[Your SD card will be formatted in a special format during the procedure below and you won't be able to use it for other purposes unless you reformat it again afterwards. Please be adviced that you will lose the backed up ROM on SD card when you format it afterwards again!!!!]
I successfully created a FLASH IMAGE on my SD card and afterwards flashed my T-MOBILE MDA from there.
The magic tool needed for this is the HTC mtty.exe (attached below)
You have to follow exactly the STEP-BY-STEP guide otherwise the procedure will fail! I will not be responsible for any damage on your device!
Please make sure that your battery is charged to at least 50% and also back up your device before following the guide below!
CREATING THE IMAGE ON SD CARD
STEP 1
Open ActiveSync (device not attached) and uncheck USB and COM port in Connection Settings. This is necessary to release the USB port for the mtty utility!
STEP 2
Get you an SD card of 128MB or bigger (fresh formated to FAT32) and insert it in your WIZARD
STEP 3
Set the Wizard in BOOTLOADER MODE by pressing and holding POWER + CAMERA and press RESET - if you got the 3-colored screen you were successful!
STEP 4
Connect the device via USB to the computer, then start the mtty.exe on your computer
STEP 5
Settings in the mtty.exe:
Port: \\.\WSCUSBSH001
(all other settings leave the way they are! Please pay attention that you write the port exactly as mentioned above: 2 backslashes followed by a dot and another backslash - this is not a typo!!! I attached a screenshot below)
STEP 6
Now click OK. You will get a notepad-like window with a blinking cursor. After hidding the ENTER KEY once you should see "CMD>"
Type behind that: r2sd all
STEP 7
The utility will start now to write your IMAGE to SD. Please do not interrupt the process! You can see its progress on a statusbar on the bottom of the device's screen. Wait until it shows 100%. Also: the CMD> will appear again on your desktop when it is done.
You created successfully your IMAGE on SD!
HOW TO FLASH FROM THE SD CARD ???
Turn of your device!
Insert the SD card with the IMAGE you've created
Turn on your device in BOOTLOADER MODE by pressing and holding CAMERA and POWER button and performing RESET
=> Now you need to be fast!!! A white screen will appear for not longer than 3 seconds asking you if you want to FLASH from SD card. You have to press the VOICE DIAL / RECORD button within that time frame otherwise it will switch to 'normal' bootloader mode.
That's it!
NOTE:
Do not wonder! You won't be able to read the SD card afterwards on a Windows computer - I just tried it. I guess the procedure above formats the card in a special format, at least Windows tells me that the card is not formatted! So, the draw back is that you can't use the card for other stuff but the ROM IMAGE!
Very nice article. A couple of typos, but overall very well written!
Just out of curiosity, I've seen another thread on making an SD image of a rom, but it indicates you have to be CID Unlocked for it to work. Is that true for this method also (I haven't compared the two)? Just curious as that is an important piece of information (either way) to make note of... So if someone with a CID Locked phone could try this, that would be great.
Also curious if this works for G3 and G4 devices.
I can't try it out on a CID locked device since mine is CID unlocked already!
The guide above is for real HTC technicans, so, I guess it should work either way!
If somebody has a still CID locked device: it would be great if you could give it a shot!
Does this uittlity make a ROM image as the OS is NOW (meaning with all tweaks and installs and everything) or just the basic ROM as you would get with a hard reset?
It is not a backup. It will put the factory ROM on SD card.
The actual image with all your 'tweaks and personalization' can be easily backed up to SD card by using SPB Backup or better SPB Clone.
Does this method work for wm6 ROM?I am a vista user
Not sure if the MTTY can connect from VISTA but in gerneral: it should work with any ROM version on your WIZ.
well,can we place our .nbf image file (wm6) on sd card and install it from the sd card?
Not this way! It will create a special formatted FLASH IMAGE from your installed ROM on SD. When you do it you won't be able to use the SD card for data storage until you reformat it again.
I am not sure if somebody came up with a solution for flashing nbf files directly from SD!
The procedure above is still helpful if you just need a backup of your shipped ROM or if you need to reflash an almost dead WIZ or if you have the need to reflash your WIZ on the go without a computer ...
Hi
I have a frozen **** brick which got stuck while upgrading (Dopodp800w) I tried to flash it thru sd card (which containes original nbh file in my doc folder).
When I try to invoke the bootloader it says "searching for sd card" then goes to 3 color band and nothing else happenes
Can you help me
Edit: Working like a champ.
But you need to edit the one in the topic. It dose not work. The one in the screen shot dose.
Thanks.
A couple of questions
Junner2003 said:
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Do not wonder! You won't be able to read the SD card afterwards on a Windows computer - I just tried it. I guess the procedure above formats the card in a special format, at least Windows tells me that the card is not formatted! So, the draw back is that you can't use the card for other stuff but the ROM IMAGE!
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Great finding Junner!
Can I use "your" rom image to flash "my" phone? Or the image is unique for the one you got the image from?
Could you please investigate with your HTC Technician if this process is valid for both G3s & G4s?
Thanks!
Basically you will be able to use it on any phone!
My problem is that I only had 2 test devices: an European T-Mobile MDA VARIO and a 8125 from Cingular / USA. I could use one and the same image (SD card) on booth devices.
