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My TyTN just died - can anyone please help?

I got my TyTN a week ago (actually it is a Softbank X01HT)
The device just died today. I cannot turn it on (battery was fully charged), no lights are on, I tried removing the battery, SIM card, soft/hard reset nothing helps, it seems like it is dead and nothing is turning on even when connected to the power.
Can anyone please advise? is there anything I can do to revive it??
thanks

Does it show a constant RED LED light when you plug in the charger?
Mike

Can you describe the incident that lead to the "bricking" of your tytn?
The more we know the better we can make suggestion/give help.
sagig said:
I got my TyTN a week ago (actually it is a Softbank X01HT)
The device just died today. I cannot turn it on (battery was fully charged), no lights are on, I tried removing the battery, SIM card, soft/hard reset nothing helps, it seems like it is dead and nothing is turning on even when connected to the power.
Can anyone please advise? is there anything I can do to revive it??
thanks
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No light is on when connected, it is just all blank. I didn't do anything actually. Finished a phone call, put the device back in my pocket when I took it out again it was dead and coldn't do anything. No ROM change or software installation or anything. I was wondering if there is any way to "revive" it.
Thank you for the help in advance !

sagig said:
No light is on when connected, it is just all blank. I didn't do anything actually. Finished a phone call, put the device back in my pocket when I took it out again it was dead and coldn't do anything. No ROM change or software installation or anything. I was wondering if there is any way to "revive" it.
Thank you for the help in advance !
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Don't think I've heard of one being completely dead before. There are cases where the battery drains very rapidly to zero charge in a veryshort time and will then refuse to charge. BUT in those cases the device at least shows a RED no charge LED when you plug in the charger.
I don't think I can suggest anything other than warranty / repair. I assume you can rule out that the charger is faulty. This could be shown by plugging into PC using USB lead and confirming that again no RED LED shows.
One final thought but I think it is a long shot and that is to leave the battery out for 10 minutes and then retry.
It may be possible that an internal connector has come adrift but unless you wish to open it up then again we're back to warranty / repair.
Mike

Bad news for me. I was afraid I will have to do that...
Thanks for the reply though.
If anyone else has ny suggestion I'll be happy to hear it

Athena dead or dying........any miracle workers out there?

Background:
I have had MANY PPC's (so many I can't even count them) and I've loaded many different cooked ROMS and such on most of them so I'm not a complete noob on these things (don't claim to be an expert either).
However, my most recent acquisition is an HTC Advantage bought at CompUSA. I've read most of these came with a test ROM and mine was no different except for the fact that when I attempted to update the ROM to the "official" one provided to me by HTC it would not work. I always got the error "Connection lost" about half way through the process. I tried it numerous times and it never worked. On some occasions it would get stuck on the bootloader screen but I was able to get it back to working status (still on the test ROM).
I decided to try installing step 1 of Ollipro's SPL to see if that would help loading the HTC ROM. Turns out that wouldn't work either. It would get stuck at step 1 where it would ask if "PPC gone idle and didn't work or to wait 30 seconds". Tried it many times and would try to get it to keep going but the grey box on the bottom left would say the "parameters were incorrect" and would give me the option to quit, which I would. No problem, at least my 7501 was still working.
After that I tried the official HTC ROM again and I got the same "connection lost" error I had previously, except this time I didn't get anything on my PPC screen, just a black screen, not even the battery charging light behind the joystick lights up anymore. Soft reset...........nothing. Bootloader reset....................nothing. Hard reset.......................nothing. No lights, nada. The only flicker I get is if I try a reset wheen the power cord is connected. A red light flickers behind the joystick whenever I click the reset button. Any ideas or any help?

Sounds to me like the battery is just dead. I bought one at CompUSA (had the test ROM also) and I got the red ring around the joystick too when I tried to turn it on in the store. I left it plugged in awhile and it finally booted up okay. I then replaced the test ROM with the one and only available for the X7501 on HTC USA's web site. Good luck and I hope you get it working!

I think it could be battery related as well but it had a full charge when this happened. For some reason the unit has lost communication with the battery. I'm at a loss.

