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If I were to buy a Tab from Europe for use in the United States on AT&T, is there a particular model out there that works on the bands AT&T supports? As I understand it, the phone capability is disabled on the U.S. release, so I'd like to get one that has the capability, since I'm a bluetooth user primarily for phone calls anyway.
jdsemler said:
If I were to buy a Tab from Europe for use in the United States on AT&T, is there a particular model out there that works on the bands AT&T supports? As I understand it, the phone capability is disabled on the U.S. release, so I'd like to get one that has the capability, since I'm a bluetooth user primarily for phone calls anyway.
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If we are lucky the phone is disabled only at the ROM level... In which case we may get it back when flashing
If you want the right 3G bands, I would bet on Telstra (Australia0 or Bell (Canada). The problem is you'll probably end up paying more than US versions
We are on the same boat btw...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=824676
What worries me is AT&T has been super slow in announcing its model... We still have no idea when it will be available or how much it will cost
^ Most likely before the holiday shopping season begins. They wont DARE miss it.
What At&t is probably doing is focusing on Windows Phone 7 for a while before switching their marketing over to the Galaxy Tab. Also, let the other carriers market the crap out of their own Galaxy Tabs so At&t stands out from the crowd.
The three carriers will be launching their Tabs only a couple of days from each other. T-Mobile is first, two days later Verizon then 4 days later Sprint.
I would love to get an Euro version to use on AT&T, but they are so damn expensive. The cheapest I've found is $939!!!!
INeedYourHelp said:
I would love to get an Euro version to use on AT&T, but they are so damn expensive. The cheapest I've found is $939!!!!
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On top of that 3G won't work in the US... So no don;t do that, it would be such a waste...
Alcibiade said:
On top of that 3G won't work in the US... So no don;t do that, it would be such a waste...
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NOT true.
The euro model WILL WORK on at&t's 3G just fine (and will make call just fine) if you live in an area that at&t uses 1900Mhz for its 3G network.
I use it just fine here in the SF Bay Area.
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I think if your going to get a tab with no contract the best one to get would be the tmobile one the sim slot is still here so it may just be the rom they mess with,
plus the price is like 599 us why pay 989 plus shipping
bulldebeerman said:
I think if your going to get a tab with no contract the best one to get would be the tmobile one the sim slot is still here so it may just be the rom they mess with,
plus the price is like 599 us why pay 989 plus shipping
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???????
You think the slim slot will be missing on other carriers ? Yeah right...
There will be a SIM slot on all of the Tabs in the US. You need a SIM for 3G connections
clubtech said:
NOT true.
The euro model WILL WORK on at&t's 3G just fine (and will make call just fine) if you live in an area that at&t uses 1900Mhz for its 3G network.
I use it just fine here in the SF Bay Area.
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And you'll be missing 850 Mhx band
So... you pay nearly twice the price of the US Tab and you get a crippled device... Sounds like a great deal !
Alcibiade said:
You think the slim slot will be missing on other carriers ? Yeah right...
There will be a SIM slot on all of the Tabs in the US. You need a SIM for 3G connections
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It'll be missing on the Sprint and Verizon models as they're CDMA-based and therefore don't use SIM cards.
Hey guys- there is already a post that discusses this question. please be careful about clogging the site up with questions that have already been discussed. (it's upsetting the Russians)
As far as the 850 band goes, it's just as fast and available as the 1900 band. 850 was added to relieve congestion due to IPhone users in 2010. 1900 is still most places and isn't going away.
I wouldn't knock someone because they decided to get the euro version without 850. Clubtech has been rocking out on his for about a month with voice capability unlocked while we are sitting around hoping that the US carrier version can be hacked. That only cost him roughly 50 bucks a week and that drops every day we don't have one. Seems pretty smart at this point and by the time we do get ours and figure out how to unlock the phone the difference in price will be negligible. plus he's already saving for the next gen tab while we wait for this one. And how upset will you be when you find out the hardware is disconnected and we can't get the phone turned on and have to pay the same price 2 months later after already buying the castrated US version. I guess we will find out after Thursday. Also, I heard a nasty rumor that the front facing camera on the AT&T version is removed.
I plan to get the T-Mo version without a contract on Wed and then hand that off to my wife as a Wi-Fi only tab when I can get my hands on the unlocked 850 band model that has phone capability as shown on mobilecity.com or Negrielectronics.com. I don't care what the price is, I just want to rock out on a tab like Clubtech is doing NOW!!!
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Clubtech has been rocking out on his for about a month...
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I thought the release date was November first?
he got the Italian model several weeks ago
I didn't realise they'd launched it there earlier, for some reason I was under the impression it was launched across Europe on the same date.
Only the UK model was delayed untill Nov 1. Italy, Germany and several others have had it since early Oct.
The offical unlocked 850/1900 version was delayed until early 2011. Atleast thats what Samsung told Nergi however, the Bell version is offically coming on Nov 12th and that version has 850/1900 3G bands so there ya go... Full 3G in the USA!
Hi guys... I joined xda to try to figure out the best way to get voice calling in the US on the Tab... so thank you all so much for your information.
In an attempt to see if I have 1900MHz coverage from AT&T in my area... I called their 800 no. (1-800-331-0500) given to me by the local office, cus they didn't know precise coverage areas.
