All,
I understand that the Herald does not support TomTom Nav 6. In your expert opinion, will the application ever run on the Herald, given the lower processor clock speed on this device?
How about other navigation software?
I'm seriously considering buying a Herald, but some time in the next 12 months, would really like GPS with Navigation software as well.
Many thanks to all who reply.
James.
I have been running TomTom 6 on my Herald since I bought it, no problems at all.
I also run TomTom6 with no problem on my herald.
TomTom 6 starts when turning on phone
Hallo,
Installed TomTom 6 on my Herald. Works fine but....
Everytime i turn on the phone TomTom starts by itself. Any suggestions how to correct this?
thanx in advance
Not regarding TomTom but "Other Navigator Apps":
My experience with Navigon MN6 (6.15) was reaaally bad. It was so slow that you could not use it.
Screen refresh rate was about 1 fps, although voice commands were almost in time. I had a few other apps installed, but not many (phoneAlarm, SPB Mobile Shell, Pocket Informant 7).
Can anyone confirm if MN6 is generally so slow on the P4350? My ROM version is 5.4.407.1 GER, which I think is one of the latest (apart from WM6).
iGo Myway 2006 works fine, no problems at all.
MN6 is a heavy application. Other apps as spb mobile shell en pocket informant are to. Used them and uninstalled them. The herald is a 200mhz thingie ;-) TomTom Nav 6 is ok. Overclocked to 247mhz and everything works fine. Apart from the "I start myself actions from TomTom" ;-)
Yes, MN6 is quite heavy as all the previous versions of Navigon have been.
But I can't see how PI7 or Mobile Shell can make it slower, when they are not running. As long as they are not running they should not consume any CPU time, right? And memory was not the issue with MN6, I checked available mem before starting MN6 and it was well over 25 MB free (data+program store), which should be sufficient - at least it was on my MDA Pro.
But for me that was the only disappointing experience with the Herald so far.
I just compared MN5 and TomTom6 with my P4350.
I liked the highly detailed Maps of MN5 better than TomToms BUT TomTom has the better features:
MN5 does not turn on bluetooth for GPS automaticaly.
Very annonyingly, MN5 does not disable hibernate and sleepmodes of WindowsMobile automaticaly. The usage of the PDA-Pen ist mandatory to mess with MN5. Menues and UI-Layout is a whole lot better in TomTom. TomTom reacts faster to userinput and needs less resources.
The only negative thing about TomTom are the voice commands of the german version. They are confusing most of the time. Sometimes you need to retranslate and interpret them. The voicecommands of MN5 are vastly clearer and more accurate.
In my view, iGO Myway 2006 plus is currently the best compromise between Navigon and Tomtom.
High performance, very good usability, even more features than Tomtom, quality of the voice commands is almost on the standard of MN.
Also highly recommendable is Medion GoPal 2.x AE/PE. Not quite as nice graphics, but with the text-to-speech engine voice commands are even more precise than Navigon without TTS.
I have run TT6 on my Herald without any issues at all, the device is overclocked to 240MHz but other than that no mods are required.
Cheers
LB
I have tomtom but i having issues with answer calls which i am unable to do so.
after running some tests on this it seems that when receiving a call and using tomtom u can't answer it because the application for some reason doesn't give control to the phone app. You have press the start menu key and then u can answer the call or hang up. nothing to do with the ram its more so that tomtom needs to update there application for WM6
Why do we have two threads for exactly the same problem?????
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310156
Please let us keep this forum as clean as possible.
Thanks
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Anyone with experience of both care to voice an opinion?
I'm a long time TT user, but I'm getting a bit sick of performance issues of v6 on the Tytn.
With the advent of a GPS with built in TMC and Destinator's compatibility with it, I'm very seriously considering it.
However I saw an Acer PNA with Destinator on it and the UI looked pretty unwieldy, so I'm not too sure.
Any opinions?
Ouuuh Destinator is Bull****. TomTom an Navigon are the best, i prefer Navigon, but v6 ist not yet out for PDA and there isn't a "activation fix" for v5 on WM5 (for WM2003 and PNA there is a keygen), so i'm using TomTom 6 on my Prophet, without problems or performance issues or something like that.
totallytechie said:
Anyone with experience of both care to voice an opinion?
I'm a long time TT user, but I'm getting a bit sick of performance issues of v6 on the Tytn.
With the advent of a GPS with built in TMC and Destinator's compatibility with it, I'm very seriously considering it.
