I've installed the latest version of SPB Pocket Plus (3.1) "Latest release".
I can say that they have solved all the problems related to slowing the device.... completely compatible with WM5.... speed had improved much.... no more freezes..... you can un-install any of the unused tools in the SPB program and keep only the tools which you really need..... VGA support..... and much more.
i agree, the new version is even better. I usually check all the software I have purchased when I hard reset, just to see if any have been updated. I was real happy to notice both SPB Pocket Plus and SPB Diary had new updated versions. I also grabbed the latest pocket informant beta, all seem to run much better.
Hello Eagle,
The new in SPB diary that it supports being installed in SD card not in the main memory without any problems, and also I like the way it manages the messeges.
I have been looking at spb 3.1 and backup. do they really add value to the exec.
I'm running the backup program on a trial so might see of I can do the same with pocket +.
where do I get the latest update.
I've installed the latest version of SPB Pocket Plus (3.1) "Latest release".
I can say that they have solved all the problems related to slowing the device
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But not for me! I initially stored v3.1 on my SD card. It worked OK fo a while but eventually I had to un-instal and put it in main memory. I have to say that between un-instal and re-instal, my device was very fast. After re-instal it's slow again - complete with start delay of up to 12 seconds. The start delay disappears SOMETIMES if I disable Storage Card Memory icons.
Despite this, I love the software and would still recomend it to anyone.
Rick GM said:
I've installed the latest version of SPB Pocket Plus (3.1) "Latest release".
I can say that they have solved all the problems related to slowing the device
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
But not for me! I initially stored v3.1 on my SD card. It worked OK fo a while but eventually I had to un-instal and put it in main memory. I have to say that between un-instal and re-instal, my device was very fast. After re-instal it's slow again - complete with start delay of up to 12 seconds. The start delay disappears SOMETIMES if I disable Storage Card Memory icons.
Despite this, I love the software and would still recomend it to anyone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
SPB Pocket Plus cannot be installed on storage card, and if installed on storage card it will not work properly....so, you did the right thing by un-installing it and re-installing on main memory.
You also did the right thing by removing the SD card indicator from the today screen as it really slows the device.
In general, it's a very good improvement in the software and its compatability with WM5 if compaired with the previous versions.
I got an XDA Mini S and a 1GB Mini SD card.
I was wondering, im putting on VJPhonetools, Papyrus, Pocketbreeze, Smartkeys, Phoneprofiles along with a shed load of MP3's etc. and want to know which will run quicker :
1. Progs on the phone and MP3's on the card
2. Progs and MP3's on the card.
3. Some progs on the phone and the other progs on the card along with the MP3's?
Ta
P.S, how do i get CAPNOTIFY to run, i have it on my XDA but when i click it nothing happens !!!
1.
Some programs don't run well from memory card - any kind of hack (like smarkskey) should be installed on phone, some other programs can be installed in the card without problems. Since phone storage memory and RAM are not shared in WM5 (like they were in 2003SE) you can get away with installing a lot on the phone. MP3s and such are fine to install on memory card. Might get some problems with jerky video/audio (never experienced this myself) but nothing major.
elyl said:
Since phone storage memory and RAM are not shared in WM5 (like they were in 2003SE) you can get away with installing a lot on the phone.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Didnt know that. Thanks
Hi All,
What would you say was a reasonable amount of free RAM to have with a WM5 Wizard, assuming you'd already installed the standard stuff like smartskey, tomtom, reg hacks, palm messaging etc etc?
Mine's on about 9.5MB free which seems very low, and it's causing GPS Tuner to fail to launch.
I'm debating a hard reset and reinstall and wanted to canvas opinions...
landwomble said:
Hi All,
What would you say was a reasonable amount of free RAM to have with a WM5 Wizard, assuming you'd already installed the standard stuff like smartskey, tomtom, reg hacks, palm messaging etc etc?
Mine's on about 9.5MB free which seems very low, and it's causing GPS Tuner to fail to launch.
I'm debating a hard reset and reinstall and wanted to canvas opinions...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Are you taking about program RAM ( I have about 25M Free) or Device RAM ( I have about 19M Free)? If your taking about device RAM (where you install programs) I would uninstall them and any program that does not have a today plug-in associated with it, I would install it on my mini SD Card, if it does have a today plug-in associated with it, I would install that on the device. Also, you can go into your mail attachments stored on your SD Card as well as your temp internet files. If you are speaking about program memory, well, I would suggest Faria’s WM5 3.3 ROM!
Hi guys,
Recently i have just purchased a brand new I-MATE jamin...i have been using it for over a week and have noticed a few things...