At the 800 number, the rep read from an Oct 10 release (on their MyCustomer Service Portal) where AT&T says that "because the number of customers with 1900MHz only phones is declinging" they are phasing out that frequency in 2010-2011. It's already begun in 30 markets (OKC phase out should be complete by Dec 2 according to the release). (Edited to add: clubtech says that they've been saying this since 2008, and hasn't happened yet.... so maybe it won't? who knows...)
They said they would replace customers' phones as the frequency was phased out if they were 1900MHz only.
And from what I've been able to learn here and elsewhere... it is the 1900MHz frequency that the Galaxy Tab uses, not the 850 frequency (at least on AT&T).
Sooooo.... isn't that lovely?
Looks like a Euro unlocked will not work for too much longer... altho maybe by the time the 1900 bands are phased out, there will be other workarounds.
So it's either back to mobilecity to preorder the 3G unlocked version for $879 (and who knows when that will be in?) or wait to see if the T-Mo version can be flashed to voice calling... which hopefully we will know soon.
btw... in my searching, clubtech was kind enough to enlighten me that the Euro version Tabs on eBay will only work on the 2G network of T-Mobile, which obviously is no good... so heads up on that.
But I must say I am getting even more pissed at the US carriers for making it so difficult to use the phone features of the tablet.
xexes said:
Hi guys... I joined xda to try to figure out the best way to get voice calling in the US on the Tab... so thank you all so much for your information.
In an attempt to see if I have 1900MHz coverage from AT&T in my area... I called their 800 no. (1-800-331-0500) given to me by the local office, cus they didn't know precise coverage areas.
At the 800 number, the rep read from an Oct 10 release (on their MyCustomer Service Portal) where AT&T says that "because the number of customers with 1900MHz only phones is declinging" they are phasing out that frequency in 2010-2011. It's already begun in 30 markets (OKC phase out should be complete by Dec 2 according to the release). (Edited to add: clubtech says that they've been saying this since 2008, and hasn't happened yet.... so maybe it won't? who knows...)
They said they would replace customers' phones as the frequency was phased out if they were 1900MHz only.
And from what I've been able to learn here and elsewhere... it is the 1900MHz frequency that the Galaxy Tab uses, not the 850 frequency (at least on AT&T).
Sooooo.... isn't that lovely?
Looks like a Euro unlocked will not work for too much longer... altho maybe by the time the 1900 bands are phased out, there will be other workarounds.
So it's either back to mobilecity to preorder the 3G unlocked version for $879 (and who knows when that will be in?) or wait to see if the T-Mo version can be flashed to voice calling... which hopefully we will know soon.
btw... in my searching, clubtech was kind enough to enlighten me that the Euro version Tabs on eBay will only work on the 2G network of T-Mobile, which obviously is no good... so heads up on that.
But I must say I am getting even more pissed at the US carriers for making it so difficult to use the phone features of the tablet.
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What starts to piss me off is AT&T has still not given any release date. Probably trying to please Apple... Once AT&T's tab is out we'll find out whether the call has been disabled at the hardware level (Given Samsung's history, I kind of doubt it)
But point taken, Cell phones networks (and operators) are at the level of Third World countries in America... (I lived in Hong Kong and Japan before)
Alcibiade said:
But point taken, Cell phones networks (and operators) are at the level of Third World countries in America... (I lived in Hong Kong and Japan before)
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Different countries' networks have different strong points and weak points.
In the UK, the biggest upside is the competitive pricing. The biggest downside is the generally poor data services, allowances, prices and speeds.
In the US, the cons seem to be the 50/50 split between two technologies, making matters unnecessarily complex and reducing competition, thus leading to poorer pricing. The pros relate to the superior adoption/acceptance of data usage, more generous allowances, pushing forwards with better network technologies and higher speeds.
Or, at least, that's how I see it.
I'm on the same boat with you Alcibiade. Although I tend to believe it's the collaborative decision, or perhaps more on the Samsung's side, to make the Tab more competitive to the iPad. If you look at the pricing of the Euro/Asia version, it's pretty much no contest against the iPad. For them to sell it here in the State (the home of walmart, Target, etc, and where iPad is from) they really had to take drastic approach to lower it in order to match the iPad. And that leaves u, and me getting frustrated about if we really do have the type of options that Samsung is trying to appeal to the consumer (by offering the same device to different carriers).
From what I can gather, aside from the lack of the voice capability, there are small difference between carriers. Spring and Verizon's version seems to have only 2GB built in memory. The T-Mobile runs on it's own 3G band. And AT&T's version is up in the air. I know for me I definitely need GSM for traveling, so that really leaves me without too much choice.
Albeit maybe i am just in the minority. But i really wish they could make purchasing Tab as easy as buying the iPad.
So after reading a Thread about it going live in Pittsburgh, I figured i'd contact t-mobile myself to confirm if I had access in New Orleans.
!Socorro S: Welcome to T--Mobile Live Chat! My name is Socorro sj and my Rep i.d. is xxxxx.
!Socorro S: Can you give me 3-4 minutes to look it uo for you?
Me: Yes, thank you.
!Socorro S: what type of phone do you have?
Me: I currently have a monthly4g plan w/ T-mobile. I wanted to purchase the international version of the Samsung galaxy note (GT-n7000). The phone doesn't have the 1700mhz base band
!Socorro S: Hello, are you still there?
