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It would be really neat to be able to put my Wizard into 'host' mode on the wifi, and share my EDGE access out to wifi clients nearby. It'd be like having my own wifi hotspot in my pocket.
Is this possible?
this post and most others like them gets ignored by most of this forum.
Or so it seems from my month on and off reading.
Ofcoarse this is possible?
will software or service agreements allow it? most likly not.
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thogue said:
this post and most others like them gets ignored by most of this forum.
Or so it seems from my month on and off reading.
Ofcoarse this is possible?
will software or service agreements allow it? most likly not.
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I wonder why, I think its a nice thing to have, and there exists AP with 3g cards like LINKSYS WRT54G3G
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with software it would be possible i think
just a matter of making the device rount
the wifi to the connection
but edge and even 3g is not really fast enough to share with anybody without comming down to a crawl
which is prob why there have been no demand and so
no developing for the field
gprs/edge > BT > PC >WiFi > WLAN
easy to do, conect to data service throught your computer with BT or USB then in settings share internet connection (via Wifi) with other users.
draco42 said:
It would be really neat to be able to put my Wizard into 'host' mode on the wifi, and share my EDGE access out to wifi clients nearby. It'd be like having my own wifi hotspot in my pocket.
Is this possible?
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Check this link :
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=453&more=1
another painfull way, but may work for u.
I think it has something to do either with no one caring/caring about terms of service possibly.
I'm not sure if this is normal or not. I just got my Cingular 8125 and the wifi is very slow. I don't know how to measure the actual speed but for instance on my broadband connection, going to Google.com opens up in about a second. On dial up it takes about 5 seconds. However, on my phone using wifi, it takes about 20 seconds. When using wifi on my laptop, it is comparable to my broadband speeds my router is connected to.
I have pretty slow GPRS service as well and wifi is comparable.
I get the same slow speed on 802.11b as well as 802.11g networks (g network with registry hack)
Is this normal? The wifi speeds with the unit brand new out of the box was very slow. I flashed the rom and even overclocked to 240, the wifi internet is still painfully slow. I don't really find this useable. If I go to a page with images and such it can take a minute or so.
Anyone have any suggestions? Are others getting good speed on wifi. I tested by watching a streaming video and the speed shown on the bottom of windows media was 18k.
Were my expectations too high? Is there a setting I have incorrect?
IdeaDirect said:
I'm not sure if this is normal or not. I just got my Cingular 8125 and the wifi is very slow. I don't know how to measure the actual speed but for instance on my broadband connection, going to Google.com opens up in about a second. On dial up it takes about 5 seconds. However, on my phone using wifi, it takes about 20 seconds. When using wifi on my laptop, it is comparable to my broadband speeds my router is connected to.
I have pretty slow GPRS service as well and wifi is comparable.
I get the same slow speed on 802.11b as well as 802.11g networks (g network with registry hack)
Is this normal? The wifi speeds with the unit brand new out of the box was very slow. I flashed the rom and even overclocked to 240, the wifi internet is still painfully slow. I don't really find this useable. If I go to a page with images and such it can take a minute or so.
Anyone have any suggestions? Are others getting good speed on wifi. I tested by watching a streaming video and the speed shown on the bottom of windows media was 18k.
Were my expectations too high? Is there a setting I have incorrect?
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Always best to be sure that you are actually using the wifi connection - Try disconnecting the gprs first before you connect to wifi. I have an issue where if I leave my gprs connection enabled all the time it takes precedence over my wifi no matter what.
Bratag said:
Always best to be sure that you are actually using the wifi connection - Try disconnecting the gprs first before you connect to wifi. I have an issue where if I leave my gprs connection enabled all the time it takes precedence over my wifi no matter what.
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Tried that but still no luck. When connected by wifi, I see the little wifi icon on the title bar. When connecting to GPRS, it shows the E and actually a pop-up saying it is connecting to GPRS. This part is actually working great. Uses wifi by default when wifi is on and GPRS is not.
I did try to disable GPRS entirely but still get the same slow results.
I also changed the wifi setting to maximize performance instead of save battery life. Didn't seem to matter.
