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Hi all.
I have a Trinity since just a couple of days and I´m very happy with everything about it, except for one huge thing that will make me get rid of it if it´s not solved shortly.
The problem is that for some reason I can´t watch divx movies or listen to mp3 files thru the standard player I´ve always used in windows mobile phones all the way back to the qtek s100. I use TCPMP (former Betaplayer) and I encode with PocketDivXEncover as usual. When I try to watch the movie I only get a very distortet image with a lot of pixels and strange colors, and very distorted and wierd sound for a couple of seconds, and then the screen goes black?! I still have my Qtek 9100 with the exact same program in it so I transferred the same exact video files to that phone and tried them, and they work and play perfectly and smoothly as they should. So obviously there is nothing wrong with the program or the video files, so what could be wrong?! I thought it might be something with the program then so I tried installing DivXPlayer and CorePlayer, but the same issues are there as well. Doesn´t work.
It´s totally fine to play mp3 files thru the built in windows media player, then they play just fine, and it´s also fine to play wmv video files thru media player.. But the wmv format is simply way too bad to watch movies on such a good screen. Divx is way better and I just can´t understand why this new and expensive product can´t play back divx files when all my old pocket pc and windows mobile phone of several years back can handle it with no problems at all.
I´ve tried searching around but havn´t found any sollution to the problem or what is causing it, just others with the same problems. Please help, I really don´t want to get rid of this phone as I think it has everything I could possibly want except for this major problem!!
Thanks!
same here i have the same problem, apparently if you select RAW buffer or something like that it sorts it, not got round to it yet, too much else to experiment on!
for video though i use "total video converter" & select "mobile mpg4" 320x240 500kbits/s and they play perfectly in media player
Ok, I´ve tried all the settings in TCPMP, putting it in directraw and everything, I can quite ok picture if I do that, but the sound still doesn´t work properly. It plays for a couple of seconds, then distorts in a wierd way and then stops playing even thou the video is still playing..
I´ll try the program and settings you stated and see if the result is satisfactry. I´ve never been able to get the same quality with wmv as with divx, so that´s why I don´t like wmv as a video format, escpecially on such a large and good screen and the trinity has.
steeth said:
Ok, I´ve tried all the settings in TCPMP, putting it in directraw and everything, I can quite ok picture if I do that, but the sound still doesn´t work properly. It plays for a couple of seconds, then distorts in a wierd way and then stops playing even thou the video is still playing..
I´ll try the program and settings you stated and see if the result is satisfactry. I´ve never been able to get the same quality with wmv as with divx, so that´s why I don´t like wmv as a video format, escpecially on such a large and good screen and the trinity has.
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there is a atifix.cab file around here which may solve your problem. Please use the search function...
Ok, just tried Total Video Converter with the settings you described, and it´s actually quite ok with the mp4 format. But still not as good as divx, can still see some pixel artefacts, but a lot better than the wmv format. So I guess until someone comes up with an explanation and sollution to the divx problem I´ll have to stick with mp4..
Thanks for your tip!
I am using PV Player that came with Orange, no problems here.
Sorry for the noobish question but my problem is as follows....
I know the BBC Iplayer site states the HD2 is not compatable and either way I thought I'd put some downloaded programmes on my phone to watch.
So I downloaded them as 'portable device download' from the iplayer site to my PC and then tried to drop them onto the card to watch. They're WMV files. But I get an error message stating "the device has either stopped responding or has been disconected".....not sure what I'm doing wrong and would be glad of some advice. All I'm trying to do is copy and paste them over to the phone card.
Anyone?
Can't explain that I'm afraid but I did read a while back that the files need to be synched through Windows Media Player and in the past that the file needs to pass a drm check before it will play - someone wrote even longer back that starting to play the fie on the PC so it checks drm, then moving it worked.
Do you get that message when moving anything else to your sd card?
jbh99blue said:
Anyone?
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This is a problem to do with transferring large files rather than the HD2's ability to play the WMV files. Try connecting the HD2 in Disk Drive mode - it worked for me.
You might want to try searching this site for an application called myplayer - it makes accessing iPlayer a lot less painful and allows higher-quality downloads.
Dark Fire said:
This is a problem to do with transferring large files rather than the HD2's ability to play the WMV files. Try connecting the HD2 in Disk Drive mode - it worked for me.