Me: I heard T-mobile was refarming the 1900mhz base band for data and has deployed it in some areas.
!Socorro S: Oh, okay. Let me look into that, and thanks for the info.
Me: If you need any other information, feel free to ask
!Socorro S: Let me check on my resources here. I will be right back, in about 4-5 minutes. Is this okay with you?
Me: That's fine.
!Socorro S: what phone do you have now. Prepaid Accounts do not show us the type of phone customer has.
Me: That's odd.
Me: I have a Samsung Exhibit II 4G
!Socorro S: Yes, 900mhz band for data live in New Orleans.
Me: I'm sorry, do you mean 1900mhz?
!Socorro S: 1 mean, 1900mhz, sorry.
Me: Oh, that is great news!
!Socorro S: Anything else I can be of further help today?
Me: I have one other question.
!Socorro S: Sure!
Me: Is it possible to confirm if the samsung galaxy note will be coming to T-mobile under contract?
!Socorro S: There are conditions/eligibilities to follow. However, for this request, you will need to speak with our Customer Care experts.They can be reached by dialing 611 from your handset or 1-800-937-8997
Me: Alright. Thank you for your help!
!Socorro S: Thank you for contacting T-Mobile Live Chat. Have a great day ahead of you!
!Socorro S: and, thanks much, too, for being such a wonderful and valued customer!
Me: Thank you. Have a good day.
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As you can see, 1900mhz baseband for data is spreading. Looks like people with quadband radios can finally rejoice. New Orleans seems to be one of the last places to get anything, so this was a shock to me.
Is 1900 MHz the frequency that AT&T uses? I can't remember. I would love to use 3G on my Droid 3.
MrObvious said:
Is 1900 MHz the frequency that AT&T uses? I can't remember. I would love to use 3G on my Droid 3.
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taken from the wikipedia page:
DROID 3: CDMA2000 800/1900, EV-DO Rev. A
GSM 850/900/1800/1900 UMTS
WCDMA 850/1900/2100
That's not what I asked. I meant does that mean 1900 MHz will be what T-Mobile will allow now that they didn't before?
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Synthetickiller said:
So after reading a Thread about it going live in Pittsburgh, I figured i'd contact t-mobile myself to confirm if I had access in New Orleans.
As you can see, 1900mhz baseband for data is spreading. Looks like people with quadband radios can finally rejoice. New Orleans seems to be one of the last places to get anything, so this was a shock to me.
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We've been fairly blessed with wireless tech implementation in new orleans thoguh, we were one of the very first to get ATT LTE and had very early ATT 3g rollouts here too, as was the case with the 3g rollout The large number of events being held in the New Orleans area plays a huge role in their decisions, it was a superbowl and final four that did it for 3g and the BCS championship that did it for ATT LTE and superbowl this year as well all play a role and hey ill take it right
Sorry to bump an old thread - but New Orleans definitely has NOT been refarmed yet. I am sitting in the middle of downtown NOLA right across from Tulane Medical School and my Pre 3 only gets ****ty E.
I called 3 T Mobile stores about when the refarm is going to happen and they gave me three different answers - by the end of the month - by the end of summer - and in 3 weeks.
It has been 1 week since I called so I guess we'll see what happens.
Ladholyman said:
Sorry to bump an old thread - but New Orleans definitely has NOT been refarmed yet. I am sitting in the middle of downtown NOLA right across from Tulane Medical School and my Pre 3 only gets ****ty E.
I called 3 T Mobile stores about when the refarm is going to happen and they gave me three different answers - by the end of the month - by the end of summer - and in 3 weeks.
It has been 1 week since I called so I guess we'll see what happens.
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They have no clue, anyone who knows won't be on the phone, I played the same game with them a year ago, I don't honk they'll do it till LTE isn't this market, I mean they didn't do it for 2012 when we had so many HUGE world stage events hosted here Super Bowl most recently, I mean ATT managed an Entire LTE deployment of SE Louisiana just for all the conventions and events to promote their LTE service, and its damned nice but I checked weekly with t-mobile with nothing, and the thing is, usually you know before hand when it's coming because they are doing tests at least in the CBD for a while before the officially "flip the switch.
I'm actually on the opposite end now, I'm using my tmobile mytouch 3G slide on ATT EDGE, actually do you want to meet up somewhere public and trade phones? Let me know either way, now that I'm focused on it I need to get back on at least 3G.
FiveOhFour said:
They have no clue, anyone who knows won't be on the phone, I played the same game with them a year ago, I don't honk they'll do it till LTE isn't this market, I mean they didn't do it for 2012 when we had so many HUGE world stage events hosted here Super Bowl most recently, I mean ATT managed an Entire LTE deployment of SE Louisiana just for all the conventions and events to promote their LTE service, and its damned nice but I checked weekly with t-mobile with nothing, and the thing is, usually you know before hand when it's coming because they are doing tests at least in the CBD for a while before the officially "flip the switch.
I'm actually on the opposite end now, I'm using my tmobile mytouch 3G slide on ATT EDGE, actually do you want to meet up somewhere public and trade phones? Let me know either way, now that I'm focused on it I need to get back on at least 3G.
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I love my Pre 3. Webos is slick, slick, slick. Edge is not. It's like having a Cadillac and being forced to drive on the bike lane.
