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Serious TCPMP Video issues on Hermes/TyTN...

Sorry guys, bad news. Sorry if this has already been posted and it has eluded me, but the hermes/TyTN cannot play your Divx/Xvid encoded AVI files in TCPMP!
I've read on some other forums that I am not alone in this area as during TCPMP installation, a pop message makes some mention of the on-board ATI imaging.....whatever. Point is the ATI stuff on the VarioII/TyTN interferes with TCPMP to the point of causing such interference that the interface is 'scrambled' almost like severe 'bad reception' to the point of being totally unuseable. I'm gutted. I've tried most versions of TCPMP includinc 0.71 and 0.72, but to no avail.
I've now tried for the first time other players, like PocketMVP, but no joy.
I was wondering if any TyTN/VarioII/VPA...owners have had a positive experience in this regard?
Specifically with their own Divx or Xvid encoded movie clips or full DVD's converted to such an AVI file.
Any feedback will be greatly appreciated.
P.S. The developers of TCPMP are well aware of this as there are many posts on this topic in their forum but till now no solution.
Has anybody found an alternative player? And for those unfamiliar with this problem, NO Windows Media Player cannot handle Divx/Xvid AVI videos (which IMHO are the best quality video files on a PPC).
mackaby007
MDA VarioII/HTC TyTN
ROM: 1.21.11.3
ROM date: 06/19/06
Radio: 1.05.05.00
Protocol: 32.36.7010.04H

I am just trying VLC for ppc will post findings!

TCPMP working well now on Hermes...RawFrameBuffer mode
faisal.husain said:
I am just trying VLC for ppc will post findings!
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Not to worry. Got our fav player working thanks to some other guys.
See below for link to solution:
http://www.4winmobile.com/viewtopic.php?p=36600#36600

thank you VERY MUCH for that info. i was getting a bit worried that i wouldnt be able to play my videos with my new xda trion. i actually experienced better performance with the GDI video settings vs. the RawFramBuffer mode.

mdajax said:
thank you VERY MUCH for that info. i was getting a bit worried that i wouldnt be able to play my videos with my new xda trion. i actually experienced better performance with the GDI video settings vs. the RawFramBuffer mode.
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Thanks for that mdajax. Do you or anyone else know what the difference is between them?

Just set TCPMP to use Raw FrameBuffer or GDI through options -> video and it plays fine

ok video play but bad quality... and bad sound !!!!

Framebuffer mode outperforms GDI on varioII in TCPMP
mdajax said:
thank you VERY MUCH for that info. i was getting a bit worried that i wouldnt be able to play my videos with my new xda trion. i actually experienced better performance with the GDI video settings vs. the RawFramBuffer mode.
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When I first read this post, I thought little of it until I came across some stuttering on Video playback under GDI settings.
I decided to run a Benchtest under TCPMP in both modes, and on my VarioII, RawFramebuffer mode outperformed GDI mode by minimum of 50%. Additionally, under 'Media Information' of TCPMP, GDI mode played back the Mpeg1 video file at 18 fps compared to 33 fps in framebuffer mode (no stutters either).
It must be differences between the ROMs or other 3rd party Apps that is causing such a great degree of difference, but for now, I'm sticking to RAWFRAMEBUFFER mode. :wink:

atonparis said:
ok video play but bad quality... and bad sound !!!!
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looks and sounds great on mine. what kind of video files are you trying to play? what resolution/bitrate? if you're trying to play like an hr hdtv xvid file...then yea...your phone will have a hard time playing it.
i just use the psp or ipod video convertor to convert to 320x240, 768kbps...and it looks & plays beautifully.

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atonparis said:
ok video play but bad quality... and bad sound !!!!
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looks and sounds great on mine. what kind of video files are you trying to play? what resolution/bitrate? if you're trying to play like an hr hdtv xvid file...then yea...your phone will have a hard time playing it.
i just use the psp or ipod video convertor to convert to 320x240, 768kbps...and it looks & plays beautifully.
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The forementioned file was an MPEG 1 file @320x240 from pocketmovies.net, though usually I encode my own vids using DVDx and Divx Codec 6.0 @320x240 @ 400 or 500kbps and all play flawlessly. Presently though I can't test them coz I haven't received my Transflash card yet!
But hey, if it works for you, more power to ya. The other works better for me. :wink:

It's starts playing fine. But what happenes when you pause video and then play again? Mine is stuffers like hell, only solution is reload videofile....

