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Pocket Plus and Xda II Lockups (1.66 ROM)

We have noted some strange locking up of our Xda II's over on the MTekk forums requiring a hard reset. We have a number of threads running at the moment but the main one is here.
I have been in touch with Spb about this and they inform me it is actually an HTC and MS issue. Below is their email response.
Hello David,
We do our best to fix this problem ASAP. We work hard with HTC and
Microsoft now on this problem.
But this problem occurs not only with Spb Pocket Plus but with other
programs too.
We have feedback from HTC and Microsoft about that (sorry, I cannot
disclosure more
details since it is information obtained from our partners).
So I am not sure we will be able to fix it in Spb Pocket Plus - probably
HTC will fix it in their ROM.
Spb Pocket Plus does not use any undocumented functions that can cause
such behavior.
Probably we will disable running Spb Pocket Plus on these devices at all
until HTC fixes this bug in ROM
Pocket Plus 1.x is not available online now but I can send it to you if you want via e-mail.
If you bought Pocket Plus 2.x and can't use it, you can always ask for refund.
If you have any questions, please, don't hesitate to contact me.
Best regards,
Margarita Bochkova
Customer Support Team
Spb Software House
Email: [email protected]
Web: www.spbsoftwarehouse.com
Phone: +7 812 324 49 44
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It appears as though this issue could also be happening with version 1 of Pocket Plus on the 1.66 ROM (and some 1.72 ROM's too).
Thought you guys might like to know. Generally I find Spb products to be good, but it appears as though Spb are being blamed for this issue. I think this email help point the finger in the right direction.
Dave

Hi djwhyte
This is some strange stuff as I've been running Pocket Plus 2.0 for a few months and have recently installed 2.1 (just for the hell of it I think its only a VGA update from what I can see)... but have not had any problems on my XDA II before, hear are my details of my device if this helps:
ROM Version: 1.66.00WWE
ROM Date: 02/20/04
Radio Version: 1.08.00
Protocol Version: 1337.18
ExtROM Version: 1.66.165
The only thing I could think that I MIGHT be doing diferent is that I do not use the today screen pluging (I use all other features like repeating allarms and task mannager!) At the begining I did use the today screen and do not recall any problems as well I've taken it off because my today screen was getting to cluttered with other software I am running.
Not sure if this is going to help you but have to tired installing Pocket Plus with NO other applications installed after a hard reset? It might be a conflict with other software or even a totaly other product causing the problem? Not sure hope this can help you!
Regards
Fudge!

Pocket Plus 2 is installed in my wife's XDA2 with 1.66rom. its almost 3 weeks now and so far no problem. my XDA2's rom is only 1.60.

Hey thanks for info guys.
I will have to try without the today screen pluggin and see if makes any difference.
Boybi, your wifes Xda II which is on the 1.66 ROM, does it have the today screen plugin enabled?
Dave

is the Today Plugin the one where you can put battery and memory bars, and put some icons? if yes, then its enabled.

i too am having problems with the spb pocket plus v2.1 using xda2 with 1.66WWE ROM version. i get hang ups and the unit would do a hard reset. good thing i always do a backup of the contacts and appointments!

aside from Pocket Plus, what other Today Plugins can you guys recommend?

I was wondering what was the lockup caused by. I uninstalled the SPB GPRS and SPB Pocket Plus and now it's ok. No more lockup. I had to hard reset, but couldn't initial find the problem until the trial expired, weird. I guess that's why I bought it.

I find GPRS monitor is OK!!
I have a feeling the Today plugin is the cause as I have had no such crashes since I installed it again with the today screen disabled. What part of it I don't know though.
Boybi, which icons, sliders does your wife have enabled on the plugin?

One thing to note on this, is that SPB update their software silently and don't tell ya about it.
So get the latest build of PocketPlus and try again.
Cheers

my wife's XDA2 just locked-up today! can't turn it on even using soft reset. so i think its really the Pocket Plus! now i disabled the today plugin.

