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New x7500 owner with some questions...

I posted here in the forums about a week ago wondering if I should go with an x7500 or x7501, but after weighing the pros and cons, I went ahead and got the HTC black x7500 from MobilePlanet. They had it in stock, and since I had seen posts on various forums about people waiting for months for the $850 deal from Amazon, I went ahead and paid the extra for the x7500. I figure I made out OK since I now have the front video cam and TomTom.
Anyways, I have a few questions...please excuse me if these are already answered, I just want to make sure I don't screw anything up. I'm a long-time PPC user, all the way back to the iPaq 3600-series, so I don't mind tinkering with anything if I have to.
1. Can I install the Dopod U1000 WM6 English upgrade on my unlocked X7500? Is this the same as what HTC will be releasing soon?
It's this link that I saw in an earlier post: http://210.64.124.194/download/U1000_SEA_ENG_WM6_Upgrade_20070727.zip
2. If so, do I need run the 'SPL' and 'SuperCID' programs I have seen referenced, even with an unlocked phone? I am using the phone on AT&T in the U.S. (3G/HSDPA works in my area)
3. Should I just wait for the official version of WM6 to be released in the next month or so? I really hate to be in limbo on installing programs and getting all of stuff setup on the device, and then having to wipe it all and start over.
Thanks in advance, I know this is the right forum for the answers!

im running the wm6 OS you mentioned and it runs Great! I too have the x7500. I also had to run the cid unlock even tho its unlocked. I tried the install without doing the cid thing and it froze my x7500 in boatload. I can't remember if I did the other thing you mentioned,I think I did tho.

JasjarMan said:
im running the wm6 OS you mentioned and it runs Great! I too have the x7500. I also had to run the cid unlock even tho its unlocked. I tried the install without doing the cid thing and it froze my x7500 in boatload. I can't remember if I did the other thing you mentioned,I think I did tho.
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Glad to know that I'm on the right track...I'll try it this weekend and see how I come out, hopefully I still have a functional 7500 at the end of it all.
I wonder why the Dopod version of WM6 is already out, but HTC still hasn't released it? Aren't they one and the same?

On it's way

Hi all,
Maybe a little late in the game but my T8285 is on it's way. I'm on ATT in Hawai'i so hopefully shouldn't have any problems. Quick question. Did most of you flash your ROM right off the bat or did you use it for a while before doing so?
Ho'okani

Hookani said:
Hi all,
Maybe a little late in the game but my T8285 is on it's way. I'm on ATT in Hawai'i so hopefully shouldn't have any problems. Quick question. Did most of you flash your ROM right off the bat or did you use it for a while before doing so?
Ho'okani
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Best advice I can offer you is get to know your device as it is first. Read up on the wiki and just enjoy your phone. Not everyone flashes a new or cooked rom and most people don't change rom until they find something wrong with it or just fancy the look of another device.

I didn't flash a other rom right away. I just started getting to know my phone first like Fallen Spartan said and learning more about the whole flashing scene. I think I flashed my first rom after about 3 or 4 weeks.

I wanted to enjoy an unspoilt phone for a bit, and it was my first Windows Mobile phone... I lasted about a week

I try and wait until the warranty period is over..... just in case something goes wrong....

Neville.Holland said:
I try and wait until the warranty period is over..... just in case something goes wrong....
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Warranty period in different countries vary. Some countries its 3 months, some its 12 months. To wait 12 months can be extremely hard for people

the telstra rom internet setting are locked in and don't work on AT&T so I flashed a custom rom the day I got it. I mean come on, if you gotta flash a rom anyways, might as well make it one of Miri's!

Got my HD yesterday and got it all set up. Playing with it using the stock ROM. Stuck in my SIM and all works no problem after inputting the ATT settings. The only thing that I can't do (which will probably make me flash the ROM) is that Opera browser is locked to Telstra so I can't use Opera unless there is some registry setting or something I can change. Anyone know how to change this? I can use IE though.
Just gonna use it with the stock ROM and find all the quirks that bother me and see if a ROM flash is needed. I'm sure I'll have some questions though and I have been going thru the HD wiki.
Ho'okani
P.S. Got my HD thru modernmobile.ca and must say the experience was good. Very responsive to email inquiries.

[REQ] 1$ for WM6.5 ROM for HP Data Messenger -> subscribe!!!

I would be happy to send 1$ to whom will post the WM6,5 ROM for HP Data Messenger.
I guess others will join my offer to let the amount increase!
Thx
PDNERI

muahahahha "1$" you're kidding, right?

While I understand you really wanting 6.5. But what can 6.5 do for you that 6.1 with some extra plugins cannot?

lol for one doller you wont get................!
I might get a data messenger soon
I will look if its possible, but I guess its not as no one has cooked a rom for it.

