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Sorry if this is too simplistic but I have just bought an XDA Exec and am trying to configure it for wi-fi. Unfortunately, when it asks for the wep key I try and enter it but it wont fit. There seems to be space for only 20 characters and the wep key is 26 characters long. Any ideas please. I have previously set up wi-fi on a Sony TH55 and an Ipaq 5550 with no problems but this XDA has beaten me! :shock:
change to a shorter wep key?
Even thought there appears to be less room than necessary, you can go right ahead and input all the numbers!
Cheers
DC :wink:
davidberrysmith said:
change to a shorter wep key?
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I suppose i could do that but it means a lower level of wireless security. That seems to be a retrograde step. I thought this thing was cutting edge. :roll:
dc said:
Even thought there appears to be less room than necessary, you can go right ahead and input all the numbers!
Cheers
DC :wink:
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You were absolutely right. Thanks very much for the help!
Thank you for the help. The screen on this thing is excellent. I think I'm going to like it!
No probs!
How do you actually manage to not kill your wifi network? As you can read from my post, when I connect, my network crashes
dc said:
No probs!
How do you actually manage to not kill your wifi network? As you can read from my post, when I connect, my network crashes
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Not sure why but it works perfectly at the moment. It's connected via a BT Voyager 2000 along with a desktop PC and an iBook and they are all fine.
my phone connects to any unencrypted open network from a router or my pc. but whenever I encrypt the network by wep and put a key on it. it fails to connect instead keeps showing the disappearing arrows that signify the phone is trying to connect how do I fix this?
turn off wpa security on your router or flash a rom which can handle it
Hey thanks for replying i have also tried t network it with my pc which does not have that security just the network key. Can you name a rom that can handle it? Even the original rom i had couldn handle it.
d3aded said:
Hey thanks for replying i have also tried t network it with my pc which does not have that security just the network key. Can you name a rom that can handle it? Even the original rom i had couldn handle it.
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sorry, i don't understand very well what you just said. use your pc to adjust your router's security settings.
i don't know which - if any - roms can handle wpa security, but i spent months trying to work out the problem, then i turned wpa off and it now works. i have not bothered to turn it back on since, so i don't know if any roms work with it
Just don't use an auto-generated key but a WPA SHARED KEY (the option where you define your own wirless network password). Pay attention that you enter this password exactly as you did in the router! I tried plenty of ROMs before I was gone with a shipped version again and never had a problem with this settings! BTW: my router is a LINKSYS54GS.
Maybe it helps in future if people post their router model? At least we could locate which routers are the most common trouble makers for the WIZ ...
Junner2003 said:
Maybe it helps in future if people post their router model? At least we could locate which routers are the most common trouble makers for the WIZ ...
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i read about belkins being a problem before i turned wpa off
mine is an inventel and came with the orange internet connection
hmmm the thing is i connect it with my pc since i dont have a wireless router, i dont use the infrastructure type of networking, i use the ad hoc type, but even when i took it to my friends place where he had a router and gave me the key it stil wouldnt work, and i dont want other people sneaking in on my internet, so theres no way to make a wep encrypted network work on the o2? and i put in my own key very carefully as a precaution
im surprised to find that other people have this problem as well
you'll have to read the networking forum in the general area. i read every threads first post until i found a couple which looked like they might help.
Hi, thanks in advance for help.
I have someone leeching off my Wifi net, who seems to be able to 'break-in' no matter how i secure the WiFi net.
Anyone know of any free Windows Mobile software that will show signal strength of Wifi CLIENTS nearby. Not Access Points, but CLIENTs.
I want to go find this guy.
thanks
Hi there!
If you got an "leecher" on your network I would recommend you to start your search on your router.
You didn't provide any specs, how did you find out that someone is on your network?
Next question, have you changed both, router pass and wlan key?
Are u using weak encryption (wep)?
Whats about your mac-filter?active?