Yep same here, works just great with video set to rawframebuffer and audio to anything, but after a puse or skip to later in the video audio stutters and the only resolution to it is reloading the file.

Same problem over here.
Even with BT radio off, I have the same scrambled view when selecting Ati.
Raw frame buffer works for video, but then I still have the audio skipping after pause.

mackaby007 said:
mdajax said:
atonparis said:
ok video play but bad quality... and bad sound !!!!
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looks and sounds great on mine. what kind of video files are you trying to play? what resolution/bitrate? if you're trying to play like an hr hdtv xvid file...then yea...your phone will have a hard time playing it.
i just use the psp or ipod video convertor to convert to 320x240, 768kbps...and it looks & plays beautifully.
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The forementioned file was an MPEG 1 file @320x240 from pocketmovies.net, though usually I encode my own vids using DVDx and Divx Codec 6.0 @320x240 @ 400 or 500kbps and all play flawlessly. Presently though I can't test them coz I haven't received my Transflash card yet!
But hey, if it works for you, more power to ya. The other works better for me. :wink:
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those psp/ipod video convertor programs (videora to be exact) convert it to mpeg4 format, using h.264. i've never tried playing an mpeg1 file on my mda or trion, but you should at least test a converted mp4 video file on your device and see how it plays.
edit: i just ran a benchmark of an alicia keys video...hehe, which is mpeg4, h.264, 768kbps...and the test reported an avg. of 27fps.

right now mine works decently with the imate rom with rawframebuffer i can pause and play it (minor hiccup occurs but then its fine) much better than having to reload it every time.

but for the quality ( and use pause) i prefer use WM encoder....

Guys can yo play back an Mpeg2 stream? Every time I try I get an error saying TCMP unsupported. Although I am usin version 0.66!

Guys can yo play back an Mpeg2 stream? Every time I try I get an error saying TCMP unsupported. Although I am usin version 0.66!

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Guys can yo play back an Mpeg2 stream? Every time I try I get an error saying TCMP unsupported. Although I am usin version 0.66!
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It's not supported husain. But WMP10 can play it if the bitrate is not to exessive, but it will most likely be stuttery/jerky. It is after all the DVD format and requires hefty processing power to be smooth. Best bet IMHO is to use an encoder and use Divx or Xvid at whatever bitrate suits your needs. Anything between 500 - 768 kbps will look like DVD quality on a PPC QVGA device @320x240 resolution. :wink:

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Guys can yo play back an Mpeg2 stream? Every time I try I get an error saying TCMP unsupported. Although I am usin version 0.66!
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It's not supported husain. But WMP10 can play it if the bitrate is not to exessive, but it will most likely be stuttery/jerky. It is after all the DVD format and requires hefty processing power to be smooth. Best bet IMHO is to use an encoder and use Divx or Xvid at whatever bitrate suits your needs. Anything between 500 - 768 kbps will look like DVD quality on a PPC QVGA device @320x240 resolution. :wink:
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Thanks m8; have you managed to get rtsp working on tytn? I have tried with various degrees of transcoding with VLC on my PC using VOD (RTSP protocol) which works fine on other pc over wifi around the house; although the video streaming client that comes with my MDA vario 2 does not recognise the stream, Has anyone had any sucess playing any RTSP stream? Thanks in advance!

Sdhc - Divx Prob

dont know if this is connected to me upgrading to an 8 gig card but when running a divx movie from the card im getting a stuttering the sound is running fine but the picture isnt keeping up...tried another file but the same result..is this connected to the new card or is there a better divx player than core player that might be able to keep up???

Did you play this file before and did it play smoothly with your old card? Do you have the same ROM and do you use OmapClock?