I have no CID lock and also no SIM lock on both devices, so, I can't give you a feedback on what happens if your device is locked.
Maybe somebody else has still a locked device and is willing to give it a try before unlocking? (But please somebody with experience! I won't be responsible if you brick your device! )
Is there any way I can take the Flash Image from the SD and convert it to nb file?
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Is there any way I can take the Flash Image from the SD and convert it to nb file?
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Hmmm, you would have to figure out first in what format the SD card is formatted. Afterwards you might be able to find an application which can extract the file(s) from the card.
I did not want to digg deeper than I had to, it was only importand to me that I can flash from SD when ever I cross the ocean from USA to Europe. That saves me a lot of 'setting up's' ... ... just flash and load backup!
Not working on CID locked
Junner2003 said:
Basically you will be able to use it on any phone!
My problem is that I only had 2 test devices: an European T-Mobile MDA VARIO and a 8125 from Cingular / USA. I could use one and the same image (SD card) on booth devices.
I have no CID lock and also no SIM lock on both devices, so, I can't give you a feedback on what happens if your device is locked.
Maybe somebody else has still a locked device and is willing to give it a try before unlocking? (But please somebody with experience! I won't be responsible if you brick your device! )
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I tried in a G3 & also in a G4, both CID locked 8125´s. It didn´t work, see attached file for the message I got; looks for me that the CID unlock gives the proper security level to do make the command work. I´ll unlock one of them to see if the result is a different one.
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hello,
i'm using the xdatools to put the nk file on the SD card, but when i hard reset my xda, i get into bootloader 5.22 mode, it says "gsm ok", and when i press the action button i get into a test menu.
How can i load the nk file from my sd card? please help.
thanks guys.
Did you place the ROM on the SD card by browsing to your device (...) or using the drop down and choosing your SD reader or XDA SD slot?
I had the same problem until I used the drop down... if you browse to your card, XDA tools will not create a bootable SD.
i used directy dropping down the box to SD
When you use the drop down menu on the destination there should be a drive letter next to your card eg: F: 59.60M USB sd reader or similar, choose that and it should work.
do we soft reset or hard reset
well after loading nk.nbf file
do we soft reset or hard reset to get into bootloader.
also,
the drive letter in destination folder will come if u use card reader,
but if in expansion slot than it does not give the drive letter.
Hello
I did hard reset .
I am having this same problem...
I download to the SD card through the cradle, using the phone's expansion slot. I do a SOFT RESET, to get the bootloader, and all I get is a GSM OK message. If I hit the action button, I then get into the test menu.
Hello
Means you have no nb.1 on your SD card .
as per the instructions I've been following that have been listed in detail here on this site as well as the att siemens support forums, you are supposed to copy the nk.nbf file and use that with the OS Image tool...is this incorrect?
OSImage
I just installed new ROM from new ROM Kitchen .
http://lumpistefan.dyndns.org/
1) Get the file on your desktop ( download or ...I do not care)
2) Open OSInage
3) Source :arrow: Brows to your file
4) Destination :arrow: your SD card (where is it :?: -on your phone
or on the SD card reader)
5) Copy the file to SD card (takes 20 seconds)
6) Remove the XDA from the cradle and soft reset with power button held in.
7) When it says press action to download, push the big button between dial and hangup.
8) Hard reset.
9) Injoy the rest of your day
No way getting SD-Card recognized
Hello,
i have the same problem, the ROM (Made with xda-tools or XDArit) on sd-card is not recognized to download when i boot into bootloader!
I found no way to get this running.
Any ideas?
read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3274
most likely, your wallaby bootloader is not 5.15. Anything above 5.15 won't work. I could downgrade from 5.17 and 5.22, but not from 6.22
still awaiting for some help to down grade 6.22. Nobody seems to care. THis forum has become "too" big that it is not as effective as before ...
People tend to just "shout" and ask before digging deep enough...
too many people posting the same questions into different threads again and again
andhy said:
read this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3274
most likely, your wallaby bootloader is not 5.15. Anything above 5.15 won't work. I could downgrade from 5.17 and 5.22, but not from 6.22
still awaiting for some help to down grade 6.22. Nobody seems to care. THis forum has become "too" big that it is not as effective as before ...
People tend to just "shout" and ask before digging deep enough...
too many people posting the same questions into different threads again and again
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I'm in the same situation - I have v6.22 on T-Mobile 4.01.00ENG and can't do anything, even with an SD card!
Even the BootLoader downgrade tool with XDATools doesn't work.
Any help with this would be appreciated by many other users in the same situation.
The downgrade batch file in XDA-Tools doesn't work for a lot of people (didn't work for me either). However the wallaby patch should work. Otherwise, use XDARit to downgrade the bootloader using the .nb0 file that comes with the downgrade batch in XDA-Tools.