Ooooh Sorry Boybi, I hope I didn't curse you but that sounds like the lockup.
I have been running sweetly for three days without the Today screen plugin for PP2. How long did your wife have the Today screen showing before it locked up? Days? Weeks?
Cheers,
Dave

Possible LOCKUP?
DJWHYTE,
im using pocket plus ver 2.1 on a 1.66 ROM XDA II, just installed it 24 hours ago, no problems so far.
All featured ITEMS enabled, Today Plug-in, File Explorer enhancements, Pocket IE enhancement, Looping Alarm, etc..
Im very disturbed by what I just read in this thread, although I have experienced 1 LOCKUP, it happened while SPB Pocket Plus was NOT YET installed.
Can anyone please advise HOW LONG was the average time FROM installation of pocket plus DID the LOCKUP occur? and what your POCKET PLUS version and ROM versions are?
Certainly would put most of us at ease.
Cheers

Re: Possible LOCKUP?
chameleon said:
DJWHYTE,
Can anyone please advise HOW LONG was the average time FROM installation of pocket plus DID the LOCKUP occur? and what your POCKET PLUS version and ROM versions are?
Certainly would put most of us at ease.
Cheers
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With my previous 1.66ITA it worked for about 3 months without troubles (PP 2.0 first and 2.1 later) .
After the upgrade to 1.72.04ITA no chance to install it anymore; it freezes and the only way out is hard resetting. :evil:
Spb team says that they are working on it... hope so, otherwise I will claim for my money back. :evil: :evil:
My experience up to now is that PP is white or black: it works or not, at all. In your case it works, so I would not worry too much... :roll:

Re: Possible LOCKUP?
dave said:
My experience up to now is that PP is white or black: it works or not, at all. In your case it works, so I would not worry too much... :roll:
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Good, now I can sleep better knowing my XDA 2 will still turn on tomorrow when I wake up. Thanks DAVE.
Any other observations out there?
I may DREAM better if there are, hehehe.

my wife's 1.66rom XDA2 runs with PP2.1 for 2 weeks without any problems until yesterday.

maybe other apps?
boybi,
pre,
maybe another app caused the lockup? you havent installed anything new in those two weeks? may i please know what your apps are?
mine are:
1. pocket plus 2.1
2. my calendar
3. pocket zen
4. flash player activeX
5. morphgear
6. calendar plus
7. pocket translator
8. pencil box
9. calc98 and aidem calc
10. betaplayer
11. SB check notifications.
12. vbirthday
just want to know for comparison AND app finger-pointing.
thanks.

I too have had the problem
Ever since I installed the Spb PocketPlus ver 1.x and onward I have had that problem. It occurs rarely but often enough to annoy me (1-2 times/month). It seems to make no difference if I disable the Today screen. I have removed it now. I don't have much other software on it, except for Destinator 3 and a painting program. I won't return to PocketPlus until the issue is solved.
Johan

sbp
The italian localized 2.1 will not work on the 1.72 ROM, to make it works you need to install the 2.0 and after it the 2.1.
No problems at all

Re: maybe other apps?
chameleon said:
boybi,
pre,
maybe another app caused the lockup? you havent installed anything new in those two weeks? may i please know what your apps are?
mine are:
1. pocket plus 2.1
2. my calendar
3. pocket zen
4. flash player activeX
5. morphgear
6. calendar plus
7. pocket translator
8. pencil box
9. calc98 and aidem calc
10. betaplayer
11. SB check notifications.
12. vbirthday
just want to know for comparison AND app finger-pointing.
thanks.
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ito lang mga nakainstall:
1. spb pocket plus 2.1
2. pocketzenphone
3. sprite backup 3.0
4. sprite pocketmon (today plugin disabled)
5. uBook
the memory card i have ordered for my wife's XDA2 just arrived that's why i haven't installed a lot of programs in her unit.

