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Hi,
I would like to if possible to update my xda rom to a wm2003 rom, so i can use windows voice command.
Please can someone let me know which rom is best to use for stabilty and userablity..
Also instruction how i update the rom once i have got it??? and any advice you can offer during the updating process??
Many Thanks
Zetex
http://www.xda-developers.com/XDAtools/
the different guides here should be plenty of help
here is something i copy'd from this site at one poit
Ok here you go, its a little outdated but its what I still use:
Qman's how to use XDArit to write nk.nb1 or nk.nbf to your SD card aka the Bootloader Method!
1. Place XDArit and the nk.nb1 or nk.nbf file in the same folder and start XDArit.
2. Select your SD card (disk drive) from the drop down menu.
3. Select Write to SD
Notice that the Windows CE box is already checked so just click the browse button at the end of that window.
4. Select your (nk.nb1 or nk.nbf) image and then Open
Notice by default XDArit will open looking for a *.nb1 file but if you're going to use a .nbf file you'll have to manually change the "Files of Type" to *.nbf
Notice that nk.nbo / nk.nbo was automatically added as your boot-loader and its check box is unchecked so leave it that way and click OK. XDArit should start writing to the card.
When XDArit has finished writing the image put the SD-card into the XDA and hold the power button and soft reset. You'll be taken to the below screen:
SD DOWNLOAD
Card Type:
CE OS & BOOT
Press action to Download
Or
Press REC to Exit
Press action to download and it will start the download/restore from the SD card.
Follow the on screen instructions once its "Completed" which will consist of a "Soft Boot/Reset".
BTW the above is based on using XDArit version 1.0 which can be download from the software section at:
http://www.yorch.net and a PCI USB 3-One Travel Flash reader P/N FPT-D bought at Fry's.
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The 4.01.00 ENG version is here ftp://tmobile:[email protected]:21 ..
but be careful as it contains the upgrade for RSU and I 'm not sure
it supports 900/1800 or not since it's TMO upgrade.
If your device has no Radio problems (GSM),
my advice would be to down load the file, use Winzip or WinRAR to
extract the NK.nbf file which the ROM upgrade, put it on SD card and flash your XDA using the bootloader.
PS: if you are sure that your network is 1800 MHz then do NOT use R6.24 for RSU upgrade.
Good luck
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anyway i would get a sdcard and a sdcard reader the price is not all that high for any of them
Hi m8,
Thanks alot for all the information you have given me, I have a 256mb sd card and a card reader in my pc, so i should be ok there....
Which rom would you use or have if you were going to put pc2003 on your xda m8???
Thanks alto
zetex
not sure prob the latest 4.01.00 ENG
and be very sure that it were only the rom and not the
radiostack i were upgrading since i seem to recall that 4.01 is US gsm
but i'm not sure i'm upgrading untill i get more tired of messing with 2002 and what applications i like
then i can complain more about the applications which i really really love and need but dont work with 2003
plus people still report issues with 2003 deleting their sdcard for no reason
so if you give it a go be sure to not have infomation on your sdcard which you dont have back'd up so you can get them back if it mess up
Hi m8,
Thanks once again for your help...
I only really wanted it updated so i can use microsoft voice command, do you know of away of getting this to work on pc2002 o/s?? as i would really like to use this program for when i'am driving around with my job....
any idea's m8
Zetex
sorry no havent messed with voice command at all
i feel strange enough talking about talking on the phone using the
handfree
i get a strong feeling people still think i'm talking to myself
zetex said:
Hi m8,
Thanks once again for your help...
I only really wanted it updated so i can use microsoft voice command, do you know of away of getting this to work on pc2002 o/s?? as i would really like to use this program for when i'am driving around with my job....
any idea's m8
Zetex
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u really dont have a choice u hwav to upgrade to 2003 for that proggy... wait a couple of days we might be lucky and siemens might release the official version (the tentative date is jan 30) if no then there is another thread u can get the fpt address and download version a.30.17 the lates beta version of the att rom2003 version and install that...
all the best also i use the voice proggy and love it start apps with a click of a button and call /see contacts easily... now they need to do is covert voice to text so i dont have to transcribe )
rc,
your making me drool!!!!!! its suppose to be brillant proggy, what rom are you using on your xda...
And if i put a beta pc2003 rom onto my xda will a be able to downgrade and upgrade at a latter date...
Also whats the best file for O2 in the uk???
Thanks alot
Zetex
zetex said:
rc,
your making me drool!!!!!! its suppose to be brillant proggy, what rom are you using on your xda...
And if i put a beta pc2003 rom onto my xda will a be able to downgrade and upgrade at a latter date...
Also whats the best file for O2 in the uk???
Thanks alot
Zetex
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on a later date it will definately be an upgrade as this is still a test version i am using.
not sure about the UK ? as i am new in here myself. look for another thread in this same forum for "looking for testers for a.30.17 att wireless" or something like that read thru and u will see..
as fort me i am using that test versionis much better than the cooked 4.00.5 i was using earlier
alrite mate use vA.30.07 AT&T test rom newest out and its bluddy brill works like a dream cant wait to get the propper update should be cool
its very fast and seems extreamly stable v4.01.00 is stable but is soo slow and seems to make tomtom 2 run slowly as in takes about 3 minutes to start up ect...
get the vA.30.07 rom from here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=5492&start=25
worth getting imo
gaz
Gazzaman2k,
Thanks alot m8 for the pointer, people are very helpful here. Starting to learn quite quickly....
