Anybody try DirectPush and BlackBerry Connect on the same device? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

So here's the deal:
I've been using DirectPush for a year now, and I'd like to keep using it for my company/personal mail.
I've just taken on a client that has Exchange with BES, and they would like to give me an email account on that server. While they've offered to give me a CrackBerry, I'd just assume not have to deal with two devices (how anti-convergent!).
Is it possible to have both DirectPush and BBConnect on the same device?
I suspect that in order to get BB Connect working, I'll need to switch to a data plan with access to BB's APN. If I do that, will it prevent me from reaching my hosted Exchange server?
Any experience/insights welcome...

goestoeleven said:
So here's the deal:
I've been using DirectPush for a year now, and I'd like to keep using it for my company/personal mail.
I've just taken on a client that has Exchange with BES, and they would like to give me an email account on that server. While they've offered to give me a CrackBerry, I'd just assume not have to deal with two devices (how anti-convergent!).
Is it possible to have both DirectPush and BBConnect on the same device?
I suspect that in order to get BB Connect working, I'll need to switch to a data plan with access to BB's APN. If I do that, will it prevent me from reaching my hosted Exchange server?
Any experience/insights welcome...
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The two email accounts will work together just fine, but the issue you will run into is that BBConnect sets up it's own data connection to Blackberry.net and will fight with other apps on your hermes that want to use the wap.cingular connection. BBConnect usually wins this fight. Thus, if you want to use both, you will need to just disable and enable the Blackberry.net connection in BBConnect when you want to check those emails.

Thanks for the response... which Cingular data plan do you have?

No problem.
I use PDA Connect for Blackberry Connect Unlimited. I no longer have access to isp.cingular, so I have to use wap.cingular, but it seems just as fast. Can't get Cingular Video to work, but I'm not sure if that's a data plan problem or just how my 8525 is configured.

by the way, have you ever used Cingular Answer Tones?
My brother uses it and has "Big Bottoms" playing every time I call him instead of a ring. I always laugh.
"talk about bun cakes, my girl's got em"

Ha! Somehow I don't think my wife would be terribly amused with that answertone...
;-)

jakirkla said:
No problem.
I use PDA Connect for Blackberry Connect Unlimited. I no longer have access to isp.cingular, so I have to use wap.cingular, but it seems just as fast. Can't get Cingular Video to work, but I'm not sure if that's a data plan problem or just how my 8525 is configured.
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so are you switching back and forth between wap.cingular and the blackberry apn?

yep. Using black 2.0, when I want to use IE or check regular outlook pop email, it connects to wap.cingular. Inevitably though, the blackberry.net connection fires up after a random amount of time to reconnect and disables the wap.cingular connection. This is why I sometimes just disable the BBConnect app unless I'm using it.
By the way, you can set Cingular Answertones to only play the "special" song for specific numbers, so your wife wouldn't have to hear it.

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Blackberry Software for HTC device from T-Mobile Germany