M500 noob questions

Hi,
i have just got my first magician device - the SPV M500 and have a few questions. is it worth updating any of the roms like so many of these posts talk about? although i purchased it on orange and it has all the orange branding i mainly use my o2 sim - should i look at using the o2 xda mini rom? or am i best just sticking with what i have?
also what programms would people most reccomend for the magician devices? as i want to get the most out of it! also is there a better software for backing the phone up than activesync?
thanks and sorry for the stupid questions!
Tom

anyone?

I always say: if it aint broken, dont fix it
I dont follow the rule myself, I like to tweak and patch my device until its to my satisfaction....the default configs are just horrible imo
but if you dont know what yer doing...be carefull with upgrading
for software I have a few apps I cant do without:
WebIS Pocket Informant 2005 - a PIM application
phoneMax PhoneAlarm - Advanced profile setup
Wivit SIM Status Switcher - for switching between SIM cards when using a dual SIM adapter
SPB Weather - I like to know the weather...this is a Today screen plugin
SBSH Pocketbreeze - displays your tasks and appointments on the today screen

Get some backup software and then you can play to your hearts content.
However, I went from 1.11 to 1.12 without noticing any differences, so I'd concur, don't mess unless you feel you really need to!
Do the bigstorage hack though. And if you're doing that, you might as well rom upgrade at the same time.
V

I had the same debate over my m500.
I used it for around 3-4 days just how it was supplied to me, to see if it was stable (which it was) the rom that was supplied with my m500 was 1.06 (found in start>settings>system>device info) I have kept this version of the rom, but upgraded the radio rom to 1.13 and also hacked it to give me big storage.
Imp

Bring me up to date ^^;;

Hi guys.
I'm new here, but that won't matter.
I'm new to this entire phone area. I ordered a Cingular 8125, and is due on Monday. I've been using those "free with contract" phones for a while now, and I thought I would like a change in pace.
But the problem is, I know nothing at all about the Cingular 8125, so I have a few questions.
I have a Cingular SIM, as I am a customer of Cingular, but I'm buying the phone seperately, so do I have to get it unlocked?
What are some applications to use on it?
What is all of this talk about AKU2 i-mate, etc about?
And anything important you would like me to know...
Thanks guys, I appreciate it. ^_^

you dont need it unlocked if you use a cingular sim. They won't give it to you unlocked, but you can use a program called lokiwiz or awizard to do it if you want to. search the forums for downloads.
Aku2 is an update that adds push e-mail and stereo bluetooth support. imate is just the name of a company that rebrands these phones.
applications you need: omapclock, wm5newmenu, smartskey, RegistryWizard and Total commander
i also suggest a today screen shortcut launcher and a program that makes the X button actually close programs instead of minimize them. i use spb pocket plus for this, but there are free alternatives.
Opera has a great internet browser for ppc and an excellent java based mini version. I suggest both of those
Get TCPMP for movies and I like Mortplayer for mp3's

Thanks.
Where can I find these programs?

google.com, your local pirate for the rest

Thanks ^_^

Also, which ROM update should I use? I see a lot after I searched..

I just upgraded from Tmobile MDA to the latest ROM, and my problems have all but vanished. Radio now picks up Wifi much quicker etc:
K-JAM_WWE_216901_2169101_020710_ship.zip

Thanks, does it matter which model you have? Cingular 8125, T-Mobile MDA, etc?

Pondering the leap myself...
pmow said:
I just upgraded from Tmobile MDA to the latest ROM, and my problems have all but vanished. Radio now picks up Wifi much quicker etc:
K-JAM_WWE_216901_2169101_020710_ship.zip
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Did you have problems with the settings or anything? Once you managed the install, how complicated was it? Did you edit the extended ROM? How much storage did you have after the install?

