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is there a way to rescue my two month old mda ??? its defo water damaged but had a good drying out before i sent it to tmobile for examination who sent it back saying sticker under sim shows water damage thanks for wasting our time we didnae even open it up .. sometime when plugged into charger the red light comes on could this be that internal cmos battery is kaput any suggestions i cant find the pdf to open it

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(My ENGLISH may not be good enough)
I had slept while I was taking a bath. My mda compact 2 had spent more than 15 min under water (probably best result as for XDA ).
When a had been awaken - the diod was slighty flashing, but there had been no other signs of life.
Here is what I did (or had done) and it (had) worked:
I:
1. removed battery
2. dried the phone with towel
3. searched the net for info
4 used a hairdryier to dry the PPC (not recommended by some authors if you can follow the next steps immidiatly ;exept the fith step of course
5. had a good night sleep
6. went to shop to buy T6 torx screwdriver - to disasseble the PPC
7. disassembled the xda according to the manual found on the forum
8. here is a terrrible step; put the MAIN BOARD into a demineralised water for
15 min ( remember to shake it very often)
9. put it into 96% ETANOL (bought at "alcohol site" in a supermarket) for 2
hours (shaking it from time to time)
10. dried the main bord and OTHER parts of the MDA for 1 day (sun and
fresh air) To REMEMBER: it is considered to be a basic error to put the battery to the xda too early).
11. Put the battery back into the phone - it didn't work - that was a nightmare
12. Waited 1 day and put the battery into the phone again - it didn't work again
13. Dissasebled the phone and brushed carefully the mainboard with the soft toothbrus - suprisingly there was a lot of contamination (gray-white powder)
14. reassebled the charmer, put in the battery - it worked
15 i couldn't believe- it worked
16 sk banchmarks are even better

Hermes 200 under water rescued!
Hello,
My bag with my Hermes200 accidentally fell into a fresh clear water river during a treck in the (lovely) Greek mountains...
I managed to pick up the bag at some point but it was completelly submersed and filled with water ... and so was my Hermes...
I feared that that was the end of it but i tried to save it any way ... and it worked !
1) I prayed to the Hi-tech gods really hard !
2) I immediately took of the batery and everything else i could without a screwdriver (basically the sim card)
3) I opened the keyboard and while firmly wolding it i started shaking it until the last drop seemed to have left the poor hermes...
4) I put it to dry open as it was under the sun
5) I wrapped it with a piece of cloth that was still dry and continued trecking ...
6) At home i took it out again and let it dry for a day ...
7) I then tried to put the battery back and pressed the reset with the pen... it only gave me an orange light and then it switched off...
8) I let it dry another day in sun where possible open without battery
9) I put the battery back and the screen lit up in very psychedelic colours but it seemed to boot (again with the reset). So I took off the battery again and let it dry some more ...
10) The third day it worked just fine ... just the keyboard still presents glitches
when I press Backspace it is giving me a "y", the y gives me a "backspace and y" the h gives an "rh" the r and "rh" as well the b an "fb" the f an "fb" as well ... very weird circuitry ... I hope in the next few days when the Hermes will be completely dry that it will come back to normal again ...
So there is a Hi-Tech god after all ... maybe it is Hermes!

I think , it is not good idea to put board in alcohol. Small molecules of Ethanol can diffund over covers to circuit elements and corrupt semiconductivity...
Much better and safe is isopropylalkohol.

Water damage - FIXED with a hair dryer

I left my phone outside before a rainstorm. It didn't get get direct rainfall on it but got the spray of the water hitting the side of the wall. When I remembered it 15 minutes later it was covered in water drops but not soaked.
Everything seemed to work fine at first but then the touchscreen kept thinking it was touched at random places.
I turned it off, removed the battery, and started to dry it off with a kleenex and a condensed air can to blow the water out of the slider. When I turned it back on, the backlight flickered for about a minute and then went black (the LCD picture was still there but very dark)
Now when I turn it on the backlight is on for a second but then goes off. If I hit the OK, Talk, or other buttons they work 1 out of 10 times. The touchscreen still registers hits by itself.
Any suggestions on what I should do to dry it out? Do I need to take apart the screen?
I'd hate to throw it away...any help will be much appreciated!