With this being a US rom will it be alright on mu UK Xda? and will this rom be ok for my UK O2 phone calls???, are they both in the rom for download???? and how would i install it onto my xda??
lmk m8
Zetex
zetex said:
Gazzaman2k,
Thanks alot m8 for the pointer, people are very helpful here. Starting to learn quite quickly....
With this being a US rom will it be alright on mu UK Xda? and will this rom be ok for my UK O2 phone calls???, are they both in the rom for download???? and how would i install it onto my xda??
lmk m8
Zetex
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On your xda you have 2 things,
the rom, thats your operation system, now pocketpc 2002, you wanted to update it to windows mobile 2003.
And you have the radio rom, this is the "operation system" for your cell phone part of your xda.
If you update to A.30.07, the windows mobile 2003 beta, you leave your radio rom in tact, so you can continue making calls
Also, watch out for those updates what are programs,
because the also update your radio rom,
better use a .nb1 file with xdatools
Hi,
reading with interest,
Zetec is asking most of my questions for me - but one that I'd like to add:
Does the ppc2003 upgrade allow you to control the phone and the pda volume separately (as per the xda II)?
Thanks
xdardd said:
Hi,
reading with interest,
Zetec is asking most of my questions for me - but one that I'd like to add:
Does the ppc2003 upgrade allow you to control the phone and the pda volume separately (as per the xda II)?
Thanks
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yes, I have one slide bar for the phone and one voor the os (music, alarms, etc)
yup dual volume controls also on v4.01.00 it has a tab called band showing 1900mhz or 900mhz this means you then have to loose 1800mhz (but can be brought back in bootloader) on the vA.30.07 there is no tab like this so in other words no need to go into bootloader so you wont loose your 1800mhz
so vA.30.07 is great for countries using 900/1800
gazzaman2k,
I updated the rom last night everything is working just fine, very nice and it runs very smoothly as well.
I have put Tom Tom 2.24 and that seem to work as well, and the speed is great
Just one question what gps driver is best to use because i'am only getting a couple of bars on the gps status???
Also on the phone side i'am getting on my desktop an AT&T WIRELESS tab??? is that right...
And finally what can i use for closing programs from the desktop, making sure they close by tapping the X in the courner of the screen. Because when i close a program they still remain in the programs running under memory tab...
please let em know
Thanks alot
Zetex
zetex said:
gazzaman2k,
I updated the rom last night everything is working just fine, very nice and it runs very smoothly as well.
I have put Tom Tom 2.24 and that seem to work as well, and the speed is great
Just one question what gps driver is best to use because i'am only getting a couple of bars on the gps status???
Also on the phone side i'am getting on my desktop an AT&T WIRELESS tab??? is that right...
And finally what can i use for closing programs from the desktop, making sure they close by tapping the X in the courner of the screen. Because when i close a program they still remain in the programs running under memory tab...
please let em know
Thanks alot
Zetex
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att wireless in today... u seeing it because this rom is from them and they force it in there, no biggie go to the today - items screen in the settings and uncheck it it will be gone,
as for the programs remaining in the memory that is how the OS has been for a while get aversion of POCKETNAV from Scott seligman woreks well to move around the OS and helps u close unwanted proggies
http://www.scottandmichelle.net/scott/cestuff.html
also the GPS thing isnot a driver issue it is WM2003 feature ( or drawback u may call it) that the signal meter is poor... it is only the display that is poor the signal strength when u see one single dot is about 40% (i tried the trial version of ipdashboard which will tell u in numbers what the strenght is) so just live with it....
hope it answers most of the ?'s
yeah windowsCE have always mixed the alt tab kind og closing with normal closing i asume that it's to make loading faster if you often use the same stuff
it's a good custom to force programs down once in awhile because if you played quake 1 or 2 and then pacman and the deside to listen to mp3 it's going to sound crack smack and pop
Thanks alot for all you help, you have all been very helpful and i now have a xda1 with wm2003 test rom on it....
oh and not forgetting voice comand, very nice app
just one thing i have notice the radio i have installed is 4.20 could i put 4.21 on it and if so how..
Also when i press the volume button on the side and in some apps the box for highlighting a feature or missing but the function works as if its there... is this just because its a test rom???
Thanks once again, i'am now very much enjoying my xda because of people on this board..
Thanks
Zetex
Zetex, glad to hear the upgrade went succesfully!
Did you use the SD card method described earlier in this thread?
Is your UK 02 phone the version with the 32Meg Rom or the 64?
If it is the 64, does anyone know if the beta ROM fits into the 32 Meg version.
Any news as to whether the final version has come out yet?