Problem - very strange

MY QTEK 9100 started to be very strange, each time I connect to internet through wireless or GPRS start to be extremely slow...I mean the complete OS become uncontrollable.
once whilesurfing in those condition it gave me the message "there is a script runnin on your system which make the system unstable, you want to stop?" but I wasn't able to push yes or not cause the mobile freeeeze before...it happen often this situation....can u give me any clu or help to solve this matter?
thanks Giordano
my QTEK 9100 install the 1.6.7 ROM
spb plus
SBSH breeze
CE star
H&H chinese english dictionary
AEK map to remap the keyboard
I hope u can help me...thank a lot
Giordano

Giordano said:
MY QTEK 9100 started to be very strange, each time I connect to internet through wireless or GPRS start to be extremely slow...I mean the complete OS become uncontrollable.
once whilesurfing in those condition it gave me the message "there is a script runnin on your system which make the system unstable, you want to stop?" but I wasn't able to push yes or not cause the mobile freeeeze before...it happen often this situation....can u give me any clu or help to solve this matter?
thanks Giordano
my QTEK 9100 install the 1.6.7 ROM
spb plus
SBSH breeze
CE star
H&H chinese english dictionary
AEK map to remap the keyboard
I hope u can help me...thank a lot
Giordano
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Already tried a soft or hard reset?

on a normal PC I would say you have a Virus or something. But on the pocket pc?
hmmm, could be first virus...
I assume, soft reset did not help? If not, then you should make a hard reset.

Giordano said:
MY QTEK 9100 started to be very strange, each time I connect to internet through wireless or GPRS start to be extremely slow...I mean the complete OS become uncontrollable.
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does your home page contain scripts maybe ?
i get the same message sometimes but it depends on which web site im trying to load. one of these freeware collections for ppc web sites gave me this message all the time.

ok tried soft and hard reset...it happens even on MSN so i doubt it depends only from IE...so le's exclude internet site which requires payment........

Simple skin (nokia like)?

Hi!
When I upgraded to the new HTC Artemis I let my wife inherit my Magician, but she is not that in to PPC, so the question is:
Is there a skin suit (WisBar Adv Desktop or something) available that could make the phone more like a "normal" cell phone? She does not realy need all the fancy suff, but she uses tomtom, media player, SMS, MMS, Phone, Contacts, Calendar, IE, phonealarm profiles and phonealarm MMS, SMS, missed call notifications.
Preferably all functions should be available from today screen as large icons.
PK

Seach for the Orange today plugin. Make it looks very much like a normal phone (that's why I don't use it )
Link here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276425
I've tested it on my WM5, not sure if (it should) work on WM2003

hanmin said:
Seach for the Orange today plugin. Make it looks very much like a normal phone (that's why I don't use it )
Link here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276425
I've tested it on my WM5, not sure if (it should) work on WM2003
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Thanks!
This is just what I'm looking for, sadly it does not run on PPC2003SE :-(
I guess the same thing could be made as a WisBar theme, maybe it already is, but just hard to find ;-)
PK

You might just want to look around for any old thread/forum/post that has this Orange plugin. As Orange does have a Magician release that has that today plug-in (eg they DO have a plugin for 2003). Good luck.

paalkr said:
Is there a skin suit (WisBar Adv Desktop or something) available that could make the phone more like a "normal" cell phone?
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The answer to your question is in your question itselft - Wisbar Adv Desktop.

zerimar said:
The answer to your question is in your question itselft - Wisbar Adv Desktop.
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Hi!
Yes I know, but I'm looking for a skin to the WisBar adv desktop software pack.
PK

I'm not sure if this helps, but if you were to use cLaunch to set up the Today screen .. 'nicely', you may able to make it looks simplier. Take a look at the iPhone cLaunch skin here. Note: cLaunch maybe a bit troublesome to setup.

hanmin said:
You might just want to look around for any old thread/forum/post that has this Orange plugin. As Orange does have a Magician release that has that today plug-in (eg they DO have a plugin for 2003). Good luck.
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Hi!
I have looked all over XDA and used Google, but don't mange to find it! Can anyone pleas post the CAB? I can’t find the ROM on the FTP either.
PK