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Hi folks,
I'm aware of the registry hack to change the RingTone settings (such as vibrate length, etc), but can this be done for the notification alert? When I get a notification the phone just vibrates for too long.
Any help appreciated.
PaulB
Hi,
Any help on this would be most appreciated, as the vibrate just goes on too long, and not only annoys me but everyone in my (quiet) office!
You can set the vibrate length in seconds for RingTone0 in the registry so there must be an equivalent for the notification alert?
PaulB
i second this request, the whole scripting thing for ringtone0 is simple but bizarre especially as there seems to be no equivalent settings for text/email notifications. There must be a way!
Change duration of notification vibration (hey I'm a poet!)
Sorry to bump this again, but as some time has passed I wondered if anyone had managed to find the reg settings for the notification alert?
I really need to shorten the vibration duration for notifications.
I second this, the message alert is way to long. Hope someone have a sollution to this.
Jarle
Fix for long vibration
I recently switched from the Sidekick 3 (I had the sidekick 1, sidekick 1 color, and sidekick 2 as well) to the 8525/TyTN and immediately found this vibration issue described above extremely annoying. The sidekick uses the sound file normally played to generate the vibration pattern, meaning if the sound file has two large amplitude alerts 1 second apart, if the phone is in vibrate mode, it would vibrate twice, with a 1 second spacing.... along with "the beat" of the audio.
Anyways, I discovered today that Windows Mobile does this as well to some extent. If the phone is set to vibrate mode, then it seems that all notifications vibrate as the long, 5 second or so, vibrate that you're all familiar with. HOWEVER, if the notification is set to vibrate and sound acoustically, it vibrates for the duration of the sound file. Strangely, this does not work when the phone is set to only vibrate. To get around this, what you need to do is set your notification (text message, e-mail, whatever) to both play a short sound and vibrate, then set your phone's audio to be on, but then turn the volume all the way down. In this setting, the phone does not play a sound, but does vibrate according to the length of the audio file.
I haven't tested this extensively, but it seems to work so far. This actually was one of my biggest complaints about the phone and i'm very glad i've found a simple work-around.
Let me know your experiences and/or if it doesn't work for you,
Todd
quite a great idea there, but was hoping someone has figured out a better solution?
what about going one step further with this and make a short wav file of pulsed noise, but at 20kHz. you won't here it!
All,
I have just joined this board searching for a solution to EXACTLY this problem. What is required please is a registry tweak that shortens the vibration alert for text messages, etc, when the phone is set ot vibrate only.
The ringtone fix to shorten the vibration alert works when a call comes in but NOT when a message comes in.
Any help on this would be very much appreciated.
Thanks
WB
Oh wow. I have the same annoyance with my phone. You send a text on vibrate and it goes nuts for an hour! Not really that long, but for just a text message notification it should be a little 1 second bitz.
This long vibration is really bad when you are in class and it goes for so long. My phone hits right against those plastic chairs through my pocket and resonates though out the whole room.
Unfortunately the Notification registry entries don't have a script option.
If you go into
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Notifications
the Default String tells you what the each directory is for.
The other keys are
AvailableOptions - What options you can pick from in the Sound/Notifactions screen in settings,
Duration - the length of time the light flashes (5,10,15,20,30,45,60min, 0=no limit)
Options - what sort of notifications you want
1=play sound
2=vibrate
3=play sound, vibrate
4=flash light
5=play sound, flash light
6=flash light, vibrate
7=play sound, flash for, vibrate
8=nothing
9=play sound, display message
10=nothing (can only pick play sound and vibrate)
11=play sound, display message, vibrate
12=Display message, Flash light
13=play sound, display message, flash light
14=display message, flash light, vibrate
15=play sound, display message, flash light, vibrate
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Unfortunately the Notification registry entries don't have a script option.
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So what you are saying is there is no way of making the vibration shorter? No way at all? Could you add an option for time? Is there some program?
Senergy,
Many thanks for your response. Disappointing news as this is a serious nuisance.
I have lost count of the number of times I have been in meetings where the phone has gone off in vibrate mode only for the whole world to know I have had a message. Many a time I simply turn all alerts off which defeats the objective of having a discrete vibrate system.
I rang HTC's support team in the UK and got nowhere.