Hum ill try to say this in english. This solution worked for some friends of mine when their phones got wet. disassemble all the tytn parts, take pff the battery, sim card, memory card, everything u can, take it out. Then with a hairdryer point it to the PDA about an hour. Pay attention not burn it up, only heat it a little so that the water or humidy left in the PDA can evaporate. Then leave it on shelf all opened for about a night. Next day join all the parts and try to connect your device. If it doesnt work, u can always take it to warranty. Sry 4 my english I hope u can understand ^^

Zero|Cool said:
Hum ill try to say this in english. This solution worked for some friends of mine when their phones got wet. disassemble all the tytn parts, take pff the battery, sim card, memory card, everything u can, take it out. Then with a hairdryer point it to the PDA about an hour. Pay attention not burn it up, only heat it a little so that the water or humidy left in the PDA can evaporate. Then leave it on shelf all opened for about a night. Next day join all the parts and try to connect your device. If it doesnt work, u can always take it to warranty. Sry 4 my english I hope u can understand ^^
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Hey don't worry about your English - you speak it better than most others. I'll try this suggestion but I will definitely have to be careful not to burn up anything. Thanks

After the experience tell me how it went

Forget warranty though, there is a water activated sticker inside the hermes to tell the service department if its been soaked. Its white if no water has got in but turns pink if water touches it.
Cheers...
Heres the link to the service manual to be able to dissassemble safely - http://michael-channon.spaces.live.com/PersonalSpace.aspx?_c02_owner=1
You need a small flatbade, a small philips head screwdriver and a no. 6 torque key.
Good luck....

The warranty's already gone so I am willing to take drastic measures to fix this thing. I will let it sit overnight and if that doesn't work, I'll be taking it apart tomorrow. I found a youtube video that shows precisely how to do it. I'll update tomorrow

Would grab the manual as well as it can't hurt to have all bases covered. The manual takes you through step by step.
Cheers...

Thanks for your help, guys!
Seems I was freaking out over nothing. I did like Zero said and took a hair dryer to it (maybe 3mins on low -- 1min on high....did have the patience to do it for an hour) and then let it sit overnight. The phone was completely messed up around 10pm last night even after blow drying but this morning I powered it on and it did just fine. It did reset a couple of settings in advanced config but nothing else was touched. As a matter of fact, I believe the phone runs faster than it did before the incident! I do notice that the CPU memory is idling at 45% instead of 55+%...weird....
So I guess they do make em like they used to

Im glad my solution worked out actually i never tested it on PDA's so i guess that it's quite the same. Hair dryer rullez^^

check your wifi
mcattack86 said:
Thanks for your help, guys!
Seems I was freaking out over nothing. I did like Zero said and took a hair dryer to it (maybe 3mins on low -- 1min on high....did have the patience to do it for an hour) and then let it sit overnight. The phone was completely messed up around 10pm last night even after blow drying but this morning I powered it on and it did just fine. It did reset a couple of settings in advanced config but nothing else was touched. As a matter of fact, I believe the phone runs faster than it did before the incident! I do notice that the CPU memory is idling at 45% instead of 55+%...weird....
So I guess they do make em like they used to
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I had an MDA before my Wing, dropped in the toilet twice after a couple of days worked fine the second time the wifi went out.
PS My wing doesnt go in the bathroom with me anymore

When you phone gets wet
I don't know if anyone has heard of the Kim Commando Show, she is syndicated over the Radio. Anyways, she's a techie and gives advice on different situations relating to different devices and new stuff coming out. Anyways, she advices when a phone get wets to NOT turn on the phone right away (obviously), take the battery out and put the phone in a bag of rice. The rice will pull out the moisture. The phone has to be in the rice for 24 hours. It works 95% of the time. The trick is to not turn on the phone until you are sure the phone is completly dry inside and out. As you all know, electricity and water will just fry your phone. A new battery is suggested.

water damage SGS2 also..
Got my Galaxy s2 in my pocket when it was raining , i hade about 10% of battery.
Took it up and it was dead, so when i came home i put the charger in it but nothing happend.
I have put it into a bag of rise now and will se if it starts tomorrow. I also have bought a new battery.
if that not works ive also bought a new Charger oem cabel from ebay.
to bad for me did the warrenty went out for about 3 weeks ago.
I hope it will turn on again when i read that people that have droped directly into water and have them fixed by rise or other ways.
If this not works, is there any other ways?
thankfull for any help!

