Alarm won't turn off... - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

It was the first time I have set my alarm to wake me up on my 8525. Needless to say I could not get the alarm to turn off. I have tried soft reseting and everything. Now when the phone restarts the red indicator light flashes and even without any alarms checked, the unit continuously plays the alarm over and over again with about a 15 second delay.
Has anyone seen this before? It is driving me insane!
I have the at&t rom and it has worked fine for over a month now..
What could it be?

Its a bug. I had the same issue on a previous AKU 3.x rom.
The only way I got rid of it was reinstalling my Rom...

I had it with a TyTN with factory supplied ROM (AKU 2.x). There was no dismiss soft-button, nor the menu to do anything; reset didn't help either. At the time, I just turned off the sound for notifications and hardresetted the phone in the evening.
Jörg

ironbear said:
It was the first time I have set my alarm to wake me up on my 8525. Needless to say I could not get the alarm to turn off. I have tried soft reseting and everything. Now when the phone restarts the red indicator light flashes and even without any alarms checked, the unit continuously plays the alarm over and over again with about a 15 second delay.
Has anyone seen this before? It is driving me insane!
I have the at&t rom and it has worked fine for over a month now..
What could it be?
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Well, yes there are some known issues with the alarm. It may however not be necessary to go to the lengths of changing the ROM and doing a hard reset.
One of the most common issues is that the alarm notification store becomes cluttered up with duplicates and junk. (And this can happen regardless of whether you use the alarm much or not!!).
The standard way to clear the notifications queue is to use a third party tool and there are several but the best known are:
SKtools (Not Freeware)
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=14288
Memmaid (Not Freeware)
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=14279
Scarybear (Freeware)
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/notificationclearfix.shtml
Use any of these to clear your notifications cue. I personally like sktools as it has a host of other facilities well worth having - but the others are good too.
Mike

Is the behaviour of absent dismiss and menu buttons (the soft buttons) also the result of a messed up notifications queue?
I did have issues once where alarms went of twice at the same time, etc.; but at least I could turn them off when this occured.
Jörg

V J said:
Is the behaviour of absent dismiss and menu buttons (the soft buttons) also the result of a messed up notifications queue?
I did have issues once where alarms went of twice at the same time, etc.; but at least I could turn them off when this occured.
Jörg
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Good question - and I do not know the answer for sure. The first two posters above do not say whether they get the dismiss option at all or whether they get the dismiss option but it just does not cancel the alarm.
That was the reason for my "caution" in replying and saying they "may" not need to change ROM or Hard reset.
Mike

Wow!
I just used scarybear and I had 899 items that were sitting there! That could slow down the old 8525 huh??? That seems like quiite the large oversight on the part of HTC does it not?

ironbear said:
I just used scarybear and I had 899 items that were sitting there! That could slow down the old 8525 huh??? That seems like quiite the large oversight on the part of HTC does it not?
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Wow! indeed.
Question is will it now work correctly?
I wouldn't blame HTC for this one though, it's a M$ problem.
Hope it works, if not it's a hard reset next step. Mine had this problem but ok now after clear out. You may find you've claered out some notifications you do want. That's ok though you can reset them. Also if you ever restore from a backup you may need to re-clear the duplicate notifications.
Mike

mikechannon said:
Well, yes there are some known issues with the alarm. It may however not be necessary to go to the lengths of changing the ROM and doing a hard reset.
One of the most common issues is that the alarm notification store becomes cluttered up with duplicates and junk. (And this can happen regardless of whether you use the alarm much or not!!).
The standard way to clear the notifications queue is to use a third party tool and there are several but the best known are:
SKtools (Not Freeware)
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=14288
Memmaid (Not Freeware)
http://www.pocketgear.com/software_detail.asp?id=14279
Scarybear (Freeware)
http://www.freewareppc.com/utilities/notificationclearfix.shtml
Use any of these to clear your notifications cue. I personally like sktools as it has a host of other facilities well worth having - but the others are good too.
Mike
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Thanks man u made my day
I suggest also free program to delete the Notification que one by one Or choose which to delete
Task Manager v2.7 (DFRunningApps)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=280104
Regards

great thread!
Had the same problem in my Wizard today and solved it thanks to this thread.
I used taskman 2.7 in Faria's WM6 ROM.
regards,

Scary Bear download link no longer works.
Any other free alternatives?
Thanks!