I got the same problem like you man !!! but i bad luck and so stupid man , i did with HTC X7501 then it dead after that i bought the X7500 then did it again , holy "... " it dead again....man ...So how your phone now bro ????

I left out the battery a half day and tried it again but still dead. Then I left it charging overnight and tried it again but still dead.
I can't believe this. I've never had a bricked device that can't be revived but after so many have seen this post and still no solutions I'm guessing it's no hope.

I met the same situation when I started to unlock Athena ( TMobile Ameo) within not fully charged battery ( less then 70%).
Solution ( try to make BL mode) with connected wallsocket charger ( not connected to PC USB slot) or find 100% charged battery. It helped me two times.
After many tries it changed to BL mode .
Now I didn't start unlock/change ROM without 100% charged battery.

I have the same BIG Problem, only red fliker when soft reset when AC conected. I wanted to update rom from russian to english and phone stoped working (black screen), and battery heats when inserted in phone . nothing to do? i read everything but i have not got any solution. I think it may be bios dead. helap us please

Lobstrick said:
I have the same BIG Problem, only red fliker when soft reset when AC conected. I wanted to update rom from russian to english and phone stoped working (black screen), and battery heats when inserted in phone . nothing to do? i read everything but i have not got any solution. I think it may be bios dead. helap us please
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"heating battery" (i.e. discharging when inserted, you mean?), no charge led = dead bootloader indeed.

I get the same problem. My device is work, but not charge. Also like yours i have red ring around the joystick when the battery is taked out. And if battery inside, when i make a softreset it blink one time, continued to load but not charge.
You`r speaking all wonderful. But have anybody found the solution?

Hearing these stories makes me nervous. I'm on the stock ROM (mine came from CompUSA with the latest ROM and I don't have an urge to try the cooked ROM yet). I've been using my Athena daily for 4 months, it charges correctly from several different chargers I have (car, computer USB, stock wall charger, aftermarket wall charger).
However, one day 2 weeks ago I went to make a call in the middle of the day and my Athena was dead. D-e-a-d. Usually I can make it back home at night and still have 90-100% on the battery meter, so with no use in the middle of the day and a dead battery, this was weird. It wouldn't turn on, no soft boot, took the battery out and put it back in, and always got nothing.
I bring this up here because when I plugged it in, I encountered similar problems that others here are describing. It wouldn't turn on, and it didn't give me the orange charging light behind the joystick. I ended up leaving it plugged in for a while and finally I got a red ring, not the usual orange. I've only seen red when the battery was almost dead and the unit was on. Then after some more time the ring turned orange and at this point it would turn on again. I still have no idea why my battery died so fast and hard.
So, is there a problem with the battery charging system that is starting to crop up in units that have been used a while???

miha_conan said:
I get the same problem. My device is work, but not charge. Also like yours i have red ring around the joystick when the battery is taked out. And if battery inside, when i make a softreset it blink one time, continued to load but not charge.
You`r speaking all wonderful. But have anybody found the solution?
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Hi i am no expert but i had simaler problem no display or no lights round ring no responce to any commands (ie hard reset and bootloader ) only red light flickred on reset button all i did was removed battery while pressing reset button and placed new battery and left it on wall charger for couple of hours and before doing hard reset i pressed reset button 2 to 3 times and green light round the battery came up so i tryed bootloader and it worked and insted of flashing it with pc i just loaded the img in sd card and flashed it while whole thing was on charge (i had tmob test rom before ) which i think is best way to do no hassle of losing connection or failing in half way and it works like a charm
hope this helps
and ya if you have a spare battery it dose help

New battery?
I'm a wizard user (and lots of former PDAs) looking to buy and Athena, maybe.
Has anyone tried a new, right out of the envelope, battery? these issues sound like worn out Li-Ion batteries to me. I've had them completely conk (won't take a charge at all) if I let them go completely down, and I've had them wear out and stop taking a full charge (down to maxing out at about %20, but sometimes showing %100 depending on ROM status) when I kept charging them while they're already charged.
Li-Ion batts don't sit for long periods too well, either, so if they're sitting on the shelf at the store/warehouse, they may be suffering even more than one that has been used since earlier in its childhood.
Perhaps the answer is a switched charger that stops charging when the battery (not the ROM/unit reading) gets to %100. ???
I didn't see anything like this posted. I'm terribly curious to see if anyone can resolve it.