How to fix a water damaged JasJam

Ok so my JasJam was in my bag and my water bottle leaked onto it. Thing is I didn't realise that it was wet for at least a couple of hours.
When I picked it up it had turned off because there was all this grime in between the battery terminals. I took the battery out and almost cried.
This is how to fix a water damaged JasJam...
1. Buy a can of CO contact cleaner.
2. Pull the entire phone apart.
3. Spray cleaner on the board and inbetween all contacts and scrub with a toothbrush.
4. Leave to dry for a day or so.
5. Put battery back in and turn on phone.
Ok so at this point the screen didn't turn on and none of the lights came on so I almost cried again. But then I noticed that when I flipped the keyboard out the keyboard lit up! So I held the power button in to turn the phone off and it made that beep that it makes when it asks you if you want to turn it off. My JasJam was still alive, it... just...couldn't see!
Ok so if your screen doesn't come back on follow the next steps...
6. Get a new screen or buy a faulty JasJam off ebay.
7. Take it apart and replace screen.
After replacing the screen try switching it on agian. Mine switched on! But the backlight wasn't working...?!? Go to the next step...
8. Replace the scroll wheel circuit board.
Done, my JasJam now works again! A very happy day!

is there any way to "bypass" the scroller? mine did the same thing but cant really afford a new scroller circuit or dead imate.

Rubbing Alcohol and Rice!
I always fix water damage with rubbing alcohol and rice...
Take the phone apart, soak the FEY layers (the green layers with all the circuitry) in rubbing alcohol, take it out, toothbrush it, put it into your oven at about 350 for like 3 minutes, take it out and place it into a cup of rice for 24 hours. Don't worry, it won't melt because the silicon and iron melting points are really high! And the rice just sucks all the moisture out of anything!
Good Luck!

Didn't find a workaround for the scroll wheel, you'll need to replace...

Touch HD In water, hints?

HI all, i've a really disappointing problem. My touch HD was in my pocket when I took some rain on my motorcycle . Arrived at home the phone was off. I opened it following the service manual. I've putted it behind the power supply of the pc, where the warm air comes out, dismantled, for a few days.
Then I assembled all, and now it turns on, but, it randomly restart. Do you think my mobo is broken? some contact?
I was thinking I can sell the various parts of my phone all the items works, sim, sd reader, camera (back and front) except the mobo ofcourse.
thanks in advance for your help

Hi.I have heard of one way of fixed water damaged devices and that is by putting them in a container covered by UNCOOKED rice. I think the rice is meant to draw the water out. Leave it for a day I think. Never tried it myself but heard it works
Phil G

Hi, thanks for your answer, the phone was behind the psu of the pc for a week totally dismantled, so I think is pretty dry
thanks again for you interest

I actually dropped me BS in a bucket of water. Dried it out in a heat cabinet at work (50 deg C) for a day and it works perfectly still

Hi la3bna, i'm trying to do as you suggested, was your bs powered when it fall in the water?
thanks for your answer

You should use the salt that is used to lower humidity (e.g. from Bison).
Put the bag of salt on the bottom of a plastic box.
On top of the bag a plate so your device has no fysical contact
with the salt. On the plate you lay down your device without
the backside. Seal the box airtight and leave it there for 7 days.
I did this with the Ipod of my son which had been washed for over
an hour on 60 degrees celsius. The Ipod was dead, but after the
procedure as described it was fully functional!

Thanks a lot, I'll try this!!