You write the wallaby patch onto the SD card using XDARit, go into the bootloader and enter diagnostics. Then take the SD card out, write bootloader 5.15 onto the card using the bootloader option in XDARit, and place the SD card back into the device. Then from the patched diagnostics screen select Restore SD and it will recognize a bootloader update. I'd recommend saving your original bootloader from the diagnostics first, but that wouldn't work for me for some reason.
i had a 5.17 boot loader that i downgraded to 5.15 via OS image tools, i also downloaded a rom file from the Kitchen & wrote it on SD but i still can't load from SD & i only get the test phase thing
i also downloaded a rom file from the Kitchen & wrote it on SD but i still can't load from SD & i only get the test phase thing
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Try using XDRit instead of XDA-Tools (use the older version of XDRit instead of the newer version). I'm not sure what you mean by "test phase", but maybe your bootloader screwed over during the update? If so you may need to rectify that first, but that's definately beyond me. If you burn the image correctly onto the card it should pick up automatically as soon as you enter the bootloader with 5.15. If you don't burn it correctly then it won't be picked up.
I'm just throwing in my 2c because I've made all this stuff work with a 5.15 downgrade. There's a possibility the thing simply doesn't like your card too, so try a different 64MB SD.
well i do have a 256 mb card & as far as i can tell the downgrade worked fine, now to use the xdarit files to i need to have the SD reader or i can do it the same way i do in XDAtools which is directly into the card through Active Sync
I have a siemens sx56 with AT&T. I was trying to upgrade the ROM version to unlock it. Using XDA developer software and during this process, somehow the connection between the computer and the phone stopped (active Sync). Now the phone is not responding and the screen still displaying the upgrading process. I tried to reconnect but the Active sync does not recognize the devise. I read in this forum that you can solve this problem by using SD card with a good ROM version. Here is what I did. I copied the NK.nbf to the SD card using my computer SD read/write slot. I inserted the SD card in the phone and did the boot loader mode. What I got is "Wallaby boot loader v5.22 GSM OK" that set. Does the phone will automatically ask to press action to start flashing or I have to press a certain key. I tryed all the keys but they give me different tests that they work fine. So far I am not able to find the key that will install the the cooked rom. After that, when I tried to use the SD card in the computer, it did not recognize the card and ask me to format the SD card. I tried the fat and the fat 32 format and download NK.nb1 and/or NK.nbf and again I got the samething. Do I need to down load the ROM file using the XDAtool or just copying the file from the computer to sd directory will do it. I would really appreciate it if someone points out the best way of handling this problem (i.e. get the phone to work with the appropriate ROM and unlocking it) thanks.
Seif said:
I have a siemens sx56 with AT&T. I was trying to upgrade the ROM version to unlock it. Using XDA developer software and during this process, somehow the connection between the computer and the phone stopped (active Sync). Now the phone is not responding and the screen still displaying the upgrading process. I tried to reconnect but the Active sync does not recognize the devise. I read in this forum that you can solve this problem by using SD card with a good ROM version. Here is what I did. I copied the NK.nbf to the SD card using my computer SD read/write slot. I inserted the SD card in the phone and did the boot loader mode. What I got is "Wallaby boot loader v5.22 GSM OK" that set. Does the phone will automatically ask to press action to start flashing or I have to press a certain key. I tryed all the keys but they give me different tests that they work fine. So far I am not able to find the key that will install the the cooked rom. After that, when I tried to use the SD card in the computer, it did not recognize the card and ask me to format the SD card. I tried the fat and the fat 32 format and download NK.nb1 and/or NK.nbf and again I got the samething. Do I need to down load the ROM file using the XDAtool or just copying the file from the computer to sd directory will do it. I would really appreciate it if someone points out the best way of handling this problem (i.e. get the phone to work with the appropriate ROM and unlocking it) thanks.
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Bro, you shouldn't change the Sd fat you erased what's written on it anyway your unit is still on the safe side and you can bring it to normal.
First of all downgrade your bootloader to 5.15 >>>
goto this http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=3274
Hi,
I also have exactly the same problem with my Siemens SX56 as those of Seif's. My Wallaby's boot loader version is 5.22. Ramram said that the first thing to do is to downgrage bootloader. But I couldn't understand how to downgrade the bootloader because I do not have a copy of old bootloader. Should I use 'OSImageTools' or 'XDArit' to write backed up CE image to SD card?
Seif, how did you solve your problem?
Best Regards
rafia said:
Hi,
I also have exactly the same problem with my Siemens SX56 as those of Seif's. My Wallaby's boot loader version is 5.22. Ramram said that the first thing to do is to downgrage bootloader. But I couldn't understand how to downgrade the bootloader because I do not have a copy of old bootloader. Should I use 'OSImageTools' or 'XDArit' to write backed up CE image to SD card?
Seif, how did you solve your problem?
Best Regards
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You need XDArit to write the rom to your SD read the past post on how to copy rom to your SD which is the safest way of installing the rom into the device, by using XDAtools press on FIX BROKEN BOOTLOADER this will downgrade you bootloader to 5.15 don't forget to connect your unit to the cradle when you want to downgrade.
I recommend 1rst of all to make a quick search in threads to be totaly ready for this
this would help :
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=6581&highlight=downgrade+bootloader
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=2068&highlight=downgrade+bootloader
Good Luck now.
