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ringtone programs...

Hi,
I just wanted to have some special ringtones for some contacts or groups...
But so far, I wasn't lucky:
Caller-ID: slow, often didn't show the correct number, lots of compatibilty troubles
RingtoneX: slowed down my device even more than Caller-ID. And it doesn't recognize the ringtone directory, which I moved to \Storage\Rings. If I set the ringtone folder in RingtoneX to this path, it copies the used files to \Windows\Rings - which is slow, useless, and clutters my valuable main memory.
PhonExt: didn't work at all. I could set the ringtones just fine, but they're not used if a call comes in. And it only supports WAV.
Is there any other program I could try? Or are there ways to work around the named troubles?
Bye,
Mirko

Yeah I've been lloking for a good ringtone app as well. Finally stuck with IA CallerID for the same issues you mentioned. Haven't been experiencing a lot of trouble with it though, my tones are also in \Storage\Rings and I have small animated GIFS for groups. Also I only setup the people who ring me the most not all 400+ contacts.

You're not alone. I had hunt and found that IA is the only one that works(buggy).
The caller ID program is lacking somewhat important features such as assigning ringtones by category.

Can you try whether this works for you?
I simply modifiy the registry entry for the ringtone when a call comes in.
Surprisingly this worked for me - I'd have expected the system's call popup to read this entry before I get control...
Nontheless, I'd like to know if I'm just lucky, or if it works generally...
The program interface is a mixture of PhoneExt and RingtoneX.
Like PhoneExt, it must be running to work (i.e. put a link in autostart folder if you want it permanent), there are category ringtones with priorities, and there's a tray icon with popup menu.
Like RingtoneX, you can set ringtones for both groups and contacts.
Currently, the contacts are only read at program launch, so you have to restart it to recognize modifications to the contacts.
In the contacts list, the used catecory ringtone is shown, if no contact ringtone is set. You can tell whether it's a contact ringtone by the "X" (remove) button - it's inactive if the ringtone's received from the categories.
There might be problems with huge contact databases, since I create a number -> ringtone map for performance reasons (searching the number in the contact database would be far too slow, esp. since numbers can appear in different variations, which I unify...).
Another thing to notice: I list all files in the ringtone folder - no matter if they're valid ringtones or not.
Oops: Last not least: The installation. Just copy the contained file somewhere on your PPC and execute it there. You should create a new folder for it, since contacts.dat and categories.dat will be created in the directory where the program file is located.
btw: Except for the modified ringtone entry, there are no modifications to the system, i.e. after exiting the program, all will be like it was before...

Hi !
I've made an app to display picture of contacts to dial, and I'm interested in how you get the incoming call notification (I'd like to make my own calledID). So I you can share source or point me some sites where to find info, ...
I hope my app will be available soon.
Regards,
Olivier.

has anybody tried Mort's application?

Another try...
I'm using lineSetAppPriority now, which should ensure my tools can set the ringtone before the default popup appears. Sadly, on my device it's completely ignored. But maybe it works on other devices - or has somebody here experience with lineSetAppPriority?
If you copy the included mortsms.dll to the \Windows directory, customized SMS signals should work, too.
Programmers: If you create a registry key with <window title>=<window handle> (as DWord) in HKLM\Software\Mort\SMSNotify\Windows, you'll receive a WM_COPYDATA with a string containing "SMS\n<sender>\n<text>" whenever an SMS comes in...

Mort
I've installed MortRing 0.2 on my device (haven't set ringtones yet) it uses CallerID Picture and MortRing ringtone so it works!!! Now I have to find a way to uninstall CallerID without a hard reset. Thanks.

The sms function is not working on my mda compact

sebi112 said:
The sms function is not working on my mda compact
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Er, right...
To active the mortsms.dll, you either have to do the following:
1. Show "Messaging" and close it again (real close, i.e. Storage - Running programs or any "Close button replacement" like PocketPlus).
2. Copy mortsms.dll to \Windows
3. (Re)start MortRing
Or put the DLL in the \Windows directory, do a soft reset, and launch MortRing...

Mort, your program really rocks! Thanks alot dude 8)
but one thing: when i get a missed call, it says 2 missed calls (one with the number, and the other with UNKNOWN number)!!
otherwise, everyting is COoOoOoOoOoOoOoOoL :lol: thanks

Does even not work. ringtones ok. sms does not work

Here's a version with installer, maybe it fixes the SMS problem (I think the DLL doesn't get registered correctly without installer...). Restarting "Messaging" or a soft reset might still be necessary after installation, though...
It also creates a Startup entry.
@ezzkht: That might be a follow-up error from the lineSetAppPriority problems. I forward the call informations to the next priority program (usually Windows' call popup). If the priority is ignored, I do that after it already got it... But I've got no idea why the number gets lost...

Here's a variation without lineSetAppPriority. Maybe it helps with the "unknown" entry in the call history...

Ringtones works, sms works Thanks, Mort!

