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ROM 4.0.0.21 Thoughts

I'm thinking about installing this new one. Has anyone done it? Have any thoughts yet? I'm kind of disappointed they removed AIM from there. Nice to have that in ROM. Saves some storage memory.
Anyway, if anyone has any reports on stability, etc, let's hear it.
Also, does this one come with another radio stack?

seems ok
seems ok for now. no radio in the distribution we got (only nbf ).
from my poin of view it's wiser without aim because i can stick up more content suited to my needs.
no stability problems (though only 8 hours )
Decebal

FYI
The hard reset after bootloader mode has been fixed if you want to count that, its a big plus in my book. 8)

It doesn't appear to be fixed, at least for me. Hard reset after bootlader is still exist.

I thought about upgrading to the new one, but everything's working just fine under 4.0.0.16, so maybe I'll stick with whats working for now.
Then I won't have to reinstall all my apps.

GregP74 said:
I thought about upgrading to the new one, but everything's working just fine under 4.0.0.16, so maybe I'll stick with whats working for now.
Then I won't have to reinstall all my apps.
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Why not just do a full backup, upgrade, and then just do a restore

Restoring from a backup after a ROM upgrade is not a good idea, because the older files will override the newer ones in-turn causing you all kinds of trouble.
HTH

ID64 said:
It doesn't appear to be fixed, at least for me. Hard reset after bootlader is still exist.
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Sorry to hear that mine is still holding strong with no hard setting, call me lucky I guess!
BTW anybody else not getting the hard reset after going onto the bootloader?

Hi All, i cooked up a .16 ROM in Jeff's Kitchen (thanks Jeff you are a legend).
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
I've also noticed that my problem with contacts not opening and having to sort reset the phone to resolve the problem is still evident. This has been with 4.00.01, .05 & now .16
Anyone got the above problems with .21????? I'm going to wait to upgrade, from what i can see the changes in the .?? releases are vendor apps etc.
Cheers
Steve
PS - i was brave and cooked up an exe install, it worked just fine.

ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
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I've had the .16 rom do that too me before also. Wonder if that's fixed in the new 4.0.0.21? Hmmm

Where can I gett xx.21. As far as I can see not through the ROM Kitchen

GregP74 said:
ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
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I've had the .16 rom do that too me before also. Wonder if that's fixed in the new 4.0.0.21? Hmmm
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I tested 4.0.0.21 ROM; it has more problems than improvement!

cgigate said:
I tested 4.0.0.21 ROM; it has more problems than improvement!
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can you tell me what do you mean by "more" ... i've cooked up a 4.0.0.21 with some apps for myself and had no problems yet ?
Decebal

The problems I've been noticing since this upgrade are slowness, the occasional freezing, and loss of signal (more so than before). I might try re-installing to see if this helps at all.

ozsmac said:
Only 1 new problem with my device, it's the backlight....seems to turn off after the timeout even when i'm using my device.....strange. Never had this problem before.
I've also noticed that my problem with contacts not opening and having to sort reset the phone to resolve the problem is still evident. This has been with 4.00.01, .05 & now .16
Anyone got the above problems with .21?????
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After having no problems since Friday, I noticed the same issues happening to me last night...
The backlight turning off on me while I'm using it...a soft-reset solves it.
Other apps freezing resulting in me to do a soft reset.
I never had these problems w/.16, so I'm considering switching back; however, seeing Ronin's post:
I spent about 3 hours with a Microsoft Windows Mobile developer( from Microsoft) and he explained that our suspicions on Themes and hardware and SD resets are correct.
The versions of our T-Mobile and X2 WM 2003 were provided to T-Mobile in the early part of February. The OEMs worked on their versions to incorporate their unique "features" and there is a conflict in the way WM2003 Phone edition addresses memory calls (to ROM or SD cards)and WM2003 function.
The memory calls are typically made once a Theme switch is made. Remeber themes not only change Today's screen, but all other colors in the apps. Somehow, our WM PE overrides the memory allocation on the SD cards, renaming them and causing our erasures. This will sometimes happen when we get an SMS or have a custom ring or sound profile installed or after a soft reset.
So no solution for the issue other than " the lock" button. The default theme is a good alternative, but I suspect we will still have some more erasures related to this memory addressing issue.
Furthermore, it is unlikely that T-Mobile or other OEMs will fix the issue on their own volition...They are having many challenges with stable stacks and custom builds!!!
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- I might just consider going back to v3.17 w/the ATT Radio stack

