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Changing Bluetooth stack to Broadcom

Anybody know of a way to change the bluetooth stack in the i-mate Jam to the broadcom stack, as used in the Orange m2000 (Blue Angel)? I've used both and find the LAN browsing abilities in the M2000 most useful
Thanks

At a guess mate, the broadcom stuff is wi-fi and NOT Bluetooth?
Kev

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At a guess mate, the broadcom stuff is wi-fi and NOT Bluetooth?
Kev
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Yes, but Broadcom aquired Widdcom, so now they also have bluetooth.

I resume this thread to ask if anybody thought to test BCM1000-WCE
Bluetooth® Communications Software for Windows® Mobile 2003 for Pocket PC and Pocket PC Phone Edition.
It looks great and full of functionality. But where is it possible to dowload it? Is this the same of the one on ftp site, BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900.cab ? Did anyone try BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900.cab on S100? Does it support the Audio High Quality (A2DP) profile?
WEBSITE
http://www.broadcom.com/products/Bluetooth/Bluetooth+RF+Silicon+and+Software+Solutions/BCM1000-WCE
PDF INFO
http://www.broadcom.com/collateral/pb/1000-WCE-PB03-R.pdf

http://www.idedata.no/support/support.asp?ID=428
I foud it here, but haven't tryed this jet

i will try it and let ya know.........

tried it and it didn't work... same error as with any widdcom drivers! and it doesn't create a bluetooth icon shortcut in the today screen!

doesn't works
tried but when i try to activate BT i get always errors on BT devices not found

Thx PapaDocta for your testing...it's really a shame that we have to work around this way to find a decent BT Stack to replace that poor one by MS!
:x :x :x

Re: doesn't works
crino said:
tried but when i try to activate BT i get always errors on BT devices not found
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Grazie pure a te!!!

Bluesoleil BT stack
I used Bluesoleil BT stack fot Win CE work for me
see : http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18537
but looking for full version

Re: doesn't works
crino said:
tried but when i try to activate BT i get always errors on BT devices not found
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i tried this stack - it's don't work.
I think it because broadcom limits to use they stack only for certain devices which has license to use they stack.
in broadcom registry hive i found "license" key. if somebody find proper license key for i-mate bt chip - i think that broadcom stack will work on magician.

Re: Bluesoleil BT stack
Knot said:
I used Bluesoleil BT stack fot Win CE work for me
see : http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18537
but looking for full version
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ya bluesoleil works
do u tried it with a bluetooth headset?

Re: Bluesoleil BT stack
crino said:
Knot said:
I used Bluesoleil BT stack fot Win CE work for me
see : http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18537
but looking for full version
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ya bluesoleil works
do u tried it with a bluetooth headset?
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We Crino!
...the problem is right that: Bluesoleil stack doesn't have handsfree profile...is it right?

Broadcom(WIDCOMM) drivers v1.4 or later

I would love to try some multiplayer game on my wizard, which comunicates using Bluetooth with another PPC.
I found such a gameunder the name: Billiard Master 2
Version: 2.03
Release Date: 5 March 2005
http://www.mobirate.com
Excellent billiard and pool simulation game for PocketPC with realistic physics, good hi-res graphics and multilingual interface.
Features:
* Bluetooth multiplayer (play against your friend)
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6 February 2006
Bowling Master for PocketPC now WM5 compatible.
So now all our products are WM5 compatible
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Bluetooth is only supported on PocketPC devices with
Broadcom(WIDCOMM) drivers v1.4 or later. This should be true on almost all PocketPC devices.
To check the version of Bluetooth goto Bluetooth settings->About
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Is there a way to workaround the fact that WM5 does not use Broadcom?
//Robert

i need widcomm drivers

WM5 uses Broadcom
You can find Broadcom stack in hx4700 with WM 5.0 :lol:

i want to enable bluetooth PAN user driver

I've got a 4700 with WWE M2005 and if someone needs this stack from me then please show me how to do it.
I'm verry interested in the Widcomm stack because it works better at the moment then the MS one om my Wizard.
Cheers,
Drifter

I was under the impression that the Bluetooth stack implementation is an OEM option only. Whoever did the WM5 implementation on the Wizard (HTC?) made the decision to use M$'s bluetooth stack instead of WidComm's. As such, I don't believe it can be easily lifted...

i once installed widcomm on my Wizard and PAN network connection was enabled. i found widcomm for windows CE on the ftp of XDA uploads. now everything is deleted . if you install widcomm you get the PAN enabled under networkcards that is all i need so i could get a connection without activesync on every pc. is there anybody who can post the Widcomm for windows CE drivers on XDA please?

widcomm 1.5000
its on www.indoxda.net/index.php?nId=324
haven't tried it myself so use at your own risk
please post if it works for u I'm thinking of trying it myself

DUDE, thank u VERY much! finally someone who helps me i'll try it if my phone will be wrecked you will hear

it works partially, it can't activate bluetooth because Comm manager is already running. does anyone know how i can disable commanneger bluetooth so i can run widcomm only? you can see on the screenshots he alsol has comm disabled and he tells also :|

hmmm... "not easily lifted" isn't much of a problem to the people here . Great link galleon1388!
Btw: there's a lot of folks at TreoCentral who would like to see this work as the Treo700W BT implementation is a pos.