Update : How to fix failure during upgrading ROM
The problem was solved. Here is what I did. I copied the NK.nbf file to the SD card using the XDAtools. It seems that the XDAtools uses special format for the bootloader that well recognize the ROM file on the SD card. Rafia your bootloader (v5.22) is fine you do not need to downgrade it.
You should follow this procedure:
1. Install ActiveSync that comes with the device.
2. download XDAtools from this site and install it in your computer.
3. Cook the ROM ( or get it by extracting the zip file from the XDA developers special edition ROM.)
4. Use the XDAtools to copy the cooked NK.nbf file from your computer to the directory of the SD card
5. Insert the SD card in the dead device and go to the bootloader mode (soft reset while pressing power key). Make sure it has more than 80% battery before starting.
6. If it is still working and the bootloader ver. is older than 6.22, it will ask you to press action to start flasing.
7. Once finished, remove the SD card and hard reset, wait 60 sec and hard reset again.
Good Luck and special thanks to Biso for his help.
Re: Update : How to fix failure during upgrading ROM
Seif said:
The problem was solved. Here is what I did. I copied the NK.nbf file to the SD card using the XDAtools. It seems that the XDAtools uses special format for the bootloader that well recognize the ROM file on the SD card. Rafia your bootloader (v5.22) is fine you do not need to downgrade it.
You should follow this procedure:
1. Install ActiveSync that comes with the device.
2. download XDAtools from this site and install it in your computer.
3. Cook the ROM ( or get it by extracting the zip file from the XDA developers special edition ROM.)
4. Use the XDAtools to copy the cooked NK.nbf file from your computer to the directory of the SD card
5. Insert the SD card in the dead device and go to the bootloader mode (soft reset while pressing power key). Make sure it has more than 80% battery before starting.
6. If it is still working and the bootloader ver. is older than 6.22, it will ask you to press action to start flasing.
7. Once finished, remove the SD card and hard reset, wait 60 sec and hard reset again.
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Thanks a MILLION for this info. I'm in the same boat, with bootloader 5.22. One question though, when I'm in bootloader mode, which option do I choose from the menu to transfer the ROM to my device from the SD card? Will there be something automatically coming up? Or will I use one of the options listed below:
1. CE ROM TO SD
2. BOOT TO SD
3. CE + BOOT TO SD
4. GSM ROM TO SD
5. CE + GSM TO SD
By the way, so I never do anything to ruin my device again, can someone please explain what each option does?? I really don't have a clue.
as you can read from the menu you type in all these options are to the SD card
and they are to backup i suppose
rom upgrading should start automatic when a sd card with valid rom is in the sdport
and you are in the bootloader
maybe it ask you i forget but it's not something you have to find browsing
the menu's
Rudegar said:
as you can read from the menu you type in all these options are to the SD card
and they are to backup i suppose
rom upgrading should start automatic when a sd card with valid rom is in the sdport
and you are in the bootloader
maybe it ask you i forget but it's not something you have to find browsing
the menu's
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Thanks for answering my question. Now I simply need to find a really good ROM to use to load back onto my device. What I would like to do is end up with Windows Mobile 2003, but the device is locked at the moment.
Can someone recommend a ROM for me to load onto the device so that I can then unlock it and THEN upgrade to 2003? Or is there a 2003 ROM out there that will also unlock? Originally, I ended up in this predicament by upgrading to the 2003 upgrade from Rogers AT&T, but that locked the device on me. I then tried to use a cooked 2003 ROM, and that's where I am now, without a useable device.
Thanks for all replies!
Linger1974 said:
Rudegar said:
as you can read from the menu you type in all these options are to the SD card
and they are to backup i suppose
rom upgrading should start automatic when a sd card with valid rom is in the sdport
and you are in the bootloader
maybe it ask you i forget but it's not something you have to find browsing
the menu's
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Thanks for answering my question. Now I simply need to find a really good ROM to use to load back onto my device. What I would like to do is end up with Windows Mobile 2003, but the device is locked at the moment.
Can someone recommend a ROM for me to load onto the device so that I can then unlock it and THEN upgrade to 2003? Or is there a 2003 ROM out there that will also unlock? Originally, I ended up in this predicament by upgrading to the 2003 upgrade from Rogers AT&T, but that locked the device on me. I then tried to use a cooked 2003 ROM, and that's where I am now, without a useable device.
Thanks for all replies!
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First of all get the "Special Edition Rom" to your device Unlock it then cook any other Rom you prefer
Special Edition Rom at http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDA-developers-SER-v12.exe
Good luck
First of all get the "Special Edition Rom" to your device Unlock it then cook any other Rom you prefer
Special Edition Rom at http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDA-developers-SER-v12.exe
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Thanks, Ramram. I'm sure I'll have more success this time, but it's just odd that I went from a 2002 ROM, which was unlocked, to the Rogers 2003 ROM, and the phone was locked after that.
I guess I should stay away from that Rogers ROM then?
Linger1974 said:
First of all get the "Special Edition Rom" to your device Unlock it then cook any other Rom you prefer
Special Edition Rom at http://cuba.calyx.nl/~jsummers/XDA/XDA-developers-SER-v12.exe
Good luck
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Thanks, Ramram. I'm sure I'll have more success this time, but it's just odd that I went from a 2002 ROM, which was unlocked, to the Rogers 2003 ROM, and the phone was locked after that.