FiveOhFour said:
They have no clue, anyone who knows won't be on the phone, I played the same game with them a year ago, I don't honk they'll do it till LTE isn't this market, I mean they didn't do it for 2012 when we had so many HUGE world stage events hosted here Super Bowl most recently, I mean ATT managed an Entire LTE deployment of SE Louisiana just for all the conventions and events to promote their LTE service, and its damned nice but I checked weekly with t-mobile with nothing, and the thing is, usually you know before hand when it's coming because they are doing tests at least in the CBD for a while before the officially "flip the switch.
I'm actually on the opposite end now, I'm using my tmobile mytouch 3G slide on ATT EDGE, actually do you want to meet up somewhere public and trade phones? Let me know either way, now that I'm focused on it I need to get back on at least 3G.
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You DO realize that the rollout of the highspeed wireless is to encourage people to buy their phones to tether them to their home computers at a huge markup because most of the telco lines and cable is still in bad repair from disasters/floods of the recent past. Don't think for a second AT&T is being "nice", it's a marketing strategy. However, congratulations on receiving an actual usable 4G signal out there!
I cant wait to for phoenix,A.Z. to get 4G lte.It probably wont get here until Oct,Nov of 2013
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rp56 said:
I cant wait to for phoenix,A.Z. to get 4G lte.It probably wont get here until Oct,Nov of 2013
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Should be soon. Any place that has refarmed 3g will be easy to upgrade because it's software at that point. The refarm is taking advantage of new panels and hardware that supports LTE-10 and PCS/AWS DC-HSPA all from the same panel. I think they are just testing KC/Vegas for LTE right now and apparently are having more problems getting it working right then they care to admit, as it's not as simple as UTMS is since that's an older tech and LTE-10 is brand new and not well tested.
900mhz band for data live in New Orleans.
Oh. 900mhz band for data live in New Orleans is not too bad :highfive:
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You DO realize that the rollout of the highspeed wireless is to encourage people to buy their phones to tether them to their home computers at a huge markup because most of the telco lines and cable is still in bad repair from disasters/floods of the recent past. Don't think for a second AT&T is being "nice", it's a marketing strategy. However, congratulations on receiving an actual usable 4G signal out there!
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I DON'T beieve you are responding to anything I actually wrote, but your assertions are based on bad info.
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Oh. 900mhz band for data live in New Orleans is not too bad :highfive:
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What?!? Did you mean 1900 or were you actually saying something about delivering data over 900mhz band.
Another week waiting for Godot. Come on now, T-Mobile.
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I DON'T beieve you are responding to anything I actually wrote, but your assertions are based on bad info.
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What?!? Did you mean 1900 or were you actually saying something about delivering data over 900mhz band.
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Bad info? I used to work for AT&T a few years AFTER Katrina. That was STILL a complete and utter mess even when I started. Yes, it's been some time since I was working for the big blue Deathstar™ now, but you've never seen all the red tape inside that goes into every little stupid detail. You are correct, I was not directly responding, merely passing comment, so feel free to ignore me at your own whim.
So what does everyone think about this phone not getting 4G in the UK, yet the S3 will?
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So what does everyone think about this phone not getting 4G in the UK, yes the S3 will?
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not happy if that is the case! what is this based on?
After checking with Three today while ordering new phone, they confirmed that the phone is 4g enabled and will work when the network is ready. At the moment the network has been upgraded to HSPDA+ and the phone can make use of that...
Hope this is all true and not a sales ploy...
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After checking with Three today while ordering new phone, they confirmed that the phone is 4g enabled and will work when the network is ready. At the moment the network has been upgraded to HSPDA+ and the phone can make use of that...
Hope this is all true and not a sales ploy...
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Boy! I'm gonna ask them to send me that in writing. If true that would be great! I'm with three
MadfishGTB said:
After checking with Three today while ordering new phone, they confirmed that the phone is 4g enabled and will work when the network is ready. At the moment the network has been upgraded to HSPDA+ and the phone can make use of that...
Hope this is all true and not a sales ploy...
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Trouble is, what frequencies will be enabled? 800, 1800 etc, etc? Will we be forced to have multiple versions of the phone which are carrier dependent like in the States?
It makes no difference to me as in the uk 4G will only be available in limited areas for a year or two and by then itll be time for the note 3. 4G would be of no use to me at all where I live in the uk.
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I want to buy the note 2, but all these 4g frequencies fuss and no 100% confirmation from the carrier i use T-Mobile is holding me back.
As far as i know t-mobile will use a different frequency (ee) that note 2 does not support but again am not 100% sure.
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I had a conversation at the 3 store trafford centre one of the staff advised that 3 wasn't updating to 4g but would boost their internet to 46mb ....
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MadfishGTB said:
After checking with Three today while ordering new phone, they confirmed that the phone is 4g enabled and will work when the network is ready. At the moment the network has been upgraded to HSPDA+ and the phone can make use of that...
Hope this is all true and not a sales ploy...
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How can people who have the phones check?
Not sure, would like to know so I can check on Thursday...
TBH, even if it doesn't have 4g I don't think i'll be too bothered as I've never thought download speeds were an issue... HD vids on youtube always downloaded without issue for example...