Today, we got a mail, that T-Mobile germany released backberry software for HTC-Devices:
http://updateservice.t-mobile.net/blackberry/login.do?servcoid=TMD
MDA 2
MDA 3
MDA Compact
MDA Vario
MDA Pro
I haven't installed it. But this sounds good.
what kind of software? has anyone installed this yet?
ghost - can you share the software with us to try ?
I cannot log in since i do not have an account there.
Is it something the same as it was released for MDA Vario recently ?
baudy2 said:
ghost - can you share the software with us to try ?
I cannot log in since i do not have an account there.
Is it something the same as it was released for MDA Vario recently ?
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Click on free download, this would help :`)
Button [FREE SOFTWARE] > Endgeräte > Blackberry Connect
Strange, it behaves the same as the previous BB Connect released by T-Mobile for MDA Vario.
Simply does not work....
Hi,
i installed the Blackkberry software on PPC and on Desktop and its working fine.
I can setup filters on Desktop Software and alle mails will be pushed to my Universal.
The only bad thing is the battery time - I guess that I will need power every day and rechachge the battery
How long does your universal stay without recharge of the battery?
Erik
i have installed the desktop program but when i try to run it, it detects an error claiming that a connection with the mail server could not be established.
Do I need MS server installed? I only have a normal home PC with windows xp home ed.
Thanks
Hi,
I use Blackberry Push with an exchange server and own Blackberry Sever in our company.
This is how I setup my connection:
- I have an Outlook connection to my exchange server working.
- Active Sync is working.
- Install BB Software on PDA
- Install BB Software on Desktop
- Started BB Software form Settings -> Instant Mail and choose what kind of service do you want: Blackberry Solution (You have an own Blackberry Server) or Instant Email with Blackberry (to use the blackberry server of your provider). I choosed "Blackberry Solution"
- Restart Blackberry Software
- Start Your Blackberry Desktop Software, choose your Outlook Profile and Create Your Own Security Key. Your BBPin will be displayed from your PDA. If not connection doesn't work.
- Create Your filter and save all to your PDA
- If you have GPRS enabled and all works fine, you Blackberry software will connect and get your first results.
That's the way, it's working on my universal.
To save your battery live, turn of UMTS and use GPRS. You can turn it off in settings -> Telephone.
You don't need it for Blackberry service.
Erik
ghost said:
Hi,
I use Blackberry Push with an exchange server and own Blackberry Sever in our company.
This is how I setup my connection:
- I have an Outlook connection to my exchange server working.
- Active Sync is working.
- Install BB Software on PDA
- Install BB Software on Desktop
- Started BB Software form Settings -> Instant Mail and choose what kind of service do you want: Blackberry Solution (You have an own Blackberry Server) or Instant Email with Blackberry (to use the blackberry server of your provider). I choosed "Blackberry Solution"
- Restart Blackberry Software
- Start Your Blackberry Desktop Software, choose your Outlook Profile and Create Your Own Security Key. Your BBPin will be displayed from your PDA. If not connection doesn't work.
- Create Your filter and save all to your PDA
- If you have GPRS enabled and all works fine, you Blackberry software will connect and get your first results.
That's the way, it's working on my universal.
To save your battery live, turn of UMTS and use GPRS. You can turn it off in settings -> Telephone.
You don't need it for Blackberry service.
Erik
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How does this save battery power? surely the BB uses the same amount of power to stay connected to 3G as it does to GPRS??? and of course it downloads quicker using 3G
ghost said:
Hi,
I use Blackberry Push with an exchange server and own Blackberry Sever in our company.
This is how I setup my connection:
- I have an Outlook connection to my exchange server working.
- Active Sync is working.
- Install BB Software on PDA
- Install BB Software on Desktop
- Started BB Software form Settings -> Instant Mail and choose what kind of service do you want: Blackberry Solution (You have an own Blackberry Server) or Instant Email with Blackberry (to use the blackberry server of your provider). I choosed "Blackberry Solution"
- Restart Blackberry Software
- Start Your Blackberry Desktop Software, choose your Outlook Profile and Create Your Own Security Key. Your BBPin will be displayed from your PDA. If not connection doesn't work.
- Create Your filter and save all to your PDA
- If you have GPRS enabled and all works fine, you Blackberry software will connect and get your first results.
That's the way, it's working on my universal.
To save your battery live, turn of UMTS and use GPRS. You can turn it off in settings -> Telephone.
You don't need it for Blackberry service.
Erik
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How does this save battery power? surely the BB uses the same amount of power to stay connected to 3G as it does to GPRS??? and of course it downloads quicker using 3G
tonyb15re said:
How does this save battery power? surely the BB uses the same amount of power to stay connected to 3G as it does to GPRS??? and of course it downloads quicker using 3G
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Hi,
I don't know how it saves your battery - it's my experience that I can stay more than one day without 3G and BB. With switched on 3G, I need every day power.
I guess that the 3G part of your telephone is switched off and that saves power, like if you turn off WLAN or Bluetooth.
Erik
Hey Ghost,
It seems that this site is not open for all public.
Can you help me on this?
Is this just an add-on software moduel or a complete ROM-image?
I would like to test this on the BES of my company.
Thanks in advance.
Roelof
nice post man
just try it on my CHT device!coo
ghost said:
tonyb15re said:
How does this save battery power? surely the BB uses the same amount of power to stay connected to 3G as it does to GPRS??? and of course it downloads quicker using 3G
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Hi,
I don't know how it saves your battery - it's my experience that I can stay more than one day without 3G and BB. With switched on 3G, I need every day power.
I guess that the 3G part of your telephone is switched off and that saves power, like if you turn off WLAN or Bluetooth.
Erik
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Heres an answer to my own question, the power saving is probably down to the reduced amount of searches carried out to locate a UMTS connection, my phone constantly hops between GPRS and UMTS depending on coverage, each time it has to re-register hence using more power and sending more data to the network. I havent tried the GPRS Only option yet, I may give it a go next week when I'm on the road..
Do you need a specific ROM to use this software?
Cheers
Rowan
CAn I bump this topic?
I'd like to try to use this software with an O2 rom, but I suspect I won't be able to.
Can any of the guys using it confirm if it is Rom specific?
Cheers
Bump from me too.. would be very interested in the answer, since I hate the T-Mobile ROM I am forced to use now due to BB Connect.....
Has anyone actually had the BB connect work with the Q-tek ROM AKU1 ??
Thanks
Becky
ghost said:
Today, we got a mail, that T-Mobile germany released backberry software for HTC-Devices:
http://updateservice.t-mobile.net/blackberry/login.do?servcoid=TMD
MDA 2
MDA 3
MDA Compact
MDA Vario
MDA Pro
I haven't installed it. But this sounds good.
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Do you know when blackberry software will be avaible for mda compact 2 ?
The BB Connect software seems to be tied into the Service provider, there are 2 profiles, in the TMob one, email and BB Enterprise, I use the latter, the email one is hard coded for TMob bb servers.
O2 said they were going to ship a BB Client but wouldnt commit to a date.
The TMobile ROM is Old (Pre AKU2) BUT, it works, it pairs with my Parrot 3400LSGPS, it runs TomTom5.2 fine, the only downside is the gay pink video button. I do however have to reboot it a couple of times a day, and the BB Connect sometimes loses all will to live and forces me to reboot.