I guess I should stay away from that Rogers ROM then?[/quote]
Why to worry about the Rogers Rom you know now a way to unlock your phone.
I assume the Rogers rom is based like the At&t rom which it has the sound clipping bug , so I'd rather say that you could cook a T-mobile rom 4.01.16 WM2003 and try it it does not have the sound clipping bug..
Sorry to ask this question which I know has been covered in so many other topics - but thats the problem - the topics are scattered and the answers are varied.
I have a Wizard derivative - an O2 XDA Mini S.
I have run the unlocking wizard and it is now unlocked.
I now want to
a. Backup the exisitng ROM
b. Backup the External ROM
c. Load an updated ROM.
I have tried the 'Unlock EXT ROM Wizard' - but still can't see the External ROM (in Total Commander for example) to back it up.
Can someone post a precise set of instructions for the step by step process for doing a. to c. above.
I am sure that others will find it useful as there still appears to be many posts from confused 'novices' to PPC (like me) who are trying various procedures on a hit and miss basis with varied success.
I just did the backup bit today.
Download aWizard 1.3b2
Run it, run the RAPI server using the 'e' command, wait till it starts, unlock the CID using 'u', then you can backup using the 'b' command, give it a name to backup to, and wait 15 or so minutes and it'll backup your GSM, OS, and Extended roms.
As for flashing, you can use the aWizard tool if you have the .nba rom files.
Or you can use one of the pre-packaged roms + flashers like the iMate one... but, that's where it gets a little perilous. AFAIK, the latest iMate rom will flash a locked Extended rom onto the device, which you can not edit any longer. So until someone figures out how to unlock the Extended rom, be careful.
My other idea would be to take the iMate full rom and break it up into the GSM, OS, and Extended roms. Once you do that, instead of using the pre-packaged flasher and rom, use aWizard to flash the GSM and OS roms and do the Extended part manually. Then you can keep an unlocked Extended rom (of your stock image) incase you ever want to revert to stock (since you backed up the stock GSM and OS roms in the first step).
Where is the aWizard 1.3b2. The unlocker I have is called lockiwizo2b and there is no u option.
Read the upgrading portion of the wizard forums, its all over the place there.
PS, be absolutely sure you want to upgrade, once you change, there is no going back, I did mine, I'd like to go back, but cannot.
jvanbrecht said:
Read the upgrading portion of the wizard forums, its all over the place there.
PS, be absolutely sure you want to upgrade, once you change, there is no going back, I did mine, I'd like to go back, but cannot.
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Sure you can.
If you have an SD image you can go back to the T-Mobile original US load with no problem at all. You DID make an SD image of the ROM before you screwed around, right?
The SPL will not downgrade (you probably can do that by running the RUU for the "hacked-up" earlier Imate version with the 1.x SPL/IPL) but I've found no particular reason to.
I have verified that an SD image restore to the original T-Mo US firmware works from the Imate shipping RUU.
Genesis.
What is the best method for making the SD Image?
I would also like to know.
I would also like to know if the original Extended rom can be backed up after the iMate rom overwrites it.
pewe said:
Genesis.
What is the best method for making the SD Image?
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You need:
1. A terminal program that can speak over the USB port. Terraterm has a patched version out which can do this.
2. A CID-unlocked device (it will NOT work if its not CID-unlocked!)
3. A SD card of 128MB or larger (buy a 128MB for just this purpose, as its a great backup device)
To use it:
1. Get into the tri-color screen (hold CAMERA, reset) and plug into the USB port.
2. Kill wcescomm.exe from Windows XP (this is the ActiveSync driver for the USB port)
3. Start your terminal porgram
4. Hit "return" to insure you have a command prompt.
5. Make sure your 128MB SD card is in the slot.
6. Type "r2sd all" and hit return.
The loader will dump the entire ROM (including extended ROM) to the SD card.
Note that this is NOT a file on a FAT filesystem - its a RAW data dump with a signature and checksum. As such you CANNOT read it onto your computer using a copy - you need a tool like "psdread" to read it from the card to a file on your PC.
If you use a NEW card, you can search for the end of valid data or do what I do and dump the entire 128MB (which is larger than the dump file for certain) and then just compress it - all the trailing zeros will compress to basically nothing.
Stick the card somewhere safe.
To RESTORE from the SD card, insert it with the power off in the Wizard, then power on while holding the CAMERA button. With the older ROMs the backlight will be OFF; with the new IMATE one it will be ON. It will tell you to press the VOICE key to load from the SD card. Do so, it verifies the integrity of the dump and loads it.
Note that the prompt only comes up for a few seconds and if you're using a 1.x release of firmware when you do this the backlight is OFF so its hard to see - but its there. Grab a flashlight if necessary.
Once you load something else on your unit from stock of course you can't go back unless you did this FIRST. This was the first thing I did when I got my MDA, so I have a copy of the T-Mobile "base software" on the SD card in case I pooch my device and need to go back to the OEM firmware.
Thanks Genesis. Very helpful guide.
I did another search on the forum using different search words and I found this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37386&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
and it looks like this is does the same thing - but without having to use other programmes like Terraterm.