I wonder if a written query into them might get a more productive response?
WB
Anyone heard of any solutions yet? I've been searching google, forums, etc for days with no luck yet.
DRChrysler,
No but see thread link below. Shantz may yet be able to help us out here.
Cheers
WB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=311838
Hi !
Has somebody found some solution to reduce the delay for the ringtones for blackstone ?
I've installed the second cab here (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=258109) as well as write in the registery (av0pw0r), but i can't reduce the delay under (almost) 2 ring tones, eventough i use a *.wma file.
I've also tried to play on HD tweak (1.7 option), but this does not change anything...
This is very annoying me, i've already lost some calls.
I haven"t tried yet a cooked ROM, but i wonder if this would change something
Please help
make sure the ringtone is on the phone and not card. That helped me a lot.
tks for your answer.
But well, i use (for the moment) the "Alarm-Classic.wav" under windows\rings, so i think it's ok from this side
How much delay do u have ?
hi.
using wma ringtones I get a response on my HD in about 1 ring after a soft reset. From the second call on the HD rings at about half a ring to the caller.
three rings from to wake from soft off.
but i forgot to say that if the phone is already "on", the delay is about 1/2 half ringtone, which is acceptable ! .
It seems that the additionnal delay (about 1 sec.) comes from the phone to go from "standby" to "on"
I've always had a delay with every HTC I've had (C500, C600. E650, Touch HD) using standard and custom ROMs with ringtones as WAV's and MP3's on the device and the storage card. I got used to it ages ago and if the phones on my desk can now predict an incoming call before it rings
Hi,
I was also searching for a solution on the ring tone delay issue. Guess that is a winmobile thing.
However there is no delay if you switch off the ring-tone and enable vibration mode only. That is weired behavior of the phone cause why cannot the ring-tone sound as fast as the vibration comes in vibmode only? And why does the vibration comes as late as the ring-tone when in combi-mode?
I am afraid there is no solution so far...
Regs!
this delay is something you'll have to learn to live with, unfortunately. at least in europe people seem to be finding loud and/or dodgy ringtones not very nice, and when dealing with the wiindows mobile vibrate mode is the one to go for.
another suggestion is to set up a caller tune, people are more likely to wait longer when they're listening to music.
ive found i can get it to ring at 1 ring if i turn off caller id pictures on s2u2
Yeah, the operating system does all the checks and clearing up before handling the call to prevent dropping, the way WM handles things, you can't get way from the delay, slowing the CPU with app like a nuedynamicclock worsens it. Well I notice a call before it rings if it is on
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this delay is something you'll have to learn to live with, unfortunately
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All my wm devices have had this issue. My blackstone lights up from sleep a good 2 to 3 sec. before the first ring. I use the old phone ring tone and have four fairly well spaced rings before vm kicks in. I just count the rings as I get to the phone and it has become a non issue. The hd tweek for it seemed not to have an effect btw. Also I'm with t-mo usa and using their code I have my ringtime set to max rings. which is 30 sec. before vm.
I had the same issue when I had a Tytn II last year.
My issue is that when the phone rings while in normal mode, it is one constant vibration, which I dont like.
Also when i receive a text message in normal mode, the vibration is constant and lasts for about 4 seconds.
BUT
when the phone is in vibrate mode, the vibration for calls is a on/off vibration which I like, and for texts is 3 sharp vibrations which is a lot more useful in distinguishing whether it is a phone call or text that i am receiving when the phone is in my pocket.
Is there anything I can do to make the HD behave the way it does in vibrate mode for all calls?
There must be some sort of registry setting that can be tweaked.
Thanks in advance for any replies..
anyone?
Try this, It could be what your looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=437279&highlight=Valert
Would also be interested.
i remember back in the day, my Nokia 6310i (yeah not even color phone) would vibrate to the ring tone.
valert is cool, but on the HD has a bug that disables volume keys
I've installed VAlert but cant find it anywhere?
Try the attached utility. It's conf is under system settings.
nezz, the app has cyrillic interface: any chance to have it in latin (or at least a translation of what the 3 checkboxes mean?)
thanks
Is there a reg tweak for this? When you turn the phone on it does 2 short vibrations. i would like to use this as the sms vibrate alert. Is that possible?
