Enabling the internal gps in the 8525 - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I have heard there is software out there but this girl is in over her head. i would like to enable the internal gps for the 8525 but I don't know where to start any ideas?
Thanks guys
Tiffany

RTFW
It's not possible.

"Hey, your an idiot."-------sorry thats just one of my favorite sayings.
But on a serious note you need to do some researching and read the thread about the internal gps and how it can not be done. Adios

tiffanyb said:
I have heard there is software out there but this girl is in over her head. i would like to enable the internal gps for the 8525 but I don't know where to start any ideas?
Thanks guys
Tiffany
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The internal gps was hacked with a homebrew driver and a trinity radio, however it was found that the internal gps did NOT have an antenna present and the hardware mod to fit one would just be stupid to try (VERY likely to brick).
If you follow the gps thread (in the hermes upgrading section) you will find that the chip reports two satelites in range but im sure this was found to be erroneous.
The best and cheapest and probably the most wise thing to do is to use a bluetooth gps receiver.

thanks mrvanx
thanks mrvanx..I heard there was an internal gps but I thought i needed some software to activate it.sorry to hear it.anyone know the best/cheapest bluetooth gps device?

tiffanyb said:
thanks mrvanx..I heard there was an internal gps but I thought i needed some software to activate it.sorry to hear it.anyone know the best/cheapest bluetooth gps device?
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have a looky at this:
HOLOX BT-321 GPS Module Review
Its possibly the crappiest review ever but im using that gps unit and its awesome (works fine with the hermes)

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tomtom? do i need an external GPS device?

This seems like a silly question even while i am the one asking it. but by the looks of things i need to buy a bluetooth GPS to get my tomtom working.
is this correct..
thanks jay
Yes I'm afraid so - Unless your Pocket PC has a built in GPS (but as far as I know none of the HTC models do).
you could also use a SDIO GPS, but BT is a more elegant solution.
by bt you mean like the bt phone company?
jamiehutber said:
by bt you mean like the bt phone company?
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Bluetooth GPS Receiver, from £50 inc vat. - http://www.gpsw.co.uk/cats/cl3_209.html?OrderBy=Price&
ye sounds good. i was looking on ebay they have solo panel bt one. any preference on the number that they have. the one you pointed to is a "36". whats that mean?! :lol:
cheers for the help
Ill recommend you the Holux GPSlim 236 Bluetooth GPS with SIRF Star III chipset, imho the best you can get for your money right now.
How about the Solar GPS reciever
http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Solar-Bluet...9709303933QQcategoryZ4668QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I have heard of people using this one with the universal.
Anyone have any info about that one?
My advice is don't waste time on gimmicks.
The priority is to get a SIRF III chipset inside as beachmeat suggests.
Solar panels do not stop you having to charge the device, they merely slow down the rate of discharge, providing it's day time, in the winter evenings and at night, you'll probably find they have less battery power then a non-solar panelled device. The guys over at Pocketgpsworld.com did not rate solar panel recievers very well and took time to recover from the piece of advice on the instructions which say "Contains sensitive electronic parts, keep out of direct sunlight"
Another excelent device is the Globalsat BT-338, or the Holux that was recommended earlier.
another Vote for either the Holux 236 works really well with the Exec
well i took your advise even though the solar panel did have the new chipset... i ended up getting a Globalsat BT-338 for £70.. so when i get it i'll let everybody how it goes and works
other options
being 3g the universal is able to run telco programs which help u with traffic like tomtom, even better they can give you more personalized information because the telco can feed u life information.
I live in Australia and Telstra is currently testing a live road map system through 3g, optus does this also.
hope that helps
I might be talking rubbish, but I recently read somewhere that there is a GPS receiver built into the Universal or something like that. From what I remember it was called the 911 GPS and is used to give position information to the emergency services when they are contacted. I heard somewhere it was possible to integrate this to work with navigator software, but would like to know whether or not this is actually correct.
Thanks
Euan