Thanks
xdardd
Hi, I'm going to be getting a SIM unlocked t-mobile MDA soon, and was wondering if I should put a custom ROM on it. I understand I have to CID unlock it first. I'm new the custom ROM thing, but I've been intalling custom homebrew firmwares on my psp all the time, so I know about the risks. People have told me that I shouldn't do it because the mda is desgined for windows mobile 5, and should be left at that, and custom ROMs are very buggy, and freeze a lot. Is this true? and can someone help me to CID unlock my MDA. Also, how can I tell if its a G3 or G4? and what's the difference between them? and there are so many custom ROMS out there, which one is the best? I heard it was the core 2 by xplore, but im not sure. What do you think? Please answer with something! I'm very frustrated right now, THNAKS!!!
In the section called wizard upgrading is a sticky by Dr. P...in it it explains how to unlock your device. Read it, then read it again, follow the directions explicitly.
As for rom...I have a Tmo MDA running a WM6 custon rom...Jaguar 3.1
Each rom is different, it depends on what you want in a rom. If you want bells and whistles go with a TNT rom. If you want a zero calorie rom go with a Core rom and customize as you need by installing 3rd party apps. If you want something in between, go with Jaguar or a Faria...there are so many amazing chef's at work here at xda, that in truth, you just gotta try each kitchen out until you find the one that meets your tastes. Be warned...you may turn into a flashing junkie and need to join the xda 12-step program!!!
Ok, thanks. You've helped me a lot. I think ill go with the faria or jaguar, I like the sound of them, but ill look up more info on them first. Thanks again.
waleed786 said:
Hi, I'm going to be getting a SIM unlocked t-mobile MDA soon, and was wondering if I should put a custom ROM on it. I understand I have to CID unlock it first. I'm new the custom ROM thing, but I've been intalling custom homebrew firmwares on my psp all the time, so I know about the risks. People have told me that I shouldn't do it because the mda is desgined for windows mobile 5, and should be left at that, and custom ROMs are very buggy, and freeze a lot. Is this true? and can someone help me to CID unlock my MDA. Also, how can I tell if its a G3 or G4? and what's the difference between them? and there are so many custom ROMS out there, which one is the best? I heard it was the core 2 by xplore, but im not sure. What do you think? Please answer with something! I'm very frustrated right now, THNAKS!!!
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It all depends on your taste...i always like to cook my own ROM...pick the one you like, dump and add packages you like and enjoy...but READ (I mean READ...) wiki and stickies before you flash...dont just flash anything and brick your device...
PS: Stick with OS version ending .318 for better wifi connections
Ok, thanks. I should be getting my MDA tomorrow (thursday) so Ill probably start installing custom ROM's on friday, because I want to get to know the MDA a little bit before I install customs ROM's. Also, how can I check if it's a G3 or G4? I know it has something to do with the numbers that show up when the device is turned on, but I'm not sure, can anyone help? Also, hat do u mean "add packages" can I customize my custom ROM however I want? I can add whatever apps I want on the ROM? Also, are all custom ROM's windows mobile 6? are there such things as windows mobile 5 custom ROM's? its not that I want it, just curious. Is there a such thing as jaguar.318? (you said .318 has better wifi)
waleed786 said:
Ok, thanks. I should be getting my MDA tomorrow (thursday) so Ill probably start installing custom ROM's on friday, because I want to get to know the MDA a little bit before I install customs ROM's. Also, how can I check if it's a G3 or G4? I know it has something to do with the numbers that show up when the device is turned on, but I'm not sure, can anyone help? Also, hat do u mean "add packages" can I customize my custom ROM however I want? I can add whatever apps I want on the ROM? Also, are all custom ROM's windows mobile 6? are there such things as windows mobile 5 custom ROM's? its not that I want it, just curious. Is there a such thing as jaguar.318? (you said .318 has better wifi)
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All you need is in here http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Wizard. Jaguar is .318 OS, if you flash that you should be good to go...read wiki before you do anything with your MDA. Good luck.
waleed786 said:
Hi, I'm going to be getting a SIM unlocked t-mobile MDA soon, and was wondering if I should put a custom ROM on it. I understand I have to CID unlock it first. I'm new the custom ROM thing, but I've been intalling custom homebrew firmwares on my psp all the time, so I know about the risks. People have told me that I shouldn't do it because the mda is desgined for windows mobile 5, and should be left at that, and custom ROMs are very buggy, and freeze a lot. Is this true? and can someone help me to CID unlock my MDA. Also, how can I tell if its a G3 or G4? and what's the difference between them? and there are so many custom ROMS out there, which one is the best? I heard it was the core 2 by xplore, but im not sure. What do you think? Please answer with something! I'm very frustrated right now, THNAKS!!!
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Hmmm, Take my advise,as you are getting a new device,it wud probably will be with wm5 T-Mobile Rom.why don't you just use it for sometimes,enjoy the new device,get to know all the features and applications and really get to know your device and when you are fully comfortable then go for an upgrade to wm6 version Rom. In the meanwhile, READ 'n' READ all about CID unlocking and upgrading,so that when you are actually going to do it,you have the whole procedure done successfully and effortless
Secondly, it's very very important to know the correct DOC chip version on your device ( G3 or G4) cuz both the devices have all together different method for upgrading,if you do a G3 method to unlock or upgrade to a G4 device,it'll "Brick" the phone,so first determine the version of the device. Download the WST Tool and install,run it and check the report it generates to verify the DOC chip version,whether it's a G3 or G4 device.