Am I right?
Genesis3 said:
pewe said:
Genesis.
What is the best method for making the SD Image?
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You need:
1. A terminal program that can speak over the USB port. Terraterm has a patched version out which can do this.
2. A CID-unlocked device (it will NOT work if its not CID-unlocked!)
3. A SD card of 128MB or larger (buy a 128MB for just this purpose, as its a great backup device)
To use it:
1. Get into the tri-color screen (hold CAMERA, reset) and plug into the USB port.
2. Kill wcescomm.exe from Windows XP (this is the ActiveSync driver for the USB port)
3. Start your terminal porgram
4. Hit "return" to insure you have a command prompt.
5. Make sure your 128MB SD card is in the slot.
6. Type "r2sd all" and hit return.
The loader will dump the entire ROM (including extended ROM) to the SD card.
Note that this is NOT a file on a FAT filesystem - its a RAW data dump with a signature and checksum. As such you CANNOT read it onto your computer using a copy - you need a tool like "psdread" to read it from the card to a file on your PC.
If you use a NEW card, you can search for the end of valid data or do what I do and dump the entire 128MB (which is larger than the dump file for certain) and then just compress it - all the trailing zeros will compress to basically nothing.
Stick the card somewhere safe.
To RESTORE from the SD card, insert it with the power off in the Wizard, then power on while holding the CAMERA button. With the older ROMs the backlight will be OFF; with the new IMATE one it will be ON. It will tell you to press the VOICE key to load from the SD card. Do so, it verifies the integrity of the dump and loads it.
Note that the prompt only comes up for a few seconds and if you're using a 1.x release of firmware when you do this the backlight is OFF so its hard to see - but its there. Grab a flashlight if necessary.
Once you load something else on your unit from stock of course you can't go back unless you did this FIRST. This was the first thing I did when I got my MDA, so I have a copy of the T-Mobile "base software" on the SD card in case I pooch my device and need to go back to the OEM firmware.
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You, sir, are my new hero. You win 3 internets for this post.
Although, what would happen if I used my existing 512mb minisd card with apps already on it? Will it dump to a file and I can compress at that point? You mentioned it was non-readable on the card if I did that. I've already backed up the stock ROM using the aWizard tool, but if I used your method with a miniSD that had files already on it, would it blindly write to it, clobbering files, or write something to the card that was unreadable via a PC (basically not as a file on the filesystem), and if I put more stuff on the miniSD like apps or media, it'll overwrite the backup of the image?
If you do this to a card with data on it you will pooch all the data - it will scribble right on top of the FAT tables and destroy them.
Second, you won't know where the data you dumped ends. To be safe you should save 128MB of the card (from the front) to your file on the PC. This will result in a larger-than-necessary file, but that's ok.
You need tools like "psdread" and "psdwrite" to read and write the SD card in "raw" format - it is NOT a file that gets dumped, but just a RAW image of the ROM (with checksums)!
The only other "gotcha" is that depending on the EXACT configuration of the data you dump the SD card may refuse to reformat to its original capacity when you're doing doing this and/or refuse to reformat at all!
That's fixable by writing a block of zeros (e.g. 10kb or so worth) to the front of the card, which will clear what's confusing Windows (and the phone).
Genesis3 said:
If you do this to a card with data on it you will pooch all the data - it will scribble right on top of the FAT tables and destroy them.
Second, you won't know where the data you dumped ends. To be safe you should save 128MB of the card (from the front) to your file on the PC. This will result in a larger-than-necessary file, but that's ok.
You need tools like "psdread" and "psdwrite" to read and write the SD card in "raw" format - it is NOT a file that gets dumped, but just a RAW image of the ROM (with checksums)!
The only other "gotcha" is that depending on the EXACT configuration of the data you dump the SD card may refuse to reformat to its original capacity when you're doing doing this and/or refuse to reformat at all!
That's fixable by writing a block of zeros (e.g. 10kb or so worth) to the front of the card, which will clear what's confusing Windows (and the phone).
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interesting. if I got a $10 128mb minisd, though, I wouldn't really care to use it in anything else other than this phone. I have a 512mb already for daily usage, so the 128mb would be for a backup incase I want to revert to the standard OOB rom from T-Mobile.
As long as the rom is written to the card and will read from if I choose to restore, I don't care if windows ever reads from the card again.
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Thanks Genesis. Very helpful guide.
I did another search on the forum using different search words and I found this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=37386&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0
and it looks like this is does the same thing - but without having to use other programmes like Terraterm.
Am I right?
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That's the tool I was talking about. This will dump the roms to a file on your PC that is readable. You can edit stuff, rewrite it back to the device, etc.
But what I haven't gotten a definitive answer on is whether you can flash the iMate extended rom and then overwrite it at a later date with the original t-mobile extended rom, since the iMate one is locked or something. Genesis' method involves using a miniSD to create a raw image of a newly booted phone, GSM/OS/Extended rom and all, which you can keep somewhere safe incase you ever want to revert. Apparently, even after flashing the iMate rom with the locked Extended rom, he was capable of re-flashing the device with the original rom from the miniSD.