Yes mine was on, actually someone called my when it fell

I dropped mine in deep snow... I was holding it in my hand and slipped and also fell
It was very wet so I got scared it won't work but when I got home I turned it off,removed the battery,cards and just put it in some blanket to dry off
After an hour turned it back on and everything worked just like before
Also the other day I accidentally spilled some hand cream on my blackstone and it got inside but nothing happened again so I'm lucky...

thanks for your advices, trying the rice thing

lol, you guys are fecking useless
There is no way I would put myself in that situation, then again I have dropped it a few times so probably only lucky there wasnt water about

Well, I also dropped my Blackstone into water and, after drying it for some 2-3 hrs in the sun it works, except the memory card reader - the problem with the water and mobile phones is the fact that the water is oxidizing the circuitry - so, if it still malfunctions after a week of drying, then probably the phone is doomed.
Sorry for your loss!

for oxid, i've "bathed" the phone in Svitol, but nothing appens... i'm going to sell it as spare.
thanks all for your answer

open the device and dry it out..

already tried, using the service manual to open it, and dried for a week, but nothing appens.
thanks anyway

keep pressing the on/off button - eg, press button on off on off on off (while charging)
and tell me what happens, eg, a vibration??

hi, ti vibrate, then starts, show the smart mobility screen, load the SO, and all works for about 10 minutes. Then the phone restarts and get stuck to smart mobility screen. After that the only way is to press reset or remove the battery. After that if you press the power button the phone get always stuck on smart mobility, sometimes start to load the SO and then it restart before finishing to load.
Nicola

Solved
Hi, problem solved, just left the phone in its box for a month then acidentally tried to start it and from that day works great... guess that just needed to dry out.
Thread can be closed.
Thanks for all your advice.
Nicola

The end?
Dropped my Blackstone in the toilet last night (don't know how, I was drunk at the time). I believe it had been fully submerged for 2-3 minutes. It was turned on at the time. When I recovered it (thank God nothing had been done in the toilet at the time), it was off. I removed the cover and there was water behind the battery, in the SD card reader and SIM. Not a lot, but it was wet. Stupidly (drunk) and panicking , I dried off the back panel with a hand towel (possible static charge damage? - not yet known ). I left it on top of a t-shirt which is on top of the radiator. I don't yet want to turn it on fo fear of wrecking it (if it's not already wrecked).
What methods to people recommend I should take from above? Or maybe there are some new techniques? Would I be better taking it to a mobile service repair shop to see if they can fix it from the beginning, before I do any more damage?

1 dismantle the device into pieces. (if your not sure how i can give you a step by step guide)
2 now dry each of the parts of the device with cotton wool buds (the things used to clean your ears)
3 the put the device back together.
4 done.
....some people say to leave the device in rice etc because it draws the water from the device, IMO this does not work properly and there is nothing better that opening the device and actually cleaning it and removing the water yourself, and this should only take a few mins. it is also not recomended to send it to a service repair shop for something you can do yourself. just be carefull when dismantling the device. do not break any ribbons - used to connect the lcd amungst other things to motherboard.
might be possible you will need a new battery ^

[Q] Any Recomendations?

I went swimming a couple of days back and i forgot that i had my HD2 inside my packet, the phone got wet and now when i try to turn it on i see the buttons lighting up but a black screen...what should i do?

My HD2 had been very wet once,so we are on the same boat. You should never turn on your phone while it is still wet. Take out the batt, flush it with some denatured alcohol if you have some(this is recommended as it removes impurities left behind,like Chlorine.It also dries out any remaining water much faster than normal drying).If you do not have that, just run it under tap water for half a minute. Unscrew your phone so that at least the housing is separated. If you want, you can unscrew all the different modules. Submerge all those parts into a container of uncooked rice or silica gel. The phone should be completely covered. Leave it to dry for 5-7 days. Then, attempt to turn your phone on and test to see if everything is fine. If you cannot power up your phone at all, you might wanna try a new battery, as the battery might be broken. My HD2 worked perfectly,save for the mic. If yours does not work, you might want to order those water indicator stickers and the warranty void stickers from aBay and replace the current stickers,then send it for repair or submit a claim from insurance.hope this helps and i wish you good luck in reviving your phone.