Good luck
Yeah, your right, I got my MDA yesterday, and I'm pretty happy with wm5 right now. Ill put a custom ROM on later, no point in risking a birck already, but I still want to CID unlock it now, so I don't have to do it later. Thanks for your advice. I found a lot of things to on the net make a wm5 look like wm6, i got a theme, and media player skin. Do you know any other ways I can make my wm5 look like wm6? Icons? buttons? sounds? is there anything like this on this website? i'm going to check anyways.
Search in the xda wizard forums. A while back someone posted WM^ themes, ringtones, icons etc...if it isn't in the wizard section, then I saw it in the general topics section. Sorry I cannot remember which, but I DO remember seeing it posted here at xda, so just search WM6 themes.
What do you guys think of this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310864 is it a .318? does it have good wifi? please give me a short review or something
waleed786 said:
What do you guys think of this rom: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310864 is it a .318? does it have good wifi? please give me a short review or something
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Well,this one is an old cooked Rom on an older Base Rom,there are at present many latest cooked custom Roms on newer Base Roms,I'll suggest you to consider those,it wud be more beneficial and enjoyable with better and advanced features.Like TNT 1437,TNT 1933,NBD 9.2,they all are excellent build Roms.
You can check out all the latest wm6 Roms on 'Wizard Mobile 6' forum
ok thanks, also i used the lokiwiz program to CID unlock wizard, but I am not sure if it worked, is there any way to tell if my mda is really CID unlocked??? Also, can I upgrade the ROM witgh Vitsa? it didnt work, then I tried the activesync driver, I found the instructions on this website, bit it still didn't work, i followed all directions, and tried 10 times. I try to update, but right when it says verifying device info, i get the message "ROMupdateutility MFC Application has stopped working" PLEASE HELP, ANYONE.....
waleed786 said:
ok thanks, also i used the lokiwiz program to CID unlock wizard, but I am not sure if it worked, is there any way to tell if my mda is really CID unlocked??? Also, can I upgrade the ROM witgh Vitsa? it didnt work, then I tried the activesync driver, I found the instructions on this website, bit it still didn't work, i followed all directions, and tried 10 times. I try to update, but right when it says verifying device info, i get the message "ROMupdateutility MFC Application has stopped working" PLEASE HELP, ANYONE.....
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To verify the CID lock/unlock status,download the WST tool and run,check the button "CID Action" written on it,this will give the report to verify if you device is CID locked or unlocked.
Secondly,don't use Win Vista as it has many problems yet.Flashing is always easy and recommended with WinXP SP2,ok
Cheers
zabardast_1 said:
Well,this one is an old cooked Rom on an older Base Rom,there are at present many latest cooked custom Roms on newer Base Roms,I'll suggest you to consider those,it wud be more beneficial and enjoyable with better and advanced features.Like TNT 1437,TNT 1933,NBD 9.2,they all are excellent build Roms.
You can check out all the latest wm6 Roms on 'Wizard Mobile 6' forum
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Not always an old OS is bad
Maybe you'd like to give my ROM a go
ok thanks for all your help. I guess ill have to go to the library to put a custom ROM on, the have xp there. What is your ROM? Can you tell me more about it?
ok thanks for all ur help. I go to the library to out a ROM on it, they have xp there. What is you ROM dferreira? can you tell me more about it? is it wm6,? is it the one in your signature? I kind of like that one, even though its not wm6, you have a good reason of keeping it at wm5. Another thing is can I use shelltool to put a custom ROM on my mda? does it work with every ROM? if it does, why doesn't everyone use it? what's the use of CID-unlocking it when shelltool is easier and faster? is there a catch?
waleed786 said:
What is you ROM dferreira? can you tell me more about it? is it wm6,? is it the one in your signature? I kind of like that one, even though its not wm6, you have a good reason of keeping it at wm5. Another thing is can I use shelltool to put a custom ROM on my mda? does it work with every ROM? if it does, why doesn't everyone use it? what's the use of CID-unlocking it when shelltool is easier and faster? is there a catch?
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My ROM is WM5, based on the old AKU 2.3 (rev 4 is, rev 5 which is gonna be released soon will be the latest WM5 OS build). You should not use shelltools to change to my ROM, since I've got some fixes/updates done by extendedRom, which shelltools doesn't update! Also, WM5SE is G3/G4 safe, so you can use SoftSPL or HardSPL to flash it so its safe for every Wizard PDA. Why doesn't everyone use it? Its the freedom of choise, everyone is free to use whatever ROM satisfy his/her needs. ShellTools takes about 30 minutes to flash. A CID Unlocked device can be flashed using the official RUU upgrading program, that takes about 6 minutes... also its safer.
Just make sure you have read all the stickies on WIzard Upgrading forums, before ever flashing!
You said you took out windows live, where can I download it if I want to put it back on?