strange, i started developing problems with .21 yesturday too!
first the internet kept getting disconnected, i thought it was the GPS cozin it. but then at night the backlight started acting up. even when im using the device. a note on that tho, if i play movie clips, the light stayed on! it was a 12 minute clip, it stayed on the whole time, once it was over, light turned off.
also, i notice the gprs internet is extremly slower than b4
i must say, the ONLY thing i like about 2003 is the media player, it has better video rendering, i wish they made it installble on 2002
nothin wrong with that version. heh

ntabikha said:
strange, i started developing problems with .21 yesturday too!
first the internet kept getting disconnected, i thought it was the GPS cozin it. but then at night the backlight started acting up. even when im using the device. a note on that tho, if i play movie clips, the light stayed on! it was a 12 minute clip, it stayed on the whole time, once it was over, light turned off.
also, i notice the gprs internet is extremly slower than b4
i must say, the ONLY thing i like about 2003 is the media player, it has better video rendering, i wish they made it installble on 2002
nothin wrong with that version. heh
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I'm with you on the media player AND the slow GPRS...it's r-e-a-l slow. I wasn't sure if it was worth mentioning but your account of it confirms it for me.

great!
I updated to 4.0021. T-Mobile device bought in USA. I live in Europe.
Now I have band switcher, good GPRS connection (no breaks), auto-response.
One problem: some web page said me "you cannot open this page because your browser does not use cookies. please...." blablabla
?
I see this meeasge first time, previously PIE did it (shown) ok. I checked settings of PIE, cookies are running. Any ideas?

You know what, I've just done some connection tests at www.texan.net/speed.htm and I'm currently getting the following connection rates:
81.5kbps, 104kbps, 81.6kbps
I get these readings by going to that URL, and in a 10 minute period I would run a test twice at the beginning, then twice again on the 5th minute, and two more times on the 10th minute, using the 2nd reading each time (in order to get the reading with a cleared cache).
- with these speeds (I'm used to similar readings on my other WM2k3 PPCs and connecting via Sprint's CF2031) pages come up so quick, but on my T-Mobile MDA, running WM2k3 v4.00.21, w/RS6.24, plus my new 64MB onboard RAM from PPCTechs.com and 3 bars on the meter, pages are rendering much s-l-o-w-e-r than what they should.
Going back to either 4.00.16 or even 2k2 is starting to look even better right about now.

Since I upgraded to .21 I do not receive all my calls and do not getting some SMS messages.
I'm testing it until friday and if it keeps this way i'm going back this weekend to .16 which was very very stable and I liked very much.

MDA Pro crashing randomly when composing TXTS - Heeeelp plz!

I've had this problem for awhile now, and i was just thinking it was some 'quirk' with the T-mobile ROM, but recently i've installed the new ROM, and i'm getting the exact same problem, so i really am confused now :/
(I haven't installed any apps, or hacked the device in anyway btw)
Basically, i'll be composing a standard TXT, and the brightness on the screen will go to maximum (as if it's been plugged into charge) then when i come to pressing 'send' it does nothing. Then i close the messaging app, then whatever i try to load, it comes up with a 'this program is unsigned' error, all the txt on the screen does white, and basically everything looks screwed.
If i go into task manager and close the messaging app, then the screen goes back to its normal brightness, but the application errors still continue.
The only way to get around this, is by rebooting the device, but then once it's reloaded, it seems to randomly loose my latest TXTs/e-mails!
Really starting to annoy me now!
Does anyone have ANY Idea what might be causing this, or experienced this before?
Any help appreciated!
Thanks

*bump*
No one else had a similar problem?

OK and another thing ive noticed, when i go to the lock options, even if i type in an incorrect PIN, or even if i click 'ok' it just bypasses the lock screen! How s**t is that!
I've got no idea what's up with this phone, but i'm really pissed off with it now, i'm sending it to t-mobile for their engineers to look at, but im 99% sure that they'll run a few simple tests on it, and declare that it's totally fine, then send it back to me... GRRRRRRRR :evil:

hey same thing happening to me too.
mine too sometimes goes to full brightness while composing SMS. If u then switch off the phone(by power button), it comes up with a message box asking for driver. In the end, i hv to reboot the device.
And the poor part is that it doesnt happens all the times. This has started happening to since I have upgraded to latest imate ROM(I have O2 Exec). I had similar problem with the latest Qtekk ROM.
The only thing i d not installed was 'ms_.nbf' from both of the ROMs,which is actually represent the 'extended rom' of HTC devices.