Thanks!
There is a delay between incoming call and actually the phone ringing. Did you notice that as well? I asked my callers already several times how many rings they have heared. Normally 2, and I only heared one. So?
As well there is a small delay between picking up and actually being able to speak... Did you notice this as well?
i'm facing the same problem
Thx for your feedback. So now the question is if there is any reg-hack to speed this up.
I noticed that too.
But if you pay attention, there is a low ring in the background. Make a test in a zero noise environment..
@uterrorista, low-ring? pretty usefull, ha?
@all, pushing up the topic.
pretty bad, if the "waking up" process takes that long so the caller already got something like 3-4 rings until I hear the first ring...
any idea?
Upgrading your Radio should mostly solve this problem. And always try to have your ringtones in main memory rather than storage cards because power to sd card cuts of in standby mode and may take some time to return after awaken by a call.
Regards,
Carty..
With the new radio occurs the same.
Incoming call delay
This may help....
Somethings to consider:
1- I would say the actual ring signal is not always synchronized with the ring back tone we heard. The may come from different system within a complex telecom network. Therefore, some delay is expected as normal functionality in all telephone systems (Fix and mobile ones). What you hear when calling is send by the phone systems you are connected too (i. e. fix phone line of your provider central office systems). What makes your phone ringing is a command (teleco-protocol) sent by the system you are registered-in) So, we do not expect a ring to ring back sync any way.
2- To the previous fact, we should add the wake-up time, ringing tone search and play back as well as picture and info shown on display, call execution inner in the process on your JADE. You may minimize a bit these things, but I would say only a bit if you have the device always awake (battery waste) and your ringing tones are in the main memory.
3- if your phone does not give you radio problem, please do not upgrade it. You may run in problems you did not have before and it will void your warranty.
4- We can go further and add our ear and brain response time.
5- The time that comes for the call to go to diver destination or voice mail, counts from the moment that your phone is seized by your host public system and not from the moment the caller hear the first ring back tone.
Conclusion:
I do not see a real problem as far as it does not go over two ring back tones.
A lot of ringtones are silent about 1 second before they actually start (just like some songs and stuff). That might be your problem?
cPT.cAPSLOCK said:
A lot of ringtones are silent about 1 second before they actually start (just like some songs and stuff). That might be your problem?
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No, it isnt. Mine is the dafault tone.
If the jade is near a pc monitor, the monitor starts to make interferences two or three seconds before the screen lights up and the tone starts ringing.
yesterday it rang 1x and my caller said he heared the ringtone on his side of the line 5x!!!! wtf!?!?
what can we do to fix this?
Hello my radio version is 0.27.30.09 (from stock)
I too had a 3 ring call delay, i installed jademan superrom (which did not update the radio version , it's still the old one) and somehow the call delay vanished...
Or u can try the reg tweak to set the ring script to "av1pr" using sktools... works well for me..
hope that helps
Raghav_K said:
Hello my radio version is 0.27.30.09 (from stock)
I too had a 3 ring call delay, i installed jademan superrom (which did not update the radio version , it's still the old one) and somehow the call delay vanished...
Or u can try the reg tweak to set the ring script to "av1pr" using sktools... works well for me..
hope that helps
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Can explain the sk-tweak please?
Sure :d
install the latest sktools, Choose tuneup < phone edition < ring script and typr av1pr... which gives u a very short vibrate and ring... (which fits me cos the ring volume isn't very high and i dont wanna miss calls in noisy areas.. U can see help to modify the script to ur needs)
or if u prefer editing registry, use a registry editor to go to HKCU/ControlPanel/Sounds/Ringtone0/script and change the REG_SZ value to av1pr
annoying incoming call delay
Hi,
i have changed the registry script as people say but no difference. And that's no surprise as if you read the script letter by letter "av1pr" means activate device/vibrate/play ringtone/repeat. The original script "apw3r" again means "activate the phone/play rington/wait 3 seconds/repeat". So the 3 seconds delay happens AFTER the phone plays the ringtone the first time.
However, the activation(with activation I mean to wake up the phone from standby) actually happens always on the beginning of the second ring. I have another phone and I have done few tests calling the jade so I am sure of what I am saying.