Im 2x in .(2 devices)

Ofc
I'm in, would have no problems to donate the person who like to spend their quality time to cook a rom for my phone

ROM For IPAQ Data Messenger
you give me the link where to download Windows Mobile 6.5 for my iPAQ Data Messenger????
I'M italian
Thank you

Is there any way to install oficial ROM in an Telefonica Movistar iPAQ. I want to flash a ROM for SKU FB149AA#ABE in an FB189AA#ABE, hardware is the same but Movistar don't publish their tuned update like Vodafone.

sound like someone able to slip through rom after hpruu check and before the unit reboot? seems risky but probably a viable way to flash rom.
but then no one figure dnw way yet so it may brick the device for a unsuccessful flash...

Thanks. But I can't get any ROM for my device. Without it I can't slip through a ROM if I don't have an original ROM.

i would go even for 10$.....

Any news for Hp ipaQ Data messenger 6.5?

do nothing 4 my ipaq data messenger (

I don't think this will ever be happening.

kekkle said:
I don't think this will ever be happening.
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grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

soldato said:
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
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Lol, just get rid of the phone. Got rid of mine long ago and now super happy with my HTC Desire.

kekkle said:
Lol, just get rid of the phone. Got rid of mine long ago and now super happy with my HTC Desire.
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i understand you but this isn't our
kekkle said:
"desire"
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......
i hope that here there are some engineer that can help us.
i think that is not right to buy a device (hp or not) that isn't a phone or a smartphone. an upgrade is mandatory otherwise this platform maybe dead.
here in Italy you can spend about 200$ or less for a nokia 5800 expres music, but this is a phone, navigator, etc etc.....only 200$ and you can use this phone for more than one day without battery problem.
i use for some months an htc device and i think that the problem is windows mobile 6 or 6.1 and the wm 6.5 i better because you can use more the finger but is Windows Mobile......
regards,
Sold

Help! Beginner Here! HTC HD2 on T-Mobile UK

Hi guys
Hoping someone would be kind enough to take the time out to answer some questions I have regarding my HD2 on T-Mobile UK and how I go about modifying it etc
Please bare with me....this is the first smartphone ive ever had and am totally new to all of this! :S
1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
Would really appreciate any help/advice anyone is willing to give.....the site seems very oriented to people who know what they're doing lol and im struggling to find a section for novice users like myself! I really like that idea of having a phone I can customise whenever I like.....just not sure at all of how to start going about it......
Cheers!!!

1) Does the fact that its locked to T-Mobile (and has some form of their own software on it) mean I am unable to make use of the many updates or software tweaks that appear on this site?
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The fact that it's locked to T-Mobile doesn't affect the majority of software on here. Sometimes, there'll be discrepancies between what's expected on your phone, and what's actually on your phone. This will be rare, and usually resolved on here anyway.
2) I see people talking about Manilla...is this the software HTC place on top on WM6.5?
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Yes - Manila is the Sense UI.
3) I see a lot of people talking about flashing their ROMs....what does this actually mean? Is it possible for me to get rid of all T-mobile crap on my phone and be able to apply updates, fixes etc whenever I want?
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Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
4) I know of some people who have Jailbreak their iPhone allowing them to run loadsa different software on it etc....is something similar possible on the HD2?
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You don't need to "jailbreak" windows mobile. Question 3 covers this really.
5) Basically it all comes down to the fact that I dont like the basic taskbar look on my phone (really want a colourfull taskbar and some form of % battery indicator) and want to make it look a bit more modern/exciting....and Ive seen loadsa uploads on this site about other users homescreens etc and want to know how i go about doing that? Im not sure if having a T-Mobile HD2 will stop me from modifying it in that way?
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Having a T-Mobile phone won't stop you changing that at all. Just get used to these forums and searching them and you'll find most things you need. There's certainly taskbars on here. You're better off looking in either the root Leo forum (one step above this forum), or the themes and apps one. Also, the Sense UI has a lot of mods in other forums. The Blackstone, for example, had the Sense UI available in a ROM way before the HD2 was released, so that's also a good source of information.
Just keep reading and you'll be fine. We were all new here once
Have fun!

Thanks very much!! appreciate it!
however, u say here:
Flashing the ROM changes the core of the phone. It's often done to do exactly what you said - to get rid of the software that's there by default, but you don't want it. Another more common reason for ROM flashing, is ROM updates that include software fixes (as just happened with 1.48), or windows updates.
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just wondering why I wouldnt want to apply ROM updates and windows updates? would it not be better to do this than wait for official updates from T-Mobile that will prob take forever to emerge?
I've seen on some forums that there is already an official (yet not appearing on the HTC site) HD2 ROM upgrade....but are you saying you advise against this? Or are u saying I dont want to change the core of the phone....but applying updates etc is still possible?
Sorry, excuse my ignorance!
Cheers

I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.

can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance

johncmolyneux said:
I don't understand why you think I'm advising against ROM updates, but I'm not
Basically, it's up to you to weigh up whether or not you want to do a ROM update by looking at what's new and what's removed (if anything).
As far as waiting for T-Mobile to release their own version of the ROM.... yeah, you're right. I wouldn't bother.
I've just updated my HD2 with the 1.48 release, and it's a LOT faster. It's still new though, and a couple of issues have already been found. It's always "at your own risk" whenever you flash the ROM or install mods.
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ah ok sorry...i must have misred your original reply! apologies
ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
Many thanks again!!