nother AMEO dead
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1859021#post1859021

Red ring comes for a sec only try to RESET the device with Charger connected
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same here,
i am afraid i got a dead athena too, did you guys found any solution?? i tried switching batteries. this is my first experience with a windows mobile device not powering on, in inrepairable condition.
found another member with similar problems- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1639311&postcount=24

No genius,s on here,just insults
i have read every page on the advantage x7500,being such an old phone you would thin the genius,s on here could sort it out in seconds,but all they do is insult you.i tried to update from windows 6 on radio 1.20 to michys radio 6.5
it got to 94 percent then crashed, now when i boot up i just get a black and white screen,which then turns white,if it try to reinstall advantage 6.0 the phone reets after 2 or 3 percent..will anyboby help by giving simple term advice to unbrick it? NO.will they provide links to there advice no.THEY JUST INSULT YOU AND SAY ITS IN ONE OF THE THREADS.well im a computer tech and if anybody wants there pc or laptop fixing.guess what i will return the favour with computer speak,THAT YOU CANT UNDERSTAND

Amber charge light always on! Arrhh!

Hi everyone,
I have an unusual problem and I have searched almost the whole internet but I have not found an answer, so now I turn to you for any ideas. My problem is that over the past month, my amber/orange charge light remains constantly on, even when the phone is not charging. I have tried to soft reset, I have looked into HKLM->Drivers->BuiltIn->Battery key and have found no solution. The phone will still charge the battery OK. The other bluetooth light works OK, it still blinks when bluetooth is on. The right led remains orange. I have also tried to take out the battery and re-insert, but issue persists. I am using Faria's 3.3 and IPL/SPL is 2.26, radio is 2.61.11 for over 6 months on a WIZA100, but the issue has occurred a little over a month. Phone has always been well taken care of, no major drops and absolutely no water has ever touched it. Battery drain is normal, I get about 1 day and a half of normal usage, push email. I thought it was batterystatus, and I have removed it, but problem persists. When I soft reset, as soon as the IPL/SPL screen comes on, better yet, as soon as the HTC logo screen before the IPL/SPL screen comes on, the battery light remains constant orange. Any ideas? Please help!!
Sincerely,
Ricardo Cheing

Ricardo Cheing said:
Hi everyone,
I have an unusual problem and I have searched almost the whole internet but I have not found an answer, so now I turn to you for any ideas. My problem is that over the past month, my amber/orange charge light remains constantly on, even when the phone is not charging. I have tried to soft reset, I have looked into HKLM->Drivers->BuiltIn->Battery key and have found no solution. The phone will still charge the battery OK. The other bluetooth light works OK, it still blinks when bluetooth is on. The right led remains orange. I have also tried to take out the battery and re-insert, but issue persists. I am using Faria's 3.3 and IPL/SPL is 2.26, radio is 2.61.11 for over 6 months on a WIZA100, but the issue has occurred a little over a month. Phone has always been well taken care of, no major drops and absolutely no water has ever touched it. Battery drain is normal, I get about 1 day and a half of normal usage, push email. I thought it was batterystatus, and I have removed it, but problem persists. When I soft reset, as soon as the IPL/SPL screen comes on, better yet, as soon as the HTC logo screen before the IPL/SPL screen comes on, the battery light remains constant orange. Any ideas? Please help!!
Sincerely,
Ricardo Cheing
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It doesn't sound like you've tried hard resetting your device yet. Hard resetting the device will not revert back to manufacturers rom but will bring you back to the part where you configure the phone, before customization.
I imagine this is the only way you are going to get the orange light to go away, at least when its not charging... You can hard reset by holding the comm manager and voice button and pressing the reset button with the stylus.
BACK UP EVERYTHING BEFORE HARD RESETTING!!!! If you do not, you will lose everything on the device IE: music, videos, pictures, documents etc...

