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Device lock no longer working on long press End key (Found reason!)

Hi,
After a couple of days playing with the HTC touch HD I noticed that I can not lock the device anymore by long pressing the end key. I have looked into the settings and it clearly states that long pressing the end key should lock the device.
whenever I long press the key I see the some screen refresh but the device is not locked.
If I switch off Touchflo3D and show the device lock on the today screen, then the device gets locked. Could this be a bug in touchflo3D?
I would hate to have to perform a hard reset just to fix this issue...
If anyone knows a solution, please let me know.
Edit: well, I found the reason why this happens. Once you setup a password for your device, it stops locking the device using long press end button. It sucks, but I can live with it...

Looks like a hardreset is the only way to go.

Lucas0511 said:
Looks like a hardreset is the only way to go.
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If I perform a hard rerset, will I still have all the applications that came standard with the like touchflo3d and google maps? or will I need to reinstall some of the applications myself?

You will have them. It will reset to factory settings, original ROM plus all installations HTC chose to put on the HD.

this hasnt worked on mine from the moment i got it, so i suppose a hard reset isnt going to fix things (?).

indup said:
this hasnt worked on mine from the moment i got it, so i suppose a hard reset isnt going to fix things (?).
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in my case it was working fine....until it stopped working. Looks like a bug in touchflo3d, because you can still use the default device lock from the today screen. that one works...

david-v said:
in my case it was working fine....until it stopped working. Looks like a bug in touchflo3d, because you can still use the default device lock from the today screen. that one works...
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yes that one works when you turn touchflo off but the touchflo end key press never worked.

Can someone confirm that you no longer get a choice of action for the Long Press End Key, i.e. it locks the device and that's it. On the diamond you are able to choose an action or choose the display choice list.
Thanks, cojo

cojones said:
Can someone confirm that you no longer get a choice of action for the Long Press End Key, i.e. it locks the device and that's it. On the diamond you are able to choose an action or choose the display choice list.
Thanks, cojo
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You can configure it. standard it will lock your device, but you can also choose to show a choice list.

david-v said:
You can configure it. standard it will lock your device, but you can also choose to show a choice list.
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A-ha...found it, they moved it to the Button setting (not one for reading the manual). Now...what about the 'Lock all buttons on device lock' setting?!

indup said:
this hasnt worked on mine from the moment i got it, so i suppose a hard reset isnt going to fix things (?).
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This is the same with me and I've not touched push e-mail or exchange server settings. I've only had the phone for 36 hours so not done much at all. The first thing I went to try and do was lock the phone and it didn't work. I'm reluctant to do a hard reset as it didn't work out of the box.
Did you try a hard reset? Did it solve the problem?

no i didnt try a hard reset,didnt think it was worth it just try to get the lock to work.

Has anyone else had the same problem with it not working right from the start and tried a hard reset? If so, did it solve the problem?

spikeysas said:
Has anyone else had the same problem with it not working right from the start and tried a hard reset? If so, did it solve the problem?
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I performed a hard reset and then it worked again. But after setting up exchange, it stopped working. The device lock on the today screen still works though, but not from touchflow3d

I decided to go for it and do a hard reset. The device lock still didn't work. All I had done was follow the original setup screens after the reset. During this I set up Lock with a simple PIN and to prompt for it after an hour of inactivity. If I remove the settings from Lock I can then use Device Lock on long press End key but I can't use both.
This is rather frustrating as I had simple PIN (paranoid as had an Ef stolen a few months ago so at least this would stop them accessing any info stored directly on the device as they would have to do a hard reset to clear it) and Device Lock set up on my Elf which worked absolutely fine.
Has anybody managed to get both working together on the HD? I use the Device Lock to stop any buttons being pressed when I don't want them to be and the PIN so it's harder for people to access any of my personal info if the phone is stolen (not that I intend for this to happen again!). I really would like both to work together!

Just spoken to CS at Orange and they have no idea if this issue with only able to have either Lock or Device Lock working at any one time is specific to my device or whether everyone is affected. If anybody is able to try and let me know their results I'd be grateful as I don't know yet whether I need to send the phone back as faulty.

spikeysas said:
Just spoken to CS at Orange and they have no idea if this issue with only able to have either Lock or Device Lock working at any one time is specific to my device or whether everyone is affected. If anybody is able to try and let me know their results I'd be grateful as I don't know yet whether I need to send the phone back as faulty.
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Just confirmed that removing the password re-enables the device lock. Nice find!
I am on Vodafone.
I assume that one of the manila files in \Windows is checking a registry entry. I wonder if it is possible to make a change that allows both functions to co-exist.

david-v said:
Edit2: well, I found the reason why this happens. Once you setup exchange server for push mail, it stops locking the device using long press end button. It sucks, but I can live with it...
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I have Exchange with Push and still works for me.

