I am buying an unlocked softbank X01HT on june 21st.
My question: Is there a hardware difference between these 2?
I am assuming it's just branding difference but essentialy the same unit?
BTW this forum rocks, it had a major influence in my decision to purchase a smartphone. I am hooked!
I would say VERIFY the device is truely unlocked before buying it, the softbank is notorious for being difficult to unlock. If I was to be recommending between the two...go for the TyTN since it is fully unlockable really easily.
The two devices are identical but softbank has loaded a different bootloader onto the ext_rom...if it is turned on and allowed to configure itself then you are stuck with an unlockable device (that we know of).
Softbank X01HT
Thanks for your prompt reply.
The guy I am buying from garantees it's unlocked to work on any GSM provider. I plan to use it on FIDO, I am in montreal, canada.
I want to put a WM6 rom on it as soon as I get it.
BTW yourwebsite rocks too, I like the tutorials for flashing ROMs, very cool.
I forgot:
For some reason, any HTC TYTN I have found so far are far more expensive than the softbank, that's why I was wondering if there was a hardware difference. Thanks for answering that question.
Now I am puzzled because if I am stuck with the softbank ROM, it's not exactly the best out there from what I hear.
Obviously you got a ISP unlocked phone.
Thats what the guy promised.
What you didnt get is the CID unlocked and X01HT is not easily unlocked if it is turned on and allowed to configure itself. May be the guy whom you bought did that.....and we will never know until you get the phone.
olivierdamiron said:
For some reason, any HTC TYTN I have found so far are far more expensive than the softbank, that's why I was wondering if there was a hardware difference. Thanks for answering that question.
Now I am puzzled because if I am stuck with the softbank ROM, it's not exactly the best out there from what I hear.
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CID unlocked
Well, I haven't bought it yet, I was planning to pick it up in Toronto in june 21st but this CID business might change all that!
I'll find out before I get it. Thanks for the heads up SL.
olivierdamiron said:
For some reason, any HTC TYTN I have found so far are far more expensive than the softbank, that's why I was wondering if there was a hardware difference. Thanks for answering that question.
Now I am puzzled because if I am stuck with the softbank ROM, it's not exactly the best out there from what I hear.
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Because the TyTN is fully unbranded by any carrier (Its a HTC branded one) and also comes as standard SIM unlocked, which the rest dont from the carriers.
ALL of them are CID locked its just the softbank is VERY difficult to CID unlock...infact the only way to CID unlock one at the moment is to NEVER turn the device on then read through the thread on it first. It is very unlikely that this guy has CID unlocked it.
But Its not a problem really since once HardSPL is on the device it reports it as SuperCID anyway
I have HTC Softbank X01HT. GSM unlocked, works fine.
I have some other issues on that (overwritten MAC address, 3G problems) which i'm working on to fix, but otherwise works fine with me.
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Thanks for your input pop20032004, I just emailed the store I plan to get it from to see if it's CID locked or not, awaiting their response.
They have even offered to ship it with WM6 pre-installed but I prefer to tweak it myself so I get the apps that I want and not the original WM garbage apps.
What ROM are you using?
Oops
Disregard my question about the ROM !
CID business...
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Because the TyTN is fully unbranded by any carrier (Its a HTC branded one) and also comes as standard SIM unlocked, which the rest dont from the carriers.
ALL of them are CID locked its just the softbank is VERY difficult to CID unlock...infact the only way to CID unlock one at the moment is to NEVER turn the device on then read through the thread on it first. It is very unlikely that this guy has CID unlocked it.
But Its not a problem really since once HardSPL is on the device it reports it as SuperCID anyway
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Thanks for the advice, I will make sure to resist the temptation of powering it up when I get it. One last thing, which thread are you refering to?
Or what should I search for?
Cheers
Hi olivierdamiron, No problem... I tried WM Black, wm6 premium, and other one (i dont remember now). I liked the stability of wm6.premium.v2 with X01HT. I also did Radio upgrade & bootloader upgrade to 2.10.Olipro (HardSPL v7). I'm really enjoying this device...
CID question
Well, just got a response from the rep, he quotes:
"Yes, it is CID unlocked. We have WM6 and can load it for you at no charge if you prefer. Just request it in the special instructions section during checkout."
So that's it then, thanks ALL for the advice.