Faster is always better though so will be nice to have that extra bandwidth
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After checking with Three today while ordering new phone, they confirmed that the phone is 4g enabled and will work when the network is ready. At the moment the network has been upgraded to HSPDA+ and the phone can make use of that...
Hope this is all true and not a sales ploy...
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I got the same reply when talking online to Three CS earlier tonight.
Has anyone got their's from 3 yet?
I think I might go for it tomorrow, for the £34 one.
Do 3 let you upgrade to the One Plan mid contract though, in case I decide I want tethering? lol
That would be amazing if it was 4G, or maybe if I can get a seller to tell me it does.
The Galaxy Note II (N7100) definitely does NOT handle 4G. The good news is that it does handle HSDPA+ which is in "real world" tests gives 4G a good run for its money without the price premium. EE are expected to charge around £15 a month on top of their existing 3G tariffs per month for their 4G with data caps.
Late last night, Ofcom, EE, Vodafone and O2 agreed a faster rollout of 4G in the UK with EE4G starting in the next few weeks in some cities. Vodafone and O2 will bid for new frequencies early next year and hope to be up and running by Spring 2013. EE will therefore have a lead of around 20 weeks but are expected to insist on a minimum term contract of 12 months.
I am staying with HSDPA on 3 and will see what competition does to prices next year and what real world performance and coverage is like. Others can risk their money being Guinea Pigs!
EE will be offering the 4G version of the Note II (N7105) for customers prepared to pay for an extended contract. It will be available from EE from October 15th.
I have just ordered the N7100!
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http://www.pocket-lint.com/news/47806/samsung-galaxy-note-2-lte-ee-uk-4g
15th October
RambJoe said:
Has anyone got their's from 3 yet?
I think I might go for it tomorrow, for the £34 one.
Do 3 let you upgrade to the One Plan mid contract though, in case I decide I want tethering? lol
That would be amazing if it was 4G, or maybe if I can get a seller to tell me it does.
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U can tether on all u can eat data ...
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U can tether on all u can eat data ...
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Whilst this is possible it is specifically NOT permitted under their terms and conditions.
Three only permit tethering on their mobile data packages intended for laptops and myfi devices. If you try to use an "all you can eat" phone sim in a myfi device from Three, it does not work. Despite this, it is possible to tether a phone even though it is not officially allowed.
Needless to say, the data SIM route is more expensive than the "all you can eat" packages intended for unfettered phones.
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The Galaxy Note II (N7100) definitely does NOT handle 4G. The good news is that it does handle HSDPA+ which is in "real world" tests gives 4G a good run for its money without the price premium. EE are expected to charge around £15 a month on top of their existing 3G tariffs per month for their 4G with data caps.
Late last night, Ofcom, EE, Vodafone and O2 agreed a faster rollout of 4G in the UK with EE4G starting in the next few weeks in some cities. Vodafone and O2 will bid for new frequencies early next year and hope to be up and running by Spring 2013. EE will therefore have a lead of around 20 weeks but are expected to insist on a minimum term contract of 12 months.
I am staying with HSDPA on 3 and will see what competition does to prices next year and what real world performance and coverage is like. Others can risk their money being Guinea Pigs!
EE will be offering the 4G version of the Note II (N7105) for customers prepared to pay for an extended contract. It will be available from EE from October 15th.
I have just ordered the N7100!
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Are you sure about this?
http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_note_ii_n7100-4854.php
On there the N7100 supports 4G!
Arghhh this is so confusing. I'm currently finished my contract with Orange and just on a roll-on contract with them. And want to use their upgraded EE's 4G and 3G signal.
Are you sure N7100 doesn't have 4G embedded? The GSM website differs..
Can everyone on 3 network just give me am idea of the download speed you get with your phones on HSPDA (or + if you get it) ?
I'm on t mobile ATM but thinking of jumping ship...
b4d5h0t said:
It makes no difference to me as in the uk 4G will only be available in limited areas for a year or two and by then itll be time for the note 3. 4G would be of no use to me at all where I live in the uk.
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Have to agree with this.
Where I live and work these days, I won't see 4G LTE for at least a couple of years, so the lack of LTE in the Note II makes no difference to me.
Coupled with the fact that I'd rather have truly unlimited 3G from Three, as opposed to what is likely to be a tiered data plan on 4G from EE, LTE just isn't a required feature for me at present. Given the current data plans from Orange and TMo, I wouldn't be at all surprised if the data limits for EE's LTE were quite low and expensive - even a 5GB data plan won't last long at LTE speeds if you're really going to use LTE as it is intended.
Also, EE's LTE at 1800MHz isn't going to have great indoor penetration when compared to the LTE at 800MHz that we will see once the spectrum is auctioned off next year, so I'd rather wait for something better.
Ordered my Note II from Three yesterday, as my contract was coming to an end. I fully expect to replace it this time next year, despite the fact I will have to pay full price as I'll only be a year into the contract, so it's not as if I will be 'stuck' for two years anyway!
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Dave
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Doesn't this mean it won't support 4G?
http://www.samsung.com/uk/news/localnews/2012/uk-availability-of-samsung-galaxy-note-ii-announced
Specifically:
Network
3G: HSPA+ 21Mbps (HSDPA 21Mbps / HSUPA 5.76Mbps)
So I am kinda sad that where GS2 gets 1 bar of T-Mobile service, I get No Service at all on N4. I also noticed that at work my GNex used to work a bit better then N4. I read that T-Mobile implemented 1900 in the area but so far I haven't seen a single benefit, and GS2 can't even access 1900, N4 can.