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can i ask you what come in the box with tmobile handset, carry pouch? micro sd? an such. and did you get it from tmobile themselves or a phone outlet like carphonewarehouse, thanks in advance
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hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!

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ok...final question....if i wanted to upgrade to this new ROM? could u maybe quickly explain how I go about doing this? sorry to be a pain! Its just i was under the impression i couldnt do this as long as it was locked onto T-Mobile (or any network for that matter)
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Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!

johncmolyneux said:
Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
Since it's a new phone, I'd recommend getting used to it and the available mods on here. You don't need to be able to flash the ROM to install most of the mods, so you can still tweak your phone like mad!
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Ok great - yeah good idea! Ive not used it enough to warrant any need to upgrade the ROM and im pretty happy with its speed etc at the moment....prob because i aint got any apps on it apart from a YouTube one (since the lovely people at T-Mobile remove the YouTube app that comes with the phone!)
I'll have a play around with some of the mods on the site and try get it looking much sweeter!lol
Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!

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Thanks for all your help mate......very much appreciated!!
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No worries mate. Have fun, search and ask. Also, be prepared to hard reset if/when you brick your phone for the 1st time

giopirolli said:
hi....sure! no probs...
i got the handset (obviously lol) charger and micro usb lead (which is quite short and frustrating actually) also got a 2gb micro sd card! There was no pouch - although as far as I am aware HTC supply a pouch...which t-mobile (and all other networks as far as im aware) remove....to force u to buy one! So i bought the official HTC leather one online for £10 - which is quite nice!
I just walked into a t-mobile store in glasgow and asked for the phone...and they had it! i had been arguing all week on the phone with t-mobile upgrades and retentions.....they wanted to charge me £380 upgrade charge as i have a 50% line reduction.......but when i walked into the store they done it for me for £50!!! and kept my discount!!!! so now i get 1000mins, unlimited txts and internet for £20 a month! if ur looking for the phone and dont get quoted a good deal keep shopping....there's always someone willing to do a good deal!
happy times all round!
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hi thanks for quick reply
am glad you get micro sd, they could of threw the pouch in too LOL, oh well suppose its not that expensive. (know what you mean bout charger cable, same with diamond2 lol) i`m with orange at the mo there not releasing the phone on there network at all i dont think, got my diamond2 from carphone warehouse 10 months ago. its been put in for repair 2 times already due to touch screen failure, last time i put it in it got sent to htc who declared the warrenty void because of certain applications on the phone and have demanded £70 to fix even though i pay insurance every month. decided am not paying gonna cancel direct debit as it was nothing to do with software why i put it in, in the 1st place, think its ridiculous! i`d flashed a cooked rom on my phone and unblocked it with hard spl, i reflashed original htc rom before putting it in the shop but forgot to reblock my phone again, thats what they mean by CERTAIN APPLICATIONS. so beware if flashing your device with non htc rom and you have to claim on insurance for anything, you have to reflash everything back to original htc factory software/roms. to be honest hard spl(unblocking programme to flash any rom) is not out there yet for hd2, i dont think. but just a little tip for you..
by the way lol, i cant seem to get my hands on a hd2 anywhere, there like rocking horse sh#t!! lol am getting really bored watching videos about the device on pocketnow.com now tho Grrrrrrrrrrrrr lol i NEED one soon!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! lol
just had an email from tmobile, apparently its on its way!!!!!!!!! yaaaaaaaaaay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Sorry - you're absolutely right. You can't upgrade with that ROM. The experts on here are working on something called "Hard SPL" which basically allows you to flash any old ROM you want, regardless of your ROM version at the time.
The ROM that's bouncing round at the moment is an official HTC one, and can only be used on phones that aren't locked to providers.
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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.

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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.

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I don't know what the goldcard method is, so I couldn't advise him on it.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=591314

hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!

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hmmm this goldcard method sounds promising! ill check it out! thanks for that Gajet!
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Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???