I'm looking for the same phone you are buying. Could you post the link to the company you are getting yours from? Is there a warranty on the unit you are getting? Thanks in advance for your help
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I found it on Ebay, the guy says he has a store too. I am now waiting on warranty information and also further confirmation that it truly is CID unlocked
I will post the info as soon as I have it, still debating if I should go for it at this point with all the horror stories I hear about CID unlocking the X01HT.
The seller claims it's a Softbank X01HT with the TYTN ROM in it, this automaticaly makes it a bit fishy. It means it was modified at some point, certainly not by Softbank, they are notorious for their simlock feature if you go through the forums, and it also means it was repackaged. If they just unlock them and repackage them right away, I suppose it's fine.
Anyway, I will post more info as soon as I hear back from the seller.
olivierdamiron said:
I found it on Ebay, the guy says he has a store too. I am now waiting on warranty information and also further confirmation that it truly is CID unlocked
I will post the info as soon as I have it, still debating if I should go for it at this point with all the horror stories I hear about CID unlocking the X01HT.
The seller claims it's a Softbank X01HT with the TYTN ROM in it, this automaticaly makes it a bit fishy. It means it was modified at some point, certainly not by Softbank, they are notorious for their simlock feature if you go through the forums, and it also means it was repackaged. If they just unlock them and repackage them right away, I suppose it's fine.
Anyway, I will post more info as soon as I hear back from the seller.
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Check out this guy here on eBay. He gives a two year warranty and used a supercid program that he says works the same as if the cid was unlocked. He doesn't care what rom you run, so that won't void the warranty. Price is the only issue. He's about $500US for an X01HT shipped within the US.
See if this works for ya ...
X01HT with TYTN ROM
Yes, a bit pricy but might be worth looking at.
I imagine these guys buy them bulk in ASIA, they are softbank then he flashes them and repackages them. At 400 bucks I would go for it but 500 US is a bit steep.
These type keep poping up on Ebay all the time, I am sure a better deal will come up soon, I check everyday.
Thanks for the link.
Cheers
On order, Softbank X01HT Black w/WM6
Well I have made the jump and sent my payment for a Softbank X01HT Black with WM6 preloaded.
I picked it up from here : http://www.networkingrus.com/SoftBank_Phones-SoftBank_X01HT_Pocket_PC_Phone_Unlocked.html
According to networkingrus, it is fully CID unlocked.
I will keep you guys posted as soon as my phone arrives to share this experience.
He also has other HTC phones like the new Touch and stuff, very cool online shop.
they are going like hot cakes!
In10se: In the end, your Ebay link was the best deal out there for sure. There are cheaper ones but the sellers don't look too reliable.
This guy has an excellent EBay rating and I see you ordered one there too!
Cool stuff. Share your experience here, I will be posting details here as well.
Cheers
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Softbank Xt01 which one beter black or white?do hear some shop said softbank quality is not so good is that true?he ask me to take dopod or htc. just going to buy it, please advice and give some comment what i need to check and precausion during set sellection.
If i buy,what the recomended rom,radio ver.. what else? sorry new babe don't know much.
thanks in advance..
ericcyc8 said:
Softbank Xt01 which one beter black or white?do hear some shop said softbank quality is not so good is that true?he ask me to take dopod or htc. just going to buy it, please advice and give some comment what i need to check and precausion during set sellection.
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I can't comment on the quality of the Softbank because I've never seen one, but I'd advise going for the HTC or Dopod. The reason for this is that the Softbanks seem more difficult to SIM or CID unlock and more difficult to upgrade the radio.
Have a browse through these forums and you'll find loads of threads from people who can't upgrade their softbank.
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I can't comment on the quality of the Softbank because I've never seen one, but I'd advise going for the HTC or Dopod. The reason for this is that the Softbanks seem more difficult to SIM or CID unlock and more difficult to upgrade the radio.
Have a browse through these forums and you'll find loads of threads from people who can't upgrade their softbank.
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hi Ach2, thanks.the softbank actually i japan ver. but i will buy at china and they have been upgrade to chinese wm6 , is it ok if future i want to upgrade to english ver? lsatly .. how to know that the phone is totaly unlocked.. and can use for any network when i bring back to malaysia.
No problem with either white or black, as long as you get a reliable person selling to you an unlock version. Check around to source for your phone! I have been changing my rom since I got it from orginal softbank to WM5 Chinese to WM6 rom. No problem encountered so far....
ach2 said:
I can't comment on the quality of the Softbank because I've never seen one, but I'd advise going for the HTC or Dopod. The reason for this is that the Softbanks seem more difficult to SIM or CID unlock and more difficult to upgrade the radio.