This past month building penetration is driving me nuts. Outside get 4-5 bars, once I step inside its either 1 bar or No Service.
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So I am kinda sad that where GS2 gets 1 bar of T-Mobile service, I get No Service at all on N4. I also noticed that at work my GNex used to work a bit better then N4. I read that T-Mobile implemented 1900 in the area but so far I haven't seen a single benefit, and GS2 can't even access 1900, N4 can.
This past month building penetration is driving me nuts. Outside get 4-5 bars, once I step inside its either 1 bar or No Service.
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Had similar problem. Owned S2 before and was not getting signal on N4 where S2 used to get.
However the newer .48 baseband that comes with 4.2.2 vastly improved the situation. Now am getting signal where S2 never got and at the
same time there are still some places I don't get signal on N4 where S2 used to get.
^ I am on 48 now and haven't notice any improvement at my work location. I remember I was able to talk on Gnex while seating at desk and now with N4 I have to go next to window.
At the same time, my wife is using Gnex and she still doesn't get any service at work even after the so called 20% better indoor coverage. And I checked, her town falls under the improved towers that support 1900 3G. Same situation today in mall....No Service on N4 in city that was supposedly improved. I wasn't getting service in mall 5 years ago and I don't get any now....
"T-Mobile’s network modernization project will improve approximately all 37,000+ towers the company is operating over the course of 18 months. These changes offer improved voice and data coverage, as well as a 20% improvement to indoor coverage."
Try this; dial *#*#4636#*#* Choose GSM only. It will go to Edge data and you should get more bars/signal.
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Try this; dial *#*#4636#*#* Choose GSM only. It will go to Edge data and you should get more bars/signal.
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In that case wouldn't it be easier just switch to 2G in settings or better yet have a 2G/3G switch in CM notification panel?
I am pretty sure it doesnt work though, I remember trying that some time ago.
Doing my suggestion, I gain between 5-12db+/-
Wcdma set to 2G or gsm auto prl settings do not yield the same result.
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Doing my suggestion, I gain between 5-12db+/-
Wcdma set to 2G or gsm auto prl settings do not yield the same result.
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I'll check again today at work place.
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I'll check again today at work place.
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Tried. Doesnt seem to be any different switching to GSM Only or simply switching to 2G. And 2G jumps from 4 bars to 2 to No Service again. Its probably a bit better because in 2G mode phone avoids jumping to 3G network. In 2G I can actually make a phone call now, but internet is so slow that its hardly working.
and yet again i am facing this issue and its even more frustrating
I moved to a different job location and just like before there is no service at my desk and on top of this now I get 0-bars service outside.....completely NO service once you close the office door (just a regular 1 story none-commercial house made from wood)
So now both me and my wife cannot use our phones at least 8 hours per day (she works at different location but also gets NO service) And again whats funny is that Sprint, ATT, and Verizon work fine in both locations.
lol for both address t mobile map shows that i have decent indoor coverage even in concrete buildings
tmobile has their own towers as well as free roaming on other company's towers (ATT etc...). Not sure if you knew that already or not, but it sounds like your phone isn't roaming on those towers that it should be. Do you have the allow roaming features checked? Last I was with them roaming was completely free but I would double check.
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tmobile has their own towers as well as free roaming on other company's towers (ATT etc...). Not sure if you knew that already or not, but it sounds like your phone isn't roaming on those towers that it should be. Do you have the allow roaming features checked? Last I was with them roaming was completely free but I would double check.
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roaming is checked. ATT service is there. but Tmobile phones (not just mine) do not roam there. i suppose roaming is where tmobiles does not have any coverage at all, but if coverage is spotty then there is no roaming.
I only have 2 options now. Jump on ATT or get phone that supports WIFI calling (Galaxy S4 or HTC One). I tried GrooveIp for my Nexus 4 but it just doesnt work as good as Wifi-calling
Tmo gave me 2 choices, stay with them and pay $200 migration fee (get different service and phone) or cancel service and pay $200 fee. What a great business strategy.... $200 to migrate, retail price for phone, plus monthly service charge......or $200 to cancel. I wonder if T-Mobile or rep was just stupid.
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... I wonder if T-Mobile or rep was just stupid.
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neither... they hope you are though
edit-i would call back and speak to customer loyalty. they shouldn't penalize you for service they can't provide
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Want to switch to T-Mobile from VZW at end of my Verizon billing cycle around Nov4 (anywhere before that maybe like 2-3 days)
How is signal treating you guys without band12?
I will be joining my friends plan he has 2 lines for 100 unlimited everything so my line will be +40
I understand on 5.1.1 there is no wifi calling on Moto X but that might change in 6.0 and maybe with 6.0 they will add band12?
One place I travel to frequently has very bad tmo signal inside the building nothing has changed since year ago when I tested tmobile otherwise everywhere I go signal is always great (while I tested)
I'm guessing that you're on the East Coast, in the NY area (based on the screenshot of your Speedtest results). I'm also there, and I recently switched from Verizon to Ting (which runs on the T-Mobile network).