I may experiment with Opera Mini or something to see if I can get some improved speeds.
no problems with wifi here. getting a faster connection than GPRS, even at hotspots.
I had a problem with my wifi connection in that the DHCP server giving out an incorrect address for one of the DNS servers. This made the wifi slow, because Internet Explorer kept on trying to lookup the IP of a host using the broken DNS, and then falling back to the second in the list.
You try specifying a DNS server manually to diagnose the problem.
Cingular 8125 WiFi Fix that works!
Believe it or not the support for this product from HTC, the mfgr, is great and fast! That being said, I like most users have spent days hunting for solutions to the problem and you will not find them anywhere. But here is the solution:
First you must have an unlimited account for data usage or forget your WiFi...well at least simply. Also, you must get Cingular to flip a switch for your 8125 to automatically switch from WiFi to GPRS and back depending on what is the best signal. It works great once the switch is set.
The only way I found to do this was to call support and make sure you get to the HTC support group. They will guide you quickly through getting setup but you must tell them about the switch so they call Cingular and have the switch set. For some reason Cingular, no surprise, does not seem to know about this when they sell you the plan and the phone.
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mostinc said:
Believe it or not the support for this product from HTC, the mfgr, is great and fast! That being said, I like most users have spent days hunting for solutions to the problem and you will not find them anywhere. But here is the solution:
First you must have an unlimited account for data usage or forget your WiFi...well at least simply. Also, you must get Cingular to flip a switch for your 8125 to automatically switch from WiFi to GPRS and back depending on what is the best signal. It works great once the switch is set.
The only way I found to do this was to call support and make sure you get to the HTC support group. They will guide you quickly through getting setup but you must tell them about the switch so they call Cingular and have the switch set. For some reason Cingular, no surprise, does not seem to know about this when they sell you the plan and the phone.
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Thank you so much. This sounds like the solution I'm looking for. So are you saying to call HTC support and they will contact Cingular to have the switch set on my behalf?? Or do I just call Cingular and tell them to "turn the switch on"?
I do have an unlimited GPRS for data usage.
what a crock of steaming brown stuff :x .... what exactly does wifi have to do with your telco? ... nothing. There maybe some registry entry that Cingular have set when the device ships which causes poor WiFi speeds but your GPRS data plan has nothing to do with WiFi data, unless you are talking about connecting to Cingular WiFi hotspots. The only changes needed will be on your device not within the Telco network.
before calling support, try this:
Go to comm mgr and turn off the phone. Then turn on WiFi and let it connect. Check your speed with www.2wire.com. If your speed is still slow, and another PC connected to that HotSpot isn't (test the PC with 2wire also) then your 8125 is bad.
Using the WiFi icon v.s. the "E" icon is no way to determine what wireless system you're using btw...
Sleuth255 said:
before calling support, try this:
Go to comm mgr and turn off the phone. Then turn on WiFi and let it connect. Check your speed with www.2wire.com. If your speed is still slow, and another PC connected to that HotSpot isn't (test the PC with 2wire also) then your 8125 is bad.
Using the WiFi icon v.s. the "E" icon is no way to determine what wireless system you're using btw...
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Ok, I tried 2wire. My laptop connected to my wifi network and clocks in at 3.2Mbps and my 8125 is showing 221 kbps. multiple tests showed 228, 205, 220). Perhaps it is unrealistic to expect similar speed as my laptop.
I turned the com manager phone back on and connected via GPRS and the speed test came back at 64.8 kbps.
So it does look like this method is working. I can live with 221 kbps.
By the way, I emailed Cingular and HTS. I got the following response from Cingular:
Thank you for contacting Data Support!
There is an additional setting that you need to enable/disable manually every time you switch between GPRS and Wi Fi, please take a look at it:
[they sent a link to a page not found]
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I think it's always going to be slow because of the way the phone is designed. Probably small bus interface. My friend has a 6700 wich cpu wise is pretty much the same based on comparison but his is much faster through wifi.
"I think it's always going to be slow because of the way the phone is designed. Probably small bus interface. My friend has a 6700 wich cpu wise is pretty much the same based on comparison but his is much faster through wifi."