I would guess you've got an dhcp server on your network/router... go there and check the dhcp releases. Any suspicious entrys? You should know all the devices listed there. If you have found a IP you don't know, ping it and check if its alive (those packages can be ignored by the host), try to access it via smb, you could also try a demo of languard and try to read out details like os, user, owner...
I'm almost shure you can't use your wm device to locate a client of a network, unless you can switch your wlancard to ap-mode and he connects to you ^^
Nope, need signal strenght reader if poss.
Thanks for the comment, but I'm pretty security savvy, and have done most of what you recommend.
I actually can't believe he's still getting in when I've locked down so tight.
Anyway, it's a CLIENT signal strengh program that I'm trying to find.
Rogue clients are malicious wireless client devices that either try to gain illegitimate access to your WLAN or try to disrupt normal wireless service by launching attacks. There are numerous ready-to-launch wireless attack tools freely available on the net. Many of them are open sourced and work pretty well with most Wireless client cards. This turns any curious mind to professional hacker in minutes. Many do it simply for the pleasure of being able to disturb someone remotely. All these developments force WLAN administrators to give a second look at any wireless client that is misbehaving.
What means most of that what i recommended?
Did you actually change the router password AND the wlan key?
Sorry, I don't think that you can trace him with your mobile. as long as hes not connected to your mobilephones wireless network (wich requires your mobile wlan device to switch to ap-mode).
Forget about that.
Please tell us, why do you think somebody is on your network, how did you find out... whats the "evidence" for you that there is somebody.
I'd like to help u, but i need some further details to lock him out.
I hope you know that its just a matter of minutes to break a wep key. GPUs are used to decode it, which is damn fast!
So please provide more specs about your network.
Greetings
1: Use WPA instead of WEP.
WEP is crackable in a matter of seconds.
2: Assign access control/MAC filtering
3: Use your network in ad-hoc mode
Well, WPA is crackable too.
The person in question might change his MAC to yours and create collisions anyways
Can you be sure that he has really associated with your router. I have noticed some client/router combinations "apparently" associate but all traffic is blocked because they did not provide the right key.
As others say - use WPA WPA2 and use a strong (non dictionary) passphrase
get a computer that can run airodump or something similar.
run airodump with it set to the channel of you router - not in hopping mode as you will miss lots of packets.
Airodump will tell you the strength of the signal from his computer so if you have this on a laptop you can move around and possibly can an idea roughly where he is
Thank you, i will try Airodump
Thanks in particular Scote.
I didn't list the router config simply becuase I am confident it's pretty secure:
Router is a new Belkin N1
- 63 random char password from grc.com/passwords
- SSID is "netgear" even though its a Belkin : intention to mislead for access URL.
- WPA2-PSK AES encryption
- SSID not broadcasting
I didn't bother with MAC filtering, as I understand a good 'hacker' can spoof it : If this guy can get through WPA2 I would say he can probably MAC spoof.
My 'evidence', is that up to 3 unkown computers turn up on the 'Clients List', around 4 hours after I change the SSID/password : Each time.
I have 2 laptops, so I will try Airodump or maybe Backtrack (suggested elswhere) on these as a 'direction finder' based on signal strength.
Hmmm...I did read somewhere you can set a Kaiser to be an access point...
Thanks all
Yes you can.
Someone found his stolen Wii/mobile phone (don't remember which one) that way.
There was even an article on the net.
My Tab is brand new from Staples bought yesterday. After unpacking and charging,
wi-fi won't connect to my Verizon DSL wireless router. The Tab has v3.0.1 software.
I've read about plenty of wi-fi issues with the 3.1 upgrade, but, are there know issues with v 3.0.1 software.
I am looking for suggestions and help. Thanks
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My Tab is brand new from Staples bought yesterday. After unpacking and charging,
wi-fi won't connect to my Verizon DSL wireless router. The Tab has v3.0.1 software.
I've read about plenty of wi-fi issues with the 3.1 upgrade, but, are there know issues with v 3.0.1 software.