IMPORTANT!!!
one last question, do I need to downgrade my SPL to CID unlock my phone? I have a G3 T-mobile MDA runnig the latest t-mobile 2.26 ROM. How can I downgrade to CID unlock my phone? LET ME KNOW ASAP, I'm in a rush....thanks!
YES !
CID unlocking is only possible through 'lokiwiz02b' Tool and it only works in IPL/SPL 1.xx,so to unlock you'll have to downgrade to IPL/SPL 1.xx.To CID unlock read this Sticky :-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=263116
Good luck
On T-Mobile web site I noticed information about "How do I perform a device software upgrade?"
http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/tm52082.htm#top.
it refers to
"How do I determine what software version I have? (T-Mobile Wing™)"
http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/tm52081.htm?
which states that "The new software version is 4.26.531".
But new software in not available yet http://www.t-mobile.com/wmupgrade/
maybe when WM6.1 comes out?
wyldstallyns2589 said:
maybe when WM6.1 comes out?
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It's very very unlikely that T_Mobile is going to release WM 6.1, but even if it's just WM6 it's still a much awaited update since it's the only one WIng users have gotten!
Oh by the way, i really hope too that it's WM 6.1, since ATT released it for their phones(Tilt).
according to microsoft, WM6.1 doesn't even exist. i contacted customer service asking when it was coming out because the internet isn't helping and after about 5 minutes of looking, the guy said WM6.1 doesn't exist and to talk to HTC about windows mobile updates . . .
The Wing ROM update 4.26.531 is available!
I too was frustrated with T-Mobile's website that was missing a link to the download for the new ROM for the Wing. My wife has a Shadow that is also made by HTC. I downloaded a ROM update for her phone and I copied the URL and changed the last part from shadow to wing. Amazingly, the link worked. Yesterday I was on the phone with tier-3 support from T-Mobile and they escalated the issue to the web development team. We didn't expect an immediate resolution due to the holiday.
So here is the valid link to download the T-Mobile Wing ROM update that http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/tm52082.htm#top says is available.
The ROM update is at: http://member.htc.com/RuuDownload/T-mobileUS/DeviceDownloads.aspx?pid=wing
Happy Updating your ROM! I am so glad this worked.
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I too was frustrated with T-Mobile's website that was missing a link to the download for the new ROM for the Wing. My wife has a Shadow that is also made by HTC. I downloaded a ROM update for her phone and I copied the URL and changed the last part from shadow to wing. Amazingly, the link worked. Yesterday I was on the phone with tier-3 support from T-Mobile and they escalated the issue to the web development team. We didn't expect an immediate resolution due to the holiday.
So here is the valid link to download the T-Mobile Wing ROM update that http://support.t-mobile.com/knowbase/root/public/tm52082.htm#top says is available.
The ROM update is at: http://member.htc.com/RuuDownload/T-mobileUS/DeviceDownloads.aspx?pid=wing
Happy Updating your ROM! I am so glad this worked.
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Any idea what is changed / new in this update?
has anyone tried this yet?
I'm updating my backups and getting ready to try this. I'll let you know how it goes ,and in a few days to let you know how it works in my machine.
can you post anything you notice right away? i'm hoping this is 6.1, what else would it be?
I have a T-Mobile Wing USA.
I am flashing it right now:
1. I extracted the RUU_signed.nbh and flashing via MMC.
2. It scans 2 OS's from the nbh.
3. Reading second OS from SD!
4. Flashing second phase OS
5. Success, Press any key.
6. T-Mobile Splash
7. Original Windows 2nd splash (no indication of version)
8. Typical alignment screen
9. Stylus tutorial screen
10. Password screen
11. complete screen
12. Customization tool
13. 3-5 minute wait then reset
14. T-Mobile start up jingle
15. Installing MyMobiler for initial browsing of the phone now.
Follow up with pics in a little bit.
Pictures are now added. As stated by the next OP the ROM is much more efficient/faster than original stock. But it is WM6. No need to downgrade if you are using custom a custom rom with 6.1.
To upgrade/downgrade with HardSPL use winrar to remove the "RUU_signed.nbh" from exe. Rename to heraimg.nbh put on the root of MMC and install.
Note: I already have went back to "Just2Clean Wing - zcink Edition". I won't be able to answer any questions. I have to have threaded sms and a lightweight ROM.
It's still WM6. There's 17.5mb or ram available without any mods, and it seems to run a little faster, but it's still the same rom. It's version 4.26.531.1. Basically, tmo doesn't care what we want. If you want 6.1, buy a new phone or make your own.
I can't uprom
I did HardSPL so that I could uprom.
But I can't uprom that is from T-mobile website.
How do I have to do ?
If you have a HardSPL'd Herald/Wing/Atlas, use 7zip or WinRAR to extract the contents of the file. Delete the SPL.nbh file. Flash.
I tried it, but I'm disappointed with it... It's just more useless old junk... at most, it might be a good starting point for a ROM base.
well i updated, wing seems SLOWER!!! well after a few resets it's about the same, overclocking to 247.
2 things i've noticed, if you are in the text message program, with all your messages, and you receive a new one, the pop up still comes up, i find that very annoying. also, you now have MMS options in the menu option in the text message area.
the COMManager looks "cleaner" and smaller as well
I didn't install anything but MyMobiler and the ROM seemed fast. No overclocking either. But again I won't live with out threaded sms.