You could try using the trial version of Pocket Mechanic to benchmark your old sd card, then your new one.It's not inconceivable that the bigger card might be slightly slower at file IO.

neither of the files would have fitted on the old card both just over 1gig so i cant say if they did but ive also put several smaller pop vids on the card and they play fine its only when i try to play large files i seem to get this

If this 1 GB file is a 2 hour movie you won't be able to play it smoothly. You can check the bitrate, video size and so on and post it here, but I'm pretty sure it's too much to handle for the Artemis.
I reencode all my movies with PocketDivxEncoder, those files are optimzied for pdas and will run even with highest settings for video and audio quality. I suppose the video you have is not a 320x240 movie, that would be one of the reasons it doesn't play very well. My files are 200-500 MB for a 2 hour movie.

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If this 1 GB file is a 2 hour movie you won't be able to play it smoothly. You can check the bitrate, video size and so on and post it here, but I'm pretty sure it's too much to handle for the Artemis.
I reencode all my movies with PocketDivxEncoder, those files are optimzied for pdas and will run even with highest settings for video and audio quality. I suppose the video you have is not a 320x240 movie, that would be one of the reasons it doesn't play very well. My files are 200-500 MB for a 2 hour movie.
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Could you please post up all the settings for that profile?

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If this 1 GB file is a 2 hour movie you won't be able to play it smoothly. You can check the bitrate, video size and so on and post it here, but I'm pretty sure it's too much to handle for the Artemis.
I reencode all my movies with PocketDivxEncoder, those files are optimzied for pdas and will run even with highest settings for video and audio quality. I suppose the video you have is not a 320x240 movie, that would be one of the reasons it doesn't play very well. My files are 200-500 MB for a 2 hour movie.
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exactly.
you can't expect to run a 3000bitrate dvd movie 720x520 on your pocketPC which has a CPU of 200-400 and 64mb ram
get pocketdivxencoder and recode all your movies. if you would have done this in the past already, you could have fit that 2 movies on a 1GB card, hehe.

i encode my movies using a program i cant remember the name of, but i set it to 320x240 res and they are aroud 80mb! get loads on a 1gb SD!

thanks for the advice...used pocket encoder all working fine noe ..i think the prob was the video file was an hd sourced movie so a little bit hi res

STARGATE69 said:
thanks for the advice...used pocket encoder all working fine noe ..i think the prob was the video file was an hd sourced movie so a little bit hi res
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i donno if people agree with me.. but till today i have watched more than 15movies... all are of 700mb full length movies..have never used any encoders.. it used to play damn well.. i have no issues playing full length movies.. its just the right codecs had to be installed to watch any movie..
but i totally agree abt the encoding part of the movies to smaller size ....which will reduce the size.. which is def req when it comes to storage importance..

play movies on xperia without conversion!!

hi
i would just like to know that is there a difference with encoding a movie before watching it on the xperia because i have tried many programs and to be honest are probably a waste of time
with the new coreplayer program, just download a movie from the internet and move it over to the xperia and use coreplayer to watch it, plays perfectly, tried with many movies, no problems, the only waiting time i do i downloading the movie and moving it over
or am i missing something by not converting it??

I don't guess your movies are playing smooth in fullscreen @ very good quality.

umm nope, they perfectly fine as if i was watching the film on the pc , i have 5 movies on my xperia 700mb+ and work to perfection, never gonna use conversion again, waste of time!!!!!
try it out, download the latest coreplayer and play any downloaded movie, u'll be quite suprised!! , full screen playback.. beautiful !!

Is this CorePlayer commercial ?
Yeah it is the best player for non-converted movies. But normal 1CD movie plays at 80-90%, movies with higher bitrate even slower.
I know people who call that watchable, or even perfect. I'm not one of those.