"Bluetooth Radio failed to turn on due to insufficient driver memory available"
Performing a normal reset doesn't help things.
I followed the directions to the letter. Can someone help here?

jwzg said:
"Bluetooth Radio failed to turn on due to insufficient driver memory available"
Performing a normal reset doesn't help things.
I followed the directions to the letter. Can someone help here?
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dude i have the same, take a look at this topic http://72.14.203.104/search?q=cache...6+widcomm+for+wm2005&hl=nl&gl=nl&ct=clnk&cd=3
if you manage to fix it PLZ tell me, i'm trying too!

hmm my audio doesn't seem to work after the widcomm :S

Same here...I cannot access the link to which you are referring...tks to the gov. of the PRC.

Guys, you will have to wait a bit longer.
Look at this thread
http://buzzdev.net/component/option,com_simpleboard/Itemid,59/func,view/id,14572/catid,26/
Seems that Widcomm is unstable under WM2005
Cheers,
Drifter

not released

my audio isnt working anymore, anybody know how to fix plz????

Widcomm stack on HTC Wizard

Is it possible ?! I know it's been asked before but I hope that someone has new answers...as others, I get this error:
"The Bluetooth Radio failed to turn ON due to insufficient driver memory available. You must perform a normal reset before you can turn ON the Bluetooth Radio."
I tried everything, I even f*cked up my MS stack (which is ****ty btw).
It must be some registry setting(s) something related to the maximum memory allocated to drivers in WinMobile...
Thanks guys

up!
exaclty same problem...
trying to change bt stack because of the poor sound quality on A2DP using the MS one...

I would recommend you do some more searching. This has been tried already and nobody has been able to ever get it working on the Wizard.

I am
perhaps by "tunning" the Ms a2dp dll...
Seems that only the encoding part is bad...

baramuse said:
I am
perhaps by "tunning" the Ms a2dp dll...
Seems that only the encoding part is bad...
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Strange some peopel reported "high quality" with the Wizard A2DP. I've never managed to fine tune it to reach the quality of my other A2DP-capable PDA's. See my remarks and the hacks I've tried in my A2DP-related articles.

ok i've read your articles.
Seems everything's possible if you have a widcomm stack...
The poor guys stuck with MS one can just cry until some clever guy releases a compatible version for theire pda (S200 for me)..
I've tried almost every stacks, hard-reseted a thousand times my prophet, no one seems to work
As I'm interested by the P3600 I've sent a mail to the HTC guys just to know with which stack will it be coming....
If you have any lead...... I'll the first to explore it
I'm a developer in a french company but I don't to that kind of dev so I wiosh I could try to find a solution myself but I doubt...

baramuse said:
ok i've read your articles.
Seems everything's possible if you have a widcomm stack...
The poor guys stuck with MS one can just cry until some clever guy releases a compatible version for theire pda (S200 for me)..
I've tried almost every stacks, hard-reseted a thousand times my prophet, no one seems to work
As I'm interested by the P3600 I've sent a mail to the HTC guys just to know with which stack will it be coming....
If you have any lead...... I'll the first to explore it
I'm a developer in a french company but I don't to that kind of dev so I wiosh I could try to find a solution myself but I doubt...
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Did you try disabling the MS BT stack similar to as is described in the AximSite thread? It's not done exactly the same way (because, then, the x50/x51 hack would work on these HTC devices too), "just" similar to it.

Menneisyys said:
Did you try disabling the MS BT stack similar to as is described in the AximSite thread? It's not done exactly the same way (because, then, the x50/x51 hack would work on these HTC devices too), "just" similar to it.
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You suggest me to disable the MS bt stack "the HTC device way" and then try to install the widcomm one like on other devices?

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You suggest me to disable the MS bt stack "the HTC device way" and then try to install the widcomm one like on other devices?
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Kinda. I really recommend the "original" AximSite thread - there, you MAY find out how the MS BT stack can be disabled so that the driver memory is freed up. (The case was the same on the Dell when we started the Widcomm project.)

backup ok!
let the tests begin !!
I'll keep in touch

hummm
I've blanked my S200
desactivated MS BT stack ==> 26mo of free ram at this point
installed the stack from axim site
same memory error...
I don't think it's a "real" memory problem but it is clear that the problem comes from the initialization part...
Just a thought but:
Dell AXIM, XDA atom, BlueAngel, ... => the devices on which the stack works have got a common caracteristic : the CPU : XScale one...
On the other side, the prophet, the magician, the wisard,... => the devices on which everything seems correct with the widcomm stack but still refuses to start it, avec an OMAP CPU...
Perhaps it's a newbie reflexion, perhaps it has nothing to do with it... but perhaps the initalization process has some CPU specific routine...
Still investigating, still newbie in the pocketPC environement :$

Sounds pretty good for a newbies speculation. I was reading about this (randomly scanning thru all topics) and wondered how much memory exactly did you gain by removing the bt stack? I dont even use BT (might get a headset, but prob not) and if its worth the memory gain, I might try to disable it myself.