kdskamal said:
hey same thing happening to me too.
mine too sometimes goes to full brightness while composing SMS. If u then switch off the phone(by power button), it comes up with a message box asking for driver. In the end, i hv to reboot the device.
And the poor part is that it doesnt happens all the times. This has started happening to since I have upgraded to latest imate ROM(I have O2 Exec). I had similar problem with the latest Qtekk ROM.
The only thing i d not installed was 'ms_.nbf' from both of the ROMs,which is actually represent the 'extended rom' of HTC devices.
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Ahh, well i'm glad im not the only one!
I'm going to assume it's a hardware issue..... possibly..... because ive had the exact same problem on the past 2 t-mobile ROMs. So annoying :S

why dont u give a try to other ROMs like imate, qtekk. May be, you do away with this 'annoying' problem somehow

kdskamal said:
why dont u give a try to other ROMs like imate, qtekk. May be, you do away with this 'annoying' problem somehow
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Well i've had problems with the past 2 T-mobile ROMs, so i'm thinking that it's not really an issue with the software.. but i really dont know. Have you fixed the problem, or are you still getting it?

Pooper said:
kdskamal said:
why dont u give a try to other ROMs like imate, qtekk. May be, you do away with this 'annoying' problem somehow
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Well i've had problems with the past 2 T-mobile ROMs, so i'm thinking that it's not really an issue with the software.. but i really dont know. Have you fixed the problem, or are you still getting it?
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today, i installed the latest qtekk rom with ms_.nbf(extended rom) stuff allowed to install.
Now, from past 2 days,this has not happened. yay
so far, so good

Hmmmm interesting
How frequently did you have the problem before? + can you keep me updated if you get the same problem again on this new ROM? Thanks

Pooper said:
Hmmmm interesting
How frequently did you have the problem before? + can you keep me updated if you get the same problem again on this new ROM? Thanks
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I used to suffer from this problem at least 2-3times a day. And it was very frustrating too.
Till now, not a single problem with latest qtekk ROM, FABULOUS is the word for it !!
No problem at all till now. Popper, you should give it a try now

kdskamal said:
Pooper said:
Hmmmm interesting
How frequently did you have the problem before? + can you keep me updated if you get the same problem again on this new ROM? Thanks
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I used to suffer from this problem at least 2-3times a day. And it was very frustrating too.
Till now, not a single problem with latest qtekk ROM, FABULOUS is the word for it !!
No problem at all till now. Popper, you should give it a try now
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Hmmm I might give that a go. Which ROM contains all the network setting information? Was that the "ms_.nbf" file you mentioned?
Thanks

yes, its the ms_.nbf which contains the network settings. In other words, it the one, which represents the extended rom of your device

kdskamal said:
yes, its the ms_.nbf which contains the network settings. In other words, it the one, which represents the extended rom of your device
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Gotya
Well that crappy problem has happened again today, so in a minute im gonna install the latest QTEK ROM, fingers crossed

Phone vibrates but crashes when recieving calls

After installing one of the WM6 images (The one at the top of the WM6 forum, can't remember its name) my phone now crashes when I recieve any calls. It vibrates and shows the caller on screen but then it crashes and freezes, can't do anything but hit the reset button on the back :/
Any theories on why this is happening?
(Edit: This only happens when its on standby)

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=390888

It's a WM6 related problem.
Use WM5 and you'll have no problem.

I can confirm this. I had exactly the same problem with one of the WM6 roms. Phone would ring and vibrate, but I couldn't answer, and had to soft reset to stop the vibrating.
This problem disappeared with my changing to another of the wm6 ROMs. Seems it only affects one (or some) of them. It's definitely not a battery issue, as I've witnessed this with the old, original battery as well as with two brand new replacement batteries.

Thanks for the help guys!

Clone1B said:
Thanks for the help guys!
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Anyway that's what i wrote more than ONE YEAR AGO...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306112
No DEV fixed that....

DJ Palmis said:
Anyway that's what i wrote more than ONE YEAR AGO...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306112
No DEV fixed that....
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Confirmed issue with all the 6.1 ROMs and 1.15 and beyond.
Regards

DJ Palmis said:
Anyway that's what i wrote more than ONE YEAR AGO...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=306112
No DEV fixed that....
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It might not be the ROM doing it. I downgrade from 1.15+ RADIO to the old jasjar OEM Radio 1.09 . I havent had issues with my Tomal/Ranju 7.7 since the last 14 hours or so..might help you guys as well.

rdosti said:
I havent had issues with my Tomal/Ranju 7.7 since the last 14 hours or so...
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Mhm.. Don't speak too soon.. I hope it fixes.. let me know, ok?
But.. i use WM5 for videocall.. So i will not change to wm6: just curiosity.

rdosti said:
It might not be the ROM doing it. I downgrade from 1.15+ RADIO to the old jasjar OEM Radio 1.09 . I havent had issues with my Tomal/Ranju 7.7 since the last 14 hours or so..might help you guys as well.
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i don't think that helps. i used radio rom 1.09. when i had that problem the first few times; then i flashed 1.15. and still have that problem.