Steve James said:
Just confirmed that removing the password re-enables the device lock. Nice find!
I am on Vodafone.
I assume that one of the manila files in \Windows is checking a registry entry. I wonder if it is possible to make a change that allows both functions to co-exist.
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Thanks for the reply. I guess that confirms that it's not specific to my device! As I mentioned before both functions did co-exist quite happily on the original Touch (Elf) so it is possible. I wonder if it is related to the newer style TouchFlo3D and if anyone experienced the same issues on the Diamond or the Touch Pro?
I hope it is something that could be sorted with "tweaks" to certain files or registry entries. If anyone finds out how to solve it I for one would be very grateful!

tnyynt said:
I have Exchange with Push and still works for me.
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Did your exchange policy force you to setup a password? it appears to be the problem. When you setup the device initially with a password, then you cannot lock the device anymore using the long press of the end button. Device lock in today screen always work, the problem is the long press of end button, that stops working as soon as you have a passwaord set up.

keyboard problem cannot type uio,jkl,m:',.

hi im having problem on my x1 whenever i try to use my keyboard now
even i didnt press the blue buttons i can type in numbers and i try many ways to get my keyboard to function poperly. does anyone has this problem?
and is there any solution?

help please anyone???

CAN SOMEONE PLEASE HELP IM DYING TO FIND THE SOLUTION AS THIS IS VERY ANNOYING, I DO NOT WANT TO PERFORM HARD RESET ON IT EVEN AFTER I READ THE MENU IT SAYS NOTHING AOUT IT

Did the problem start after installing a particular application? Try uninstalling each application you've added from the most recent backwards, soft resetting inbetween each uninstallation in case something is causing a conflict.
As a last resort a hard reset* should sort the problem, assuming it's software related. Of course you'll need to reinstall any applications you've got on the phone, and back up any data you want to keep on the phone (I always forget to copy newly added numbers from the phone onto the sim before hard resets, unfortunately ).
*switch the phone off, then hold both silver buttons closest to the screen either side of the optical joystick and switch the phone on while holding the buttons. Keep them pressed until a white screen with blue writing appears. Now follow the onscreen instructions to reset your phone to it's factory default settings.
e: just noticed that you replied while I was writing this. no need to shout! It's an odd problem, and there's probably no one else who's had it, hence no replies. If the problem hasn't been solved after a soft reset, then more than likely a program that's been installed has either taken over a keyboard function, been configured incorrectly, or has overwritten a system file when installing. In which case, like I said, uninstall each program you've installed. If that doesn't work, I think you'll have to hard reset it.
e ii: does the "Fn" icon appear at the bottom of the screen, to the left of the middle, right next to the SIP icon?

I HAVE SOLVED IT BUT I HAVE NO IDEA WHY IT IS FIX
first i slide out my keyboard keep preesing the numbers on microsoft word then i go to dail pad and keep pressing the keyboard numbers then i close the keyboard and began to type with compact qwerty later i slide the keyboard out again and it works............... wtf?????????? is this some bug or what if anyone experience it please tell me. no idea what the hack is happen............ btw thanx anyone who helped me, at least now i dont need a hard reset. (i have been hard resetting my x1 more than 10 times within 3 weeks time................)

SquidgyB said:
Did the problem start after installing a particular application? Try uninstalling each application you've added from the most recent backwards, soft resetting inbetween each uninstallation in case something is causing a conflict.
As a last resort a hard reset* should sort the problem, assuming it's software related. Of course you'll need to reinstall any applications you've got on the phone, and back up any data you want to keep on the phone (I always forget to copy newly added numbers from the phone onto the sim before hard resets, unfortunately ).
*switch the phone off, then hold both silver buttons closest to the screen either side of the optical joystick and switch the phone on while holding the buttons. Keep them pressed until a white screen with blue writing appears. Now follow the onscreen instructions to reset your phone to it's factory default settings.
e: just noticed that you replied while I was writing this. no need to shout! It's an odd problem, and there's probably no one else who's had it, hence no replies. If the problem hasn't been solved after a soft reset, then more than likely a program that's been installed has either taken over a keyboard function, been configured incorrectly, or has overwritten a system file when installing. In which case, like I said, uninstall each program you've installed. If that doesn't work, I think you'll have to hard reset it.
e ii: does the "Fn" icon appear at the bottom of the screen, to the left of the middle, right next to the SIP icon?
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even the fn sign is not there it just straight away type out numbers, after a soft reset when slide out the keyboard instantly when i type it has numbers..... really weird....

