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Full WM6 or 6.1 on Shift

Everyone,
This is one of my first posts. I have been reading the threads on this and cannot make heads or tails of what's going on. I have a Shift for eval purposes and after playing around with it, I think it's a pretty amazing device. HTC has crippled the phone capability in the US versions because they haven't certified it for voice use with the FCC yet. If we can access "file explorer" and some of the other features of WM6, I think a lot can be done to modify it or even to use it for voice. Has anybody made any headway as far as a new ROM that enables all of this functionality?

No
nobody has yet developed the crack. The reason is because nobody has the machine yet. Can u comment a bit about the battery life. Is it very disappointing?

well, now that several people actually have the device in-hand, could somebody please confirm that the ability to expose full WM6 exists as described by Pawel062:
Pawel062 said:
hmm dont really understand the last part about snapvue. the snapvue for athena is snapvue from shift with a small mod to re enable the softkeys and start menu. it will work on shift and also re enable the soft keys and start menu making the shift's wm6 "Full" again
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This is the only thing holding me back from ordering one myself!

This is the only thing holding me back from ordering one myself!
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Me too!
So Any luck running/installing any other programs on SnapVue?
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah

what about athena projects rom? that rom is actually from shift right?

snapvue is actually a today plugin pretty much. it hides the soft keys and start menu of the original wm6. then from the plugin u have access to messaging, settings, and other basic stuff.
this is ment so u use vista but with only 2hrs max battery on vista many people would like to use the less power hungry wm6. i am working with paul from modaco.com on re enabling the full wm6 by putting a modded dll that will unhide the start menu. after that ull be able to get into file explorer and get a reg editor to re enable the soft keys.
heres the challlenge:
--no usb port like regular htc phones to sync the shift and get the dll on their. only usb host
--no bluetooth in snapvue/wm6 side
--no wifi in snapvue/wm6 side
--no ir in wm6 side
--vista device central doesnt see the wm6 side
--cant save files from email to windows folder
and i cant remember now the other blockades. i will continue working on it though.

Seems like that there is some kind of file transfer, it uses it when you install a certificate in shift control center, but how to crack it open or replicate the process for other files, and then execute the file on snapvue site ....
Think its time for a "taskforce thred" where all info is posted so everyone can work on it.

Sounds a lot more difficult then I first imagined....
(No BT??? OMG! had no idea!)
Sounds like I have to be a bit more patient...
This doesnot sound like it´s gonna be solved in a couple of days....
It´s great that you´re workin on it guys!
greetz,
Pfeffa-rah

thanks Pawel062, I appreciate your efforts in trying to find a way to get this to work!

Just saw if you edit a contact and then try to attach a picture, you can browse the WM6 folders.
Unfortunately you can only see the pictures, because it's using the picture manager from HTC..

Silly thought: The miniUSB connector on the dongle formally is only meant to provide additional power to devices that otherwise would not be detected (External Harddrives etc). Would it be a silly thought to assume that the same miniUSB port could somehow allow us to access the SnapVue part? The miniUSB port is located at the back next to the cable leading back to the Shift.

I hadn't even noticed that.
I just plugged mine in for the first time, the only drivers Vista installs are for a Generic USB Hub and a USB to Ethernet Adaptor. There doesn't seem to be anything else hidden in there.

If anyone needs anything tested on a shift dont hesitate to ask. Full WM6 functionality would be greatly appreciated and would turn snapview from a gimick into a usefull tool.

OK so thanks to Michael who commented on Browsing using Contacts and Pictures, I managed to gain access to the Windows Mobile File Explorer and other software on the device.
First step is to create a new email.
From the menu Insert - Picture.
Using the browse capability go to the Windows folder
Locate Start Menu and press Ctrl C
Browse to Settings
Press Ctrl V
Go to Snapvue homescreen and goto Settings
Start Menu will be visible and you can then access File Explorer etc.
Hope this helps....

Excellent. I have sent myself the executable of PHM.lu's regedit, saved it into my documents, and am now able to access and edit the registry!

Wiz said:
Excellent. I have sent myself the executable of PHM.lu's regedit, saved it into my documents, and am now able to access and edit the registry!
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Great! Any possibilty to enable blocked things like office or is it not installed?

Also in my limited investigations, I have managed to almost access Windows Vista from the Windows Mobile side.
Using Resco's Explorer with its Network Access functionality, I performed the following.
Under Windows Vista, run the ShagCtrl application.
Install a Certificate, this can be any file you like.
You will see the progress bar appear and drop up and down. If you listen you will hear the sound of a new device being added.
Do NOT click OK when prompted as this will remove the device.
If you load up Device manager, you will see an "NDIS shared Internet connection" (or something similar) appear under network connections.
If you open CMD and run an IPConfig, you will see that this connection has an IP Address of 192.168.160.102 and a gateway and DHCP server of 192.168.160.1.
From the Windows Mobile side, load Resco Explorer and goto Menu - File - Network - Map Drive
In the dialog that appears, you should see Computers near Me (or similar) and under here should be your Vista machine.
If you share a drive, or select the Vista computer and put \c$ on the end, it should try to connect.
This is as far as it gets me so far. Was a late one, but I couldnt get it to actually connect.
So close yet so far.
In Addition, if you try to run a cab file it will error. This is because HTC have remove the Open command file association for Cab files.
Using your favourite WM registry editor goto HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Cabfile\Shell\Open\command\.
Under Default type
wceload.exe "%1" /nodelete
cab files will now install correctly.
Hope this helps...