I noticed that the radio rom is upgraded to 03.21.90. Does anyone notice any difference with the new radio rom or is it basically the same as 03.07.90 that came with my device.
what are you using for threaded SMS?
So far I don't see any major differences. It seemed a little faster, but it still benchmarks the same. The only minor diff was more available ram before modding, but once I cleaned out the startup folder I had 26mb just like before. I'll see if the radio makes any diff at work Tuesday.
Happy Memorial Day!
Well it's been 16 hours since my last soft reset and it's still got 23mb of ram available. That's practically unheard of on a stock rom. I still need to cook my own to get rid of this MyFavs crap, but this seems like a good starting point...
Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
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Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
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for desktop PCs ! if you have by example W7 in French and want to put it in English - I mean to get English package by update- this will not work if you have an OEM license -this is not allowed!
so is that with OEMs if you want to keep license !
for your PDA you must find an unofficial English ROM only! also a way to write it to the phone BUT for this to work DO NOT use Active Sync!
I can't give you more details because don't have a PDA like yours but this problem is interesting
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Hi everybody , i am using an Asus P735 device with a German WM6 Rom installed on it. When trying to upgrade it to an English version 6.0 (since i was unable to find 6.1 for this device, which would definitely be preferable), i receive the following message:
"Cross-language upgrade is not Allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
The thing is i don't want the "default language of my device". How can i get rid of it?
After lots of searches on the net, including on this forum, i've found no answers and in the few similar cases posted the users were left with no answer.
The Asus language unlock tools is of no help whatsoever on this phone.
Can anybody help me with this device?
The most similar thread on the forum i've discovered is this one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368107
Thank you very much.
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try a way to write firmware without Active Sync read this post to see you need some way like that
http://forum.xda-developers.com/archive/index.php/t-378907.html
ftp.asus.com/pub/ASUS/IA/P735 doesn't works more you have to find somewere a firmware in English as I see no longer Asus support they say this is deprecated sorry to hear that
Hi Ruscan and thank you for your interest in this topic, being the first person to react at all to this problem that has been left unsolved for many years, despite many other people posting about it earlier and who were left with neither solution nor answer/evidence of interest from the side of the developers. I do also think this is an interesting issue that could become even more actual in the future.
So far i was unable to find ANY unoffocial ROM for the P735. I do have the official one (Malaysia) in English though, from Asus's website, yet i do not know how to hack it and eventually install it. Furthermore, i was wondering whether an P750 or P535 ROM could work on a P735 with few modifications, cause the 735 is hardware-wise somewhere between the two.
I am ready to take the time to write the firmware myself yet i have no experience at all in that neither i know from where to start. If to write a new firware then it would be good to finally produce a WM6.1 version for this PDA, instead of the existing 6.0. How to do that, any idea?
Thank you for your explanation and for making this non-sense situation a little bit more clear.
PS: Also, i've read somewhere that the device won't turn-on anymore if upgraded to a different language, does that apply to an update via SD-card as well?
PS2: Installing the Android system on this device would be an option?
..i wonder what would ASUS.UnlockLangID.exe do with your problem..
what's this all about:
p525 had similar problem, that could result in NOT real bricking of device after flash(wrong languague version after reset - device seem to be locked on bootloader then). when tool is used before flash, custom lang roms are working properly(interesting then, what this tool does, btw, as it is launched from WM - so, it may be microflasher, or sth like that).
now...i have strong feeling, that warnings you read about flashing different lang rom, may be related to this ridiculous, small, problem.
issue is, that i do not know, if ASUS.UnlockLangID.exe may help with p735, OR if there's version made for p735.
update: i read this again, slowly:
"Cross-language upgrade is not allowed. Please ensure the upgrade tool language is same as the default language of your device."
...they tell you about upgrade TOOL, not rom.
hmmm, so.. what, if you use tool in languague of...ROM?
maybe unlocklangid code is inside flasher, so using proper updater with proper rom is simple solution?
on the other hand - i am making roms for asuses for years, and i never used default flash method - vide usbloader method(and force mode from BL).
i am not going to encourage you to go this way of thinking, but...
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Hi Ruscan and thank you for your interest in this topic, being the first person to react at all to this problem that has been left unsolved for many years, despite many other people posting about it earlier and who were left with neither solution nor answer/evidence of interest from the side of the developers. I do also think this is an interesting issue that could become even more actual in the future.
So far i was unable to find ANY unoffocial ROM for the P735. I do have the official one (Malaysia) in English though, from Asus's website, yet i do not know how to hack it and eventually install it. Furthermore, i was wondering whether an P750 or P535 ROM could work on a P735 with few modifications, cause the 735 is hardware-wise somewhere between the two.
I am ready to take the time to write the firmware myself yet i have no experience at all in that neither i know from where to start. If to write a new firware then it would be good to finally produce a WM6.1 version for this PDA, instead of the existing 6.0. How to do that, any idea?
Thank you for your explanation and for making this non-sense situation a little bit more clear.