How the GPS works for the wizard

I was curious as to how to get GPS working on my wizard. I see some people purchasing a GPS device of some type, but can't the wizard just act as the gps itself? Why the need for a device?
Maybe im just missing something here. If someone could post up to me how it is I can get one running on my MDA i'd appreciate it as that'd be a great help for me when traveling.
T.c.
veritas17 said:
I was curious as to how to get GPS working on my wizard. I see some people purchasing a GPS device of some type, but can't the wizard just act as the gps itself? Why the need for a device?
Maybe im just missing something here. If someone could post up to me how it is I can get one running on my MDA i'd appreciate it as that'd be a great help for me when traveling.
T.c.
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Well congrats this is the 1000000 thread regarding the GPS topic. Ok sorry to be sarcastic but people need to learn to use the search button. As to your question, the MDA does nto have a built in GPS chip. You need a GPS device and software in order to use it like a gps unit such as a tomtom car unit.
... Ya know I did look that up by the way. All the topics I found spoke about the tomtom6, tomtom5, or isomethingmap and people BUYING the device but no one saying WHY they were purchasing it. No need to come into the topic and flame me I did search, I always search and it wasn't like I placed a bunch of half thought out questions in my post either.
T.c.
What you need is a Navigator program (eg. TOMTOM) installed on your Wizard and a satilite receiver (GPS - Wire or Bluetooth (better)). Link your device with GPS via bluetooth or wire, open Navigator program and you are now up and running. It is that simple.
Thank you WLove. That's all I was wanting to know was why people had to have a secular device to have it running (the satilte receiver). Now I see i'm going to need to pick up that 2.gig mini sd chip.
T.c.
I just started using my navman 4410 GPS with iguidance v3 and they work like a charm!
while we are on the topic, anyone have any reccomendations on some bluetooth GPS receivers?
Just thought I;d point out that it may be slightly easier to get confused as to whether the Wizard has GPS or not, as when I rang O2 for my upgrade I explicitly asked 3 or 4 times if it had built in GPS and they said yes. I also stressed it was GPS not GPRS I was asking about. They still said yes. And also I believe one of the chips in the Wizard has some kind of gps related capability, even though it is not a gps receiver, so maybe someone read that also. I know I have somewhere on this forum.
Thirdly, the search function is useless here.
Magor said:
while we are on the topic, anyone have any reccomendations on some bluetooth GPS receivers?
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Just google for Bluetooth GPS receivers. You'll find loads. I bought the cheapest at about £35. Works a treat. I think it's a generic model sold by many sites. Has a pic of a satellite on it!
Magor said:
while we are on the topic, anyone have any reccomendations on some bluetooth GPS receivers?
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Buy a receiver with SiRFIII chip: quicker, more accurate and better reception than any other chip available on the consumer market. If you want to spend a little less (say about $/€ 50) you could buy a SiRFII receiver. Don't blindly believe claims like "supports up to 20 satellites". In most situations you are lucky to receive 10 satellites or more! Even with as little as 4 or 5 satellites calculating your location is accurate enough for road navigation.
If the software supports TMC (traffic updates free of charge by RDS on certain radio channels; not sure if this exists in the US) you could buy a GPS/TMC combined receiver. Unfortunately TomTom does not support TMC as it has its own paid traffic service.
In regards to the GPS units with the SiRF chipsets, can anyone vouch for the cheap $50 on eBay that are solar/battery powered with linking via Bluetooth or wire? I am getting a T-mobile MDA to unlock for my personal usage and I am highly thinking about getting one, just I wanted to know if anyone had any good things to say about them.
Here's a link for an example: http://cgi.ebay.com/New-Solar-Bluet...34QQihZ016QQcategoryZ4668QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
I have never ONCE seen "GPS" listed as a feature for any Wizard... I can't grasp why people would ever think it has a feature that is never listed any where :? :roll:
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Magor said:
while we are on the topic, anyone have any reccomendations on some bluetooth GPS receivers?
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Just google for Bluetooth GPS receivers. You'll find loads. I bought the cheapest at about £35. Works a treat. I think it's a generic model sold by many sites. Has a pic of a satellite on it!
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that's what I've been doing, but I'm new to the GPS stuff so I wasn't sure what to get 8)
Thanks to AgentSmith for the info, something like this should do the job for me http://www.engadget.com/2005/06/02/holux-gpslim-236-bluetooth-receiver-reviewed/
Agreed, the Holux 236 is the one to go for. Has the added advantage of using the same in-car charger as the O2 XDA Mini (i.e. a USB style one).
Don't get Holox (cheap rip off), get Holux.
Get SiRF III, not II.
Don't be fooled by lots of channels, 20 is plenty.
And you don't need a 2GB card. A 512MB with high transfer speeds from a decent manufacturer will be far better than a cheapo no-name 2GB one. I have a 512MB with TomTom 6, full UK maps and speed cam database and it only takes up about 250MB.
I've used an Belkin BT GPS (rebadged Fortuna Clip-On upgraded to Xtrak2) on my Ipaq, both over two years old, which worked well with Belkin's version of iGuidance v1.1. So when I upgraded to the TMo MDA (US version) I kept the Belkin and purchased iGuidance v3, which has worked well.
A friend who also owns an MDA wanted a GPS, but since Belkin quit selling this GPS 18 months ago I started researching, and like others here have noted the Holux GPSlim 236 looked like a winner. I'll know for sure next week when she gets the unit, but I expect it to work fine.
That Holux model seems very good, but you can actually find cheaper SiRFIII receivers (less than 100 bucks).
The needed storage space for maps depends on your personal wishes. If you travel internationally often, you might want a 1GB memory chip for borderless maps like Western or Central Europe. Such maps often occupy 900 MB or more. Otherwise a much smaller card for just one or two countries or regions is indeed enough.
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That Holux model seems very good, but you can actually find cheaper SiRFIII receivers (less than 100 bucks).
The needed storage space for maps depends on your personal wishes. If you travel internationally often, you might want a 1GB memory chip for borderless maps like Western or Central Europe. Such maps often occupy 900 MB or more. Otherwise a much smaller card for just one or two countries or regions is indeed enough.
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The Holux one I found for $90
I also already have a 2GB card and TomTom so once I get the receiver I'm good to go
I don't see the point of using the MDA as a GPS without having a powered car mount, since you could run out of battery quite easily. Go to semsons.com and find what's the best for you. I got mine there along with the M3.itrek+itrek mount for MDA+iGuidance3.0 for around $200 (but you can surely mix&match what you need). It really worths. I mean if you can get a phone with so many functionalities for such a cheap price (mine is USD $250, sounds expensive, but try to search and compare the price with PPC phones from other countries then you know what I meant), why not having it does the most for you at the least cost. You might not use the GPS all the time, but will definitely love it when needed.