In the instructions manual it makes reference to some additional programs such as "skype" , "smart dialer" and "clearVUE pdf reader"....however when i recieved my phone, it did not come with these applications....any suggestions?
Also i have noticed that the included battery only lasts for MAX of 1 and a half days of normal usage...i dont use WIFI or BLUETOOTH often...just mainly use it as a phone..also the screen brightness is adjusted to the 2nd lowest scale...is the battery use normal ??? Also is it safe to buy one of those after market batteries from ebay as use it as a secondary battery????
Also i have read from various sources that the ROM of the jamin can be upgraded, although i have no idea how to do so..can anyone point me in the right direction? At the moment the specs of my JAMin are:
Rom version: 2.13.9.23 WWE
ROM date: 2/23/06
Radio version: 1_02.20.21
Protocol version: 4.1.13.9
IPL: 2.13.0001
SPL: 2.13.0001
I have no clue as to what the numbers mean except for the ROM...can anyone please tell me what the other numbers such as IPL and SPL mean? Also can anyone suggest any ROMs??
Sorry for so many questions...i am truly a noob with a JAMin...
thanks guys
YOU NEED TO DO A LITTLE MORE READING AND A LITTLE LESS ASKING
just kidding.... welcome to the forum... No n00b bashing from me...
coz then I'd have to bash myself too
1. You can download skype from the skype website - try it if you have friends that use skype.
I haven't bothered as it takes a lot of CPU, and I think it can only use the headset or the speaker on the back of the phone.
You can download clearvue pdf reader, but I prefer adobe reader lite...
smartdial AFAIK is just what happens when you are typing a number to call, and the phone picks out matching contacts before you finish typing.
2. yeah, battery is lame. Go and live next door to a mobile phone transmitter, that will help
Seriously a lot of people get a spare battery, you could try underclocking the phone using "batterystatus", but then you will lose speed.
Make sure you have the power setting to turn off when not used (it still receives calls)
3. yes you can upgrade wm6 is shiny and new but there are bugs reported in pretty much every WM6 ROM so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310452
I'm using TNT professional right now, it's pretty nice.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330289
ipl=initial program loader
spl=secondary program loader
this is the bootloader, this runs before Windows loads up.
Sometimes if there is a problem upgrading you can fix it by writing a new ROM in bootloader mode
from the wiki
(http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Prophet)
[one of the] ways to enter the bootloader on the Prophet:
Hold down the camera button and reset the device. (Boot Loader Mode is: Press Camera + Soft Reset, then release soft reset and keep pressing camera button till appear the Boot Loader.)
This will start the bootloader, and red/green/blue colour bands will be displayed on the device.
Once the colour bands are displayed you can connect to the device via USB.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
triplejay said:
YOU NEED TO DO A LITTLE MORE READING AND A LITTLE LESS ASKING
just kidding.... welcome to the forum... No n00b bashing from me...
coz then I'd have to bash myself too
1. You can download skype from the skype website - try it if you have friends that use skype.
I haven't bothered as it takes a lot of CPU, and I think it can only use the headset or the speaker on the back of the phone.
You can download clearvue pdf reader, but I prefer adobe reader lite...
smartdial AFAIK is just what happens when you are typing a number to call, and the phone picks out matching contacts before you finish typing.
2. yeah, battery is lame. Go and live next door to a mobile phone transmitter, that will help
Seriously a lot of people get a spare battery, you could try underclocking the phone using "batterystatus", but then you will lose speed.
Make sure you have the power setting to turn off when not used (it still receives calls)
3. yes you can upgrade wm6 is shiny and new but there are bugs reported in pretty much every WM6 ROM so far.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310452
I'm using TNT professional right now, it's pretty nice.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330289
ipl=initial program loader
spl=secondary program loader
this is the bootloader, this runs before Windows loads up.
Sometimes if there is a problem upgrading you can fix it by writing a new ROM in bootloader mode
from the wiki
(http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Prophet)
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
THanks for the reply triplejay,
As far as i know, my JAMin doesn't come with smartdialer at all!!! When i dial numbers, it doesnt match any of them before i finish typing!! Could this be due to the version of my ROM??
Also with regards to ROMs, is it better to upgrade to a newer ORIGINAL ROM (ie. a ROM date is made by I-MATE) or should I upgrade to one of the "aftermarket ROMs found on this website?
JAMinGUY said:
As far as i know, my JAMin doesn't come with smartdialer at all!!! When i dial numbers, it doesnt match any of them before i finish typing!! Could this be due to the version of my ROM??