That is very odd. I thought for a while that maybe the phone thinks it's in the dialpad, so I tried to see if the dialpad running in the background would cause the same thing in word, but mine seemed to be ok.

SquidgyB said:
That is very odd. I thought for a while that maybe the phone thinks it's in the dialpad, so I tried to see if the dialpad running in the background would cause the same thing in word, but mine seemed to be ok.
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i think im the first xperia user to encounter this problem i just going mad keep pressing the button and think of related applications that relates both so dailer and microsoft word solve my problem. at first i encounter tthe keyboards button starts from opera mini when i try to type in my address and ended up with numbers

I have almost the same problem i have install TOUCH HD Keyboard and after that i couldn't make èòàù (italian) so after uninstalling that .cab all works well again but no more Virtual Keyboard

you probably have press the function key twice, such that it function-lock your keyboard, so all the keys that you hit will yield the numbers or whatever the function+key is supposed to yield.
just hit the function key again to unlock function lock.

BrigateGB said:
I have almost the same problem i have install TOUCH HD Keyboard and after that i couldn't make èòàù (italian) so after uninstalling that .cab all works well again but no more Virtual Keyboard
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450188&page=2

anheuer said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=450188&page=2
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At last no solution right?

How do I change my keyboard?

Hello,
I've been struggling with my keyboard settings since I got my Touch HD. At first, it was a complete QWERTY keyboard. I wanted to change it to a normal keyboard, like on a regular cellphone. I didn't know how to do this. But suddenly, without knowing what the hell I was doing, I accidentally got the keyboard to change. But now my problem is... Well, you know the layout is as such:
1 2 3
4 5 6
7 8 9
Shift 0 Symbol
...I have two problems with this. The first is: I can't type any letters, even if I hold the keys down, so basically, I can't text message to anyone. The second problem is that I have no idea how to change it back. If you could just tell me how to change keyboards, AND how to make the regular cellphone keyboard layout WORK (I have chubby fingers), I'd be really, really grateful.
Thank you for your time.
EDIT:
Oh. I see. How irritating. How am I supposed to know that there are actually two buttons in the center button? Oh well. This still doesn't change my ABC / Numeric problem.

Hi Alfa Jez
Assuming that you have not tweaked your phone in anyway.
There are two ways to change the keyboard settings on your phone.
First, is to go to Settings and within settings your Windows menu option (press window flag top left hand corner of the screen, settings is the second from bottom menu item) and then it gives the option of "Input" showing a keyboard and from there it gives you the option to set your "Input Method" as well as other options on word completion etc.
Secondly, you should be able to change the input settings directly from the middle bottom of your screen once your virtual keyboard has been activated. There is a little up arrow which if you press should give you the option of "Touch Input Settings".
Hope this helps. This information is in the manual.
Best wishes
Kaid

Thank you for taking the time to reply, but I'm afraid this doesn't help me. What you've told me so far, I already know.
Although, I have tweaked my phone with HD Tweak. But no big changes at all.

What does your keyboard look like right now?
Are you stuck on a number-only pad or symbols-only pad or do you see letters on the keys?
Here are some pictures. Tell us which one is the one you have right now.
You should be able to switch through these pads via Sym, 123, ABC keys in the different keypads. You also see that the symbols keypad has 13 different pads to scroll through and it can be "locked" (lock key). That causes it to stay there after pressing different keys. When unlocked, it automatically goes to the normal letters/numbers pad after you have entered one symbol.

Well, my problem is that, even though I have the one with the letters, (of course, it's needed to type letters) I can only type numbers. If you see my problem. I can see the letters and the number, but it seems only to want to use the numbers. Even if I hold the keys down, no letters appear.

Hmm, if you what you have is the second picture above and yet you can only type numbers, then I don't really know what to do. On that screen I only get the numbers if I tap and hold for a second. A quick tap gets me the letters.
Maybe someone else might know what is wrong there.
Did this start recently or have you always had that problem on your HD? Or did it start after you installed a certain program or made some kind of registry change?

