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If I could set Athena in real VGA would it work in VGA out mode in real VGA resolution too?
THX so much!
Here some pictures:
Normal and real VGA
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Here some pictures:
Normal and real VGA
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Great it works...great monitor indeed...))
*lol*
It´s my best *gg*
I got it running on my projector - 7ft Tomtom is GREAT!
OK, I didnt really use my XDA Exec (universal) in realVGA mode because the today page was just too small...
Now I havent tried it on the Ameo (Athena) yet, but it looks better from those pics.
My question, from the larger screen size, would you say the Athena was usable in daylight with realVGA mode on? Its hard to see the screen in daylight and the last thing you want to have to do is squint at tiny fonts.
hello, very good how do you change the resolution?
thank you
You install MvRTrueVGA.
... and SdkCerts
In other words:
1. Google for "MvRTrueVGA"
2. Follow the instructions...
hum thank you , so it was what i imagined, but they have a lot of bugs , lets see if there is one update soon
I wouldn't count on there being an update soon.
And "a lot of bugs" is matter of definition. Personally, I can't live without TrueVGA at all.
So indeed the UK model is available in the Netherlands, just got mine.
My first impressions:
- The device actually feels smaller than I thought, feels only slightly heavier than my Diamond and much lighter than my Pro.
- The screen sensitivity for my finger is great, however it seems that I have to press harder with the stylus than on my Diamond.
- I cannot prevent touchflo 3D from installing, softresetting before customisation brings the device back in setup mode.
- The screen and the size of the buttons are great for finger usage.
- The device is faster than my Diamond and Pro, Touchflo 3D is really improved in terms of speed, however there is a lag when using the file explorer I didn't had on my previous devices.
- I really like the small led in the power button, indicating charching, bluetooth, etc. No more irritating charching lights from the action button when the device is next to my bed.
- All software I installed on my Diamond works on my HD (Spb products, Mobipocket, Pocketbreeze.)
- Did not test the GPS
- There is a soft bag for protection of the HD. The good is that it doesn't make the device much thicker. The bad is that it will not provide much protection (but it is included!!)
- The device comes with a 8GB microSD card (Sandisk.)
- The HD can be used in the HTC cradle, but without the special inlays, so a bit risky for the connector.
- No video-out (not in settings.)
- The full QWERTY on screen keyboard is better than on my Diamond, but still small and not as responsive to touch as I would want (I am used to my Iphone ;-))
Overall I think it is one of the best devices I have had for the last two years (a bit early to tell, but... first impression)
Can you tell us how vga apps work? Do they get stretched to fill the screen or are there black bars on top and bottom. I am talking about apps with no WVGA support.
Thanks!
Great post! I'm really looking forward to finding out how people get along with the HD. It's number one on my list of devices to replace my Touch.
please oh please try to play a divx movie thats perhaps the only thing that will make me sell my diamond i was used to see movies on my x7500 diamond sucks on plaaying video
yeah please try coreplayer/tcpmp with divx/xvid movies tell us the results!!
also if possible try some H264 (mp4 AVC) encoded videos
try resolutions around 640x360!
tboy2000 said:
Can you tell us how vga apps work? Do they get stretched to fill the screen or are there black bars on top and bottom. I am talking about apps with no WVGA support.
Thanks!
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All apps I tried so far just scale to fill the screen.
It looks great!
The apps even look better than on my X7500!
After tweaking some performance settings and after installing 10 apps, this baby is fast!!!
Everything is almost instantanously, never seen this on a HTC device before (and I have had a lot ;-))
if you tell me it plays divx flawlessly ill put my diamond for sale right now hehehe
Any comments about audio quality through the 3.5mm plug. Also does the cradle have audio out (through usb of the device)?
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yeah please try coreplayer/tcpmp with divx/xvid movies tell us the results!!
also if possible try some H264 (mp4 AVC) encoded videos
try resolutions around 640x360!
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Well, tried a video, 656 x 272 pixels, see for your self, will try TomTom 7 now
Domitri said:
if you tell me it plays divx flawlessly ill put my diamond for sale right now hehehe
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Sell your Diamond ;-)))
Trying to upload a video.... not that easy :-((
Update: uploading zip files do not work from my computer, so you would have to believe me on my word....
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Any comments about audio quality through the 3.5mm plug. Also does the cradle have audio out (through usb of the device)?
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The audio quality through the headset is great, its roughly the same as the Diamond, good bass, etc.
No sound through USB though, so no music through the cradle.
Looks great in the cradle though ;-)
OK, good news,
TomTom navigator 7 is working perfectly.