No no no no no no and no.
small bus interface? for heavens sake... you have heard that there is something called a "bus" inside computers and that it is used to "transfer data" and this "bus interface" is small in the qtek so it is a viable candidate to blame slow transfers on.
no.
any memory bus designed after 1980 is capable of 200kbit transfers.
the main reason for the horrid speed of the 9100 is the stupid software design where every system call in a program gets interrupted by the os which in turn, after checking who-knows-what, in the name of "security" and "stability", and then executed. Of course this hinders performance dramaticaly without affecting stability and security a single bit: it still crashes. the difference is that it is also slow.
I'm running Xelencin's custom 2.17 ROM for T-mobile on my 8125. His ROM sets the device up to work with an 802.11 g wifi connection. I kid you not - I have measured 900 to 1200 Kbps on my wifi at home (comcast) and at work (T1). It's blazing fast.
To measure your speed, go to www.dslreports.com. Click on the lowfi version at the top of the page. Then click on speed test. Then choose either 600K or 1 MB and then let it do the test.
You may have some setting wrong.
I have an 'adhoc' wireless network (running at 11Mbs) and i stream large lossless (FLAC) audio files to my Squeezebox 3 wireless music player with no issues whatsoever.
However, the MDA can't cope at all. FLAC files play great from the MiniSD, but wifi performance is worse than terrible.
Yes, the wifi speed of the MDA is s**t.
That said, if anyone has any tips on how to increase perfomance please let me know!
Thanks.
My Wifi would not work at all when I updated my ROM but this utility fixed that and sped things up. I recommend backing up your device before executing because I have only tried this on QTEK 9100 with a beta 2.8 ROM.
tsiros said:
"I think it's always going to be slow because of the way the phone is designed. Probably small bus interface. My friend has a 6700 wich cpu wise is pretty much the same based on comparison but his is much faster through wifi."
No no no no no no and no.
small bus interface? for heavens sake... you have heard that there is something called a "bus" inside computers and that it is used to "transfer data" and this "bus interface" is small in the qtek so it is a viable candidate to blame slow transfers on.
no.
any memory bus designed after 1980 is capable of 200kbit transfers.
the main reason for the horrid speed of the 9100 is the stupid software design where every system call in a program gets interrupted by the os which in turn, after checking who-knows-what, in the name of "security" and "stability", and then executed. Of course this hinders performance dramaticaly without affecting stability and security a single bit: it still crashes. the difference is that it is also slow.
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Excuse me for my ignorance... But then how do you explain that the 6700 can handle 700kb wireless while 9100's usually around 220kB? The Intel proc on the 6700 seems comparable to the Omap,no?
keitht said:
My Wifi would not work at all when I updated my ROM but this utility fixed that and sped things up. I recommend backing up your device before executing because I have only tried this on QTEK 9100 with a beta 2.8 ROM.
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What exactly does this cab change?
Reconfiguring DNS may make a significant improvement?
I came across your post after my own concerns with my I-mate K-Jam (Wizard) WiFi performance. My GPRS connection was at least twice as fast.
My problem was that is was taking at least 30~60 seconds to locate a web page and another 10~15 seconds to open the page. Once connected it seemed to work OK but operation via GPRS was still faster.
My K-Jam has a ROM that permits G connection and my AP is set to G only. After reading all the articles in this post (and others), I ran the 600K download at DLSreports.com. To my surprise, my download rate was actually + 500kbit/sec which lead me to believe I might have DNS issues.
I used vxUtil (http://www.cam.com/windowsce.html) to check my DNS settings. My primary DNS being picked up from my DSL modem was the DSL modems gateway address which works fine in my Toshiba laptop. My secondary DNS was my ISP's backup.
I reconfigured my DSL modems DHCP server so that the DNS servers being dished up to my K-Jam are my ISP's primary and secondary servers and I performed a soft reset.
The speed increase was substantial! Pages are located and opened within 5 seconds now making my WiFi connection useable.
This may be worth a try for others with similar issues?
I figured out that using my Imagio as a WiFi Router drains the battery faster than it can charge. This is bad for a sometimes day-long connection using low bandwidth sites (live blogging for hours on CoverItLive.com).