However I saw an Acer PNA with Destinator on it and the UI looked pretty unwieldy, so I'm not too sure.
Any opinions?
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I don't have a Tytn, but an ooooooold Himalaya, until a few weeks, I was using Tomtom, but I decided to change because of too much bugs. Pocket pc freezing, Tomtom crashes because SD card not found anymore, crash when someone calling and it is worse in Tomtom 6.
So I found I-go, and I'm very happy, it's fast, it doesn't crash, it is very stable, it is very easy to use, I won't come back to Tomtom for sure....
Cheers,
.Fred
ps.: http://www.i-go.com
Navigon on WM5
Hi Folks,
I have Navigon Mobile Navigator 5, version 5.2.6 with a cracker to allow "backing up" maps. If anyone is interested, happy to share. It worked out of the box with my Magician (MDA Compact with WM2003) and no problems installing on MDA VARIO II (Tytn) with WM5.
I don't use TMC as I do not have a receiver.
Navigon interface is OK, with good loud spoken instructions, great when driving in Rome on hols.
Regards
Richardracer
I use both D6 and tom tom V6 on my trion.....no problems at all with both programs.......but i do prefer then TOM TOM over the D6......i reckon the interface is a lot better and load up is quicker from the start and after putting in an address the TOM TOM seems faster to load.....few hang ups on TOM TOM but all i had to do was go back to the today screen without closing the program and then back to TOM TOM....and everything is fine again.....
Destinator 6
I bought Destinator 6 last week.
While TomTom is faster and the UI is nicer, I do prefer the directions given by Destinator. They are easier to follow while driving. The Australian map is also much more accurate that the one coming with TomTom 6. Before I was using a VDO device mounted in my car, and I guess Destinator is closer to the VDA interface that's why I prefer the Destinator.
There are a few very annoying bugs with Destinator 6 on my imate JasJam. Most of the time there will be no sound: so no vocal instructions.
From time to time it will refuse to see my BT GPS, while both TT6 and the GPS test application has no problem opening the serial port.
If I reset the JasJam then Destinator find the BT GPS without any problems.
If Destinator vocal instructions worked, it would be a winner for me. It has never crashed on me so far. While TT6 crashes from time to time.
I think TomTom v6 is the best after using them both.
Hello all.
I have a Cingular branded 8125.
At this time, I have Molski's 3.0.0.0 AKU 3.2 Rom loaded
I have also tried to clock the cpu to 240mhz
It seems the phone does NOT handle multi tasking very well.
The gps works well if you do not ask the phone to do much such as make or take a call. At times even without calls on over the phone while the gps is running. It just starts to crawl very slow, screen re-draws become very slow.
I have tried several GPS applications that run just fine on normal pda's such as the Dell Axim x30-x51v line, these all have 624mhz cpu's.
I have even used these gps applications on the Dell Axim x5 300mhz pda with a Socket Bluetooth cf card without this problem.
My main goal for this phone was to have both, mobile phone with mobile gps
Does anyone have a suggestion on my next move?
I use Bluetooth gps receivers and the software I have now is:
iGuidance 2.1
Dell NavteQ GPS
Belkin GPS "similar as the Dell"
PocketMap Navigator R3 3.12 USA
MS Streets & Trips 2006
Well, try to overclock it.. it really helpd me!
I have also tried to clock the cpu to 240mhz
What speed works for you?
nickxbe said:
Well, try to overclock it.. it really helpd me!
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Try a Molski AKU 2.x rom and watch the difference. iGuidance doesn't like AKU 3.x. It's not the GPS unit because the spoken directions kept up with the positioning, it was the graphics that wouldn't move at all or, if they did, once every few minutes. You can use AKU 3.x or you can have working GPS software, your choice. Also, note that iGuidance is now up to 3.0.1.
GPS Software Working With NO Problems!!
I've been using the OnCourse 5 system with a BT-339 SiRF-lll receiver. I usually overclock my 8125 to either 228 or 240 while using the receiver and mapping software. I'm also using Molski's 2.26 30MB ROM.
One other thing I do before firing it up is that I disable all my other Today plugins and reboot -- loading ONLY the navigational software. This seems to free up the resources needed to not only run the GPS, but to also handle phone calls, as well.
However -- YMMV -- depending on how much available memory your phone has otherwise.
Thanks for the input.
Looks like I shall change roms to Molski's 2.26 and give it another try
Hello,
I'm running a stock 8525 (ROM v1.34.502.1) with several hacks (works great). I just purchased a Qstarz BT-Q818 and it worked out of the box with Google Maps and even Microsoft Streets and Trips 2006. Neither of these products are fully-capable GPS navigational products.