Try to use another Radio ROM version. The charging related issues are related to the Radio ROM.

Thanks guys, I will change the radio rom on my phone before hard resetting. I didn't want to try to hard reset because of the way I already have my phone configured. I have heard there is a way to create a cab with all customizations, but I'll have to figure out how to do this. I will report more later, because I'm at work right now and I don't have the usb cable.

Ricardo Cheing said:
Thanks guys, I will change the radio rom on my phone before hard resetting. I didn't want to try to hard reset because of the way I already have my phone configured. I have heard there is a way to create a cab with all customizations, but I'll have to figure out how to do this. I will report more later, because I'm at work right now and I don't have the usb cable.
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Hi, my phone last night (O2 XDA Mini S (Wizard)) started the exact same symptoms as you. At half 4 last night the screen came on and the phone claimed to be charging, while unplugged. I soft reset, but no change. by the morning the phone now claims to be fully charged. I've taken the battery out for a while, soft reset but nothing has worked so far, it now claims to be 100% charged constatnly, so i'm currently running the battery down to see what happens.
did you ever find a solution to this?

Hello, just wanted to update the thread, after 1-2 months of the battery charging light always on, no matter what, it fixed all by itself as I was preparing to hard reset my phone, no BS, I swear. I took the phone in my hand and was debating if I should hard reset or just flash another radio rom, and bam, I saw the light go back to normal, blinking green. That day it went back to always on, but then it would fix itself, but finally it's back to normal. So I went ahead and flashed the official T-MO 2.26/ 2.26.11 ROM which downgraded my Radio from 2.61 back to 2.26.11 and replaced my OS and then I flashed the official T-MO 3.08/ 2.69.11 ROM which upgraded my IPL/SPL and Radio. I then flashed Dr. Dot's BlackDiamond 2.0 WM6 and applied the 2.69.11 radio fix on XDA Mobile 6 Release 3. My phone has been wonderful since, thanks everyone.

hi leewebster try this and let me know if it works for you
thanks Ricardo Cheing ,
your input helped as this problem started when i had charged my phone with wife's dopod m700 charger
any way after playing around for some time i figured a workaround for it
i did the regitry hack for disabling the charging via the usb,
powered off the device by pressing the power button then took out the battery and put it back and then powered the device and the problem was sorted also the phone now will not charge when connected to the comp
now if i enable the charging via the usb then the problem returns
hope this is of help to somebody
ps: registry for disabling charging via usb
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE/DRIVERS/BUILTIN/usbfndrv
enablineUsbcharging change the value to "0" (for disabling)
and
"1" (for re enabling)

Thanks for this tip, I have added a reference to this thread in the Wizard Wiki

just to update
today i re enabled the charging via the usb by making the registry hack , powered down the phone took out the battery and then restarted the device and was pleasently surprised to see that the device no longer had the solid amber light
device is working absolutely fine

Sweet hack
Hi, The post about disabling USB charging does indeed cure the charge light on all the time. Now the battery status works correctly. Only drawback was I use a cradle to charge with a USB plugged into a wall adapter. It won't work because of the USB being disabled and I mistakenly assumed since it was plugged into the wall it would although USB is USB whether powered from wall or computer. The factory AC adapter charges it fine though and the annoying light on all the time is gone. SWEET!! I will also re-enable it just to see if it remains gone like you did after a few days, and hopefully it will. If it doesn't I can live with it the way it is now
Thanks for the post!