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And has just worked for me as well. Many thanks
Shasarak said:
You might want to try searching this site for an application called myplayer - it makes accessing iPlayer a lot less painful and allows higher-quality downloads.
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mPlayer download high quality videos in .mov format, for some strange reason it didn't want to play with my latest coreplayer. It was bit let down like
hassan said:
mPlayer download high quality videos in .mov format, for some strange reason it didn't want to play with my latest coreplayer. It was bit let down like
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Really? Odd. Have you tried playing them in TCPMP?
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Really? Odd. Have you tried playing them in TCPMP?
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I've tried that, and it just crashes my device when I try to play stuff.
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Really? Odd. Have you tried playing them in TCPMP?
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No i didn't really as i hate the UI, but if you thing it may work I'll install it tonight.
After downloading very long episode of East Enders other night and couldn't play it, it made me bit scared of trying again. I'll give it an other go any way.
Dark Fire said:
I've tried that, and it just crashes my device when I try to play stuff.
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Did you set the video renderer to GDI?
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Did you set the video renderer to GDI?
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I didn't - do I need to? I've just reinstalled TCPMP and now it won't run at all...
This may not solve your problem but you can use the BBC iPlayer on the HD2 with a simple change of settings. See point number 36 in the *Leo Hints & Tips* - Things you may not have known.
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I didn't - do I need to? I've just reinstalled TCPMP and now it won't run at all...
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TCPMP is more likely to be stable (i.e. not crash or lock up the phone) in GDI or Raw Framebuffer mode. So is CorePlayer, come to that.
If TCPMP is crashing before it even lets get you into the menu, that may be because it's trying to display the opening frame of the video that you previously told it to play, and doing that in DirectDraw mode. You can get around that by temporarily moving or renaming whichever file it's trying to display.
I have myPlayer and Coreplayer.
With myPlayer you get the latest viewable content ... but can search for anything. If you have the iPlayer website open that may be easier to search.
Once you've found what you want, just use myPlayer to download over wireless to your device (you can also stream for instant playback (even over 3g).
myPlayer has a view downloads screen with all the programmes you've downloaded. You select one, say view now ... it launches Coreplayer ... and it plays perfectly.
Never had a problem. This is infact one of the most amazingly together capabilities of the HD2 with this huge screen. In the evening I choose something to watch on the train on the way to the city the next day ... love it.
Paul.
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This may not solve your problem but you can use the BBC iPlayer on the HD2 with a simple change of settings. See point number 36 in the *Leo Hints & Tips* - Things you may not have known.
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I'd rather download the videos than stream them, so I don't have to worry about signal strength while I'm watching stuff...
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TCPMP is more likely to be stable (i.e. not crash or lock up the phone) in GDI or Raw Framebuffer mode. So is CorePlayer, come to that.
If TCPMP is crashing before it even lets get you into the menu, that may be because it's trying to display the opening frame of the video that you previously told it to play, and doing that in DirectDraw mode. You can get around that by temporarily moving or renaming whichever file it's trying to display.
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OK. I tried moving the file, but it's still crashing. I'll uninstall it again, later, and delete any settings that are left behind in the registry. And when I get TCPMP working again, I'll give those other modes a go.
Having got iplayer downloads to play on my HD2 having put them on the sd card I'm now having some playback problems.
Basically the quality of the picture and the sound is fine in principal but upon playback on WMP the programme pauses or sticks every second or so. The pause is only for a fraction of a second, just enough for the picture to momentarily catch or stick before continuing. I could live with this but at the same time the sound is also distorted making programmes unwatchable. If downloaded to my PC the same programmes are fine, it's not the download itself it's just once on the phone thats the problem.
Tried various programmes, all the same. Tried downloading direct from iplayer site to the card, still occurs.
Could this be a card problem. It's a sandisk 8Gb SDHC card. Any ideas?
I configured Opera to try direct streaming from iPlayer ... and it worked fine althought he picture was a little pixelated.
I know CorePlayer is a cost ... but if iPlayer is important to you, the combination of myPlayer and Coreplayer for iPlayer (and other channels) is incredibly simply ... live streaming is better quality ... and the download manager is completely seemless. Quality of downloaded video is genuinely perfect ... as good as anything at high bit rates I have on my Archos AV5100.
All I can say is that if you can stretch to Coreplayer ... I'd go with myPlayer.