baramuse said:
hummm
I've blanked my S200
desactivated MS BT stack ==> 26mo of free ram at this point
installed the stack from axim site
same memory error...
I don't think it's a "real" memory problem but it is clear that the problem comes from the initialization part...
Just a thought but:
Dell AXIM, XDA atom, BlueAngel, ... => the devices on which the stack works have got a common caracteristic : the CPU : XScale one...
On the other side, the prophet, the magician, the wisard,... => the devices on which everything seems correct with the widcomm stack but still refuses to start it, avec an OMAP CPU...
Perhaps it's a newbie reflexion, perhaps it has nothing to do with it... but perhaps the initalization process has some CPU specific routine...
Still investigating, still newbie in the pocketPC environement :$
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i've read a lot about widcomm bt on wizard, and i found the following :
the original ms bt stack calls msusbhub dll, which means that bt in HTC devices uses usb to get connected, and the widcomm stack tries to connect to an internal serial port.
conclusion : widcomm stack can run on OMAP, but we have to write a wrapper between usb and the internal serial port.
anyone can do that ? / i am not enough experienced, in ppc development, not even in driver dev.

The Wizard contains a TI BT RF front-end no? Anyone know the part number?

Read http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/in...h_stack_for_the_htc_wiza&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1

Bluetooth programming portability issue

Hi all,
I am programming an OBEX bluetooth program for pocketPC platform, I see that there are different bluetooth stacks (Widcomm, Microsoft,...) on different pocket pcs, also I see that there are many ways to write OBEX bluetooth apps, either Winsock or using IObex COM objects and may be others.
My question is:
1. Do I have to write two implementtions to work with Widcomm BT stack and MS BT stack?
2. I am currently implementing BT functions using IObex COM interfaces, will this work on Widcomm BT stack??
3. any suggestions?
I hope to find some help here as usual
Thanks for your time...
Mohammad

mohgdeisat said:
Hi all,
I am programming an OBEX bluetooth program for pocketPC platform, I see that there are different bluetooth stacks (Widcomm, Microsoft,...) on different pocket pcs, also I see that there are many ways to write OBEX bluetooth apps, either Winsock or using IObex COM objects and may be others.
My question is:
1. Do I have to write two implementtions to work with Widcomm BT stack and MS BT stack?
2. I am currently implementing BT functions using IObex COM interfaces, will this work on Widcomm BT stack??
3. any suggestions?
I hope to find some help here as usual
Thanks for your time...
Mohammad
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I think your best options is to make two components, because Widcomm BT implementation is completely different of M$ BT stack.
Fortunately both SDK are available.
Cheers,
.Fred

Thanks, dotfred, but if I have to do two implementations then where can find Widcomm BT stack SDK?? is it free to download? and what approximate percentage of PPC users use Widcomm BT Stack?
Any other suggestions guys?
Mohammad

mohgdeisat said:
Thanks, dotfred, but if I have to do two implementations then where can find Widcomm BT stack SDK?? is it free to download? and what approximate percentage of PPC users use Widcomm BT Stack?
Any other suggestions guys?
Mohammad
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I have a Widcomm that works on my XDAII (I can give it), but for the rest, I really don't know. Don't forget that both stacks can't be active at the same time on the device, so you have to play with the registry and soft reset to activate one or another.
The biggest problem with Widcomm is that the bt headset doesn't work.
And the biggest problem of M$ stack is the lack of PAN and the BT manager is useless.
I think you should try to do it first for M$, when you succeeded then do it/try it with Widcomm, but you need a device that has it.
Cheers,
.Fred
ps.: for the sdk, here is an interesting article and a download link:
http://www.pocketpcdn.com/articles/...=78&atb.set(a_id)=7800&atb.perform(details)=&

Widcomm Bluetooth Stack

Hello,
Does somebody know if there is any HTC device that use the Widcomm BT stack instead of standard Microsoft stack?
Thanks,
Emil.

emilbergg said:
Hello,
Does somebody know if there is any HTC device that use the Widcomm BT stack instead of standard Microsoft stack?
Thanks,
Emil.
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Unfortunately the Touch Pro 2/Tilt 2 does. Why in the world would you want it? Nothing seems to work with it.. Several of my programs that use bluetooth don't detect anything.

I'm writing a BT application and I want to be sure that it works also on devices with the Widcomm stack.
Maybe there is a wrapper for the Widcomm stack that let all BT applications be compatible with it?
Why the OEMs use this stack instead of Microsoft's?

Chip
emilbergg said:
I'm writing a BT application and I want to be sure that it works also on devices with the Widcomm stack.
Maybe there is a wrapper for the Widcomm stack that let all BT applications be compatible with it?
Why the OEMs use this stack instead of Microsoft's?
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Hi emilbergg
It's to do with the chip that they use for the device. The Broadcomm chip requires the Widcomm software. Essentially, it's a driver issue. Different chip, different driver. I'm guessing the choice of chip is made on a mixture of functionality and cost.
Cheers
andrew-in-woking