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
could be, not too sure about smartdial to be honest
JAMinGUY said:
Also with regards to ROMs, is it better to upgrade to a newer ORIGINAL ROM (ie. a ROM date is made by I-MATE) or should I upgrade to one of the "aftermarket ROMs found on this website?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
well, if you depend on your phone for work or anything, I'd suggest sticking with an official ROM for now. If you don't mind the odd bug*, then join the "aftermarket" club!
*e.g. bluetooth stereo headsets work with good quality on the newest ROMS, however every time I reset the phone I have to re-pair the headset with it.
Internet works well, good integration of Windows Live, however, sometimes after a reset I have to re-confirm the internet settings for it to work.
Those are the only two I've experienced with this ROM (TNT)
You might want to wait a bit, newer ROMS are coming I think, maybe without these bugs...
I attach an example of my today screen on WM6
Hi triple jay,
Your today screen looks totally different to mine...mine is still the original WM 5.0 screen...just wondering, did you make your today screen look like that by just installing the TNT ROM? Or do you have any other programs installed such as WISBAR..
Also after a week of use, i have noticed the BACK SPEAKER of my JAMin to distort occassionally when playing ringtones (set on the HIGHEST sound level)...is my speaker faulty???
Thanks for your help mate
Hi,
1. The lack of application could be due to lack of customization on your unit and it is just a generic wm5 rom. I would suggest a hard reset (not soft but hard reset) , then press the green send button to erase all the data on your handset. Then wait around 3 seconds after the reboot has finished and customization will commence.
2. The speaker most certainly sounds like it has problems, quite common and it will probably fail. They are cheap to purchase off ebay however installation is quite a bit of work.
Hi, regarding my today screen; no Wisbar, I just have Batterystatus installed, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=270751,
that's the bottom line u can see there
the rest came with the TNT ROM
The bit above batterystatus where it says "sync" is windows live,
then above that is the htc homeplug (part of the ROM) with custom icons (not made by me)!
Reading the forums, I think quite a lot of people have had troubles with the speaker...
but I just checked mine and it seems to distort a bit on the very loudest setting too, at least with MP3s.
Like grimmy said, installation of a new one is quite a bit of work though so prob. not worth it unless it dies completely....
Hi triplejay,
I have decided not to tamper around with my ROM just yet until i am familiar with the various available ROMs.
I have instead decided to install some today screen plugins such as wisbar,spb pocket plus etc etc . Do you have any suggestions of TODAY screen plugins that don't slow my JAMin down? I have heard that SPB slows the JAMin down and also has some program compatibility issues.
Thanks
Before I updated my ROM I used to use SPB mobile shell, and SPB pocket plus.
There's no denying they take up a lot of space on your device though,
Speed wise, any slowdown seemed negligable, but then I had overclocked from day 1 so that prob. helped.
I haven't tried the latest wisbar, but the older versions I did try seemed quite good. Might try the new version out actually.
There are some freeware alternatives;
claunch is an older one
http://home.pacific.net.sg/~welic/claunch.html
https://sourceforge.net/projects/claunch/
rltoday is pretty cool
http://rotlaus-software.de/
lots of good user made skins on their site
http://rotlaus-software.de/forum/viewforum.php?id=5
I listen to a lot of music so the other thing I used to use was a plug-in that showed media player on the today screen,
e.g. the one at the bottom of this post or the newer HTC one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1318018&postcount=14
triplejay said:
Before I updated my ROM I used to use SPB mobile shell, and SPB pocket plus.
There's no denying they take up a lot of space on your device though,
Speed wise, any slowdown seemed negligable, but then I had overclocked from day 1 so that prob. helped.
I haven't tried the latest wisbar, but the older versions I did try seemed quite good. Might try the new version out actually.
There are some freeware alternatives;
claunch is an older one
http://home.pacific.net.sg/~welic/claunch.html
https://sourceforge.net/projects/claunch/
rltoday is pretty cool
http://rotlaus-software.de/
lots of good user made skins on their site
http://rotlaus-software.de/forum/viewforum.php?id=5
I listen to a lot of music so the other thing I used to use was a plug-in that showed media player on the today screen,
e.g. the one at the bottom of this post or the newer HTC one http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1318018&postcount=14
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hi triplejay,
In regards to using SPB mobile shell, and SPB pocket plus, did you install these programs into your JAMin's phone storage memory or on the SD card? I have heard that installing programs into the phone's SD card causes the programs to run slower because the phone needs time to access the programs..and also how did these programs affect your memory?? used up alot of memory ?? Also would I still be able to set my own today backgrounds using these programs or can i only use the themes designed for these programs???
thanks for your help, your posts have been a lot of help to a newbie like myself
JAMinGUY said:
Hi triplejay,
In regards to using SPB mobile shell, and SPB pocket plus, did you install these programs into your JAMin's phone storage memory or on the SD card? I have heard that installing programs into the phone's SD card causes the programs to run slower because the phone needs time to access the programs..and also how did these programs affect your memory?? used up alot of memory ?? Also would I still be able to set my own today backgrounds using these programs or can i only use the themes designed for these programs???
thanks for your help, your posts have been a lot of help to a newbie like myself
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
no problem
I don't think SPB mobile shell gives the option to install to SD card, it's possible with Pocket Plus but not recommended, even by SPB.