VPN driving me crazy...

OK, I don't knkow what else to try here, hence the post!
I'm trying to get my XDA exec (Universal?) to connect to my work VPN. I've entered all the details exactly the same as they are on my laptop (which works) and yet when I try to connect, I get an error message saying "VPN Server problems. Verify your username and password, and try again. If the problem persists, turn the device off and try again." This message appears instantly, as though it is not even trying, and my GPRS connection terminates, without an error message, without a warning. What I think is happening is that as soon as I ask to activate the VPN, it disconnects the GPRS, and then the VPN won't work because of that. Which seems rather stupid.
I've tried rebooting, I've tried changing every setting in the VPN connection, I've tested the GPRS connection by visiting websites, I don't know what I can possibly be missing. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
This has absolutely killed my faith in this device. It stops synchronising my mail at least once a day, without warning, it has crashed in the past, destroying mails I was writing at the time, and I find it generally unreliable, unfriendly and considerably less useful than a BlackBerry. Sorry, but I had to say that, I'm tearing my hair out here...
im not sure if you can do VPN over GPRS you may require a wifi connection for that.
Hello faethor, fancy meeting you here!
I know on the XDA IIs it worked over GPRS, so it would surprise me if it didn't on the Exec, but perhaps you're right...
I don't care any more, fed up with the damn thing for today...
This is possible, but there are various possible problems.
It could be something as basic as you need to add your company web-site in the 'exceptions' list (Start, Setting. Connection (tab), Connections (icon) advanced, exceptions). e.g *.companyname.co.uk.
It is worth checking with your IT people if certain IP address ranges are also blocked (e.g. for extra security).
Network tech support are quite rubbish on this, and it took me, my former MD and our IT company several hours to get it sorted last time we tried this!!
The queston is do you need VPN for document view / transfer or is it just for email / contacts on the move (you mentioned Blackberry)?
If your company has MS exchange 2003 the exec sync's straight in using yout outlook web access settings (a tick box also needs to be enabled in the server) or you could use something like www.seven.com which I have had both personally and corporate which works brilliantly.
If it is full VPN you need, I can provide documentation or contact numbers which may help.
It may be that your VPN connection needs to be the GPRS settings (and using the APN vpn.o2.co.uk (you said you were using an XDA which is an o2 branded HTC device) and your conx to your server via proxy is your home server details?

T-mobile US proxy hosed?

