i am facing a prob
i using the buzz software 'Hima_DOC_Tool_1.0'.
i use the Hima_DOC_Tool_1.0...i get 15MB extra in storage but i found out that the ext ROM was deleted....
i want to restored back by using 'Hima_DOC_Restore_1.0'...the storage is go back original memory but i can't see my extROM after i unhide and unlock my Ext ROM....
can teach me how solve the prob?
thanks
i am using WM5 1.6c...
before i using that software...i hav 15MB storage 120.32MB program, ExtROM 15MB....
after i install Hima_DOC_Tool_1.0... i hav 30MB storage 120.32MB program, ExtROM 0MB....
then i restored using Hima_DOC_Restore_1.0...i hav 15MB storage 120.32MB program, ExtROM 0MB....but RAM disk 64MB....
how can i found back my Ext ROM 15MB...?
thanks
Instead of installing all my apps one by one after a new rom or a hard reset, I am thinking of including the apps into the extended rom folder. My question is "what may be the size of the extended rom folder?"
Usually extended ROM partition is about 10MB.
Please not the following:
1) Flashing a new ROM will format this partition erasing all data!
2) Many programs require registry settings or copy some files to windows folder.
For hard reset you should use Sprite or SPB backup programs to make a self-extracting image of your device (usually on SD).
For ROM changes it is always recommended to reinstall apps because of possible changes in OS structure.
Sorry if this has been posted before, I've serached to no avail. I'm trying to better understand the whole ROM/RAM thing, and have a few questions that will clarify whats going on
a) Without having an SD card, if I copy a file to, say, the "My Documents" folder on the phone, does this get stored on the ROM, or the RAM?
b) I've recently done a hard-reset to restore back to factory settings, but afterwards found some folders on the phone that aren't "factory" (Swype for instance). I thought a hard-reset wiped out all data and replaced it, no?
c) If I were to somehow completely wipe the storage area of my phone (Program files / Windows / ConnMgr folders for instance), would a hard-reset be enough to restore functionality? If so, where would the system files come from?
d) Is the 448Mb RAM used solely for CPU execution, and is wiped by soft-reset or removing the battery?
Sorry if these questions are real basic, but necessary in order to further understand whats going on
Richard_Bushby said:
Sorry if this has been posted before, I've serached to no avail. I'm trying to better understand the whole ROM/RAM thing, and have a few questions that will clarify whats going on
a) Without having an SD card, if I copy a file to, say, the "My Documents" folder on the phone, does this get stored on the ROM, or the RAM?
b) I've recently done a hard-reset to restore back to factory settings, but afterwards found some folders on the phone that aren't "factory" (Swype for instance). I thought a hard-reset wiped out all data and replaced it, no?
c) If I were to somehow completely wipe the storage area of my phone (Program files / Windows / ConnMgr folders for instance), would a hard-reset be enough to restore functionality? If so, where would the system files come from?
d) Is the 448Mb RAM used solely for CPU execution, and is wiped by soft-reset or removing the battery?
Sorry if these questions are real basic, but necessary in order to further understand whats going on
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a) ram on the HD2 is just like the ram of your home computer... it's not for storage, but for program runtime memory
b) may be weird, unless you had a swype folder that came with your stock rom in the first place and you didn't know anyway the plain hard reset doesn't properly format your internal storage memory, that's why tools like task29 exist; it may be possible that folder "survived" the hard reset, even if I find it strange
c) those files would come from the "ROM" after a hard reset the internal storage memory is 512MB, there are "partitions" in it, for radio, rom image, and user files, when you delete system files on your device you are not really deleting the files from the rom image, so they will just be restored after hard reset. Someone please correct me if I'm writing wrong pieces of information
d)yes, again it's just like your pc's ram. Back in the times, old pda's had a pool of "ram" that was used practically for everything, and was in fact shared between program runtime excecution,and files storage, while their "rom" wasn't user writeable, and reserved for just the OS image (thinking about my very first WinCE device now, casio cassiopeia, quite some years have passed!), so if you removed the battery and your backup battery ran out, you would lose your files. HD2 instead has his persistent memory chip, the 512MB/1024MB rom chip, so you won't lose any data without power, but surely your ram chips will.
Thanks for your reply! Just to make sure I've got this right:
The HD2 has:
448MB RAM - volatile / battery dependant memory that is used for program
execution just like in a PC
512MB "storage memory" - non-volatile memory where the windows system
files, program files, music files and "my documents" are stored. Kind of like
the HDD in a PC
512MB ROM - stores the operating system and factory files that are copied
to the "storage memory" in the event of a hard reset. These files can only
be changed by flashing a new ROM image.
A Hard Reset wont format the "storage memory", it will just replace certain
files and folders from the ROM image.