" Is this CorePlayer commercial ?"
yes
their free media program is tcpmp player

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" Is this CorePlayer commercial ?"
yes
their free media program is tcpmp player
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Which - by the way - doesn't get updated anymore. (last time I checked, at least)

thats because the movies you download are already converted. most people who are doing the encoding are converting their dvd to a format that the xperia can play.
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i would just like to know that is there a difference with encoding a movie before watching it on the xperia because i have tried many programs and to be honest are probably a waste of time
with the new coreplayer program, just download a movie from the internet and move it over to the xperia and use coreplayer to watch it, plays perfectly, tried with many movies, no problems, the only waiting time i do i downloading the movie and moving it over
or am i missing something by not converting it??
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any downloaded avi file works on coreplaying including the hd ones

avi is not a real format though it's a container for other formats
like divX or xvid or many others ranging from good to poor codecs
but coreplayer seem to play every one I tried

vegeta2007 said:
with the new coreplayer program, just download a movie from the internet and move it over to the xperia and use coreplayer to watch it, plays perfectly, tried with many movies, no problems, the only waiting time i do i downloading the movie and moving it over
or am i missing something by not converting it??
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hi.
I wouldn't call it perfect, but it is sooo damn near to it. I've just tested two movies and even with lots of action going on coreplayer dropped only few frames (although it was clearly visible). when I've changed quality to medium under preferences/video all the playback is butter smooth and lil' bit lowered quality is still better than waiting for ages to convert a video. btw: I am using qtv it tytn 2 comp. mode. I am so happy that I've bought this app. waiting for next releases..

^x2 but with TCPMP. it would chop out .avi files every 4 secs at high quality (not sure if it was divx or xvid) but if you change the video driver from DirectDraw to Raw FrameBuffer and change the quality from Normal to Low, it plays really smooth without losing too much quality.

... but still - with coreplayer qtv You get full speed almost all the time. high quality ofcourse... it is a shame really, that there is no demo for coreplayer so more people could actualy try it.

So How is the Video Playback?

I've been using the TD2 for almost a week now. Really really happy with it,but I haven't tested any videos yet,though it was one of my major priorities behind buying this phone. Actually I am bit concerned after some reviews of the phone by some websites,they stated the Video playback is not up to the mark(Like-Skipped frames,Sound cracking etc.). If this is true then the large 3.2' screen will make no sense and I would be very SAD. So please vote and input your comments.
BTW-By Video I mean AVI files(either .xvid or .divx encoded) for PC playback(VGA or above quality),please don't say anything about .mp4,3gp and Conversion of videos. Maybe CorePlayer is the option,I don't have it as it's not free.
Thanks in advance.

IME the device on its own barely plays any video formats and doesn't even play them so well. I bought CorePlayer and it plays most things and quite well too. Sometimes you just have to pay for stuff. Shame the UI is a bit ropey though.

convert the video first to smaller resolution..it will be better..and yes coreplayer is my favourite player too..

Without saying anything about certain formats we've been asked not to mention , I have converted some films (they had to be converted, they were DVDs to start with!) and have got to a place where I'm happy, extremely, very slight lip-sync issue, but watchable, and on the 3.2 screen they look great, no issues with Video, just need to get the Audio-Video sync sorted.
BTW-Haven't used an existing files, converted films specifically for TD2 (the ones converted for my XDA Orbit were a bit on the small size due to the screen size.
PS Only use HTC Album to view, WMP doesn't seem to want to play anything I give to it.

I have excellent quality with PocketDivxEncoder to make my movie smaller.
On my TD2/Topaz i use CorePlayer because it's WideScreen.
TCPMP won't run on my phone and WMP doesn't have the codecs.

Ok,so I got one thing-A conversion is a must for higher qualities. But I will not see high qualities/resolution on my TD2,I'll rather choose my 22" HD Dell monitor for that,but I thought I atleast can watch the DVD rips(the popular xvid encoded <=700mb)on my TD2 by Core player or else when I am on the go..haven't had a clear idea about it..anyways thnx for voting.

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Ok,so I got one thing-A conversion is a must for higher qualities. But I will not see high qualities/resolution on my TD2,I'll rather choose my 22" HD Dell monitor for that,but I thought I atleast can watch the DVD rips(the popular xvid encoded <=700mb)on my TD2 by Core player or else when I am on the go..haven't had a clear idea about it..anyways thnx for voting.
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I'm guessing you are looking for a bit more clear answer, so I will try to give you one. The answer is - YES, you can easily watch DVD rips WITHOUT any conversion, on the go, by Coreplayer of course To me personally, any conversion at all is a misunderstanding. Sure, a phone isnt a PC, but if I pay so much for it, I demand that it can handle unconverted videos. And Topaz really does that very well As an example, I can tell you that I watch a lot of my favourite TV shows and series on the go without any compression, I just download my show (which has a resolution practially the same as DVD) and put it on my SD card. As far as You do not want to watch videos with more than 700x... resolution, you dont even have to convert anything. All in all, I'm very satisfied with my Topaz's video playback capabilities

oh and to be even more clear - all <=700MB xvid encoded movies running superb smoothly, WITHOUT any compression