I've seen questions and comments about TomTom 6, upgrades from 5, work with WM6, etc, - but I'm curious if anyone can share their experiences installing and using TomTom 6 on Windows Mobile 5. I plan to use US maps, but I don't know if the selected country's maps makes a difference to the reliability, ease-of-use, or installation experience. I don't plan to migrate to WM6 for a bit (until I have a real good reason).
Thanks in advance for your opinions!
Well, I can't help you with Tom Tom on WM05 with this phone.
I had my phone for all of 1 phone call, text message and MMS before I went to WM-6.
That said, I've got Tom Tom 6 with the latest (US and Canada) maps on it, and it works great. Mind you, it isn't as fast (overall) as the dedicated Tom Tom units are, but it gets the job done. In fact on the new LVSW it is pretty close to being at the same speed as a GO300. I'm using it with a Visiontac VGPS-700 bluetooth antenna.
Also, I've got a Motorola MPx and used Tom Tom extensively on that. It is running windows mobile 2003 (IIRC). Obviously its way slower than the 8525, but it worked just fine and got me where I needed to go.
The hardest part of the install on either unit is to get Tom Tom to "see" the bluetooth GPS. And, actually on the MPx it is way easier than on the 8525 with WM06.
I know, I know... you wanted experiance with WM05... but thought that this would help at least a bit.
Thank you, this is helpful. If it turns out I'm the last person on the planet still running WM5, then I'll have to upgrade. Basically, my ROM was ok out of the box and I applied my hacks and apps without any trouble, so I haven't considered an upgrade given the stability vs risk + stability considerations.
I run TT6 on WM5 and I love it. I have had zero stability issues and it works great with my HOLUX 236 BT GPS. I also can receive/send email, calls, internet all while it is running in the background with little to no issues. Once and a while, when I am updating traffic (BOSTON,NYC AREA) performance can be a little slow if I'm multitasking. Other than that, it's flawless for me!
Ditto on the good reports - have run tomtom6 for many 10-15 hour drives, never had any issues. The phone integration features of TT6 are handy - being able to call a POI (eg, pizza shop) from TT6 is sometimes useful. Switches seamlessly between calls and the nav screen without dramas. Handles loss of GPS signal or a slightly incorrect map fine.
Er, you may very well be the last person with WM5 , I've got WM6 as well
@ Guy... lol, except for the guy before you who is running it on WM05.
Oh, I forgot to mention, On my Mpx, I could take two calls with Tom Tom running in the background before the phone would lock up and I'd have to soft reset.
With the 8525, I've had a couple of days where I was on the phone, and forgot Tom Tom was running and it ran from the time I went to work until I left... a 10-12 hour day making calls sending sms and mms, some internet searches etc...never locked the phone up.
I ran TT6 on the stock Vodafone UK WM5 ROM and it was ok but every now and then it would lock up and I would have to end the app and start it up again.
I upgraded to WM6 for one reason SPEED, I don't know about your WM5 ROM but mine was slow. I got so fed up of waiting for 2 seconds after I pressed the red button for a call to end. It did my t*ts in.
Anyway, running TT6 on WM6 has been a superior experience so far as it has not locked up once (on Black 2.0/2.5). Only small gripe is that when a call comes in while using TT the HERMES does not return to the TT screen until the call is finished (you can manually switch back to TT).
One thing to watch out for is the Black 2.5 ROM which updates your HERMES device code and therefore requires TT re-activating. Because of this I have reverted to Black 2.0 (which I find better on battery consumption incidently).
HTH.
TT6 on Std UK T-Mob WM5 ROM
I found that TT6 runs OK but I had to turn off the plotting (on screen) of all the POIs to get it to run smoothly. Some people seem to have reported issues with the rate of data access from their MicroSD cards so it's worth getting a good card (NB - lots of issues reported with Sandisk cards). I run TT6, my phone and CamerAware (which warns about cameras better than TT6). I have had the odd lock-up but in the main all works very well and I am able to count on TT6 with my Vario II. BTW - I use the Holux GPSlim240 which is very nice.
I have even got Windows Live Search running at the same time with a GPS plotted position and mapping/Sat view running from a 3G connection - all very impressive to mates if of little in-car use whilst driving!
Regards
Guy_Incognito said:
Er, you may very well be the last person with WM5 , I've got WM6 as well
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I just installed wm6 and i try and run the start app that installs tomtom and it doesnt do anything im using xplore 1.1!