Going through the website for either streaming or download (even on a PC) is so much more clunky.
Paul.
pgamble said:
All I can say is that if you can stretch to Coreplayer ... I'd go with myPlayer.
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I haven't tried this on an HD2, but on my TP2 you can quite good results from myplayer without having to buy CorePlayer; I use Streaming Media Player for streaming, and TCPMP to play the .mov downloads.
The attached very short video clip plays perfectly in sync (watch the drumsticks!) on my PC and on my wife's Touch HD, but is not in sync on my HD2 using the HTC video player.
The problem must therefore lie not with the video encoding, but with the HD2.
Please tell me if it is in sync or not on your HD2, and what ROM you are using so that I'll know if a ROM update might fix it. I'm using the stock 1.43 Vodafone UK ROM with all 4 hotfixes applied.
I really would appreciate any help in solving this issue since it's happening with nearly all my .mp4 videos on the HD2. The problem does not occur with .wmv files but I'd rather use .mp4 if I can.
Thanks.
Tested. Indeed it is a touch out of sync, playing with wmp.
deffo out of sync with vlc. really quite unnerving.
With CorePlayer out of sync, too.
Thanks for the feedback guys.
I've just flashed from stock Vodafone 1.43 ROM to Miri's WM65_21889_Sense25_V2.0 ROM (highly recommended), which is based on the 1.61 ROM and it's still out of sync. I've therefore sent a support request to HTC who are going to test it out on various devices and get back to my by the end of the week.
I'll let you know what they say. I've told them it's affecting other people too, so hopefully they won't just suggest a hard reset.
Confirmed: sound and video out of synch in HTCAlbum, WMP and CorePlayer. I'm running the t-mobile version of 1.43 with camera hotfix.
Is this video recorded via the phone or something else?
There have been cases where videos are encoded improperly, they play fine on PCs, but go OOS on hardware based players....several scene dvdrips have been subjected to such an error before.
kenkiller said:
Is this video recorded via the phone or something else?
There have been cases where videos are encoded improperly, they play fine on PCs, but go OOS on hardware based players....several scene dvdrips have been subjected to such an error before.
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Ripped from DVD using SPB Mobile DVD, and then converted to .mp4 using Handbrake. This plays fine on the Touch HD, so there's absolutely no reason why it shouldn't play fine on the HD2. It's not an exception either - almost all my .mp4 videos are very slightly out of sync. Most of the time you can't tell - you need something like the drumsticks to know for sure if it's in sync or not.
Hopefully I'll get an update tomorrow from HTC support, but I'm not holding my breath for a fix.
This needs sorting out, i've been using winmenc to compensate for the syn issue but this morning i played Harry Brown on it and it is still out of sync. Maybe this rip works ok without the sync fix, will have to see tonight
sync is fine on my Touch HD, very odd it doesnt play properly on the HD2
HTC need to take note of this, i'm surprised that more members haven't reported this complaint. There are 3 threads about it, i would expect an issue like this to have many many pages
Moandal said:
The attached very short video clip plays perfectly in sync (watch the drumsticks!) on my PC and on my wife's Touch HD, but is not in sync on my HD2 using the HTC video player.
The problem must therefore lie not with the video encoding, but with the HD2.
Please tell me if it is in sync or not on your HD2, and what ROM you are using so that I'll know if a ROM update might fix it. I'm using the stock 1.43 Vodafone UK ROM with all 4 hotfixes applied.
I really would appreciate any help in solving this issue since it's happening with nearly all my .mp4 videos on the HD2. The problem does not occur with .wmv files but I'd rather use .mp4 if I can.
Thanks.
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Yep, in sync on pc mashed up on hd2. I'm going to email HTC now with all this info, i urge everyone else does also
I noticed this using DivX a month or two ago, I stopped using video files after that. But I installed TCPMP last night and played The Hurt Locker on it, the audio seems to be more or less in sync, not perfect but certainly not the one or two seconds out of sync that is was on the DivX Player.
I have had audio and video sync issues on all my HTC devices, I just assumed it was due to the lack of processing power. But the HD2, that shouldn't struggle surely?
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I noticed this using DivX a month or two ago, I stopped using video files after that. But I installed TCPMP last night and played The Hurt Locker on it, the audio seems to be more or less in sync, not perfect but certainly not the one or two seconds out of sync that is was on the DivX Player.