I remember reading the following on the SPB site,
and after that always installing stuff that involves the today screen or system to main storage...
We strongly recommend that you not install Spb Pocket Plus to a storage card because storage card drivers can be loaded with up to a 5 second delay after system restart and important files will not be available for loading. One other reason is that Spb Pocket Plus is a system utility and some of its components run in the background. If you remove the storage card Spb Pocket Plus will not be able to load its resources.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
...so the space they take up, is on the device and yes it is a fair amount of memory, maybe a fifth of available memory or something... (not sure)
you should be able to use your own pic for the background with all these I think,
the SPB extended themes for example, will set new system colours etc, with a matching background that you can change as normal.
Hi triplejay,
I have downloaded the trial versions of both SPB pocket plus and mobile shell and will install tonight and let you know how it goes...
Although i still have a couple of questions...
Backup programs such as SKTOOLS or sprite backup...should these be installed into the phone's SD card or the phone's memory ?? Also where should i install games????
Also does anyone know the date of the newest official ROM for the imate JAMin?? I have searched the imate site to no avail...
thanks guys
hey, JAMinGUY,
about the latest imate ROM, I wouldn't know, but looking at this blog post from menneisyys;
http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/in..._finding_identifying_the&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
and then checking ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/
leads me to believe that the newest available is :
ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/JAMin_WWE_213923_2139123_022021_ship.zip
Could be wrong, just seems to make sense...
I would say definitely put games on the SD card, I've got my backup program (SPB backup) installed on SD too...
the only thing that I would be unsure of is SKtools, but it doesn't seem to run at startup, or run in the background,
so i would say it's probably OK to install to card as well.
...Unless if you did something like ran it off the card, then used it to format the card your running it off. That probably wouldn't be good, lol.
hey guys,
i have been using SPB POCKET PLUS AND SPB MOBILE SHELL (both installed in system memory) for a week now and have noticed some things....
the phone seems slower to respond to screen taps...and also when i lock the phone, sometimes i can't unlock it...i need to soft reset it....
triplejay, do u know of any programs similar to SPB POCKET PLUS that dont have these freezing issues???
cheers mate
JAMinGUY said:
hey guys,
triplejay, do u know of any programs similar to SPB POCKET PLUS that dont have these freezing issues???
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
unfortunately not really ...
if u haven't already tried rltoday though, that could be worth a go.
Resco explorer comes with a today plugin, but it's a bit gay, just a few icons, but resco explorer itself is quite good, try the demo if u havent already....
and a couple of threads below this one you will find the htc homeplug (for wm5), personally that homeplug together with batterystatus have filled all my own shortcut related needs....
Hi all, i had resco exploer, resco backup, sk tools, jwmd icon changer, CFC3D- where u guys recommend to install? rest of other application i had install in my card memory... except this few application sw.. Thks
I tend to install important system applications on the phone memory and other apps and games on my memory card.
yes same here stuff like
bsb tweaks
total commander
hd2 tweak
etc i install on the device stuff like
imdb
google maps
google translate
etc go on my sd card
oh, thanks you bros.. cos seem my phome memory running low... trying to fig which application and whr to put.. haiz..
I tend to put stuff that effects the phone ie resco exploer, resco backup, sk tools on the phone, other stuff ie sat nav, entertainment.. on the card
By the way I have a 8gb card and it just about full, so looks like an upgrade to a 16gb soon.
Good luck
madatter said:
I tend to put stuff that effects the phone ie resco exploer, resco backup, sk tools on the phone, other stuff ie sat nav, entertainment.. on the card
By the way I have a 8gb card and it just about full, so looks like an upgrade to a 16gb soon.
Good luck
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It's worth doing I filled my 8gb and now I'm using a 16gb card. I went for a Duracell card after doing some research - they are reliable and have good chips.
System applications on the phone memory and other apps and games on memory card (mine is 16gb since it came with TMOUS)
wow.. stock 16gb? dat nice....