Hi,
I ama anew user of Shift. I am did not understand clearly what did you mean about full WM6 or 6.1. Knows somebody how can we have a full WM6 on it? Pls help me I really need a full WM6 system also.
Thx.

Ok, so I've accessed the Start menu using Vs1979s instructions, and I've found that Windows Live messenger is on the device and works ok. I'd like to try and install Opera, but I need a registry editor that isn't a CAB file in order to add back in the registry key to support CAB files - can someone point me in the direction of one?
Thanks,
Dave

Vs1979 said:
Also in my limited investigations, I have managed to almost access Windows Vista from the Windows Mobile side.
Using Resco's Explorer with its Network Access functionality, I performed the following.
Under Windows Vista, run the ShagCtrl application.
Install a Certificate, this can be any file you like.
You will see the progress bar appear and drop up and down. If you listen you will hear the sound of a new device being added.
Do NOT click OK when prompted as this will remove the device.
If you load up Device manager, you will see an "NDIS shared Internet connection" (or something similar) appear under network connections.
If you open CMD and run an IPConfig, you will see that this connection has an IP Address of 192.168.160.102 and a gateway and DHCP server of 192.168.160.1.
From the Windows Mobile side, load Resco Explorer and goto Menu - File - Network - Map Drive
In the dialog that appears, you should see Computers near Me (or similar) and under here should be your Vista machine.
If you share a drive, or select the Vista computer and put \c$ on the end, it should try to connect.
This is as far as it gets me so far. Was a late one, but I couldnt get it to actually connect.
So close yet so far.
In Addition, if you try to run a cab file it will error. This is because HTC have remove the Open command file association for Cab files.
Using your favourite WM registry editor goto HKEY_CLASSES_ROOT\Cabfile\Shell\Open\command\.
Under Default type
wceload.exe "%1" /nodelete
cab files will now install correctly.
Hope this helps...
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How did you load Resco Explorer on Snapvue?

cant find an app HELP

im looking for an app i have seen it before but cant seem to find it to download it.
its were it lets me be able to connect to my computer thru wifi so that i can transfer files to and from my comp over wifi
does anyone know what the name of it is or were i can download it from

i guess no one knows which app it is that im talking about

I am guessing it is like a network explorer type program.
However Mocha VNC allows you to connect to your computer anywhere through WiFi or Data Connection (it is a remote desktop application) and it will allow you to do File Transfers Back and Forth.
It has a free trial and works on windows mobile so you could give it a try.

yeah thats pretty much what im looking for is to be able to transfer songs to and from my computer to my phone with out having to take out my memory card or have to plug in my phone... thanks

ok so either i dont know what im doing and am a complete dumbass or this **** isnt working can any one give me a hand

Try this. I use this with HTC Touch Elf and it works perfect. This is a full version - Found it on this site - However, can't remember who innitialy posted otherwise I would give credit. Works to view files over wifi connection, transfer files. I listen to my music with this and watch videos from computer on my device. Transfer speeds are not bad but not great. Not to hard to use. Just make folders on your computer as shared folders and then use this program to seach them on your network and connect to them. You only have to connect once and then use file explorer - go to network and into the network folders each time after.
Use Copy and paste to transfer files from desktop to your device

oh ok cool cool thanks let me see if it will work

i tried to install it on my phone but after i did the install i cant find it any were to open it

kermit5327 said:
i tried to install it on my phone but after i did the install i cant find it any were to open it
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Easy. Start, Settings, connections, Network plugin
Enjoy

i dont have a network plugin option all i have beam, bluetooth, connections csd line type, gprs setting, networkcards, usb to pc, wireless LAN

I don't know what to say. Did it install properly?
I had a difficult time finding it as well as I didn't expect it to go there. Did you try doing a search on your device for it. Also, search using file explorer in Program Files to see if it is there. It has got to be somewhere, just have to find it. It will be worth it as it should work perfectly for what you need.

well im getting ready to go through my phone with file explore on my comp to see if i can find it but i havent been able to so far

hell yeah i got it it wound up going into my windows folder on my phone
thanks so much

kermit5327 said:
hell yeah i got it it wound up going into my windows folder on my phone
thanks so much
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If you use IFONZ or ultimate launch or throttle launcher I would create a shortcut launcher Icon so that you don't always have to go into your window folder. I have a shortcut on my phone to it using ultimate Launch. That way if I want to brows other peoples shared folders while using their wifi connection< I can just click easily and search for their shared folders. works nice.

heck yeah thanks man my only thing now is that every time that i try to back to the previous folder it wont let me i have to exit out and start over.

kermit5327 said:
heck yeah thanks man my only thing now is that every time that i try to back to the previous folder it wont let me i have to exit out and start over.
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it shouldnt be doing that. it doesnt for me. did you try a soft reset after installing. might help it run properly

yeah i did the soft reset now my router is being a pain. man this crap really suck i just cant seem to get anything to go my way

Browse "Windows folder" slow, from WM7 Synch Center

Hi,
Hd2 is fantastic fast... But browsing "Windows folder" from WM7 Synchronization Center via USB is so slow!
Does somebody know a way to speed up the this "windows folder" browsing.
I did not find a way to fix this in xda or Google. May be i missed it.
Using explorer or Resco explorer from Hd2 is ok, no slowdown.
Thanks in advance.