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wergor said:
i don't think that helps. i used radio rom 1.09. when i had that problem the first few times; then i flashed 1.15. and still have that problem.
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My opinion and tried and tested solution - if you have HTC Home - remove it. It solved my problem, never even thought it was the culprit in the first place. But after a few latest ROM tests and subsequent re-flash back to Tomal's 7.7 with radio 1.15, I avoided installing HTC Home and had no failed calls since.

htc home was one of the first things i disabled. couldn't use it anyway; but it didn't help. flashing roms w/o htc home also didn't help, as well as upgrading to radio rom 1.18.00.
btw: my device is a G3 device. could that be a reason?

I had the same problem when I had installed HTC home, after a lot of radio and ROM testing, I found that using Ranju´s v7.6 and radio 1.09 problem disapear completly, and now I can use HTC Home!!! (The large version)
Hope this helps
Cheers

Better radio version than 1.15?

Hi I am in fringe area reception. Find that this ROM seems to lock its AGC high eg after reasonable signal, then reduced, it seems to sometimes lose signal altogether, needing a reboot. Yesterday even in a strong signal area, and reboot a few times it took 3 reboots until the radio came 'unstuck' and started to receive again.
Question is for WM6, is there a radio rom that is more reliable than this one?
If so, url pse.
Thanks vm.
Alistair.

All U can do is to test also 1.13 version. There is also possibility of faulty GSM module.

Alistair George said:
Hi I am in fringe area reception. Find that this ROM seems to lock its AGC high eg after reasonable signal, then reduced, it seems to sometimes lose signal altogether, needing a reboot. Yesterday even in a strong signal area, and reboot a few times it took 3 reboots until the radio came 'unstuck' and started to receive again.
Question is for WM6, is there a radio rom that is more reliable than this one?
If so, url pse.
Thanks vm.
Alistair.
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I had problems with the radio that were caused by the old battery.
replacing a new battery, fixed many of my BA's strange problems.
If your BA's battery is old, too, then give it a shot by changing it.

True True, i had some weird problems which were solved by purchasing new battery

xplode said:
True True, i had some weird problems which were solved by purchasing new battery
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Can understand that, because the power saving mode would lock down on radio activity, however, the battery in this unit lasts at least 3 days, and the problem occurs regardless of battery level; eg it can be on the charger when it loses signal.
Why I asked is there was a thread a while back on various radio problems and I thought some indicated a different rom was the cure. Unfortunately, could not find the thread or url for the radio roms.
Cheers,
Alistair.

yep, i used to experience faulty battery stuffed up the radio big time.

Dain your battery completely.
I was having the same issues on my BA, so that when i dropped it (5" onto a desk) and cracked the digitizer, i went out and purchased an elfin.
But i couldn't abandon my BA, so i fitted a new digitizer last night, recharged the battery which was completely drained, installed a new rom "Black Diamond Manila2D", then loaded my sim card, i had signal straight away, where i was getting none at all. I would have to drive 5 K's away from where i live to be able to get the phone to "lock on" once it lost signal, so it was a bit of a shock.
Anyway give it a go and see if it works for you.

I usually get "no signal" when I restore "pim.vol" from previous rom, it resolves when I change the above file with original one.
I did try different radio versions with same result.
pls check if this is not your case as well.
I m on fido network in canada, and 1.13 work better according to my exprience.

pkcn said:
I usually get "no signal" when I restore "pim.vol" from previous rom, it resolves when I change the above file with original one.
I did try different radio versions with same result.
pls check if this is not your case as well.
I m on fido network in canada, and 1.13 work better according to my exprience.
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Can any body help me I cant get the signal I need 800/1900 frequenc in my pda2k wtih wm6.5 please reply to [email protected]

aliraza747 said:
Can any body help me I cant get the signal I need 800/1900 frequenc in my pda2k wtih wm6.5 please reply to [email protected]
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which radio version are you using (and also which 6.5 rom)?