I have had audio and video sync issues on all my HTC devices, I just assumed it was due to the lack of processing power. But the HD2, that shouldn't struggle surely?
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ofcourse not, my n96 played mp4's flawlessy, none of this syn issues or juddering. I can't quite get my nut round why it is struggling so much
I also can't understand people who say they can play divx through coreplayer flawlessy either, it drops frames like a mother F$%^&*
I really have moaned my nuts off about this so apologies to members who keep reading me moaning about it hahah!
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ofcourse not, my n96 played mp4's flawlessy, none of this syn issues or juddering. I can't quite get my nut round why it is struggling so much
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I am sure if I tinkered with the audio/video sync in TCPMP I could get it in sync, but it is bloody annoying. I might actually have a play now, see if I can actually get it perfectly in sync.
*Edit* Seems to work just fine without doing anything, on Windows Media Player and TCPMP.
I used a clip of The Hurt Locker and it seems to work just fine, as does the whole film.
The file I used.
http://www.mediafire.com/file/thzqjnmiyug/Movie.wmv
Kalavere said:
I am sure if I tinkered with the audio/video sync in TCPMP I could get it in sync, but it is bloody annoying. I might actually have a play now, see if I can actually get it perfectly in sync.
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that's not an issue. It's easy to get into sync in coreplayer (and probably TCPMP) the problem with those players is that they judder/drop frames so to me it is not usable no matter what settings you use.
I edited my last post, maybe it's just a Coreplayer/DivX player issue?
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I edited my last post, maybe it's just a Coreplayer/DivX player issue?
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i'll download that clip and try it. What converter did you use to get wmv?
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i'll download that clip and try it. What converter did you use to get wmv?
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Windows Movie Maker, just spliced and saved.
Kalavere said:
Windows Movie Maker, just spliced and saved.
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what was the original file extension, avi? dvdrip?
I've done a search and read many posts about coreplayer performance on the HD2. Most have no problems but some do and i'm one of them.
I have no problem playing the files using these settings from member Shasarak (thanks mate):
Options/Video and activate Dither, then "smooth zoom always" rather than "smooth zoom 50%". You will get substantially better performance if you then go into the DirectDraw settings page, choose "YUY2" as your overlay format, leave "use device stretching" checked, and uncheck the other two boxes.
I have tried all other settings and combinations but i agree the above gives the best performance.
However, i am still experiencing occassional judder and it's annoying me.
1). would upgrading to stock ROM 1.66 make a difference?
2). is there ANYTHING else i can do to stop the judder? i've already tried disabling background tasks, wifi etc
3). The audio is also very slightly out of sync, it's delayed, it's minor but i notice it. It happens on all videos, they are all .avi I've not seen anyone complain of this before.
Thanks
With regards to uadio sync:
Menu --> Tools --> Settings
Select the 'Advanced' page
Manual A/V offset let's you adjust the audio sync
The judder is most likely due to the format the videos are encoded in just eating too much CPU. How do you encode them?
kilrah said:
The judder is most likely due to the format the videos are encoded in just eating too much CPU. How do you encode them?
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I don't encode them, just downloaded movies in the common divx/xvid format. I played movies on my old N96but re-encoded them to mp4 as it didn't play avi and i never tried coreplayer on it.
Perhaps i should try re-encoding, but don't see why this phone couldn't handle a standard 700mb divx avi.
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With regards to uadio sync:
Menu --> Tools --> Settings
Select the 'Advanced' page
Manual A/V offset let's you adjust the audio sync
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cheers mate, you are the man! putting a -0.300 has made it much better, not sure why it would be out like that on all movies? I'm very happy with that What do the other 2 settings do - soft drop tolerance & hard drop tolerance?
now just to fix the juddering.
I've found, and i think someone else suggested this in another thread, that if you pause it for a moment it sorts itself out. Would rather not have to do that but i don't see a way around it
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Perhaps i should try re-encoding, but don't see why this phone couldn't handle a standard 700mb divx avi.
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The standard ~1h30 700MB divx movies I've tried to play all worked nicely. But sorter ones of the same size (meaning more bitrate) could start being too much load. Just try and do a benchmark in coreplayer with a video that causes problems, if you have less than about 150% average playing speed you might start getting drops.