By the way, I dont know if you noticed but changing the ringtone changes the script back to the original one. But it doesnt really matter given that this tweak doesnt make any difference.
I have to say instead that disabling the skin dialer allowed me to gain 1 second, and now the phone activates just before the second ring. So I believe that the solution should be found somewhere else and not in the script that everyone keeps talking about.
I think I have read that the superrom doesnt have this problem(jade rom development in this section). What did it change in there? why it doesnt show that?
Any help appreciated
Franco
Actually av1pr means activate & vibrate 1 sec & Ring
apw3r means activate & wait 3 sec and play ringtone
I used to get the caller screen and no ring till 3 sec till i changed that.... i know it resets everytime after u change rt but no prob for me cos i don change RT often and sktools has an easy way of changing it
And i need it to vibrate for 1 sec coz ring volume is a bit low in htc phones..
PS: i'm using superrom too
Raghav_K said:
Actually av1pr means activate & vibrate 1 sec & Ring
apw3r means activate & wait 3 sec and play ringtone
I used to get the caller screen and no ring till 3 sec till i changed that.... i know it resets everytime after u change rt but no prob for me cos i don change RT often and sktools has an easy way of changing it
And i need it to vibrate for 1 sec coz ring volume is a bit low in htc phones..
PS: i'm using superrom too
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well, the phone follows the sequence of commands so if it is:
apw3r
the phone will a=activate, then p=play ringtone, w3=wait 3 seconds, r=repeat sequence.
So the 3 seconds delay is after the first time the rt is played.
But I have the same initial delay with both scripts it does p**s me off really!
have you tried to use another phone to call your jade with the superrom? how long does it take to play the tone?
well i have tried and my jade starts vibrating by the time the first ring ends( in the phone from which i'm calling)
can u try the decrease ring delay tweak in the mighty enhancements section of this link and see if it works
http://triton.homeip.net/RegistryChanger/
My own experience is that SuperROM made absolutely no difference at all, neither does hacking the ringtone script (as other have said, the "delay" is after the ringtone has started anyway).
What did make a difference in both the stock & superrom firmware was to disable the HTC dialer skin and revert to the WM6.1 caller id bubble. This reduced the average delay to about 1 second. The other variable is whether the phone is in full suspend mode or awake - my phone certainly takes longer to activate from full suspend mode (full suspend being suspend on battery).
Haven't tried the new HTC stock ROM yet, maybe this improves things? I think it will take some changes to the low-level drivers to improve on the 1 second wake-up with WM6.1 dialer (these may be in the new stock ROM, all of the cooked ROMs use low-level drivers from the original stock ROM so will all be the same in this respect).
Raghav_K said:
well i have tried and my jade starts vibrating by the time the first ring ends( in the phone from which i'm calling)
can u try the decrease ring delay tweak in the mighty enhancements section of this link and see if it works
http://triton.homeip.net/RegistryChanger/
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Absolutely no difference whatsover. Again, the only improvement I can get is when I disable the dialer skin and use the wm default one. Then it rings just before hearing the second tone on the calling line.
To be honest I am not surprised, the registry key that is changed is:
HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\RingPreview\InitVol
which clearly refers to a volume level and not to a time delay...??
Hi,
I just got my jade about a month ago. Im very happy with it except the vibrate feature. there are two option for 3 vibration features.
Vibrate only
Vibrate then ring - vibrate first then stop. later the ringtone start to play
vibrate and ring - vibrate constantly until the ringtone stop to play
Is there any way to configure this vibrate setting so that it can vibrate like nokia phone rather than vibrate constantly?
One more thing i realise that my jade ring quite slow at the beginning although i already set the loudest volume. How to fix this?
thanks
check the valert thread
Too bad the current version of Valert disables the volume hardware buttons.... Would've loved to use it on my Jade...
I posted some links in the valert thread. Its possible to edit the registry to customize the vibration pattern.
^^But that won't let you make a vibration pattern while the ringtone is playing.. This is a problem if you're using long mp3 tracks as your ringtone...
I like how Nokia phones vibrate while ringing or like how Valert works... It doesn't vibrate continually while the ringtone is playing...
For me too-disable my hardware volume buttons when making the phonecall.I remove application.