Amber Charge Light Always ON!
wizard1 said:
Hi, The post about disabling USB charging does indeed cure the charge light on all the time. Now the battery status works correctly. Only drawback was I use a cradle to charge with a USB plugged into a wall adapter. It won't work because of the USB being disabled and I mistakenly assumed since it was plugged into the wall it would although USB is USB whether powered from wall or computer. The factory AC adapter charges it fine though and the annoying light on all the time is gone. SWEET!! I will also re-enable it just to see if it remains gone like you did after a few days, and hopefully it will. If it doesn't I can live with it the way it is now
Thanks for the post!
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Dear All,
Please help me if possible. I have been facing this same issue, however, when I go to battery icon and click on it, the next screen shows that the battery bar is running as it runs during charging, though the device is not connected neither with USB and/or wall charger, amber light is also stays on. I did hard reset, i did soft reset, I took the battery out and put it back in, all my efforts are in vain, no success sofar. I must tell everyone here that this is my third battery and the last two faced the same problem and then died and now they are useless, using those two batteries, i can't turn the device on, i cannot charge the device, they are garbage now, please help if possible!

Is There any solution to this....
hi I have been facing the same problem in my HTC touch Viva (India))...... but the problem is random .......... all of a sudden the light comes on and the phone claims to be charging without any source of charging ............... however in my case soft reset makes the light revert back to normal......but the problem re occurs after a few hours ....... I have tried every solution given on the internet (Hard Reset , registry hack etc) ....... but no avail.........Has anyone found a solution to this
My phone Specifications
WM 6.1
ROM 1.35.720.2 WWE
RADIO 03.37.90

Phone will not turn on... HTC TyTN

I have the HTC Tytn and it will not turn on. It was sitting on my desk one day with more than 50% charge and when I picked it up to make a phone call I noticed it was turned off. I tryed hitting the power button to turn it back on, but nothing happened. I have removed the battery and tried just about everything I could think of. Even when I plug the unit into the wall charger there are no indicator lights. I read on some threads that my battery may not have enough charge to begin charging (I know that makes little sense, but it is true) so I took the battery out and tested the voltage. It rated at 4.17 Volts which is higher then the 3.7 rating on the battery. This means the "jumpstart" or extra "kick" that would normally be suggested would not work for me since I have too much charge. I have begun discharging my battery and it is down to 3.99 Volts, but I don't really know if this would help anything.
If anyone has had a similar problem and has a solution I would really like to try it, I am willing to try anything at this point. I know I am new to this forum and this is my first post, but I discovered this site through Google and found it to be full of many interesting posts. If any of these solutions work I would be happy to make a donation to this site. I appreciate any and all help.
-TOM

Hi Flashrapid,
Have you tried a soft or hard reset? If the phone comes back on with either of these solutions then let me know as there is more to be done to stop this happening again in the future.
Feel free to PM me directly if it helps.
WB

Same problem here. I know this is an old thread, but Im having the same exact issue. Completly stock factory ROM very few 3rd party add ons never dropped.Phone was actually a 3 month old refurb that I had replaced another 8525 with under warantee. No charging lights or anything. Tried soft reset,not sure how to hard reset with the phone dead. Anyway if someone has any insight to this issue it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance.

Hard reset as you normally would - 2 softkeys and stylus reset.
Does the red LED come on when you connect to the power without the battery?
The Hermes should, if there is no hardware problems, show a red light to indicate no battery when you plug it in without one.
Cheers...

Bricked wizard

Hello all!
So I have a qtek 9100 and tried to flash with "ruu_prodigy_226102_22610105_022511_tmous_wwe_ship.exe", the installer started, the wizard was showing me the white screen and progress bar, sudently I get an eror message from pc, and guided to repair the erors. Meanwhile my phone gone off, and now it does not want to open, i tried hard reset, but seems nothing is bringing it back to life. I measured the battery and my voltmeter shows 3.8V, so i guess the battery is ok. I tried removing the battery and putting it back on but it doesn't turn on.If plug it in the wall charger, it doesn't lite up the charging led.
I'm kind of swetting...what can I do now?

try to take the battery off and wait in 10 minutes before you place it in.. try to on it after that.. that might help.. have heard it has helped many here in this forum.. either your bricked it or not.. 10 minutes will or might show..

Thanks for the quick answer, i'm waiting now to see if it works.
Any other tips are welcome.
no...no result...it still doesn't go on

Is there no way to Jtag one of these phones?

Sorry...what "Jtag" means?

Is there any chance that when i tried to flash my ROM to burn my battery?