A smaller, or lite ROM image will result in more "storage memory" after a
hard reset
Have I got this basically correct?
If so, one last quick question:
Task29 formats the "storage memory" correct? So I should be able to Task
29 and then a hard reset will get things back up and running without
having to do any flashing of the ROM?
Many thanks in advance
Can anyone confirm the above post?
Richard_Bushby said:
Thanks for your reply! Just to make sure I've got this right:
The HD2 has:
448MB RAM - volatile / battery dependant memory that is used for program
execution just like in a PC
512MB "storage memory" - non-volatile memory where the windows system
files, program files, music files and "my documents" are stored. Kind of like
the HDD in a PC
512MB ROM - stores the operating system and factory files that are copied
to the "storage memory" in the event of a hard reset. These files can only
be changed by flashing a new ROM image.
A Hard Reset wont format the "storage memory", it will just replace certain
files and folders from the ROM image.
A smaller, or lite ROM image will result in more "storage memory" after a
hard reset
Have I got this basically correct?
If so, one last quick question:
Task29 formats the "storage memory" correct? So I should be able to Task
29 and then a hard reset will get things back up and running without
having to do any flashing of the ROM?
Many thanks in advance
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The ROM is the storage memory. There is only RAM and ROM... that is it. The ROM is partitioned into sections for radio, OS image, etc. Running Task29 will format the ROM, but will erase the OS image, so you will need to flash a rom after doing task29.
Richard_Bushby said:
Thanks for your reply! Just to make sure I've got this right:
The HD2 has:
448MB RAM - volatile / battery dependant memory that is used for program
execution just like in a PC
512MB "storage memory" - non-volatile memory where the windows system
files, program files, music files and "my documents" are stored. Kind of like
the HDD in a PC
512MB ROM - stores the operating system and factory files that are copied
to the "storage memory" in the event of a hard reset. These files can only
be changed by flashing a new ROM image.
A Hard Reset wont format the "storage memory", it will just replace certain
files and folders from the ROM image.
A smaller, or lite ROM image will result in more "storage memory" after a
hard reset
Have I got this basically correct?
If so, one last quick question:
Task29 formats the "storage memory" correct? So I should be able to Task
29 and then a hard reset will get things back up and running without
having to do any flashing of the ROM?
Many thanks in advance
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Usually this is what I do. Run Task29. Then after it shows 100%, I hold the VOL DOWN button. Flash the ROM (I flash custom ROMS, you can flash Stock ROMS if you like) with the CPU +USB. After the ROM finishes and shows 100%, hold VOL UP+DOWN to do a hard reset.
Let the first round of ROM fully setup. Then do another hard reset after that. This fully wipes everything off for me and return me to a clean slate that is MUCH more cleaner than ever before.
This is the equivalent of a secure erase on an SSD using the Secure Erase from UCSD's magnetic research facility. It wipes out everything so clean, the police wont be able to trace it if they tried.
zarathustrax said:
The ROM is the storage memory. There is only RAM and ROM... that is it. The ROM is partitioned into sections for radio, OS image, etc. Running Task29 will format the ROM, but will erase the OS image, so you will need to flash a rom after doing task29.
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So from what you're saying... if I copy a file into the My Documents folder, this effectively gets stored on ROM, right?
Richard_Bushby said:
So from what you're saying... if I copy a file into the My Documents folder, this effectively gets stored on ROM, right?
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Correct. All your internal storage is on the rom.
Hi guys,
I’m using VillianRom 12 with app2sd and just wondering how can I replace with new one along with all installed programs. Is it just copy function or I have to run recovery mode?
Thanks
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MpegTv said:
Hi guys,
I’m using VillianRom 12 with app2sd and just wondering how can I replace with new one along with all installed programs. Is it just copy function or I have to run recovery mode?
Thanks
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I don't understand.
"how can I replace with new one along with all installed programs" - do you mean how can you put a new ROM on without losing the programs? Simple answer is that you can't. You have to wipe the sd card's ext partition for a new rom. Having said that you can backup all of your apps using titanium backup and restore them after the wipe.
See my sig for a guide on backing up between wipes.
If your question was about having a new SD you can do a nandroid backup + ext and install it after wiping everything and with your new SD in your phone...
hi all,
I have backed up via recovery and titanium and wondering how to format/partition -
Should i do it thru recovery or use windoze?
Do I need ext partition?
Do i just copy everything from old card to new, I'd rather start off nice and new?
Are there any folders that i need to create or will the phone do so itself?
What about the internal SD - can/should i delete everything in there - I've noticed that with all the roms I've flashed and playing around I've done there is stuff from previous apps that I thought I got rid of but are still in the internal.
Does a factory reset not delete anything in here and if not, is it a safe place to store a backup taking into consideration space limitations?
TIA