Have a browse through these forums and you'll find loads of threads from people who can't upgrade their softbank.
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I use Softbank almost 1 year, and I never got any problem at all including for unlocking. I do it myself with many guides from this forum (thx to xda-developers and all the member)
About the unlocking SIM and CID, since Olipro release HardSPL V7 and pof's Free HTC Hermes SIM & CID Unlocker *New* version v3a, I think the "painful" unlocking CID and SIM for Softbank became a history . Try to search Hermes guide to unlocking for that.
Please feel free to unlock w/o worry anymore
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I use Softbank almost 1 year, and I never got any problem at all including for unlocking. I do it myself with many guides from this forum (thx to xda-developers and all the member)
About the unlocking SIM and CID, since Olipro release HardSPL V7 and pof's Free HTC Hermes SIM & CID Unlocker *New* version v3a, I think the "painful" unlocking CID and SIM for Softbank became a history . Try to search Hermes guide to unlocking for that.
Please feel free to unlock w/o worry anymore
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how to know that is fully unlock or not?? please advice..thanks,
I just bought a softbank here in China too. I am just wondering how much you paid in RMB? I am an american so prices tend to be a bit high for me...
By they way, have had no problems, changed the OS and upgraded the radio.
I have been reading this forum for the last few days. And checking out what your guys are doing here. (I like it!) Now I have some question for some of the experts that will help me make the choice of selecting my new phone.
I have T-mobile USA an currently have a razr. Now I have been thinking of getting a ppc after reading some reviews and things like that I see the kiaser might be the best ppc availale.(This is what I get from reviews don't shoot me) at this time. But I'm not looking to spend that kind of money on a phone. Even though it is sim unlocked not cid unlocked according to reading here what the difference is.
1. Should I go with a T-mobile Wing or go for the HTC Herald? And what is the difference really between the two phones. One is branded the other is not. Or should I try for the next power house in line that would be an HTC Hermes (TYTN).
2 Now if I do that and choose one of the two unbranded phones. It's a possible chance that I will get one that doesn't have english Os (maybe buyng from ebay). And I would like to use the best Rom for that phone from here of course. I'm just thinking i don't want to brick the phone right away. So are there easy methods to cid unlocks on any of these 3 phones? I just listed so I won't have problems trying to flash to a new Rom. With branded or unbranded phone and english or non english Os? Really need help with this.
1. The herald is inevitably more expensive than the wing. if you like tmobile, i'd go with the wing. This is because its unlocked, no? Either way, eh. Anything unlocked will be more expensive.
2. Again, I wouldn't choose the unbranded unless you dont intend to use it with tmobile. Either way, you can call them and ask them to unlock it for you after a set amount of time. This sim-unlocks the phone. Now, for cid-unlocking, we have three choices- aserg's method, USPL, and Hard-SPL.
Aserg's was popular back in the heyday of Herald flashing. Nobody really uses it anymore
USPL writes a temporary SPL to the phone that allows it to be flashed.
Hard-CID replaces the phones SPL with a permanent one that can't be overwritten (i think).
IN conclusion, if you really want an unlocked phone, get a wing, wait 60 days, ask them for the unlock code, and unlock away. To flash a new rom, use USPL or Hard-CID. In the end, you end up with an unlocked phone with CID bypass capabilities.
If you had searched, you would have known that.
Ok let me be more specific here. I do appreciate the reply!
Now here is what I'm asking is the the unbranded Herald better than the T-mobile wing beside looks? (the wing is ugly looking compared to the herald) I will be using the phone on T-mobile service. I understand the price difference in the phone being locked or unlocked. And if so of going unbranded should I choose between Herald or Hermes? The unbranded phones would be sim unlocked not cid unlocked. As I understand and maybe have a different language firmware or Os other than english which I can't understand not bi-lingual. And the wing would be locked both ways but be in english already. If I was to cid unlock what is the most safest way to do so?
If your staying on Tmobile, get a wing. Theres no damn good reason not too. The difference between the two????? Color and I believe keyboard layout -- hence the idea of "rebranding." Same thing.
Get a Wing. Its prettier and unlocking it is a breeze.
People just love the deep, dark, almost pearlescent blue of my phone , as do I!
So there is no difference in the Herald or Wing. So what you are saying is leave the unbranded phones alone. Is the Hermes still a good phone to use unbranded on T-mobile service or just plain ol get the wing and call it a day and stop boggling my brain? I do appreciate the help guys Thanks.
try to find it here:
www.pdadb.net
and choose what you nee.....