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I'm guessing you are looking for a bit more clear answer, so I will try to give you one. The answer is - YES, you can easily watch DVD rips WITHOUT any conversion, on the go, by Coreplayer of course To me personally, any conversion at all is a misunderstanding. Sure, a phone isnt a PC, but if I pay so much for it, I demand that it can handle unconverted videos. And Topaz really does that very well As an example, I can tell you that I watch a lot of my favourite TV shows and series on the go without any compression, I just download my show (which has a resolution practially the same as DVD) and put it on my SD card. As far as You do not want to watch videos with more than 700x... resolution, you dont even have to convert anything. All in all, I'm very satisfied with my Topaz's video playback capabilities
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Just to be clear, the ripped DVD can't just be a standard file, it has to have been converted first, even if that conversion keeps the resolution and size intact, even Coreplayer can't play vob files.

Coreplayer also doesn't support AC3 audio which is a huge limitation and disappointment This means that any video files with DD are no go.

watched the pilot of Caprica. The file was downloaded for PC viewing. was a Xvid encoded .avi file resoloution 624 x 352 and encoded with 23 fps with a data rate of 133 Kbps (It says 133kbps for audio as well, so I assume that is the total ofr both streams).
Played perfectly on Core player

Thank you guys for voting and commenting. I decided to test the topic by myself. And I am so unlucky to say that I got stunned by it. I copied a .xvid encoded .avi music video file(71mb),24fps,640*352 from my Desktop Pc to the TD2,played it with the CorePlayer 1.30(6213) and the result was TERRIBLE. It just didn't play anything at all. The sound was there but the video lagged all the way. So,what to do now? Huh,I decied that's it,as my major priority was watching video without any conversion has failed and failed so badly,so I am selling it. But except all this I liked it.
Thank you guys,bye.

I think 1.3.2 build 6909 is the current release so maybe the version you are using is a bit old. It should play xVid avis no problem at that resolution. You could alos try the free TCMP from which coreplayer was derived. http://picard.exceed.hu/tcpmp/test/

ithehappy said:
Thank you guys for voting and commenting. I decided to test the topic by myself. And I am so unlucky to say that I got stunned by it. I copied a .xvid encoded .avi music video file(71mb),24fps,640*352 from my Desktop Pc to the TD2,played it with the CorePlayer 1.30(6213) and the result was TERRIBLE. It just didn't play anything at all. The sound was there but the video lagged all the way. So,what to do now? Huh,I decied that's it,as my major priority was watching video without any conversion has failed and failed so badly,so I am selling it. But except all this I liked it.
Thank you guys,bye.
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What was the data rate? My version of Core is older (1.25) and the same res file flew for me. It was a 700MB file for 90 odd minutes of video.

I tried two videos(music),here are the detail:
The First one,(a Taylor Swift video),72mb
The details from my PC- Time-4 mins 37 secs,Resolution 640*352,Audio format-Lame MP3,Audio Bit rate-192kbps and Video Frame rate-23fps/sec, Video Date rate-2099kbps, Video Sample size-24bits, Video compression-FFDS
Now when I tried to play that by Core Player 1.30 on my TD2,it didn't run at all,
Now the details of the Video by Core Player-
Video- AVC aka H.264,Codec-Core AVC and I played it for first 30 seconds and it played 67 frames and Dropped 985 frames,the rate was 1.527
Now the second music video,98.6mb
Resolution-512*384,Runtime-18 mins 57 seconds, Frame rate-23fps/sec,Data rate-710kbps,Video sample size-24bits,Video compression-XVID
Now Core player played this video well,very well infact,the Details by Core player,
Video-MPEG4,Codec-Core ASP,I watched it for first 6 mins and it played 744 frames and dropped 7,Played FPS-23.88
Thanks

I'm guessing that You copied your file to the memory card. If so, did You install SDTuneUp drivers? It looks like they are a must have.