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Erm you can flash the newly "released" Official HTC WWE ROM using the goldcard method. I did so on my T-Mobile HD2. The benefit of doing so is to regain the applications T-Mobile removed like You-Tube, CoPilot trial and Jetcet print. Also you get the advantage of being able to flash future patches directly from HTC, instead of waiting for T-mobile to get their hands on them and break it.
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I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday

Double post pls discard

babyshaq said:
Hey buddy, did you manage to flash your rom then?
Like you I'm very new to this scene (coming from an iphone) so just wanted to know if you had successfully flashed your rom. Which rom did you use because I can see a lot of different versions of this 1.48 and don't know which one to use.
Surely if you flash your rom and it shows the youtube app as well as copilot, tmobile will void your warranty wont they???
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Hey...i havent given it a go yet! as im new to this i decided to just play around with some little tweaks....like changing my taskbar and modifying some other options...like removing the "scroll down for more options" button during a call so the options are always present..........before i attempted anything big like flashing my ROM! lol
not sure regarding the warranty issue....id think so....tho if i had to send it in for repair (touch wood i wont) then id just restore it back to its original version 1st....

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I agree ...flashed my o2 locked phone yesterday
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hey......to which version? 1.48? noticed any improvements?

O2 uk new rom (end of this month)

After weeks of calling O2 and moaning on and on about the locked old 1.43 rom today I have been told by O2 we WILL finaly have a new rom (i guess 1.72) last day of march!

Finally

We were suppose to have it 2 weeks ago...I wont be holding my breath about this...we will see...

Unbelievable how long it's taken o2 to give people an official upgrade. Thank the lord for xda-devs, eh? HSPL & freedom all the way!

i bet its 1.66 rom o2 are really slacking at the moment....

Any clues where it will be available to download?

Really now so what is this the third or fourth date that we have heard. I will believe it when i see it as they say.
and yes I am pessimistic, especially when it comes to O2 and updates...
Also MidnightDraven it will be on the HTC site or may HTC Pedia, if it gets leaked....

Ahh good. thanks for that.
Lets hope it turns up then.

I doubt 1.72 .. It's incredibly frustrating dealing with them. I understand the reasons, but they don't help at all. And after all this waiting, chances are that they have only been looking at 1.48 and 1.66....... O2 suck.

It's about bloody time too - I just hope they actually keep to their word this time
Has anyone else confirmed this? I'll try give 'em a ring after work later.......£10 says they will tell me a different date!

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It's about bloody time too - I just hope they actually keep to their word this time
Has anyone else confirmed this? I'll try give 'em a ring after work later.......£10 says they will tell me a different date!
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At least they might understand you when you mention "ROM" or "Update" as they thought I wanted a new phone, even after explaining it in an email with links to HTC's ROM updates.

Are O2 usually so bad at releasing ROMs? I have personally never flashed one before, but i've waited, as you all have, ages for an official update.

Yeh they are
got the wrong thread a little...

I must be missing something here but.....who cares? I have an O2 Leo and the only time I would consider using an official O2 rom is if I was returning it for repair like I had to recently.

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I must be missing something here but.....who cares? I have an O2 Leo and the only time I would consider using an official O2 rom is if I was returning it for repair like I had to recently.
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Well I would like to flash my first ROM, and preferably one I know for sure will work. So I am quietly optimistic about the new ROM and the features it will have on it. Otherwise I will probably sit with the one I have for a bit longer before considering using a cooked ROM.

Kalavere said:
Well I would like to flash my first ROM, and preferably one I know for sure will work. So I am quietly optimistic about the new ROM and the features it will have on it. Otherwise I will probably sit with the one I have for a bit longer before considering using a cooked ROM.
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Install HSPL and flash any rom you want. Providing you follow the instructions there is absolutely no need to use a network rom, none of them can hold a candle to a decent cooked rom. You will probably never see WM 6.5.5 on any official network rom yet there are various cooked roms that offer the opportunity to experience Windows Mobile and capacitive screens working reasonably well together for the first time. Xannytech's Evolution 1.4 which I'm using is just one of them.

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Install HSPL and flash any rom you want. Providing you follow the instructions there is absolutely no need to use a network rom, none of them can hold a candle to a decent cooked rom. You will probably never see WM 6.5.5 on any official network rom yet there are various cooked roms that offer the opportunity to experience Windows Mobile and capacitive screens working reasonably well together for the first time. Xannytech's Evolution 1.4 which I'm using is just one of them.
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I think you have been the catalyst in my trying a new ROM, I have HSPL installed now and I am going to have a look around for a ROM to suit me.
Oh and by the way, loving the avatar, Bill is a legend!

any more news on if this just mightbe genuine?

Good luck, t-mobile promissed us the same thing by the end of this month and we got given the original ROM (1.43) probably because they thought , nobody will know it's not an update
I thought sod it so flashed hardspl and then the official HTC rom (1.66), gone from rebooting the thing 5+ times a day to once every 3 days or so (which I can live with)

I doubt 1.72 .. It's incredibly frustrating dealing with them.
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They already released 1.72 for German O2.