IMO, I think that a PDA without a physical keyboard is almost pointless.
I know the basics of the phones. I was just asking for some hands on experience opinions. Best ppc hands down bang for the buck.
go for htc p4350..
my choice any day
Is there any particular reason you are saying go with the P4350? According to others as stated earlier they said go for the wing.
I'm partial to the Wing, but the Herald is just as good. I've seen the Wing selling on ebay for between 250.00 - 300.00 unlocked.
It's not about being lock or unlocked because what I plan on doing soon as I get the phone. I will flash it with a Rom from this site. So I'm looking to make sure I'm getting the best for the time being. Until I get an itch again for the upgrade bug. So here are my choices T-mobile wing, HTC Herald or HTC Hermes. And according to those here is that I would guess that the Wing being the most easiest to flash I assume???? But I'm looking for the best phone that I will be happy with a cool Rom from here with all the tweaks added.
This is to itje. Do you feel there are any huge differences between the p4350 and the wing? If you had any experience with both phone. Or are you saying this because you have a p4350?
Herald V/S Wing
Ok, let's make it very clear Herald and wing are the same exact thing, except one is unlocked and HTC branded while the other is made specifically for America and t-mobile branded. Now lets countdown the major differences good and bad.
The Wing-it's cheaper since it's made for american customers. It comes with Wm6 built in. Less expensive if bought locket with t-mobile. But it shoud'nt be a problem for you since you already have t-mobile.
Herald-Not made for american customers, so you have to buy it unlocked hence more expensive. COme with wm5 you have to manually upgrade to wm6. You get to register with HTC and reciev all the updates.
Bad stuff about having branded T-Mobile: it comes with Myfaves, this app takes up a ton of storage and program meory, hate htis s**t.
So these were the differences in Herald and the wing.
but if you do chose to go unlocked then the question is Tytn V/S Herald V/S Tytn II right. As you know the tilt or tytn ii is the best and the most powerfull phone on the market, but as you mentioned before it's expensive, really really expensive. But depends on how much you want to spend ATT sells it locked for $550, plus unlocking charge. If you want to specifically buy tytn 2 then it's like 600 to 700 dollars.
Now Herald v/s Hermes. Herald is slimmer and lighter than Hermes. Arguably better looking too. But the Hermes has a 400mhz procceser while herald only has 200 mhz. Hermes also has a second camera for video call(the American version dosen't have it) the herald dosen't. And finally Hermes also has 3g, the herald dosen't. But you won't be able to use 3G since T_Mobile USA, dosen't support it. I hope this answers all your questions. Tell me if it dosent.
Hi guys, im quite new to the wm 6.5 system and im about to get this amazing hd2 later on from Vodafone. But im really concerned about the locking issue. One website said that Vodafone won't provide the unlocking service to HD2 which would a nightmare for me. just want to make sure if this happens in the future, is there any other way to unlock it??
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Hi guys, im quite new to the wm 6.5 system and im about to get this amazing hd2 later on from Vodafone. But im really concerned about the locking issue. One website said that Vodafone won't provide the unlocking service to HD2 which would a nightmare for me. just want to make sure if this happens in the future, is there any other way to unlock it??
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There are many sites that will be able to unlock it. Have a word with the user ferraripassion on these forums. He is usually the 1st to be able to do it and its quite cheap
nicelad_uk said:
There are many sites that will be able to unlock it. Have a word with the user ferraripassion on these forums. He is usually the 1st to be able to do it and its quite cheap
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Just did a search and one guy on this forum said the HD2 from Vodafone won't be branded and locked, what a good news.
When I spoke to Vodafone cs, they said it would be unlocked (although I'm not sure anymore about their level of honesty)
timewyrm said:
When I spoke to Vodafone cs, they said it would be unlocked (although I'm not sure anymore about their level of honesty)
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Most CS misleading customers or are misinformed, you could get three different answers from four different advisors. But let's hope this time they are telling the right information.
I've been talking with our HTC corporate account manager, and he tells me that the Vodafone HD2's are non-branded and unlocked. This is how Vodafone managed to get the phone out of the door before any of the other carriers.
It's still possible they could choose to apply branding in future, but I don't think it's that likely.
Bagpuss.
Hi guys i have 2 hero's being offered to me.
one is locked to orange the other to tmobile. is one easier to unlock than the other?
i have heard that there are some problems unlocking certain handsets. Has this been sorted?
patterns said:
Hi guys i have 2 hero's being offered to me.
one is locked to orange the other to tmobile. is one easier to unlock than the other?
i have heard that there are some problems unlocking certain handsets. Has this been sorted?