Sir,I don't know what is SD tune up driver and where to install from. BTW-I don't have a memory card on my TD2,it didn't come out of the box and so lazy to buy a seperate one.

hi, I am wondering how the performance is watching football (soccer) highlights from youtube or www.footytube.com , does anyone have any ideas? I have tried this on sony Ericsson w995 and the ball is invisible :s

I know it has been mentioned before but converting using he HTC Touch HD ‘Encoder’ program works well using HTC Album playback on my stock ROM TD2 playing back from the SD Card.
I understand that some of you are resistant to converting files and do not want to go this route but I thought it might help some of those reading this thread that smooth HQ playback from the SD card is absolutely possible without paying any money if you spend the time converting files on a PC (or Mac).
Tony

Movies on HTC HD2

Anyone know where we can download free movies/ put movies on the htc hd2? I'm tired of watching transformers.

considering the discussion of illegal downloads is against the tos...why not use google?

movies
if you go to slysoft.com download there clone mobile dvd its free for 21 days (use microsoft zune mp4 works well) i have about 40 hrs converted on my pc and just download onto the sd card when i want one

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Anyone know where we can download free movies/ put movies on the htc hd2? I'm tired of watching transformers.
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If you have a decent movie player (like CorePlayer) you can actually watch regular PC movies on the HD2 without needing to re-encode them.
I watch DiVX movies on mine all the time.

Try Ojos Soft Video Converter and convert regular DVD's in MP4

not free...but the Blockbuster app does have some pretty cheap downloads. Or you could always rip your own dvds and transfer them to your SD card

Movies on your HTC HD2
You won't need to pay for a converter. I've been using "Videora" and "Super" with some success. I have not been able to play an avi file on the HD2. However it will play MP4. Windows Media Player Mobile doesn't seem to let you watch anything in full screen (big surprise). I'm assuming you already know how to rip your legally owned content into a vob file at least. I used Videora and it does a fantastic job with some files like avi and mpg but the audio is not very good. I can't seem to solve that problem no matter what settings I use. Super will work how ever I can't find the proper settings so that the movie doesn't look squished on the HTC HD2 screen. Some of the movies I had converted for my iPod touch work perfectly on my HTC HD2. Some didn't. I hope this helps you.

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You won't need to pay for a converter. I've been using "Videora" and "Super" with some success. I have not been able to play an avi file on the HD2. However it will play MP4. Windows Media Player Mobile doesn't seem to let you watch anything in full screen (big surprise). I'm assuming you already know how to rip your legally owned content into a vob file at least. I used Videora and it does a fantastic job with some files like avi and mpg but the audio is not very good. I can't seem to solve that problem no matter what settings I use. Super will work how ever I can't find the proper settings so that the movie doesn't look squished on the HTC HD2 screen. Some of the movies I had converted for my iPod touch work perfectly on my HTC HD2. Some didn't. I hope this helps you.
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Can you tell me the settings you are using on videora, i have been playing with it, but i keep getting stuttering audio and video, tho video is not as bad.I have the latest version that says it is for the hd2 but the hd2 isnt listed in the drop down box.

try Aimersoft Video Converter. It seems to convert my dvds without a problem. I have my bitrate around 1500 so my videos come out around 1.2gb a movie. Or you can try Super C. That's free as well.

CorePlayer will play any "regular" avi file (DivX or Xdiv) the best.
If movie sound is encoded with AC3 then use TCPMP player.
HTH

and how can I get the CorePlayer ?

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Coreplayer is not a free program you have to pay for it. http://coreplayer.com/

[highlight]Mod Edit: No discussion about warez allowed.[/highlight]

The OP is clearly requesting copyrighted materials. You have all provided good options and since he is breaking the rules by asking for paid material to be freely obtained, I will go ahead and close this thread.
@OP,
Consider this a first warning.
@tuppaac,
I have edited your post. PM me if you would like to know why.