Better, no GPS lag (inside, because it is raining terribly here).
And look at Mobile Shell
This really is HTC's best device in years!!!
How does the sound compare with your iphone?
That cradle is huge, does it come with the package?
You have really kept up with all the PPC since the black and white days! Do you keep all of them or have you sold and upgraded throught he decade?
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How does the sound compare with your iphone?
That cradle is huge, does it come with the package?
You have really kept up with all the PPC since the black and white days! Do you keep all of them or have you sold and upgraded throught he decade?
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To be honest, the sound of both the Diamond and HD is much better than the sound of my Iphone, the sound is....more alive, more bass, etc.
I really like my Iphone and used it together with my Diamond for more than 3 months, and last month I mentioned that I was only using my Iphone. It is so much easier to use and the screen is really great.
But beside the UI, I think the HD beats the Iphone in a lot of aspects.
You have to buy the cradle seperately, it is a bit huge, yes.
I think I am an addict..... I kept some, not all, I am not that rich ;-))
tomtom
I also received my touch hd today! a great device, the big screen is really lovely.
I can't seem to make tomtom 7 working though. Wich cab did you use? I get the error message that it is not compatible with my device.
Thanks
Johnkorver,
It is indeed a good news that there is no lag in GPS
HTC Touch Diamond + HTC X7500 + Iphone 16 GB White + HTC Touch HD
Your collection is awesome
It was to good to be true...
I found a bug; the rollout menu's (don't know how to call it) do not work on non standard programs.
I had this bug also on my Samsung i780 with a 320x320 pixel screen.
You can select the different items using the keyboard though.
Look at the screenshot to see what I mean; I selected the main window menu.
hi johnkorver , what about 3g reception and system speaker related to diamond ? thnx
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I also received my touch hd today! a great device, the big screen is really lovely.
I can't seem to make tomtom 7 working though. Wich cab did you use? I get the error message that it is not compatible with my device.
Thanks
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There is a special version, taken from the Diamond.
Use google and you willl find it ;-))
stesa said:
hi johnkorver , what about 3g reception and system speaker related to diamond ? thnx
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Finding out right now.
tried to put the Diamond battery in the HD.....
I just posted a blog entry about my experience with RealVGA and 320x320 mode on the Treo Pro. Check it out at: http://nebowiki.blogspot.com/2008/11/treo-pro-320x320-love.html
I am curious about the experience of others?
Screenshots? Anyone?
I will try and put some screenshots together tomorrow. I have been running RealVGA at 96dpi for nearly a month now and have *never* switched back to 128dpi since installing it. The only faults I notice are the lack of icons for SMS messages in the threaded view and the compacted battery icon - neither of which bother me significantly. frankly, I think the rom should run at this reolution as stock - and as soon as we can cook up a rom I will strip out of it all the 128dpi stuff!
John
I'm running it for weeks now, really like it. The fonts may be too small for some, but I certainly appreciate it.
A few weeks on RealVGA for me too. Never need to change from 96dpi back to 128dpi. In fact 96dpi full 320x320 allows me to easily run apps that have problem with 240x240 mode.
Real VGA here as well. The Best. I wont go back.
Could anyone post any piccys of their pros running the 96dpi?
Thanks
Some screenshots
Hi folks,
A couple of screenshots of 96dpi on a Treo Pro just to show you what it looks like. If anyone wants a particular view showing, just ask.
John
Thanks John
I guess i have to be a problem child. its not working so well for me. a lot of things are messed up, images, background, phone dialer, etc. not so great on my end.
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I'm running it for weeks now, really like it. The fonts may be too small for some, but I certainly appreciate it.
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Using 96dpi, it's needed to get Olivetree's Biblereader to display icons on the taskbars correctly, along with some of the fonts.
Also needed @ 96dpi for Mobile Shell 2.1 or 2.11 to use the Omnia or Experia themes (found in the square screen themes thread at ppcgeeks.com). They go offscreen otherwise.
Yes, fonts in some places begin to become uncomfortably small. But, in most instances, it's not a problem. However button placement display gets off center with comm manager, especially the data connection on/off setting.
You can of course slide the font size a notch up, that will make most text a bit larger while keeping the 320 resolution. Not perfect, but perhaps for some a better compromise?
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I will try and put some screenshots together tomorrow. I have been running RealVGA at 96dpi for nearly a month now and have *never* switched back to 128dpi since installing it. The only faults I notice are the lack of icons for SMS messages in the threaded view and the compacted battery icon - neither of which bother me significantly. frankly, I think the rom should run at this reolution as stock - and as soon as we can cook up a rom I will strip out of it all the 128dpi stuff!