Anyone has tried using a bluetooth GPS thingie with the Herald and any apps like Destinator or TomTom?
If yes what was your opinion?
My main questions are on:
What app you used and with which GPS hardware?
Battery consumption
CPU/Mem usage and how well the app run
^_^ tnx a million.
Im interested in this as well. Does anyone use any GPS software for their Wing?
I use TomTom 6 and Route66 with a Holux GPSlim236...
The battery consumption depends on the time I use it... Long usage time means more battery drain.
The CPU/Mem usage I'm not sure, but the apps run ok without visible delay between the real position and the position indicated by the program.
EDIT: Forgot to tell onde thing... In TomTom6, the more POI's you select the bigger is the delay between the real position and the one indicated by the program.
I'm using iGO My Way 2006 with this GPS mouse and I'm very satisfied with it.
Have used the software so far in Germany in Netherlands and it didnt fail me at all.
Speed is great on my XDA terra (and before on my XDA neo) which is important,
because some navigation software are running slow on those 200MHz devices.
It's important because on shorter roads and lots of corners the display scrolls
way to slow while you are actually already in the corner.
The voice commands are usually exact and in time just not the display.
Right now I'm testing Navigon MobileNavigator. The map looks nicer, but it is slower than iGO. Can't tell much about TomTom, Route66 and Destinator.
Haven't got my hands on them yet.
I'm using a Holux M1000 GPS Bluetooth Receiver with Destinator 6 and Destinator 7.
Destinator 7 freezes sometimes, but I think it's related to the "Stand by" configuration. With Destinator 6 it works fine.
Regards,
Rodolpho
Well, I'm not yet on WM6, but TOMTOM6 works great with my herald, with a lot of POI, without any delays, and i use a MTK chipset's bluetooth GPS receiver.
I am told that WM6 is faster than WM5 for softwares such as tomtom, so...
Wing/WM6/TomTom6 here. After the pagepool hack (6MB), and after removing most of the stuff from the startup folder (my5aves in particular), TomTom works just fine, not a problem.
Battery life is satisfactory, much better than Axim x30 for sure. You might have to shut down huuuuuge programs like PocketIE manually, before starting TomTom.
Ask some specific questions, please. I'm too lazy to write a complete review this time
I have a WM6 Wing with a Holux 1000 BT GPS. I can't seem to get Tomtom 6 to work on it. The program just can't find the receiver. iGuidance 4 works fine even though it is a bit sluggish. Can anyone help me? I think I've tried two different types of BT GPS receivers and still no luck.
I am running TT6 on WM6 Herald.
TT6 is not that smooth as on my previous Qtek 9000...although I am overclocking to 247 and running on 8MB PP. Maybe its caused by my 4GB MicroSD card I dont know!
Also I have a few "bugs" on my TT, voice instructions sometimes do not match the visual commands and the daylight/night colors function is reversed.
Have reinstalled TT on a fresh WM6 installation with the same results...
Will see now if there is a difference between version 6.01 and 6.03...
And yes I have paid for my TT6 !
HTC4350 here with Holux GPSlim 236
Working with MapFactor Navigator 6, GPS Utilities and Oziexplorer just fine
Also tried GPS Tuner but it won't start because it needs more free memory, though i haven't yet tried the pagepool change.
Other than that, works perfect
cfds said:
I am running TT6 on WM6 Herald.
TT6 is not that smooth as on my previous Qtek 9000...although I am overclocking to 247 and running on 8MB PP.
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Try 6MB PP. No glitches at all, as long as I exit Internet Explorer first. And of course removing everything but btdwake, CapNotify, poutlook and WiFiInit from Windows/Startup. I think I'll remove poutlook, too and see if that stops ActiveSync from starting all by itself all the time.
Also I have a few "bugs" on my TT, voice instructions sometimes do not match the visual commands and the daylight/night colors function is reversed.
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None of that here, using 6.030 (8320).
I am using TT6 with WM6 without any problems! And it runs fast!
My BT GPS receiver is a cheap Sirf3.
moullas said:
HTC4350 here with Holux GPSlim 236
Working with MapFactor Navigator 6, GPS Utilities and Oziexplorer just fine
Also tried GPS Tuner but it won't start because it needs more free memory, though i haven't yet tried the pagepool change.
Other than that, works perfect
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Using TT6 (6.0.3.0 8320) with a TomTom BT GPS and it works great, never had to configure the GPS, TT always find it. But I can't get OziExplorer working with the TT GPS.