What can I say? Verizon is king when it comes to coverage, signal strength, and network speed. Absolutely unbeatable anywhere along the Northeast Corridor (Boston to Washington DC). If you are highly mobile for work in remote areas (e.g. upstate New York), then you'll want to stick with Verizon purely for coverage reasons.
T-Mobile coverage and signal strength is going to be lower than Verizon in most areas, but will still retain acceptable signal strength in most areas that aren't rural. Network speeds on LTE are acceptable (around 8Mbps - 12Mbps downstream, and 1.0Mbps upstream).
If you spend most of the time on your smartphone near WiFi, you'll be fine switching to TMobile to save yourself some money.
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I'm guessing that you're on the East Coast, in the NY area (based on the screenshot of your Speedtest results). I'm also there, and I recently switched from Verizon to Ting (which runs on the T-Mobile network).
What can I say? Verizon is king when it comes to coverage, signal strength, and network speed. Absolutely unbeatable anywhere along the Northeast Corridor (Boston to Washington DC). If you are highly mobile for work in remote areas (e.g. upstate New York), then you'll want to stick with Verizon purely for coverage reasons.
T-Mobile coverage and signal strength is going to be lower than Verizon in most areas, but will still retain acceptable signal strength in most areas that aren't rural. Network speeds on LTE are acceptable (around 8Mbps - 12Mbps downstream, and 1.0Mbps upstream).
If you spend most of the time on your smartphone near WiFi, you'll be fine switching to TMobile to save yourself some money.
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I am mostly in the city though and on Verizon I am out of contract but I am just sick of this company (Wireless part) right now around 45$ 30GB to share+2GB free for 3 months vs T-Mobile same price everything unlimited.
What does your usage look like (minutes, text, data GB) per month, as a typical month of usage on VZW?
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What does your usage look like (minutes, text, data GB) per month, as a typical month of usage on VZW?
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Last month was a round 5k texts 5.6GB and around 500 min just for my line.
I like to watch soccer games on my phone and always have to watch it in lowest quality instead of HD and listen to spotify everyday at highes quality as well.
So many reasons to want tmobile lol
Wow. That's a whole lot of usage.
So yeah, go with T-Mobile's unlimited plan. You'll be better off with that.
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Wow. That's a whole lot of usage.
So yeah, go with T-Mobile's unlimited plan. You'll be better off with that.
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Yea man that's what the plan is. The one place I spend a lot of time has weak service otherwise everywhere I am is great signal so I am silently hoping that either 6.0 or moto releases new radio fast with band12 support so I can dump Verizon forever and ever lol
By the way were you receiving calls from winback team from Verizon? just wondering I don't have contract anymore so it wouldn't matter and they would not be able to offer me anything anyway but for people who were on contract they would cancel your contract if you came back and all that sort of stuff
I moved from Verizon to T-Mobile a few years back with no issues. I would double check if the location your referring to has any type of WiFi close by. Keep in mind Motorola has really good antennas so if you tested it a year ago on a different phone (Samsung or Nexus 5) it might hold a signal better. At one point I had a Nexus 5 and MotoX 2013 and one of the main reasons I kept the MotoX was due to significantly better signals in the same place.
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I moved from Verizon to T-Mobile a few years back with no issues. I would double check if the location your referring to has any type of WiFi close by. Keep in mind Motorola has really good antennas so if you tested it a year ago on a different phone (Samsung or Nexus 5) it might hold a signal better. At one point I had a Nexus 5 and MotoX 2013 and one of the main reasons I kept the MotoX was due to significantly better signals in the same place.
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I tested few weeks ago AS well but on droid turbo not moto x, and yeah they have time Warner and soon fios so fast internet is not an issue. Are you able to use Wi-Fi calling AS IF now ?
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I've never had to use WiFi for anything lol
Nexus 6 has had it for a while, I remember testing it, didn't care for it, haven't had a need to use it yet. It's not available yet for the MotoX but it's expected (not sure if confirmed) to be activated with marshmallow. I will state that marshmallow has a new toggle for it so I wouldn't be surprised if every phone has it at some point.
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I've never had to use WiFi for anything lol
Nexus 6 has had it for a while, I remember testing it, didn't care for it, haven't had a need to use it yet. It's not available yet for the MotoX but it's expected (not sure if confirmed) to be activated with marshmallow. I will state that marshmallow has a new toggle for it so I wouldn't be surprised if every phone has it at some point.
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Yea there is only one place with bad signal where i spent a lot of time but band12 is in this area just not yet with moto hopefully soak test will add it.
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You can see if Band 12 is in a particular area with this: http://www.spectrumgateway.com/t-mobile-700a-spectrum . Combined with T-Mobile official coverage map, you should be able to get a good idea of the T-Mobile coverage of an area.
It looks like T-Mobile is using Band 12 to fill out national coverage gaps. That's a good thing IMO, if Band 12 has reach/penetration like they say it does. (I live where there is no Band 12 yet, so I haven't tested it.) There are maps floating around (see tmonews.com for example) of the national coverage that T-Mobile plans by end of the year, this planned coverage looks like a blanket similar to Verizon, I think much of this will be the added Band 12 areas. Based on T-Mobile track record, I believe they will get there, if not by end of year then not long after that.
I bought the MXPE counting on Motorola to update it with Band 12 /VoLTE support in the near future, with the idea that it will support it by the time Band 12 is deployed where I need it. The LTE Discovery app is a good tool to see what LTE Band (or other) the phone is using in a particular area, too.