John
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I've been running the RealVGa at 96dpi for a week. I've noticed that the icon for the threaded sms is missing. I can only see a "x" at the icon location. Is anyone able to share some view how i can change the icon back to normal?
Also another thing that i notice for is the view of the dialer is a bit shorter than the screen. Therefore, you can see a line of the background when you on the dialer.
Another weird things that i notice when running RealVga is that, when u dialed an unknown number, after the call, a notice will pop up and ask you whether you want to save the no. You will NOT be able to save the no. from there. Have tried that many times and gave up
Have hard reset and use back the original config. Evertthing went back normal. But just TOO BIG. I just wish that the original config will come with an option for us to choose between 128 and 96 dpi. .... 96 dpi still the best view for my treo pro
I use RealVGA with lot of pleasure on my Treo Pro, here
For now, i would like only replace the icon in the threaded sms, like i did for the battery icon. Maybe in the windows folder ...
Misutsu said:
I use RealVGA with lot of pleasure on my Treo Pro, here
For now, i would like only replace the icon in the threaded sms, like i did for the battery icon. Maybe in the windows folder ...
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Can you change the start up screen showing the distorted and extremely big window mobile 6??? I notice that it's good with the original setting but was enlarged when using realvga. Any suggetiong how to change that?
I guess not but i'm not a specialist. All my tips came from xda
keyboard missing with 96 dpi
for some mysterious reason the on screen keyboard disapears and i can't see it with real vga and 96 dpi on my treo pro. the rest work great.
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for some mysterious reason the on screen keyboard disapears and i can't see it with real vga and 96 dpi on my treo pro. the rest work great.
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Works fine on my Pro, except it's very small & my eyes aren't that young, anymore. Because of that, I installed CMKeyboard & a couple of htctoucher's skins from right here on xda.
If you're having issues with RealVGA, are you using the latest version by Ebag333? It can be found here: http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=170002 on TreoCentral. If you're using an earlier version, change to 128dpi before doing anything else, so that you're at "normal" resolution. The newer version uses Mortscript & it's suggested to install after a hard reset.
HTH
Bill
kraski said:
Works fine on my Pro, except it's very small & my eyes aren't that young, anymore. Because of that, I installed CMKeyboard & a couple of htctoucher's skins from right here on xda.
If you're having issues with RealVGA, are you using the latest version by Ebag333? It can be found here: http://discussion.treocentral.com/showthread.php?t=170002 on TreoCentral. If you're using an earlier version, change to 128dpi before doing anything else, so that you're at "normal" resolution. The newer version uses Mortscript & it's suggested to install after a hard reset.
HTH
Bill
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Yes it's a good solution. I personaly install RESCO KEYBOARD PRO that has a Big Button skin and work really great.
I only miss SPB mobile shell.
Thanks
Emyas said:
Yes it's a good solution. I personaly install RESCO KEYBOARD PRO that has a Big Button skin and work really great.
I only miss SPB mobile shell.
Thanks
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I'll have to look at Resco Keyboard. I like other products by them (file manager & registry tool).
AFAIK, some of the versions between 2.1 & 2.14 are OK with 96dpi.
As above.
http://www.mediafire.com/download.php?myj5ykiyit0
Have fun.
already using this in your beta 7 diamond rom. works great! thanks alot!
I am not able to install the cab on my xperia. it tells me that i am using the wrong rom version?
does this support flash plugin?
Is there a QVGA version of this build?
what are the files i need to ugrade my current cooked version. I've upgraded before with two files but i forgot which can someone let me know which files. to put in the opera folder.
OperaL.exe and Opera9.exe
I would also like to have these 2 files only. VGA version please
This version is not that good. It needs very much time to start and the zoom slider is not there.
What do you mean, zoom slider is not there?
Does it have the invisible zoom slider on the right, or the zoom slider that is activated by the button on the left bottom?
Works perfectly on my stock sprint rom on touch diamond, thanks a lot
Can't install on my kaiser, says something like wrong ROM (even though it is qvga, i just wanted to get the exes).
Curious what kind of zoom slider it has?
Does flash work?
Anyone in for making a qvga cab or the seperate exes?
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This version is not that good. It needs very much time to start and the zoom slider is not there.
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100% FALSE
Where is this build extracted from?
Been using it for a while now.
Looks really nice, boots up instantly, pages render perfectly and quickly, text looks great, zooming and panning are flawless.
Amazing build. =]
It starts up very fast after I did a soft reset - starting it immediately after installation yielded a slow startup. However, there isn't a zoom button at the bottom left of the screen, and I don't think there's the "sceret slider" either, like the Omnia.
