL your device before you flash the Touch-IT versions 6 and 7. Because these two ROM's are based on the P4350 edition you might have some small conversion problems.....but again read all the posts and you will know for sure.
I recommend using the Touch-IT V7.1 Public Beta, although it needs some more fine-tuning which is already in progress; this because of the extensive knowledge base in the posts and its predecessors.
Each problem you will find has been found before, each bump you wil hit has been hit before so you will not be forced to reinvent the wheel all over again. Search and read and about 99.9% of your problems will besolved.
Good luck!
pseudoproto:
how do I know if a cooked ROM require Hard SPL?
I have to admit, I only looked at Open Touch 3 and 4 thread, so I assume all cooked ROM can do either uspl or hard SPL
Guess I just learn something new
hypertek:
Thanks for the feedback. I guess it makes me feel a bit better now knowing what you did.
One reason I look at Open Touch is that it seems to be the most "compatible" with Wing
Once I learn more about cook ROM/etc, I might try others
While TMobile stock is "good enough", there's a few thing that I see "missing"
- No Profile (think HTC home has basic profiling option)
- No "easy" way to get to comm manager without using stylus (ie easily turn on/off wifi/BT)
- memory hog, both storage and program. Think any cook ROM will fix this
Of course, there's the "fun" factor tweaking your new gadget
Think I will head over to Open Touch Discussion thread and start asking questions
animefans said:
pseudoproto:
how do I know if a cooked ROM require Hard SPL?
I have to admit, I only looked at Open Touch 3 and 4 thread, so I assume all cooked ROM can do either uspl or hard SPL
Guess I just learn something new
hypertek:
Thanks for the feedback. I guess it makes me feel a bit better now knowing what you did.
One reason I look at Open Touch is that it seems to be the most "compatible" with Wing
Once I learn more about cook ROM/etc, I might try others
...........
Think I will head over to Open Touch Discussion thread and start asking questions
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To be perfectly honest I tried the Open Touch first because I didn't have to Hard-SPL. I read through the thread before just to get the answers your looking for now. The reason I decided to Hard-SPL is the options...Most ROM threads will tell you within the first three posts if they need Hard-SPL or not.
Some seem to flash a little differently anyway, For instance, The Open Touch 4.1 micro flashes off the microSD card but the other flavors flash with AS4.5 and you can do it with Hard-SPL or USPL. Other ROMs are ONLY Hard-SPL.
ITje, Aserg, ivanmmj, and TTran all make very nice ROMS and all have their merits. jappo01 likes Touch-it (nice ROM) but I went back to Open Touch. I bet we could argue ROMs all night.
If you do go to the Open Touch discussion READ, so many questions have already been asked most of yours might be already answered.
Of course, there's the "fun" factor tweaking your new gadget
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You just summed up why XDA even exists!
You are looking at another Open Touch 3.0 biggy user here
It is really simple (at least for Open Touch 3.0 biggy) to flash
- get the flasher
- get the rom rar file
- unrar the rom file into the right place
- launch flasher
- press some buttons when asked to do so
- done
Only used it for less than 10 hrs, but it seems like this drain battery more than stock TMo ROM
Opera 4 mini on stock TMo ROM is decent
Opera 4 mini on Open Touch is fast!
I also get one thing I missed: hard button for vibrate! It comes in handy when i need to silent my phone during meeting
Time for Open Touch 3.0 reading
well i just got in my wing today....i was very impressed at first until i started trying to browse the web....m.youtube.com got me my first memory critically low warning....it sucks and im wondering if theres anything i could do temporarily to stop from getting that while im at work til i get home?
animefans said:
You are looking at another Open Touch 3.0 biggy user here
It is really simple (at least for Open Touch 3.0 biggy) to flash
- get the flasher
- get the rom rar file
- unrar the rom file into the right place
- launch flasher
- press some buttons when asked to do so
- done
Only used it for less than 10 hrs, but it seems like this drain battery more than stock TMo ROM
Opera 4 mini on stock TMo ROM is decent
Opera 4 mini on Open Touch is fast!
I also get one thing I missed: hard button for vibrate! It comes in handy when i need to silent my phone during meeting
Time for Open Touch 3.0 reading
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I'll say it again...
Read the forums. Search the forums. Then read some more.​Read like you're back in school. I've had my wing for 6 months and I haven't flashed or even considered a hard spl. I have 24mb of program ram on the stock rom. I did it by reading, trying, and doing a few hard resets... I'll probably cook my own rom before I flash. There's a ton of information out there, and it's WAY too much to keep typing over and over again. That's why God created Google! Besides, it's much more fun if you customize your phone my yourself.
Hi There!
I am trying to decipher the massive amount of information about all the ROMS available, but I am confused.
I know I need to update my Radio, and I'll likely just grab the latest and see how it does. I know I need HSPL so I'll grab that and do that first.
There are SOOO many ROMS around, but I am struggling to correlate which OS versions are 6.5.5 (I presume this is the most preferable one) over 6.5.3 which is what I think is what ships with the device? Some ROMs say 6.5.x which I am not sure how to interpret?
Are there some newbie guidelines to particular modders being known for certain things? I don't care about twitter, facebook, or any other social networking crap, but I do want excellent call quality, blisteringly fast, and a good web browser.. I like things that make the phone more usable, such as the 4 column start menu, more accessible unlock screens etc (would be nice if the unlock part was middle of the screen), 1% battery life etc customizations.. I dislike the clock adjusting every time I unlock the phone and I know I can fix that with a cab, but are some roms shipping with these fixes?
Sorry I know some of these questions may have been answered in the other posts but there are so many and it's hard to correlate. I did read the FAQ.
With my thanks for any information anyone is prepared to supply...
Big on my list is anything that makes the keyboard faster to input text for and I prefer horizontal qwerty over the default portrait which I can't seem to input quickly for.
Anyone able to personally recommend something that meets some or all of these needs?
WinMo 6.5 ships with the HD2 from factory, WinMo 6.5.x is the latest release of WinMo which is on the HTC HD Mini. It has the start button at the bottom and large buttons for the 2 softkeys (which personally I think look terrible).
6.5.x is usually put as it's either or - don't worry about it.
Best thing is to just try some ROMs (if you're sure the stock ROM doesn't do what you want it to do). All the features you've said you want aren't in the original shipped ROMs hence why they are only in shipped ROMs (although you can just CAB a stock ROM to do most of what you asked).
If you want a FAST ROM then I'd say have a look at the one in my signature - CleanEx. It's pretty much stock but has performance tweaks you've mentioned and most of the 'crapware' removed from it so you have tonnes of memory left to install your own apps.
Welcome to the forum and make sure you understand what you're doing (and what to do should it go wrong) before you take the dive into cooked ROMs
Anyone else have any other ROMS to recommend or any other comments to make?
Hi Networkn,
Am afraid no one is going to recommend a rom for several reasons:
1) At the end of the day the rom that works best is the one that suits the initial criteria you set out or which comes closest to that criteria, i.e its a personal choice
2) We have clamped down on "Best ROM" threads like this one because of all the firestorms that they have raised on here and point 1 above.
My advice to you is to sit down with a simple spreadsheet, list what you are looking for in a rom then visit each rom on here in turn (you probably only have to read the first 2 posts of each) and map out what they offer on your sheet.
From that decide what comes closest, read that thread thoroughly, understand what you are doing and go for it.
Hope this helps a little. PM me if you need more help and I will see what I can do.
For now this is being closed.
ATB
WB