Typically, I use the Imagio when WiFi isn't available, or is flat out ridiculously priced ($thousands in some convention centers).
I have to work with my partner, who also needs a connection, and sharing it would be oh so convenient using WiFi. So I thought, why not share my Imagio's connection by using Internet Connection Sharing on my computer through the WiFi. Not so fast: all ICS uses a fixed IP of 192.168.0.1. Conflict city when you try to use ICS twice in the same daisy chain.
"So", says I, "why not use Network Bridging to accomplish the same thing?". Well, this works in getting the signal to my partner's machine. She can internet beautifully. But, it turns out, my machine can't access the Internet anymore so long as the Imagio's ICS is bridged to the machine's built in WiFi. Take it out of the bridge, it works on my machine but not my partner's. Put it in the bridge, it doesn't on my machine, but it does on my partner's.
Anyone have any insight as to how this can be accomplished. Imagio ICS via USB to computer A, computer A's Wifi set in ad-hoc mode to be used as a router to get Internet to computer B, both machines being able to access the Internet.
Also, USB-Modem works with ICS on the laptop, but it uses dial-up, and the problem with that is that if you stop using it for a certain period of time, it loses the connection, which can screw up things royally. ICS is much more consistent.
There has to be a way that bridging can be used without taking the Imagio's ICS out of that computer's universe.
None of this would be a problem if she got a WM phone instead of the LG Touch (which requires a hefty monthly plan to use it as a modem).
Thanks to any who know more about this than me or have some other ideas.
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You can configure ICS on the phone to use a different IP range (probably also possible on the PC but don't know how).
So then you can use Phone->ICS->USB->ComputerA->ICS->Wi-Fi->ComputerB
WMWifiRouter uses 192.168.3.x instead of .0.x by default. I think this can also be configured using ICS Control.
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I figured out that using my Imagio as a WiFi Router drains the battery faster than it can charge. This is bad for a sometimes day-long connection using low bandwidth sites (live blogging for hours on CoverItLive.com).
Typically, I use the Imagio when WiFi isn't available, or is flat out ridiculously priced ($thousands in some convention centers).
I have to work with my partner, who also needs a connection, and sharing it would be oh so convenient using WiFi. So I thought, why not share my Imagio's connection by using Internet Connection Sharing on my computer through the WiFi. Not so fast: all ICS uses a fixed IP of 192.168.0.1. Conflict city when you try to use ICS twice in the same daisy chain.
"So", says I, "why not use Network Bridging to accomplish the same thing?". Well, this works in getting the signal to my partner's machine. She can internet beautifully. But, it turns out, my machine can't access the Internet anymore so long as the Imagio's ICS is bridged to the machine's built in WiFi. Take it out of the bridge, it works on my machine but not my partner's. Put it in the bridge, it doesn't on my machine, but it does on my partner's.
Anyone have any insight as to how this can be accomplished. Imagio ICS via USB to computer A, computer A's Wifi set in ad-hoc mode to be used as a router to get Internet to computer B, both machines being able to access the Internet.
Also, USB-Modem works with ICS on the laptop, but it uses dial-up, and the problem with that is that if you stop using it for a certain period of time, it loses the connection, which can screw up things royally. ICS is much more consistent.
There has to be a way that bridging can be used without taking the Imagio's ICS out of that computer's universe.
None of this would be a problem if she got a WM phone instead of the LG Touch (which requires a hefty monthly plan to use it as a modem).
Thanks to any who know more about this than me or have some other ideas.
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I use WM WiFirouter, it is a great program with multiple different configurations. I use it at home on an old IPAQ hooked to my PC as a wireless router so my kids can use the internet on their laptops.
WM WiFi Router was my first choice. Note the point I made that the battery drains faster than it can recharge. This becomes something of a problem after an hour or so.
Sadly, I got the connection sharing option to work now on the laptop using ICS control, but it seems to disconnect the WiFi ad-hoc network. And doesn't actually share through the WiFi. I suspect this is a problem with the way the WiFi on the laptop works, since I had the same problem with Network Bridging, and had to run a Dos script to enable the WiFi. It only works when bridging is being used, so I have to find the equivalent for when bridging isn't being used but ICS is.