This is exactly what I am looking for. I want to switch to the iMate rom, and know the order all the cabs in the extended rom need to be installed for it to work properly, but I was afraid I could never revert to the OOB experience. This fixes that, and I will be ordering a 128mb card tonight.
I downloaded Tera Term from http://hp.vector.co.jp/authors/VA002416/teraterm.html is this the right one? It only has COM ports as options to communicate.
Can someone please provide a link to a terminal program I can download which works over USB?
Hi,
I followed your instructions for making a backup of my ROM to an SD Card. I have a small problem, I don't have a card reader for my PC, is there any way to get the ROM image onto my PC via my Wizard? Also since the Wizard doesn't think the MiniSD card exists anymore, is there anyway to raw write those 0's to the card from the Wizard.. perhaps using terraterm? Or have I just killed my MiniSD card and I'm going to have to buy a reader for my PC ?
Thanks!
zan5hin said:
Can someone please provide a link to a terminal program I can download which works over USB?
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download this one: http://arisme.free.fr/hacks/binaries/TeraTermPro_WinCE_USB.zip
its in the bin folder of the zip.
koniosis said:
Hi,
I followed your instructions for making a backup of my ROM to an SD Card. I have a small problem, I don't have a card reader for my PC, is there any way to get the ROM image onto my PC via my Wizard? Also since the Wizard doesn't think the MiniSD card exists anymore, is there anyway to raw write those 0's to the card from the Wizard.. perhaps using terraterm? Or have I just killed my MiniSD card and I'm going to have to buy a reader for my PC ?
Thanks!
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You need a card reader in your PC (or a friend's PC) - I do not know of a way to write it directly in the MDA.
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You need a card reader in your PC (or a friend's PC) - I do not know of a way to write it directly in the MDA.
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Ok thanks, I've got one from a friend now, so all good I was looking at http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HimalayaBootloaderCommands to see if there were any bootloader commands for writing to sd card, but it appears you can only copy the ROM to the SD, besides, this is for a different phone anyway.
Ok I may have found something: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=XdaUtils/psdwrite.exe claims to be able to write raw to the SD card on a WinCE device... I'll investigate.
I'm currently reading the image raw from the MiniSD card using the command "psdread -1 0 0x0F140000 sd.img" using a 256MB MiniSD and it appears to be working, albit slowly. I'll keep you informed of whether I can succesfully recover my SD card using the writer after this read finishes.
Hello,
this morning I had a bad surprise. My HTC mini doesn't work anymore and now when I turn on, it get stucked on three color screen.
I use the HTC Sense 3.5 rom and, until today, all works great.
I try to hard reset the phone, to reinstall the original rom, but without any changes.
I would like to try some commands from adb or fastboot, but my phone cannot be recognized from this tools. I have try to change the USB driver, I installed the google driver, but without success. Only the htc ufficial rom is installed correctly but when I restart the phone, I have always the three color screen.
Anyone can help me?
Thanks, Alex
what is your os on your computer ?
if windows 7 64 bit install usb eugeniausb drivers and use mtty (you have to select the usb port there) console. phone has to be in tri color mode.
send "task 2a" to the phon, it should format nand and restore radio.
had this problem too, that was the solution
My OS is Windows 7 x64.
I have tried your drivers and now I can send commands with mtty.
I send the command that you told me and in the screenshot that I have attached you can find the results. Are errors normal??
My phone is always in three colors screen.
I must send other commands?
Thanks for the help.
yes, bad blocks are normal.
when you have finished restart the phone and flash official ROM for your device !
Thanks for your patience.
I have flashed the original rom, the whole process works fine, but when the phone is restarted (after completed the installation) the three color screen returns....
hmm, you could try task 28, task 29, then task 2a...
dont remember, i think i have used all of them
No success....:crying:
The three color screen is always there...
what does it show ? (best would be a picture of the screen)
In attachment a picture of the boot screen.
As I say in the first post I didn't do nothing for brick the phone. I only turn off the phone yesterday, and this morning I only turn on it.
Are there some commands that I can use in mtty to understand why the phone is bricked?
Thanks again.
hmm.. everything looks as it should..
i am out of ideas.. what about trying to flash a newer firmware ? (1.07.xxx is pretty old)
I have tried with a new version, 1.36 if i remember well (I don't have the phone here now), but the result is the same.
Anyway thanks for your support. I'll send it to the techinical support or I'll buy a new device.
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I have tried with a new version, 1.36 if i remember well (I don't have the phone here now), but the result is the same.
Anyway thanks for your support. I'll send it to the techinical support or I'll buy a new device.
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I can see your phone hang on spl 1.07 so mean your ruu not installed 1.33! I domnt think that your phone is bricked but I think you have not installed rom (fully) by RUU (mean all parts from ruu). I never success trought ruu (only if my s.n. match ruu! So you need to have gold card in order to install rom (nbh)! Your hboot is all time 1.07 so that mean you done installed only rom parts instead of whole RUU... so definitely you need gold card and you need to reinstall rom by sd card! Of course, always "task 29 than task 2a" before everything
How can I create the gold card?
Is there a tool that can I use?
Thanks!
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Now I've a GoldCard, but what file I must copy in the card and what name must have?