Thanks
Hello all,
I own a tmobile wing..
and am also planning to use gps on it..and plan to buy the holus m1000 as well since many of you already use it.. but when looking up prices on tomtom6.. it's usually around 150.00-250.00
can you guys please tell me of a site where you found it relatively cheap.. ?
What does everyone think is the best Sat Nav software to use with the Trin? I'm a fan of Navigon Mobile Navigator, I've tried a few others but I can't decide which one to keep for sure...
I personally like Tomtom.. as everybody will tell you. I used iGuidance a bit but it kind of lagged and I like Tomtom's interface better. I still want to try Navigon but they don't have a trial on their website so meh.
I've tried Iguidance 2&3 and tomtom 6 on p3600 with the axl wm6 rom.
I only like Iguidance version 2 though as version 3 has significant voice lags. I believe it is the recordings that are messed up and might be able to swap over the audio files from version 2 to version 3 install folders.
TOMTOM 6 works great once it has loaded which takes about 3-4 minutes for me. I need it to load faster to be useable. I think the POI database on tomtom is better though i've not done any comparisons.
think am getting iguidance 4
Hi,
I haved use the TomTom 6 for a while, but Igo 2006 have a best interface. Not to say also that TomTom need the atifix software for not to freeze. You should try Igo 2006 and you will see that you do not need anything else.
Best
Dave
Tomtom all the way for me......really simple to you and works for what I want. (I have only tried TT and CoPilot though)
No1. MioMap ( iGo)
Very close No2. TomTom.
You can not go wrong with these two. Stay well away from Navigon.
I could not coment on any others since I have not tried them.
I have tested Mio 3.2 and TT 6 on my Trinity and both work seamlesly.
You can have both of these installed and they will work happily alongside each other.
safer than safe said:
No1. MioMap ( iGo)
Very close No2. TomTom.
You can not go wrong with these two. Stay well away from Navigon.
I could not coment on any others since I have not tried them.
I have tested Mio 3.2 and TT 6 on my Trinity and both work seamlesly.
You can have both of these installed and they will work happily alongside each other.
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Whats the difference between MioMap and iGO?
just got my iG4 and think its cool! will test it later and see how it does.. my bt gps is cooler though...
i've used google maps, smart 2 go and garmin cue as well as tomtom6 and i much prefer tomtom! shame they don't have New Zealand maps though
i've used google maps, smart2go, garmin cue and tomtom6 - i much prefer the usability of tomtom6 far ahead of the others.
real shame there are no New Zealand maps though
i search maps for tomtom of ireland.
But i not found
Can anyone help me out with the Orange GPS software. I have downloaded it and shows the gps as not active, any suggestions please.
I have called orange but they are hopeless.
cheers
Where are the maps voor iGo 4?
1st thing to check is that you have a GPS enabled ROM. All Orange SPV M700's are supposed to, but it seems a few slipped through the net. Also, if you have 'unlocked' the device, your radio ROM may have been replaced by an old version.
Go to Start/Settings/System/Device Information and look at the entry for Radio ROM. If it ends in **.11 you are OK; if not you will need to update the Radio ROM.
Have you got the Orange Navigation (Webraska) configured to COM9 and 57600 Baud? These are the default settings for the M700.
connorxda said:
TOMTOM 6 works great once it has loaded which takes about 3-4 minutes for me. I need it to load faster to be useable. I think the POI database on tomtom is better though i've not done any comparisons.
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3-4 Minutes? Mine loads in 10 seconds and I've never had it freeze or crash.
How many POI's do you have selected? That apparently can slow it down a bit.
tomtom 6 all the way for me
loads fast....he may mean to find sats..mine takes about 30 seconds to find the sats
nekosan said:
i search maps for tomtom of ireland.
But i not found
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only basic map for ireland...north and south
liamhere said:
only basic map for ireland...north and south
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Ireland is included in the maps of western europe, or if you prefer just the maps of UK and IE. So it is present.
I've used igo 2006 and tomtom 6 for quite a while. While I like Igo much more than tomtom, the traffic system on tomtom is cool and to get traffic on Igo you need TMC Antenna. The only GPS units I found that have those cost the earth, so I am sticking with tomtom. And of course, because tomtom is soooo common, you find lots of people trying to customise it and as a consequence, you get thousands of poi's, many many cool voices... etc.
But to put things in perspective, if I had traffic on Igo, I would switch without a second thought. Hope this helps.