Alpha Jez said:
Thank you for taking the time to reply, but I'm afraid this doesn't help me. What you've told me so far, I already know.
Although, I have tweaked my phone with HD Tweak. But no big changes at all.
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I suppose you turned on T9 in HD tweak? If so, turn it off, then soft reset. This problem is being brought up on an almost daily basis.......

michi123 said:
I suppose you turned on T9 in HD tweak? If so, turn it off, then soft reset. This problem is being brought up on an almost daily basis.......
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Did turn it on, yes. But I read other people having the same problem, and they were also told to turn off T9, so I tried that as well. Haven't tried soft resetting, though. (Soft resetting = Turn off, and back on, right? ) Will do!
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After soft resetting, it worked! Thanks to both of you, I'm jumpin' up and down as we speak. ^^

Glad it worked. Just a word of caution: as you don´t seem too familiar with windows mobile (soft reset is one of the most used word/actions as it´s still windows...) just be careful when using different kinds of tweaks (HD tweak, advanced config) or modifying the registry directly. Don´t just change/turn on/off something because it sounds good. If you don´t know what you are doing it can mess up your device real bad......
Been there, done that......

I'll be cautious, and try to control my curiosity. ^^

Are you still jumping up and down? Or has the excitement worn off?
I'm glad it works now.

Help me get back my original keyboard

Hi guys, i just installed a trial for Lingvsoft English>Farsi dictionary and the first thing i noticed was my keyboard had changed to something more stylus friend but not finger friendly.
I didn't take much notice to it thinking it was only for that program but noticed it was on every screen from SMS to Notes.
Even going to Settings>Input and changing Keyboard types doesn't work. It is on a setting called "Keyboard" and everytime i drop the menu and choose Full Qwerty and press Ok, it doesn't save and keeps the same setting over and over.
I have even uninstalled the program and soft resetted but it hasn't fixed it up.
I want to get back the original keyboard, please help me out.

try selecting something completely different, like block recogniser or transcriber or something and the restart the device. If it sticks choose try the compact qwerty and then restart. If that sticks too goto full qwert. If none of this works then it sounds like your qwerty has been replaced and you might need a hard-reset.

I couldn't change mine from the keyboard options under settings, it kept reverting back.
When you are in an sms press the little arrow next to the keyboard icon at the bottom of the screen and change it there, it worked for me.

spooki37 said:
I couldn't change mine from the keyboard options under settings, it kept reverting back.
When you are in an sms press the little arrow next to the keyboard icon at the bottom of the screen and change it there, it worked for me.
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Legend! Thanks that fixed it

Fixed my problem too.
I also had the issue that the keyboard was only inputting numbers - disabled T9 in HD Tweaks - reset then all ok.
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Andrew

how can I go in "HD Tweaks" ?

htc sms input problem

hi, not sure where else to ask this but has anyone ever came across the following issue -
whenever im typing a text message the input is only ever a number, even though it shows text on the virtual buttons, this happens with every form of input with the exceptions of using the stylus and full keyboard
it seems to be locked on numbers, i thought it was the shift key but that only seems to make it go to caps but then you press a and the number 2 appears, its driving me nuts and i cant seem to find anyone else having this problem
anyone help please?
cheers
PS
also just noticed whenever you go into input method options the virtual keys change to numbers outright and you cant change it back to text (ie press abc to go back and nothing happens, the abc button is also greyed out)
thanks

stub20000 said:
hi, not sure where else to ask this but has anyone ever came across the following issue -
whenever im typing a text message the input is only ever a number, even though it shows text on the virtual buttons, this happens with every form of input with the exceptions of using the stylus and full keyboard
it seems to be locked on numbers, i thought it was the shift key but that only seems to make it go to caps but then you press a and the number 2 appears, its driving me nuts and i cant seem to find anyone else having this problem
anyone help please?
cheers
PS
also just noticed whenever you go into input method options the virtual keys change to numbers outright and you cant change it back to text (ie press abc to go back and nothing happens, the abc button is also greyed out)
thanks
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Had a similar problem and using HD Tweak disable T9 Mode for keyboard.
Both HD Tweak & Advanced Config have other very useful tweaks which I recommend. Both attached for your information

Fallen Spartan said:
Had a similar problem and using HD Tweak disable T9 Mode for keyboard.
Both HD Tweak & Advanced Config have other very useful tweaks which I recommend. Both attached for your information
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hi, i have hd tweak, t9 was disabled, i enabled it, tried typing a message again, there was no input this time, the keys were showing but whenever i pressed them nothing happened, its as if text is completely disabled, i switched off t9 (in hd tweak) and tried it again, once again there were only numbers appearing
help!!

UPDATE
The only modes that DONT work are the phone keypad and compact qwerty, the other modes seem to work ok, unfortunately its the phone keypad i want to use!

As I've also suggested to you elsewhere, try uninstalling HD Tweak entirely - it seems to be the root of these sorts of problems.

I had the same issue. I unistalled HD Tweak and "hey presto!" had myself a working keypad. I suggest you try that same. Cheers.