Here's a minor update. On some devices, the mortsms.dll did not work. It seems like ole32.dll isn't preinstalled on all devices, but I was able not to require it anymore...
Currently, lineSetAppPriority is removed completely, as it doesn't seem to have any positive effects. Sadly, due to this, it doesn't work everywhere - at least I know of one user with an MDA II and a quite a lot of contacts (about 500), where it doesn't work. I don't know whether it's because of the amount of contacts or the device differences.
(SMS notifications should work everywhere, though)

after a test it plays the sms ringtone that i selecet for one adressentrybut after a while the standat sms tone is gone and for all incomming sms the selecet for the entry is played

cooooooooool, now it works well 8)
thanks Mort :wink:

Now the SMS tone is reset a second after the notifacation and on program exist, so the default tone won't be overridden with the recently used.
Additionally, there are three pseudo categories: *other contacts*, *not in contacts*, and *number supressed*.

Mort!!!! would like to thank you again for this application works very well on my imate JAM! I'm really happy with it!!! Now I have more RAM to play with as Caller ID has been removed! Woooohoooo! Respect! :lol:

Adding number to existing contact ?

When you take a call from a number you dont have but want to add it, is there anyway to add it to an existing contact rather than have to create a new one and then copy paste ?
I have had more than one person who has phoned me from work or home and I have their mobile number so I then wanted to add this other number to their contact. The only way I can seem to do it is to copy the number when adding to contacts. You can only press ok then so it creates an unknown contact. Then you have to go into the persons details and paste the number and then delete the unknown number.
There must be a way to add a number to an existing contact right ?

knowsleyroader said:
There must be a way to add a number to an existing contact right ?
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Be nice to have the good old Nokia "Add to Contact" too, instead of just the "Save" that we have...
You can do it if you tap+hold, then select the "Send Text Message" and copy it from the Message Editor's To: line with another click+hold. When you close the message it not saved it if it's empty, so you don't have to delete it from drafts. Paste into the existing contact and voila... There you are, task done, but still thinking what a faff and why isn't there a "Save to Contact" context menu item...
Dox.

Quite a ridiculous oversight. Its not the end of the world, but not what you would expect from this kind of phone.
Just one good reason for someone with a poxy phone to laugh at you.
" You can stream online radio and connect to your home network, but you cant copy a number into an existing contact ? " ROFLMAO !

Yes, that and having to explain that they need to SMS the details to you rather than sending the contacts business card over SMS as your wizzbang all singing all dancing super phone can't handle SMS business cards...
Out of interest, is the Add to Contact issue the same on the Universal?
Dox

Dox said:
Out of interest, is the Add to Contact issue the same on the Universal?
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i guess this issue conerns overall Windows Mobile platform. let's tell the truth - devices such as wizard or universal are not the best as *phones*. i'd say, that most of 'classic' mobiles are far better in various terms over windows mobile based devices (i.e. cell broadcast handling, profile switching, add to contact issue, etc..). basically there's still lot of work to do for microsoft engineers in that matter. however as PDA it's one of the best if not the best of all platforms right now. so using pda+phone combined devices is always some kind of compromise - there are really stunning pda features but still some issues as a phone as well. personally, i'm quite happy of using such combination and i can handle some of these compromises..

Radio streaming
How do you stream radio then ?
What channels can you get ?
Sorry it's a bit off topic. :?

Re: Radio streaming
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How do you stream radio then ?
What channels can you get ?
Sorry it's a bit off topic. :?
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Get Resco Radio or there are some websites you can click on links to streaming broadcasts although that can sometimes be a bit more problematic and fiddley. Redco works gr8 though.
Out of interest is there any easy way to import loads if not all availabe online radio into Resco Radio as its a joy to use but maybe a bit limited in stations considering whats out there.

Whats a god way about going about per contact ringtones?

I'm searching now, but phoneext has been the only thing I found, and I never really liked it since it took over a lot of the functions of the phone.

mortring
mortring www.sto-helit.de
Works for SMS messages also. The author mentions it can't handle large contact databases. He doesn't give a specific number but it works fine with my contact list 600+ contacts. Also allows you to assign tones by contact category (my main use since this is far easier than individual tones). BTW you should realize that in your contacts edit view you can assign a ringtone to the contact along with their photo.
- Richard

haha, dang, I didn't realize that was there in the per contact edit.
Thanks!

I used Photo Contacts PRO (Pocket PC Edition) by PocketX Software Inc.
Editing the contacts info seems to be bugged as far as updating phone numbers and other info. At least on my phone. However everything else on it works great. You can select a different ring tone for each contact. Also allows you to set default ringtone for users not in your contact list. Also has a better appointment interface and several other goodies. I highly recommend.