I am looking for suggestions and help. Thanks
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a little more info might help, like what the wifi does, does it just join, but just says remember, or does it not find at all, or does wifi say error completely??
jakomo73 said:
a little more info might help, like what the wifi does, does it just join, but just says remember, or does it not find at all, or does wifi say error completely??
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Thanks for your reply.
I never got connected. It says trying to obtain an IP address, or something like that. I also tried several resets using the paper clip procedure to no avail.
And is your router secured with a key? If so, were you prompted to add it before trying to connect? Did you add it correctly?
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And is your router secured with a key? If so, were you prompted to add it before trying to connect? Did you add it correctly?
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It never asked for the password because it never got an IP address assigned to it.
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It never asked for the password because it never got an IP address assigned to it.
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It can't get an IP address unless it has the WEP key to connect to it.
I take it your router isn't secured then.
Or maybe it's different for DSL *shrug* I don't know.
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It can't get an IP address unless it has the WEP key to connect to it.
I take it your router isn't secured then.
Or maybe it's different for DSL *shrug* I don't know.
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I may be wrong, but I think it must first have an IP address assigned to it by the router. Then, you must give the password to get connected.
That's how it works for my laptops and iPod Touches.
jostarr said:
I may be wrong, but I think it must first have an IP address assigned to it by the router. Then, you must give the password to get connected.
That's how it works for my laptops and iPod Touches.
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Take it back and exchange it.....
my first one had wifi issues as well... hardware issue.
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I may be wrong, but I think it must first have an IP address assigned to it by the router. Then, you must give the password to get connected.
That's how it works for my laptops and iPod Touches.
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I don't know. That might very well be a "DSL" thing. But in order to connect to a wireless router (which has been secured with a WEP key) one must first add the WEP key to the device then, and only then, will the device be able to connect - not the other way around.
Don't confuse 'password' with 'WEP key'. While their job is similar (preventing unauthorized users from connecting) the lack of a WEP key prevents connection, period, while a password requires a connection first.
But like I said, for DSL routers, maybe it's different - the only thing I can think of would be for you to log into your router from your laptop/desktop and check the wireless settings to see if it is indeed secured with a key - if so, write it down and try again from the tab, making sure that you input the key before it tries to connect.
Of course it *could* be a hardware issue. but it sounds to me like you're missing something.
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I don't know. That might very well be a "DSL" thing. But in order to connect to a wireless router (which has been secured with a WEP key) one must first add the WEP key to the device then, and only then, will the device be able to connect - not the other way around.
Don't confuse 'password' with 'WEP key'. While their job is similar (preventing unauthorized users from connecting) the lack of a WEP key prevents connection, period, while a password requires a connection first.
But like I said, for DSL routers, maybe it's different - the only thing I can think of would be for you to log into your router from your laptop/desktop and check the wireless settings to see if it is indeed secured with a key - if so, write it down and try again from the tab, making sure that you input the key before it tries to connect.
Of course it *could* be a hardware issue. but it sounds to me like you're missing something.
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If it says it is still waiting for an IP address, I can't type anything in....WEP key or password. I may have not been clear with the problem. It "sees" my router, but is constantly trying to obtain an IP address. Sorry for the confusion.
There's no confusion. Of course it will see your router if the router is broadcasting its SSID. That still doesn't mean you *can* connect to it.
Log into your router and check if your wireless is secured with a key. If it is, then you need to add it to your tab *before* it can get an IP address. I can't be any clearer about that.
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There's no confusion. Of course it will see your router if the router is broadcasting its SSID. That still doesn't mean you *can* connect to it.
Log into your router and check if your wireless is secured with a key. If it is, then you need to add it to your tab *before* it can get an IP address. I can't be any clearer about that.
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Ok, thanks. I know the WEP key. But I don't low how\where to enter it into the Tab. I would appreciate it if you could post step by step instructions. Up till now, I have been trying to follow what the Acer manual pdf says:
"If you did not connect to a Wi-Fi network when you first started your tablet, or want to connect to a new network, tap Apps > Settings > Wireless & networks to manage your connection settings. Alternatively, tap the Wi-Fi status icon in the bottom-right corner of the screen.