PS: Also, i've read somewhere that the device won't turn-on anymore if upgraded to a different language, does that apply to an update via SD-card as well?
PS2: Installing the Android system on this device would be an option?
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sorry this is just to test my signature will be back but I do not think Android is an option for your phone it is all about technical specs to port Android on that phone and only Asus will have that
by example I know about a project named Andromnia this is how to use Android on Omnia-WM phone
nice try!! but believe me this is about reverse engineering and does not works for now- no gps/gprs/wifi signal and Android crashes
funny, that andromnia showed me, asus user, that android could be real for REAL PDA's.
andromnia works on p750 when proper kernel is used,
EOT/
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funny, that andromnia showed me, asus user, that android could be real for REAL PDA's.
andromnia works on p750 when proper kernel is used, so i found ridiculous whining of ..omnia user here. where were users of omnia, when andoid on that device WAS real?
Now, go and focking buy android bs, you ignored andromnia maker for months, do not whine now.
well, HTC killed everything.
btw, is author of topic here?
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tell me, what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?
cit:
You can extract ABI file and flash you device through SD card
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sooo..it seems, that updater BUG is reason, not roms itself here.
funny is, that rom cooking for this machine is quite real, if tools i can see are working.
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upd: ok, so, if i see it right, all you need is to:
fully charge battery,
extact exe, get abi,
copy abi to empty sd card(NOT SHDC!),
go to bootloader(hard to say how - try dpad right + soft reset) and
wait.
when update's done, do hard reset.
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of course, i cannot say at this moment, if whole process is safe, it works fine with zinc device(that seem to have identical flash procedures and SAME cross-lang error when manufacturer way of flashing is used(exe)).
i will try to get more info from my mate asap. cross your fingers, and wait a bit.
here's tool you may try to get abi file from original asus updater EXE file:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368401
if it's not working, there's another one, maybe more universal,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=511158
btw, are you from Pakistan?
Thanks all of you for your input.
1 - There is NO AsusUnlockLangID.exe for Asus P735 - do not know why.
The one from P535 or P525 is useless on this phone.
2 - Great point about "same-upgrade-tool-language-possibility" yet the official ROM comes in an .exe file that i do not know how to unpack/hack in order to insert the correct ROM or vice-versa.
Could you provide me with some insight for that?
3 - Besides that, do you think a tweaked P750 ROM could work on this phone, or a hybrid P535/735? Wouldn't that be the best/easiest solution, which would in the same way finally create a more advanced ROM for this quite neglected device? The older P535 has even 6.5 ROMs whereas P735 is limited to the basic 6.0. (Does that have any advantage by the way?)
4 - I am open to any way of flashing, given it provides the right result so all your advices are welcome.
Yes, the author is very present
@Pupakota
Ok, thank you, i've just read your last answer. I'm gonna try the tool you're talking about and inform you of the result.
PS: No, i'm not from Pakistan though i love the country, are you from there?
PS2: Any way to port the 6.1 version to P735, to kill two flies in one shot ?
3 - Besides that, do you think a tweaked P750 ROM could work on this phone, or a hybrid P535/735? Wouldn't that be the best/easiest solution, which would in the same way finally create a more advanced ROM for this quite neglected device? The older P535 has even 6.5 ROMs whereas P735 is limited to the basic 6.0. (Does that have any advantage by the way?)
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p750 is different pair of shoes, nothing would be useful in this case. do not try any roms made for different devices(trivia, i know).
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i dare to say, that any rom is possible for 735... while searching info, people made every possible build, including 6.5's...ALL chinese :E
rom from exe is exctractable, then fully dumpable, packages are clean and good...
btw, that ABI file is just a renamed rom.bin...
while Activesync method of EXE flashing is wrong, only way of avoiding problem is using SD card flash method then by using that pseudo "abi" file.
dpad to right + softreset should start flash procedure. if not, it may be some key on the right side of the device + soft reset(hard to understand translated chinese...).
but before you decide to try...
could you, AsusP, make photo of bootloader mode?
and please, post link of exe file you were trying to flash, i need it(i mean this english one). for some reason dumped rom from "WWE" version seem to be...hebrew... i really would extract real english rom.
now, only problem is, that besides of one case i did not see any clear information, if sd flash with languague change is safe.
one person wrote it is.
Hi, i'll get back to you ASAP regarding other questions, in the meanwhile here is the link of the firmware in question (that i'm trying to use) :
http://support.asus.com/Download.as...e=P735_FUU_Malaysia.zip#P735_FUU_Malaysia.zip
yup, this one seems to be exactly like one i tried to extract, indeed, it's wwe.
damn, it's OLD
it seems, that cooking custom roms is possible for this device without special problems. new 6.1 or 6.5 should work MUCH faster, than your actual one, or that wwe from asus...
try to make photo of bootloader, and tell me, which version of 735 do you have, 64 mb or 128 mb of ram?
ahh and one last question: do you have original updater with german version of rom, that you CAN flash(i mean, that you have now, in your device)? it may be neccesary, if you ever dare to make further experiments.
"try to make photo of bootloader, and tell me, which version of 735 do you have, 64 mb or 128 mb of ram?"