You can do this without the need for third-party apps... right from within your Contacts applet. Just edit the contact and assign a ring tone to him/her from the available drop down.

contacts problem

i buy HTC TOUCH HD and i snyc contacts with outlook but in my phone they are sort by last name i use address book by first name in nokia and i want to have it here how to sort contacts by first name
please help
why this phone need so much time to recive call
first screen is on, then after the sec vibrate is on, then after that ringtone, and when i scroll to answer almost second after i can hear other party

Shubaroo contact changer. Haven't tested myself on Touch HD, but worked well with my previous WM6 device.
http://www.shubaroo.com/index.php?module=contact
Download 'HD tweak' to tweak the registry settings for shorter delay before phone rings etc.

pasko1234 said:
i buy HTC TOUCH HD and i snyc contacts with outlook but in my phone they are sort by last name i use address book by first name in nokia and i want to have it here how to sort contacts by first name
please help
why this phone need so much time to recive call
first screen is on, then after the sec vibrate is on, then after that ringtone, and when i scroll to answer almost second after i can hear other party
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to sort using "firstname, last name" FOR ALL CONTACTS you would need to do so in Desktop's Outlook. i dont' think mobile outlook (aka contacts) have this option, unless you want to do ONE BY ONE. I haven't tried this, because I always use "last name, first name"
as for the delay in answering call, the previous poster is right, install HD Tweak, and you can modify the delay in answer calls. it works quite well. also the slider to answer/ignore the call is a little buggy, it lags when you try to slide while the phone is ringing. i would suggest S2U2's slider, it is very lean and fast.

This how you do it to be First Last name however it is quite boring because you have to do it to each entry in your contacts list on your HD.
1- On your touchFlo3D People tab select “All People”
2- The first contact well be highlighted in green hit “Menu” then “Edit”
3- Change the “File as” entry to be First Last name.
Now the contact item will be stored and listed as First Last name.
You can see why I said it is boring because you have to do it for your contacts one by one.
I hope this is what you wanted

amuneer said:
Shubaroo contact changer. Haven't tested myself on Touch HD, but worked well with my previous WM6 device.
http://www.shubaroo.com/index.php?module=contact
Download 'HD tweak' to tweak the registry settings for shorter delay before phone rings etc.
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I tried the contact changer, it doesn't work on blackstone....

I have a question...how can i add contacst from my pc,originally from nokia the are all .vcf and i dont know how to put it on my blackstone..please can u help me? thanks a lot

its so hard to answer me???

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its so hard to answer me???
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the answer was written in previous posts.
outlook can do that

Hi - I've only had the HD a few weeks and of all the things I've seen on this forum, the only really niggling thing I've found with the standard install on my HD is the contacts issue mentioned in this thread. I'm sync-ing all my calendar, mail and contacts with Lotus Notes (using Lotus Notes Traveller). In Lotus Notes I have got all the contacts entered with their first names and last names, but then in the options I have selected "firstname lastname" as the view style. I am amazed that Windows mobile doesn't have this option?
If I WERE to go through every single contact entry and change the "file as" to the right format, would this synchronise back to Lotus Notes and cause any problems? Or is it just a setting on the device itself? Is there no global device setting to change the view style?

homola said:
its so hard to answer me???
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I made a post about this yesterday.

I have the same frustration and created my own program to fix the contacts, even allowing for your own custom formats and using the Company Name field. I hope you find it helpful!
http://wargolet.com/wm6/

Blackstone ringtones options

Hi ,
my problem is that i cant find how can i assign a ringtone to a group .
in that matter , where can i control the group and its features ?
does HTC HD have something or i have to install some app ?
Thanks !

you can install 3rd party application like "VipRingTone"

i have to install application ?
there is no built in from HTC ?

I think you only can assign either a default or individual ring tones.
There is no group/category option that I know of as standard.
I used to use Contacts Pro to assign different categories a ring tone (like work colleagues) and also have individual ring tones to overide the categories one.
Unfortunately, the Contacts Pro does not work on my HD.

Use 'VipRingTone'.
This applications loops through your contacts and changes the ringtone for the contacts which matches the selected group.
So no application runs on the background and uses any resources.
Works great.

idandush said:
i have to install application ?
there is no built in from HTC ?
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yeah! what is the problem? your hd has a lot of memory, don't be afraid
afaik, is wmm fault. i never had that option on my previous devices and i always had to install an application to do the job

Vanstra said:
Use 'VipRingTone'.
This applications loops through your contacts and changes the ringtone for the contacts which matches the selected group.
So no application runs on the background and uses any resources.
Works great.
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Hey, good suggestion - that I will try.
Thanks, D.

Vanstra said:
Use 'VipRingTone'.
This applications loops through your contacts and changes the ringtone for the contacts which matches the selected group.
So no application runs on the background and uses any resources.
Works great.
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Hi
BIG THANKS - this works well (if a little slow).
That's a great program to assign ring tones to categories.
The only thing it does not do which Contacts Pro did was assign a ring tone for "unknown" callers where the number does not come through. But, of course, that is because this program works on the known callers in Outlook.
A great find - THANKS, D.