I don't suppose anyone knows anything about *that*?
EDIT: I just downloaded the latest version of WMWifiRouter, which has USB connection support and seems to be a whole lot more reliable in general. AND IT WORKS with connection sharing, the laptop WiFi works as a router, and it DOES solve my problems. Thanks for the suggestion that made me reconsider it again.
EDIT +1: Still uses up the battery faster than it charges. Not as fast as WiFi though. WMWifiRouter is a pretty amazing connection sharing tool kit with USB, BT and WiFi connectivity and lots of control without the weird IP address pathologies. Amazing that it also gets around my laptop's weird connection sharing WiFi pathology as well. Another nice thing is the "keep connection alive" ping feature, and the real time power status and information. They really try to pack a lot of useful stuff for your $20.
i don't know if it's ok what I'm saying here, but I'll give it a try...
I have internet on my mobile, but mostly I live from open wifi conections.
in my house there is only one conection and it's secured. because i download aplications and stuff when I'm home this makes me want to conect to this wifi. is there a method to do it? if it's the one that involves me asking people, i did some searching and nothing...
Connecting to secured wifi is no problem... unless, and i assume this to be the case, it's not your WiFi or you don't have the passkeys?
There are no effective WiFi sniffers / packet analyzers on android to speak of. Those tools have not been ported due to the fact that the drivers created for the wireless chipsets do not support monitor mode. A custom driver would have to be written before porting these tools can have any usefull outcome.
Hi,
as there are no threads about this (i havent found anything), i will post a new one.
my main question is: is it possible to get a wifi connection on your phone and share this connection at the same time through wifi (so you get a wifi hotspot or whatever)? (android, windows mobile, windows phone -> whatever, got a HD2)
it works on multiple computers with windows 7, but i never got how to do that with ma HD2.
hopefully,
sallal
EDIT: forgot the [Q] thing, sry
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#push
they're are many apps that can do this, just search WIFI tether in the market (android), IDK about WM7 though.
For android you can also run CM7 which has tethering built into it. I use it and it works like a charm, it's fast too.
Sorry for my question ,but with this program i can use my tablet as a router?
I have 3G so i can use this connection for internet and WIFI for make my tablet a router?
the app allows you to "tether"/use your device as a router. SO yes.
The are CMInternetSharing package that is used to share internet connection from a Mobile (that we get using GPRS/3G) as a WiFi Router to others...
If you have a WiFi Connection that your mobile is consuming then what is the need for re-sharing same connection from mobile?
Let me know if I am not sure about the question
Thanks.
Am no expert but i think this is true...
A wireless device can either be used as a client or as a router, you would need 2 wireless interfaces to do what you are looking for. When the tether apps start they configure your wireless interface as a router... I dont believe it can be running as both types at once.
but you most defenetly could use your 3g or whatever cell signal you have and offer it thru a wifi interface, you must have root access.
Cheers
maybe there is a way
you could switch the wifi with a 3g lookalike so 3g uses your wifi and then download a wifi tether i am looking for this quit a time and i diddn't found anything but this is al theory
I do it with a stock app of my device, it's calls "3g mobile's wifi point"
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marlonmelieste said:
you could switch the wifi with a 3g lookalike so 3g uses your wifi and then download a wifi tether i am looking for this quit a time and i diddn't found anything but this is al theory
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hmm that would be a thing i should look at...
i always used on windows 7 "connectify me", a program made for taking wireless internet connection or LAN and sharing it at the same time as a router.
the virtual wifi miniport is used for this i suppose.
maybe there is something like the virtual miniport to manage in windows mobile or android?
sallal said:
Hi,
it works on multiple computers with windows 7, but i never got how to do that with ma HD2.
hopefully,
sallal
EDIT: forgot the [Q] thing, sry
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I use one from the XDA forums, search for wifi router
It works great on my HD2 with WINMO
sir,i have already mentioned.....try "mhotspot" easily converts ur lap/pc into wifi hotspot(n/w will be detected by android mobiles,worked for my ACE) its better than connectify because..we dont need to install it..and soo we can over come protocol related problems and system instability issues