If Wi-Fi is not on, tap Turn on Wi-Fi, and wait for your tablet to detect nearby networks. Tap the name of your network and enter a security password, if needed."
Right. Click on the network, add the WEP key where it says 'password'.
I'll try it later when I get home from work and will post my results. Thanks for you help.
What you're doing sounds strange. I too have a DSL router, but it works no different than any other router I've ever had. I've had several Android devices including tablets, and they all work the same. When you try to connect to a protected network, it will prompt you for a password. It cannot obtain an IP without the password, this step occurs after the password verification.
I have had issues where my remembered networks just sometimes sit at "Obtaining an IP address...", and never connect. Usually a reboot solves this problem. I tend to have more issues with WPA networks than WEP, but almost nobody uses WEP anymore.
But, there really shouldn't be a trick to it. Click on the network and it will prompt you for a password (WEP or WPA, works the same). If you've already done this, try rebooting.
I've never had the experience that jostarr has, where I needed to enter a key before a password.
Otherwise, like one of the other posters stated, it could be a hardware issue.
Problem solved.
I tried the Factory Reset from the settings menu. It took a few minutes to reset and reboot. A s soon as I went to the Wi-Fi settings, it found my router, got great signal strength, and was asked for my password. It then connected immediately.
I then went to settings, and looked for any updates. It found the latest update, so I downloaded and installed OS v3.1. It took about 1 hour to complete the download and installation. My tab works great now. I could not be more pleased with it.
Many thanks to all on this forum and elsewhere who contributed their suggestions and advice.
congrats on solving your issue Jostarr. I'm happy you got it worked out.
FYI: I'm writing a paper for a class of mine that concerns wlans. Something that I would like to include is how often peopel change their wlan passwords. I did a search on the internet for a similar poll but I did not find anything of merit. So, I'm hoping I might get some decent data, enough to mention in my paper.
Very rarely.
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I never change wlan passwords as i have enabled mac filtering, due to that no one could get access through my router.
same here, have wpa2 + aes with a hidden SSID and enabled mac filtering, so no reason really for me to change it
I never change my wifi password as I'm not the one in charge of that but the one who is I know never changes it as he does not know how to change the password used to auto connect the the router and I'm way too lazy to tell him how
Just FYI MAC filtering isn't the most secure. But using a good WPA/WPA2 password is. I probably should change mine but I don't want to. lol
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Just FYI MAC filtering isn't the most secure. But using a good WPA/WPA2 password is. I probably should change mine but I don't want to. lol
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I have router with WPA2 + AES + MAC Filtering enabled and i dont think anybody could crack all this.
jitkr said:
I have router with WPA2 + AES + MAC Filtering enabled and i dont think anybody could crack all this.
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Technically all encryption can be broken. Right now AES encryption is very hard to break but if you have a weak password it is easy.
I have changed my pw once that's it.
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Every time when I buy a new router!
When:
I update my Router software or change the router.
I told it too many people.
But with the current setup I have something that will propably stay a while.
Wpa2 Aes only. SSID is broadcast, Mac Filtering is off, Key is 46 characters full-typable-charset randomness. Only for my devices.
I have a second network for guests which is open. I have put a button on the router that lets me toggle internet access for the guestnet so that people dont torrent the f*ck outta my bandwidth when I'm away or I'm alone.
If I ever get ultra bored enough I will propably try a overblown EAP-TLS setup just for the lulz, who knows maybe it will be profitable setting such up for other people somewhere in the future.
i never change mine, i guess i should start
I cannt change because I lost my modem login pass
Orginal PWD, never change it
Never. I set a new password when buying a new wireless router, but don't change it once it's set. I live in a very rural area so not much risk of someone trying to hack my network anyway.
twice a month for me
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never