HD2 - Latest Firmware update [HORRIBLE]

My 2 months old hd2 behaving very oddly after latest firmware update from T-mobile site.
Problems.
1. Tries to register to the tower every minute , can notice the ... near the signal bar.
2. Time doesnot get synced.
3. No calls recieved for 3 days, had 7 voice mails from friens screaming. No notification on the phone.
Taken it to the store,
1. They tried a new sim card, no use.
2. Master reset no use.
Store called the cusotmer care.
1. They would not put accross to the tech support because need to wait 2 hrs after replacing new sim card. What a b... (really controlling myself not to write nonsense here.)
2. Store guy tried to convience the customer care for 1 hour just to transfer line to tech support . no sucess . Ordered new phone for replacment. So no phone for me till they ship the new one.
Bought HD2 , believing windows 7 will be released soon , believe microsoft fired the top guy who running the programme.
Question.
1. How do i come out of the t-mobile contract.
2. can i switch to andriod or even stupid iphone.
I been having cell phone for the past 7-8 years , first time in life without phone for a week.
wondering HD2 dumb phone or dumb tmobile or me -dumb for chosing t-mobile ???

I would suggest you try either flashing back to the previous T-Mobile stock ROM, or to a different radio, that will probably make a big difference in your reception.
Also, did you do a hard reset immediately after flashing to the new ROM?
T-Mobile gives a 14-day buyer's remorse period to be able to return the phone, but you're obviously past that now, so the only way to get out of the contract is to pay the ETF (early term. fee).
As far as the iphone, you would have to buy one elsewhere and get it unlocked to work on T-Mobile's network, and even then you wouldn't get 3G on it.

->not sure what happened in the store , now my battery will not charge, if i pull my power card, it says main batter low and dies off.
I would suggest you try either flashing back to the previous T-Mobile stock ROM, or to a different radio, that will probably make a big difference in your reception.
Also, did you do a hard reset immediately after flashing to the new ROM?
--> I did not do that , not sure if it was mentioned on the site.

senthilvv28 said:
->not sure what happened in the store , now my battery will not charge, if i pull my power card, it says main batter low and dies off..
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check for bent battery pins.

What firmware update? Has there been one in the last two months?

Phantoms said:
What firmware update? Has there been one in the last two months?
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I'm assuming he's talking about the 2.13 ROM.

senthilvv28 said:
->not sure what happened in the store , now my battery will not charge, if i pull my power card, it says main batter low and dies off.
I would suggest you try either flashing back to the previous T-Mobile stock ROM, or to a different radio, that will probably make a big difference in your reception.
Also, did you do a hard reset immediately after flashing to the new ROM?
--> I did not do that , not sure if it was mentioned on the site.
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I would first check the battery pins like samsamuel suggested, that might be the source of your batt issue now.
Then, I would first try a hard-reset as a fix for your original problems, and if that doesn't work then try a different radio.

I would just flash a custom rom to it. I use Kumars classic rom and my phones bullet proof. I don't ever need to reset or ever reboot it. I did find one bug and that was that the file explorer extenerder cab would hand if you tried to close it in task manager. So I just intal it if I need it which isnt' very often.

Sorry for the delayed reply.
The battery pin is bent, waiting for T-mobile to ship the new phone.
Hopefully will install the custom rom and let you guys know.
Thanks for your help.

senthilvv28 said:
Sorry for the delayed reply.
The battery pin is bent, waiting for T-mobile to ship the new phone.
Hopefully will install the custom rom and let you guys know.
Thanks for your help.
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Give the stock 2.13 a try with class 6 (or class 4 minimum) microsd card...I was all about custom ROM's with my android phone but I've had the HD2 for almost 3 months now and I have yet to try and flash a custom ROM. Why? Because the stock works really well. I've never gone this long without flashing a custom ROM...
I love my HD2. iPhone is not as good.

2.13. SUCKS!!!
Just wanted to let you know that ur lucky because since the update of 2.13 I've been having to restart my phone very often. I noticed before the update that when tring to send a message while receiveing one that my phone would freeze within the message screen. Now after the update no matter what once i'm receiving a message my whole phone freezes. It's a pain in the ass and tmobile programming team sucks!!!! Can someone please stare me in the direction of a good rom that I won't have this issue with and which is fast!!!! PLEASE!

having the same problem here,my answer was going back to stock and then i flashed an energy rom it freezes some times but not as often once or twice day

Pollirox79 said:
having the same problem here,my answer was going back to stock and then i flashed an energy rom it freezes some times but not as often once or twice day
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I have had Energy Rom (the "Unstable" ver) for months now and NEVER locked up. I have had to reboot the phone like once a week if it starts acting a little odd, but NEVER locked up. If your locking up this often, get a new phone under warrantee ASAP!

Gsm Elite Rom
Try my Gsm Elite Rom.
I will post on my site in about 1 hour 30 minutes.
(Just a cooked 2.13 rom with some fixes and demo games removed, mobil tv removed, ereader removed, etc.)
Runs solid.
Link to my site is in the signature,