It may help to put the phone in "Airplane Mode"; if it's checking for email messages in the background while playing it will judder like crazy. Use the task manager to kill off any other running applications as well....
I come to the conclusion that this phone just can not handle playing divx/xvid in avi very well, and i'm not sure why it can't.
I have gone back to my old ways of converting the video to mp4 using winavi mp4 converter, this also cures the problem of any files that have ac3 audio as it converts that as well.
On my 8 year old computer it would take 30 mins to convert a 700mb film, i have since bought a quad core Dell running 64 bit windows 7 and it converts in less than 10 mins!!
Smooth as butter now but a shame i have to go back to doing this. But at least the files will play in coreplayer, windows media and htc's player so plenty of choice
If anyone wants the settings i use for winavi mp4 converter then just ask away. It's not free but mine was if you get what i mean
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I HAVE FOUND THE REAL PROBLEM, IT'S MY COREPLAYER! IT STARTED STUTTERING THE MP4 FILE THIS MORNING, WHEN I SWITCHED TO WINDOWS MEDIA OR HTC PLAYER IT WAS FINE 9OBVIOUSLY COULDN'T DO THIS BEFORE AS NEITHER OF THOSE PLAYERS SUPPORT AVI)
I JUST TRIED COREPLAYER AGAIN AND IT'S PLAYINNG THE SAME MP4 FILE FINE NOW, MUST BE SOMETHING WRONG WITH MY COREPLAYER, WILL GET ANOTHER VERSION.
WHAT A DRAMA AND SORRY FOR BORING YOU ALL WITH IT LOL
I just downloaded mobo player and the codec file for it. I wanted to play video's directly on the internet on my xoom. I thought downloading this would help me but video's are still not playing?
I do not understand the media directory thing is there anything I am missing.
I picked media directory to be my downloads in my Astro file. This is right out of the box. I have done nothing to unlock or root this device.
Can anyone please explain to me what I need to do to play video's from a web page on the net. For example I went to a site for Las Vegas wanted to play video of Terry Feder show would not play?
I'm pretty good at following directions. I understand PC very well just learning about cell phones and tablets.
I only downloaded the codec file because the video still wasn't playing.
I do not want to do anything that will mess up my xoom?
Sorry I think I should have posted this in questions forum.
Did you try tapping and holding the video you want to play then selecting soft decoding? You have to do that to a large majority of videos for the xoom.
Yes I did. When the video appears on the screen there is a small blue dice in the center with a ? on it. There seems to be lots of videos that won't play. Is there anything in the codec file that I need to change. I saw the soft decoding for one of the video extensions?
Just found something that says default using soft decoding in settings I checked it. Still no luck. You tube videos play fine
When I tap the video the screen turns light blue but nothing comes up and their are no options available to select.
you said your trying to play videos from a site. What site and what video format? Link?
Go to metacafe.com any video it does not work. That is just one of the sites. I cannot tell what the video format is? How can i see that. On the right hand bottom of my screen it says autoplay ON. I do not know if that is from Mobo app or something else.
took a spin around the world wide web and seems the videos on your site metacafe are FLV files.
go to the market.. install one of these in the list and see if any will work.
not sure which ones are compatible with the xoom so just go in and check on the tech details. better yet go there with your xoom so it will filter out which ones will work.
you can also just search "flv player" w/o quotes in the market and see what you come up with.
https://market.android.com/search?q=flv+player&so=1&c=apps
That site seems to use a bunch of different kinds of video. Hulu videos wont work, but the flash videos will if you install flash, obviously. Moboplayer is for mp4, avi, mpeg, and other types of video commonly not found streaming on websites.
Just called Motorola and figured out that Flash Player needed to be downloaded. Do I feel stupid. I thought it came with it and was on it when I got it. I then went back to the site and the video played.
Do you think MoboPlayer will interfere with anything on my tablet. Should I remove it?
Or should I leave it. Don't even know if it works on the xoom. It did not work to get the FLV file working that is supports. Any input would be appreciated.
keep it. it can play other movie formats.
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keep it. it can play other movie formats.
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I never heard of this player, anyone have any screenshots or details on how it works?
Alxoom33 said:
I never heard of this player, anyone have any screenshots or details on how it works?
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it just works
amazing that an XDA member of a xoom tablet has not heard about moboplayer. thats wild.. rockplayer is made by the same dev that made moboplayer. mobo player is a really great video app! a must have..