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It starts up very fast after I did a soft reset - starting it immediately after installation yielded a slow startup. However, there isn't a zoom button at the bottom left of the screen, and I don't think there's the "sceret slider" either, like the Omnia.
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No zoom button? That's a nightmare.
as i said i'm using a cooked version of opera build 15316, but i do have the zoom in the bottom left. i did notice one thing though, it does not appear on local pages like help and about opera, but is there at www.htc.com. i'm looking at it right now, its there!
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as i said i'm using a cooked version of opera build 15316, but i do have the zoom in the bottom left. i did notice one thing though, it does not appear on local pages like help and about opera, but is there at www.htc.com. i'm looking at it right now, its there!
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I installed it over build 15202, so that might have screwed things up. I actually prefer the "ring" zoom though, so no loss.
anybody got a mirror? thx
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Where is the zoom slider then? I can't seem to find it anywhere on here.
i need an a WM phone with an hardware keyboard;
i've tried a touchpro2 for a couple of days: a so-so experience. now i need your opinions (or info) about some critical points of the X2 (i've just read almost the whole forum, so i know the software issues)
gps
the tocuhpro2 has a small gps lag, even after some patches
keyboard
the touchpro2 has a great keyboard, maybe the best 'ive ever tried
the optical pad
the touchpro2 lacks any hardware scrolling (the zoom bar sucks)
free ram
with a custom rom (senseless – i hate sense/manila) the tp2 has 120mb free RAM
i remember tha X1 suffers too low volume problem. what about X2?
thank you very much and sorry for my english
gps I don't use
keyboard on X2 is great
optical pad is very OK
rings volume is OK if you set it to max
there's less RAM than on X1 but actually no problem with that
X2, it's on HW side a way better phone than any HTC one.
But the power of htc it's not on the toy HW, but on the large customer base.
On the x2 side, instead, seem that the main job of the majority of users is complaining about the phone and blaming sonyericsson.
And scaring the potential new users, will keep them away.
So, few users= less probability that someone (or SE itself) discover a fix, or produce a good mod/utility/sw.
That said X2 (as tp2) is a bit underpowered to run wm 6.5 but is still usable using few attention and few tweaks.
The GPS is absolutely great (few seconds to get the fix in indoor)
The keyboard is almost perfect
The display is really really nice
And the optical pad is useful in most situations, although wm 6.5.3 is more finger friendly than previous versions.
The build construction is great and is light years from the one seen on X1.
The audio power requires a longer discussion, unlike the X1, is powerful on the multimedia side (you can easly hear the gps direction even in a noisy car), but the ringtones and notification are low.
I just discovered that is one of SE cab that lowers the ringtone's volume, so I'm just investigating in a way to get the sound back, w/o loosing some of SE features.
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X2, it's on HW side a way better phone than any HTC one.
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what do you mean? the specs seem to me almost the same.
That said X2 (as tp2) is a bit underpowerd to run wm 6.5 but is still usable using few attention and few tweaks.
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yeah i know. but generallly i use a naked WM; then i install my "businness" plugins (pocketbreeze, rcm and a launcher) on the today. with this configuration (and with a little boost from the overclock) the tp2 almost flies.
i've read (in the change language thread) that it's possibile a barebone X2 (no panels and no SE customization). is this true? and how does it work?
at last: is the SDfix necessary even after the last fw upgrade?
thanks
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what do you mean? the specs seem to me almost the same.
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I mean globally...
Better camera, better build construction, sexy design, optical dpad, and so on.
yeah i know. but generallly i use a naked WM; then i install my "businness" plugins (pocketbreeze, rcm and a launcher) on the today. with this configuration (and with a little boost from the overclock) the tp2 almost flies.
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With the almost vanilla WM you can obtain blocking most of the oem cab installation, the phone is fast enough and pleasant to use, i never used RCM, but the stock contact management in the x2 is nice, other than the bit odd dialer (no quicksearch on the default tab).
at last: is the SDfix necessary even after the last fw upgrade?
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I'm not sure: i got a (minor) fs corruption, with the original SW (which was the worst WM implementation ever seen) after 5 minutes of usage, then I upgraded to MR2 and edited the registry, now the problem is gone, but I can't say if the "culprit" is MR2 or the registry fix.
I'm actually using the X2, without panel manager, slideview and other SE's ****s, and the phone works fine with about 110-120 mb of free ram.
Keyboard is great, trackpad is great, GPS works fine, camera is not what it was supossed to be, but it's still is better than TP's one. SD cad fix is still necessary, i've lossed data even with the last firmware, but with the fix works fine.