I have done several attempts, but I receive always the message "no image file"
asorcinelli said:
How can I create the gold card?
Is there a tool that can I use?
Thanks!
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You can not create gold card now without working windows phone, so you need to read cid from an working wince in order to generate gold card
munjeni said:
You can not create gold card now without working windows phone, so you need to read cid from an working wince in order to generate gold card
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I have created a Gold Card with another device and I follow one of the guide on Internet. I think to have done all correctly, and if I restard the bricked phone holding volume down I see for a very small time the message "no image file".
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I have created a Gold Card with another device and I follow one of the guide on Internet. I think to have done all correctly, and if I restard the bricked phone holding volume down I see for a very small time the message "no image file".
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You must to know:
- gold card created for android device will not work! You need gold card for wince!
- sd card can not be biger than 1gb (2gb not tested) !
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You must to know:
- gold card created for android device will not work! You need gold card for wince!
- sd card can not be biger than 1gb (2gb not tested) !
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Ok, I understand, and so I have a wrong gold card.
I have another WinCE Device and so I could build a correct gold card.
Can you provide me more information? How can I create a gold card for WinCE?
After creating the gold card, what can I copy in the SD? The .nbh of the official rom?
Thanks!
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Ok, I understand, and so I have a wrong gold card.
I have another WinCE Device and so I could build a correct gold card.
Can you provide me more information? How can I create a gold card for WinCE?
After creating the gold card, what can I copy in the SD? The .nbh of the official rom?
Thanks!
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You need revskills software for generating gold card for wince but free version only can read sd card cid, but if you no want to buy it I can generate one for you, just send me cid and I will generate! Chose photon in menu! Do not reverse cid! Search for right cid (you can see many cids but only one is right so see right disk size that match size of the your sd card and copy that cid!!!), than send me a cid by pm and I will send you back file!
About nbh, yes! You need to extract nbh file from ruu and rename it to PHOTIMG.nbh and copy it to sd card... reboot phone to spl and installation will update your photon (but only if gold card is right)!
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You need revskills software for generating gold card for wince but free version only can read sd card cid, but if you no want to buy it I can generate one for you, just send me cid and I will generate! Chose photon in menu! Do not reverse cid! Search for right cid (you can see many cids but only one is right so see right disk size that match size of the your sd card and copy that cid!!!), than send me a cid by pm and I will send you back file!
About nbh, yes! You need to extract nbh file from ruu and rename it to PHOTIMG.nbh and copy it to sd card... reboot phone to spl and installation will update your photon (but only if gold card is right)!
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Ok, Thanks for the info and for your help!
When I'll come to home, I'll send my CID to you!
I finally restore my phone!!!!!
The goldcard installation works fine!
I post a small resume for others people in case the problem come out to someone else.
After the first try with MTTY I try to follow the "Goldcard way". I try to use an old SD Card of 2GB.
First of all I use the guide for Android, but the gold card doesn't works. After I use the Windows CE way with the help of munjeni, but the result was the same.
In both cases the installation fail with the message "no image file".
Finally I change the SD Card and I use a new one (4 Gb size). I follow the Android guide and in theory I have generated a goldcard for Android.
I copy the PHOTIMG.nbh file in the SD Card and the installation works!
Thanks to schlund and munjeni for the help and for the patience!
Hi guys,
So recently my screen stopped working and I need to get it fixed. I want to revert the phone back to its stock ROM but I can't seem to do that. I downloaded the stock rom and followed this guide: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wc89Gh0QpIY&feature=player_embedded
But, when I get into bootloader, in the white section of the screen it says Serial and it just stays unresponsive, it doesn't boot up like in the video. Any ideas on what's going on?
Did you rename the .nbh file to LEOIM.nbh? Also did you put thenfilenon the root(not in a folder) of your SD card? If you have done both of these then make a back up of you SD card and then reformat you SD card with a full format and not a quick format. Also the SD card method does not work well with larger SD cards so you may have to try a 2gig or 4gig SD card. Last you can use HSPL 4 to revert back to stock SPL just choose the SPL version from the drop down box when you run the installer, here is a hint the SPL's with four zeros at the end are stock SPL's.
Thanks for the reply
So, I tried reformating my 16 gb SD and still have the same problem. I then tried to do it with a 4 GB SD, same thing. So I tried it with HSPL but I can't sync the phone to my PC since it's in storage mode and with the touchscreen broken I can't adjust it to sync. I'm not taking the phone to a verified dealer so they probably won't care that it's flashed. The problem, from what I understand is that the digitizer is broken, so it shouldn't matter that the phone is flashed, right?
Thanks
You can connect it to the PC for flashing without Windows Mobile through the bootloader (3-colour screen). Just turn that on and connect it; Serial should change into USB and you are ready to flash.
About SD card method: Make sure the nbh file is named LEOIMG.nbh. The letters MUST be uppercase, else it might not work.
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You can connect it to the PC for flashing without Windows Mobile through the bootloader (3-colour screen). Just turn that on and connect it; Serial should change into USB and you are ready to flash.
About SD card method: Make sure the nbh file is named LEOIMG.nbh. The letters MUST be uppercase, else it might not work.
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Thanks a lot, that worked.