I have a TyTN (originally ATT 8525 flashed to vanilla WM6.0) that I gave my wife a while ago. She had the T-Zones 5.99 internet up and running just fine a few months back, but wasn't really using it so we dropped the plan. We still used WiFi a bit, so I disabled the T-Mo connection. Now, I'm using the phone for myself and want to get T-Zones back, so I used Lurch's connection installer. When I try to use an Internet app (like PIE), I see that it's connecting, then it thinks for a while, and pulls up a HTTP ERROR: $CODE$. At first, it didn't have the proxy set up (I forgot that Lurch didn't do that, I guess), but even after fixing it and soft resetting, I get the same problem. Is there maybe something wrong with the proxy or some such?
try this cab..
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=395203
Actually, I tried that just before you posted, and it *did* fix my PIE issues. Unfortunately, I don't think Gmail IMAP is working, but I don't have my phone handy to double-check. I believe only traffic to/from port 80 (and maybe 8080?) is allowed, so secure IMAP probably won't ever work, right? It doesn't bug me too much -- since it's Gmail, I can always just use the browser (now that I have EDGE, that is).
i had gmail pop setup and working a couple months back.. now i cannot get it to work either
The connection should be set to work under Tmo Data and work to internet under proxy - and to work as prefersed connection under the e-mail account.
if you go to google and your account settings there is a tutorial under imap settings that will have you reconfigure your email settings on your phone manually. it fixed mine immediately.

SKYFIRE Problem

Has anyone been able to use SKYFIRE, whenever I have installed it (hard reset after another) it still won't connect.
Anyone have a solution?
I've had this problem, Skyfire started but kept displaying "check flight mode".
It was due to the proxy server used by my operator (SFR, France).
Under settings->connections->connections, uncheck "This network uses a proxy server to connect to the Internet" (write down your proxy server adress in case you have to use it again).
Worked for me but be careful, your operator may charge you extra money for using the Internet without any proxy...
jinvox said:
Has anyone been able to use SKYFIRE, whenever I have installed it (hard reset after another) it still won't connect.
Anyone have a solution?
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Are you with ATT or T-mobile? If ATT, are you with the new att (MediaNet) or ATT Wireless (mMode)? If T-mobile and if not mistaken, a full data package is required, not just the t-zone (which seems to be limited net access)
If MediaNet, there shouldn't be any issues. If mMode, there is a lil tweaking to the connection settings that will need to take place.
I'm using mMode on 8525 (TyTn) and 8925/Tilt (TyTn II). Let me know if I can provide the settings to you.
BigXR said:
Are you with ATT or T-mobile? If ATT, are you with the new att (MediaNet) or ATT Wireless (mMode)? If T-mobile and if not mistaken, a full data package is required, not just the t-zone (which seems to be limited net access)
If MediaNet, there shouldn't be any issues. If mMode, there is a lil tweaking to the connection settings that will need to take place.
I'm using mMode on 8525 (TyTn) and 8925/Tilt (TyTn II). Let me know if I can provide the settings to you.
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Hey thanks for getting back to me on this, yes if ya haven't noticed, I have the ATT badge on my profile hehe...
But it turns out, because I'm still under my blackberry data service, it may prevent me from doing certain things since most of blackberry's internet goes through their server and then back to media net.

Emails over approx 4k cause ActiveSync to fail

Hi all
I have 2 x HD2s configured for ActiveSync with our SBS2003 server. Everything works fine when connected to my laptop via USB or when connected to WiFi (whether at my office or at any remote site unrelated to my local LAN). However, once I am using my data connection I experience the following issue which I have narrowed down through lots of trail and error:
When an email of approx 4k and above arrives I can see ActiveSync trying to sync and it then fails with an error code of 0x80830002. ActiveSync will then never reestablish a connection unless I either remove the particular email from my Outlook inbox, or, I connect to any WiFi connection.
If I set the download limit to 1k, it never fails and I simply receive a trunkated version of the email. However, if I select to download the remained of the text it fails again.
The issue is related to the size of the text within the email as attachements can be downloaded fine.
I have been on to T-Mobile as this feels like a carrier problem as I only experience it when using mobile data connection but they haven't come up with anything.
I'd really appreciate any help you can offer as this is driving me mad!!!!!
Many thanks,
Tom.
Is your Exchange ActiveSync running over SSL?
Not at the moment. I'm just trying to get it going at the moment. I just don't understand how it can work in all situations appart from when on mobile data?
the_tominator_1982 said:
Not at the moment. I'm just trying to get it going at the moment. I just don't understand how it can work in all situations appart from when on mobile data?
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If you're not using SSL then it's possible that it could have something to do with T-Mobile, but I don't know enough about them to say.
Does T-Mobile use a proxy for HTTP?
Do you know if they have a policy relating to syncing your phone(s) with Exchange?

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