External GPS Conection

Can anyone help me on this one. I am looking at the Trinity (Ornage M700) and see a coax style connector on the rear. I have spent the last three days searching many forums and many threads and no one seems to have a definitive answer for what it does. My questions are (I think?) fairly simple:
Is this an external GPS or Phone antenna connection?
If it is GPS, can I disable the internal GPS to check if it works?
If I can, could someone please tell me how.
I realise I could buy a BT GPS but the wired ones are only £10 (delivered)!!
ANy help, greately apperciated.
in this topic they talk about the same thing you are wondering about:
I bought the aerial. As I expected, it did nothing for the GPS strength, but it did slightly improve the Phone signal so it was probably worth it.
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Thanks to "The_Stranger"
The_Stranger said:
in this topic they talk about the same thing you are wondering about:
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Ahh, many thanks, I must of missed that one! Cheers!

tytn GPS

http://cnn.cn/shop/8525tytnhermes-antenna-p-1615.html
did this thing working?
and where is the software?
any who nows?
The GPS on the Hermes is disabled at the chip level in hardware--so NO the antenna in the link won't help. The only way to get gps is to sell your hermes and buy a kaiser or buy an add on gps
bultnisse said:
http://cnn.cn/shop/8525tytnhermes-antenna-p-1615.html
did this thing working?
and where is the software?
any who nows?
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if you did a search (like you should have) you would have found the other threads on it including the original one where someone pulled a phone to bits to work it out.

[Q] HTC Magic GPS tethering

Hello everybody,
I own a HTC Magic (32A but I guess it doen't matter) and I'd like to know if there's a way to use it as a GPS bluetooth antenna.
Nobody I know has tried to do it yet, and I have never seen a sort of GPS-tethering app.
Does anybody know if I can do it and, if I could, how?
I have an "old" N900 which has always been my GPS navigator, but now I broke my external GPS antenna and I don't want to spend money on a new one
It would be awesome if I could tether both data connection and GPS via bluetooth to my N900.
Thanks in advance for your answers!
maffo999 said:
Hello everybody,
I own a HTC Magic (32A but I guess it doen't matter) and I'd like to know if there's a way to use it as a GPS bluetooth antenna.
Nobody I know has tried to do it yet, and I have never seen a sort of GPS-tethering app.
Does anybody know if I can do it and, if I could, how?
I have an "old" N900 which has always been my GPS navigator, but now I broke my external GPS antenna and I don't want to spend money on a new one
It would be awesome if I could tether both data connection and GPS via bluetooth to my N900.
Thanks in advance for your answers!
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