The phone speed is not great, but is enough, and if you want you can overclock it, but it's not necessary.
So if you don't like manilla, and you don't mind the software issues that are still present, i'll go for the X2.
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I'm actually using the X2, without panel manager, slideview and other SE's ****s
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I don't think that SE softwares are ****s, they are simply too heavy for the X2 processor and memory. pixecity and growing panel ares simply useless, but the panel switching and slideview are nice, too heavy, a bit buggy but nice.
camera is not what it was supossed to be, but it's still is better than TP's one
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Your English is better than mine, and your description of the camera is perfect.
I confirm almost everything above.
Actually I use TileView Panel and it's very well working.
As well as SlideView.
As for camera, X2 takes great pictures.
Actually is one of the best in class IMO.
Video is edgy on start but it's indeed ok, especially with bigger resolution you can watch this full screen on laptops.
It doesn't match some HD cameras on Symbian or Android but it's ok.
The main concern is stability, but it mainly means X2 needs reboot every 3, 4 days.
Even with this, I still hardly imagine any substitute for X2.
And SE graphic elements suit me.
P.S. SdCardFix is a must.
ouch, i've just read that X2 seems to have problem running iGo8. can you confirm?
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ouch, i've just read that X2 seems to have problem running iGo8. can you confirm?
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I'm running igo8 (double installation Navtec/ Teleatlas) and it's working fine but not out of the box, you need the correct data.zip.
Navigon (final) is also working fine.
well, just got mine...
damn sexy but a little small.
WM6.5.3 with R3AA035; so the latest one.
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damn sexy but a little small.
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It's matter of personal preferences, but I find the size of X2... ...well, the right size.
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It's matter of personal preferences, but I find the size of X2... ...well, the right size.
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Yes, i know. But i'm coming from tp2...
In the meanwhile i've removed almost all the programs listed as installed, i've applied sdfix and installed some of my favourite sw, except igo8 and operamini.
The X2 runs smooth, as smooth as tp2 with no manila/sense. In the near future i will try the stop-customization trick and the overclock.
The keyboard is good: better than X1's one but ages from tp2's.
The pad seems to me as a killer feature; finally a device "touch-non-touch".
Hope aebuttons (another favourite of mine) will let me set all the other buttons.
thanks
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Yes, i know. But i'm coming from tp2...
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I have a milestone also, a wider screen is helpful sometimes, but a larger phone is also a disadvantage...
The pad seems to me as a killer feature; finally a device "touch-non-touch".
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The hard input devices are indeed not common in the age of iphone dumbness.
Seem that no one cares anymore on how a jog dial (like the one present on the P series) or a joystick (like te one present on the k800 or the imate 8502) can be handy.
Btw the optical trackpad is definitely better than nothing.
Hope aebuttons (another favourite of mine) will let me set all the other buttons.
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Yes I'm using it, it works perfectly on the clean phone, it works mostly when used with the stock SE SW.
I mapped the slideview button as start menu button with short press, and as task manager with long press.
I also mapped the volume buttons as a fake jog dial, so I can read ebooks happily as on my beloved p800.
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Yes I'm using it, it works perfectly on the clean phone, it works mostly when used with the stock SE SW.
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what do you mean with "clean"?
and: there is a way to wake up the phone with any buttons?
thanks
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what does you mean with "clean"?
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w/o the oem cabs (panel manager/slidewiew and so on)
and: there is a way to wake up the phone with any buttons?
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Not tried yet, I don't think that aebutton can do that but some pones like the i780 had this option via a little oem control, maybe the X1, also but I'm not sure.
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I just discovered that is one of SE cab that lowers the ringtone's volume, so I'm just investigating in a way to get the sound back, w/o loosing some of SE features.
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try to modify "HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring\InitVol" from "3" to "4" or"5".
it can make the ring vol larger on my X2.
just try it!
jack-xda said:
try to modify "HKCU\ControlPanel\SoundCategories\Ring\InitVol" from "3" to "4" or"5".
it can make the ring vol larger on my X2.
just try it!
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Thanks, indeed I just checked my X2 and the default w/o most of the SE cabs installed is 5.
I'm still havent found what is the cab that changes this value.
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Yes I'm using it, it works perfectly on the clean phone, it works mostly when used with the stock SE SW.
I mapped the slideview button as start menu button with short press, and as task manager with long press.
I also mapped the volume buttons as a fake jog dial, so I can read ebooks happily as on my beloved p800.
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I've done a clean install (softreset just after screen calibration), but now on every boot the system ask to me to resume the installation. i can say "no" but it's a little annoyance.