I can't even browse the Windows folder from Win7, it freezes up the explorer window, my computer and the phone until I unplug the USB cable. Very strange.

For me in W7 I can't even get to the Windows folder, it's hidden even with hidden files and system folders set as shown.
To answer, it just takes very long to enumerate the 10'000+ files in the windows folder with the rather slow activesync protocol.

@kilrah - in folder options there are two tick boxes that control visibility.you need to both tick show hidden files and folders, and also a few entries further down untick hide protected operating system files.
plus don't forget to apply settings to all folders.
@OP its always been slow over active sync.personally if I'm dealing with files in windows I copy them to sd with resco on the phone and only then browser the sd from the pc.

samsamuel said:
@kilrah - in folder options there are two tick boxes that control visibility.you need to both tick show hidden files and folders, and also a few entries further down untick hide protected operating system files.
plus don't forget to apply settings to all folders.
@OP its always been slow over active sync.personally if I'm dealing with files in windows I copy them to sd with resco on the phone and only then browser the sd from the pc.
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Thanks for your suggestions, but does somebody knows a way to realy speed up browse of "Windows folder" from WM7 explorer?

I dont think there is a way to "speed" it up through sync center. Even browsing the directory from your phone itself takes moment to populate all of the files in there.
First time I loaded that dir from my old old phone I thought it was frozen too but after a few minutes everything came up lol.

Drag n drop via Zune

I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but when I connect my phone to the PC, Zune sees it and it looks like everything is Ok. I just can't drag and drop files from my music folder to the phone (via the small phone icon on the bottom left corner). Also, should I be able to see my SD card under my computer? Because it's not there.
I've tried three different rooms and two different computers all with the same outcome

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I don't know what I'm doing wrong, but when I connect my phone to the PC, Zune sees it and it looks like everything is Ok. I just can't drag and drop files from my music folder to the phone (via the small phone icon on the bottom left corner). Also, should I be able to see my SD card under my computer? Because it's not there.
I've tried three different rooms and two different computers all with the same outcome
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just right click the albums you want on the phone and select sync to phone.

rwholden said:
just right click the albums you want on the phone and select sync to phone.
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in zune he means
and you wont see your SD card in my computer, at least not in any meaning of the word you would be used to
there is a way of enabling this via a reg hack on the PC you are connecing to, but note that it does not give you access to the WP7 files, you will need WPDM for that
http://www.mobilityminded.com/10959/how-to-use-your-windows-phone-7-device-as-a-portable-usb-drive
http://www.touchxperience.com/

dazza9075 said:
in zune he means
and you wont see your SD card in my computer, at least not in any meaning of the word you would be used to
there is a way of enabling this via a reg hack on the PC you are connecing to, but note that it does not give you access to the WP7 files, you will need WPDM for that
http://www.mobilityminded.com/10959/how-to-use-your-windows-phone-7-device-as-a-portable-usb-drive
http://www.touchxperience.com/
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Your Right, the issue is with Drag N Drop within Zune.
Thank you for the pointers

Dr Nicky said:
Your Right, the issue is with Drag N Drop within Zune.
Thank you for the pointers
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i was talking about Zune as well... i never use drag and drop in zune, i find its always easier n zune to right click and sync to phone...

Windows Explorer starting location?

In the taskbar if you hold shift and right click on the explorer icon and hit properties, you can change the "Target" field to wherever you want to start the explorer when you click on it. On windows 7 you had to change something else to change it, but with that you could start it in Computer (My Computer). With windows 8, you just type in the folder location, and I cannot get it to start at Computer. Does anyone know how?

JihadSquad said:
In the taskbar if you hold shift and right click on the explorer icon and hit properties, you can change the "Target" field to wherever you want to start the explorer when you click on it. On windows 7 you had to change something else to change it, but with that you could start it in Computer (My Computer). With windows 8, you just type in the folder location, and I cannot get it to start at Computer. Does anyone know how?
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Try this. It works for me
%windir%\explorer.exe /e,::{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}

Messerwurm said:
Try this. It works for me
%windir%\explorer.exe /e,::{20D04FE0-3AEA-1069-A2D8-08002B30309D}
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Thanks. That looks like what I did in windows 7, didn't know I could do it in 8 because it just had folder locations.

JihadSquad said:
Thanks. That looks like what I did in windows 7, didn't know I could do it in 8 because it just had folder locations.
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You're welcome