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I have an orange Hero, im only guna use it with orange so i dont need to unlock it, i hear that there is some software issue making the orange one harder to unlock than normal because it wont take unlock codes, so maybe you'll be better with the tmob one
Ferraripassion on here supplied me with an unlock code for a htc hero on orange for around £14. It worked no problem. However you may wish to read the post on the subject of the supply of the "said unlock codes" as it can be a labour intensive process lol
thanks guys,
i got the orange one and unlocked running great!
This is probably a stupid question but is there an issue with unlocking a Desire HD from Vodafone UK? I was looking for code websites and one for instance said they couldn't supply codes for Desire HDs and Desire Zs etc...
If this is possible are there any recommendations for the UK?
Just ring vodaphone and tell em you wanna use a foreign sim when you go abroad they should give you unlock code
Sent from my Desire HD using XDA App
I just unlocked mine here in Australia (from Vodaphone).
Maybe there is a similar site in the uk
hxxps://unlock.vodafone.com.au/voila/handsetunlock/self-service.html?method=selectService
Mine was free to unlock.
Now just to work out how to get rid of the Voda bootscreen as my system folder is still read only after perm-root and using Root Explorer.
Cheers
I should add that I'm not a Vodafone customer - bought it from eBay...
Worst case the seller said he could call them up which I though was quite amiable...
I thought all Vodafone handsets came unlocked?
AndyCr15 said:
I thought all Vodafone handsets came unlocked?
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Mine is. Just tried an o2 SIM, worked perfectly.
chrisa86, please don't think I assume ur dumb but are you certain that it's locked? Because I've been on vodafone for quite some time now and mine always came lock free and happy I read smwr there's even some EU laws now against sim-locking phones that expensive ( correct me if im wrong ).
If after all that's the case, I suggest mancuk29's solution. Call, be nice and charming and they'll give u the unlock code.
gud luck
fitzysx10 said:
I just unlocked mine here in Australia (from Vodaphone).
Maybe there is a similar site in the uk
hxxps://unlock.vodafone.com.au/voila/handsetunlock/self-service.html?method=selectService
Mine was free to unlock.
Now just to work out how to get rid of the Voda bootscreen as my system folder is still read only after perm-root and using Root Explorer.
Cheers
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I think you have to S-OFF your Desire HD, this will allow you to read/write ALL flash
Maybe a fool question but let's assume that we have got a locked DHD (whether Vodafone or something else) and we could not get unlock code from carrier.
In this case, If we root + S-off + recovery + flash a new rom does this transaction make it unlocked?
No, sorry. SIM lock is very different.
AndyCr15, can u elaborate on that. What animal exactly simlock is?
Sorry, can't elaborate as I don't know how it works. All I can say is SIM unlock usually (always that I know of) has to be done using a code from a site or eBay. It's not part of the ROM.
Wow I did not know that Andy. Thanks for the heads up. So should be stay away from locked version.
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chrisa86, please don't think I assume ur dumb but are you certain that it's locked? Because I've been on vodafone for quite some time now and mine always came lock free and happy I read smwr there's even some EU laws now against sim-locking phones that expensive ( correct me if im wrong ).
If after all that's the case, I suggest mancuk29's solution. Call, be nice and charming and they'll give u the unlock code.
gud luck
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Ha... I don't currently have the phone (should come tomorrow) but seller has now found out it isn't actually SIM locked... problem solved.
I did however use a code website to unlock my old G2 Hero so my girlfriend can get away from her old Samsung Jet...
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Not in OZ. Mine was definately carrier locked to VHA. I went through the 'online' process and it was free. If I had of rang them on the phone to do it it would have cost me $75.
That's easy money for a company that sells phones to people with no idea, and as they believe, no option - whats online mean ??
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I think you have to S-OFF your Desire HD, this will allow you to read/write ALL flash
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Yeah done all that (new to Android) but still dont have r/w in the system folder. I can live with it though cause my phone is never off. It's summer, I will work on it when I am out of the pool.
Cheers for the response mate.
Now to find reasons to flash a cust ROM ?? other than cause I can. I am liking the ***** just the way she is at the moment. My car goes fast, I still cant work out why my phone needs to go faster than it does..
FITZY
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Cheers
t-mobile UK sent me an unlock code for my DHD in the first week FOC i just asked for one ....