It is 64MB RAM, same as all Asus P7XX devices i guess, if not upgraded (mine is not).
Sorry, but how do you make photos of the bootloader? Do you mean the update tool?
"ahh and one last question: do you have original updater with german version of rom, that you CAN flash(i mean, that you have now, in your device)? it may be neccesary, if you ever dare to make further experiments."
I have it in the device yes but i don't have the program/CD if that's what you mean. It could be downloaded though from Asus i think...
PS: WWE stands for...?
Sorry, but how do you make photos of the bootloader?
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Bootloader mode flash(with unpacked from exe rom image on sd card) seem to be Only way to update your device.
I am trying to determine risk linked to this method, so i need photo of LOOK of bootloader mode.
You may enter BL mode by pressing dpad RIGHT and making soft reset, if i am right.
then something should appear, and this is what i want you to photograph it for me(with..camera).
of COURSE, do not put abi image on sd card YET, otherwise you start to update, and we do NOT know yet, if you brick your machine or not.
so, at this moment i just ant to see hot it look like, without flashing, if its typical 525/750 bootloader, not some weird thing, i'd assume, that abi file flashing should not brick machine.
sorry or enigmatic words, cannot explain this easier way.
It is 64MB RAM, same as all Asus P7XX devices i guess, if not upgraded (mine is not).
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..so not all 735's have 64 mb ram, i'd say, ok?
look, i do not know nothing about your knowledge level, many users of 750's with 128 mb ram are using 64 mb version of roms(typical noob would have no idea to try any different), this is why i mentioned it...
btw, besides using GanFan-ZincROMXtractor's easier way of obtaining rom file from exe is just using restorator, reshack, or similar tool to extract rom at res 152.
result is identical as using zincromextractor, though name of file must be set manually - it is Mars_G4.abi (though, it is not..real abi file, but it doesn't matter).
WWE stands for...?
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english rom...
what exactly are you trying to use to flash, abi file, exe file, what is it?
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hey, do you have account on one of chinese pda sites?
could you download and post here any 735 kitchen for me, sir?
i'd like to have a look onto it, but for some reason i am not able to register.
WWE World Wide English - got it.
Pupakota thanks a lot for your efforts, i've had a busy schedule these days, i'll paste you all the info soon.
My knowledge level is basic yet i have some experience of programing from before and i'm very keen to learn about this, more than just using the system.
Hi everybody!
First of all i want to apologize for my bad grammar, englis is not my native..
I have a friend who's got an old pc pocket 2003SE. He asked me if i can install other language in it.
i have actually mannaged to do this but the problem is, when the battary runs out of power, the device erases every installed app on it, including the lang app.
So i thought about the option of installing a brand new OS with the lang i want build in it. Is this even possible?
Ill be grateful for any piece of info about it
I'm afraid I can't give you the final answer, but I can point out some places where you need to give more information to make it possible anyone to help you.
I think your English is clear enough, but for anyone to give you useful help, they would need to know the make and model of the device you are working on? Installations of PocketPC are adapted by the manufacturers for each of their models. Also, what method are you using to install the new language. I can't imagine why all your apps disappear, the make and model might give a clue. And, with that information, you should be able to ask your question in the appropriate sub-forum.
Prior to WM5, (WM2003SE and older) programs not installed on a memory card and user data were actually installed into the RAM. There was a backup battery to power the RAM when the main battery failed so that user programs, etc were not lost. But as these devices get older the backup battery may not hold a charge so when the main battery runs out of juice the RAM is wiped.
What is the model? It may be able to be upgraded. My old Dell Axim x50 came with 2003SE but it had an official upgrade to WM5 and unofficial WM 6.1 and 6.5 ROMs.
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Prior to WM5, (WM2003SE and older) programs not installed on a memory card and user data were actually installed into the RAM.
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Only true, if user accepted this default behaviour. It's always possible to change this.
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Only true, if user accepted this default behaviour. It's always possible to change this.
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There was also a ROM partition and the memory card, but I don't think you'd have that option with user system data like extra languages that the OP mentioned. It's been a while since I used 2003SE so I could be wrong.
I forgot to mention that there is no manufacturer sign in any part of the device.. probably generic. The model writen under the battary is PH20A2.
Idk what it belongs, maybe you have a good guess
TY for all the help, i appreciate it
welcome to XDA.
with old PDA, you can user defaur rom for use
The model writen under the battary is PH20A2
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=244534
Ok i have mannaged to locate the exect model of the device, its HTC Harrier \ blue eagle (not sure which one..). Wiki said that theirs an unofficial rom upegrade to 6.5, is it true? i got no clue how i do it, and if i can pick the lang i want.
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Didnt noticed u have found the model ahead of me.. Thanks for the help but thers one problem, i dont anderstand why i need to unlocke it or from what. the guy in the link above wants to change an ESN. If someone can explain it to me like im a retarded, ill appreciate it.
Jump =]
Ill be greatful for some help
thanks! it was also a great help for me!
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...when the battary runs out of power, the device erases every installed app on it, including the lang app...
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If the device has a small battery, separate from the main battery, then replacing that small (backup) battery with a fresh full battery could solve your problem?