There are still gaps in the T-Mobile national coverage where Verizon has decent coverage while T-Mobile does not. I traveled through one a few days ago, in a rural area about 15 miles from my house. Verizon phone had decent signal, but T-Mobile phones (MXPE and iPhone 6s) had no signal. Since iPhone 6s has robust wireless support including Band 12 /VoLTE, the fact that it had no signal there means there was no T-Mobile signal.
So you just have to look at the maps and see if T-Mobile has coverage where you want coverage. That and actual testing. (If I was on Verizon considering T-Mobile, I would probably buy a month of prepaid T-Mobile or MetroPCS service, pop the T-Mobile SIM in the XT1575, and just try it. "One proper test is worth a thousand expert opinions".)
One thing adding even more wrinkles to all this is the increasing number of LTE roaming arrangements between the tier 1 carriers...
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You can see if Band 12 is in a particular area with this: http://www.spectrumgateway.com/t-mobile-700a-spectrum . Combined with T-Mobile official coverage map, you should be able to get a good idea of the T-Mobile coverage of an area.
It looks like T-Mobile is using Band 12 to fill out national coverage gaps. That's a good thing IMO, if Band 12 has reach/penetration like they say it does. (I live where there is no Band 12 yet, so I haven't tested it.) There are maps floating around (see tmonews.com for example) of the national coverage that T-Mobile plans by end of the year, this planned coverage looks like a blanket similar to Verizon, I think much of this will be the added Band 12 areas. Based on T-Mobile track record, I believe they will get there, if not by end of year then not long after that.
I bought the MXPE counting on Motorola to update it with Band 12 /VoLTE support in the near future, with the idea that it will support it by the time Band 12 is deployed where I need it. The LTE Discovery app is a good tool to see what LTE Band (or other) the phone is using in a particular area, too.
There are still gaps in the T-Mobile national coverage where Verizon has decent coverage while T-Mobile does not. I traveled through one a few days ago, in a rural area about 15 miles from my house. Verizon phone had decent signal, but T-Mobile phones (MXPE and iPhone 6s) had no signal. Since iPhone 6s has robust wireless support including Band 12 /VoLTE, the fact that it had no signal there means there was no T-Mobile signal.
So you just have to look at the maps and see if T-Mobile has coverage where you want coverage. That and actual testing. (If I was on Verizon considering T-Mobile, I would probably buy a month of prepaid T-Mobile or MetroPCS service, pop the T-Mobile SIM in the XT1575, and just try it. "One proper test is worth a thousand expert opinions".)
One thing adding even more wrinkles to all this is the increasing number of LTE roaming arrangements between the tier 1 carriers...
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I actually have a friend who works at tmo he even typed the address and showed me all types of signal available to me and band12 was all over it. I hope that soak test brings b12.
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T-Mobile for data hogs like me is great. Unlimited data for $30, I used around 10GB a month alone. But that is the only reason I use T-Mobile. Coverage pretty much sucks. If I am in the Bay Area CA its fine great signal. As soon as I leave the area I'm lucky if I get 3G speeds let alone a signal. Indoors is even worse. Went to the movies the other day, phone was dead inside no signal at all. My friend who is on At&t got a full 4 bars of LTE. T-Mobile is great for data and coverage in the cities, you leave those cities and you'll be lucky to even get a signal...
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T-Mobile for data hogs like me is great. Unlimited data for $30, I used around 10GB a month alone. But that is the only reason I use T-Mobile. Coverage pretty much sucks. If I am in the Bay Area CA its fine great signal. As soon as I leave the area I'm lucky if I get 3G speeds let alone a signal. Indoors is even worse. Went to the movies the other day, phone was dead inside no signal at all. My friend who is on At&t got a full 4 bars of LTE. T-Mobile is great for data and coverage in the cities, you leave those cities and you'll be lucky to even get a signal...
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I mainly spend time in the city Brookyln & Queens so I don't think it should be an issue but one place where I spend a lot of time otherwise everywhere else it's pretty good when I tested it.
Cell Spot
If there is one place you work or live with poor coverage, T-Mobile also has a couple of options that are basically either a range extended or an internal "tower" so you can use your phone inside where you don't get coverage.
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/coverage/personal-cellspot/4g-lte-signal-booster
Ugh. In principle, I'm not a fan of that at all.
T-Mobilr is basically telling cuatomers to buy hardware, install it themselves, possibly connect it to their home internet networks (and use your bandwidth), for potentially multiple people that don't live in your household.
All of this, because T-Mobile didn't invest in building out network infrastructure like Verizon did.
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If there is one place you work or live with poor coverage, T-Mobile also has a couple of options that are basically either a range extended or an internal "tower" so you can use your phone inside where you don't get coverage.
https://support.t-mobile.com/community/coverage/personal-cellspot/4g-lte-signal-booster
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Yea I am still staying with VZW for now. But there are 2 places that I spend time that have weak service one has no cable internet so that won't do any good even verizon there has weak service 3G and 1 weak bar of lte.
So I am testing tmobile in some place I mainly spend 2 time in 2 places , 1 there is edge and weak LTE -116 around that,I just can't do anthing for the phone to pick up band12 signal. I am running true-pure-x MM
always band4 or HSPA/+ or EDGE.