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TWO SIMPLE QUESTIONS ABOUT XDA EXEC PROBLEMS

Since installing the latest O2 ROM upgrade I found two problems:
1. Alarms and timers (chronos, spb time) don't wake up the machine. I need this feature and this a major problem for me, surely must be also an issue for others.
2. I don't want the battery icon on the top bar, I want just the clock.
Does anyone knows a trick to change for the better any of those, please?
Thanks, Gonz
1) u can install 3rd party Alarm Softwares.
2) search the forum, there is a solution
gonzaloblanco1992 said:
2. I don't want the battery icon on the top bar, I want just the clock.
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hdubli said:
2) search the forum, there is a solution
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Really?
Care to post a link? Everything I've read says there is no solution yet.
Look in your startup folder, there is a file that activates the battery icon (I can't rremember what it is called and I don't have it anymore, but I seem to remember it's obvious when you see it).
Delete it (or copy to another safe location) and your battery icon will no longer appear.
OK, it seems my problems are not so simple to solve, after all.
These are the files in my startup folder:
sddaemon, services, theme refresh and voice command.
Could you tell me which one to delete to get rid of the battery icon please?
Uhm…, and what about the problem of timers and alarms failing to wake up the device? Do we have to use the dull Microsoft application?
Thanks
hdubli said:
1) u can install 3rd party Alarm Softwares.
2) search the forum, there is a solution
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hdubli,
I do have lots of third party software for this purpose and they all fail with the exec wm5, something that did not happen on my xda 2i with any of them.
If you please care to be more explicit with the solutions, I am sure several here would appreciate it.
Thanks, gonz
Alarm
For your alarm problem, check out pTravelAlarm
http://www.burroak.on.ca/wm2005.html
You are looking for version 2.6.0, which is for WM5 - their site claims that it's a trial version, but I've found it to be faultless, even after applying latest O2 ROM.
It's not free and I can't promise it'll work for you, but it's worth a shot.
If I can't leave my Exec plugged into mains overnight, I disable the "Turn device off after..." in Power Settings and it hasn't failed to wake me up yet.
Its volume control isn't linked to your device's, and it's loud enough to put the fear of God in you...[/code]
I am having a similar problem. What you guys dont seem to understand, is, even if there was a $1000 3rd party alarm software, it will be of no use when the phone refuses to wake up.
The problem we have is not of the alarm software, but the simple problem of the phone not waking up, e.g. from standby to ON.
Can someone shed some light on this issue.
Thank You
This forum has not resolved the issue of the battery, hunders if not thousands of people are awaiting some miraculous fix for this. the only thing I know to work is using wizbar to reskin the title bar.
in relation to alarms, sorry, i know the wm5 is a problem. though, the inbuilt alarms that i have used on the device do wake the device up.
the other thing you can try is, dont turn it off, dont allow the system to turn it off after a period of time, and just close the device without turning off.
it will drain a little bit more power, i think approximately 15% over the night than what it would otherwise draing, but if it is plugged in, then it wont drain at all and will ensure the device wakes up.
thanks, it is probably rom related since u report that your device does wake up. Can you tell me what rom version u are using? Thanks
simon_darley said:
This forum has not resolved the issue of the battery, hunders if not thousands of people are awaiting some miraculous fix for this. the only thing I know to work is using wizbar to reskin the title bar.
in relation to alarms, sorry, i know the wm5 is a problem. though, the inbuilt alarms that i have used on the device do wake the device up.
the other thing you can try is, dont turn it off, dont allow the system to turn it off after a period of time, and just close the device without turning off.
it will drain a little bit more power, i think approximately 15% over the night than what it would otherwise draing, but if it is plugged in, then it wont drain at all and will ensure the device wakes up.
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Many thanks, I did try not to switch it off and it works!, even the timers!
my rom is in my signature, unlike yours.
what i was saying was it wakes it up from its sleep, but not its off state.
just closing the clam was sufficient to preserve battery, especially given that at night its always charged. even during the day, i rarely turn it off. i just close the device and let it rest....
Why is the "turn off device if not used for" alway
Does anybody know how to prevent the system from ticking this box every time?
My machine does it on its own, yes, it does, sometimes even after changing from landscaping view to normal.
So, the advice of not turning it off to make the alarms work is OK, but needs constant rechecking that the box remains unticked!!
Thanks,
gonzDoes anybody know how to prevent the system from ticking this box every time?
My machine does it on its own, yes, it does, sometimes even after changing from landscaping view to normal.
So, the advice of not turning it off to make the alarms work is OK, but needs constant rechecking that the box remains unchecked!!
Thanks,
gonz
I would look at your other software that may be enforcing this as it has never happened to me, nor have I read about it.
Deke Martin said:
Look in your startup folder, there is a file that activates the battery icon (I can't rremember what it is called and I don't have it anymore, but I seem to remember it's obvious when you see it).
Delete it (or copy to another safe location) and your battery icon will no longer appear.
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If you mean Windows\Startup, I have sddaemon, O2 UI Refresh and poutlook.
I have moved them all out (startup folder is empty) and still no luck.
simon_darley said:
This forum has not resolved the issue of the battery, hunders if not thousands of people are awaiting some miraculous fix for this. the only thing I know to work is using wizbar to reskin the title bar.
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That's what I thought.
Mr.Clark said:
Delete it (or copy to another safe location) and your battery icon will no longer appear.
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My suggestion unrelated to your problem is to keep "sddaemon.lnk" out of the "start up" folder. If you haven't noticed yet, if you keep sddaemon on the start up folder, after performing a soft reset this file is duplicated under "Notifications" taking up your precious memory and slowing down your machine. You can check it if you have a program that cleans your Notification Que such as "Scary Bear's Check Notification" (freeware).
For the alarm one, does anyone tried using PocketWakeup? The original one is in French, but there is an English version too. Google for it and see if it works on the universal.
simon_darley said:
I would look at your other software that may be enforcing this as it has never happened to me, nor have I read about it.
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Can't think of anything in my PDA that will have that need or ability, it is not an option I've noticed in any program before, but thanks anyway. I'll search around, there must be a solution somewhere :wink:
gonzaloblanco1992
you could try reflashing your rom as you are on the older version.
simon_darley said:
gonzaloblanco1992
you could try reflashing your rom as you are on the older version.
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I got the latest, just haven't updated my profile. I found it! It was Phone Alarm, changed to PocketZen and everything is finally OK :wink:

Alarm is not set, yet still goes off!!!

I have a problem. The alarm time is not set, yet every morning at 9:45am, my alarm goes off. In the alarm program, no days are selected, and none of the 3 alarms are turned on. Why is this MDA beeping like crazy every morning at 9:45??? I've tried soft resetting, but for the past 3 days, it still goes off
djswivel said:
I have a problem. The alarm time is not set, yet every morning at 9:45am, my alarm goes off. In the alarm program, no days are selected, and none of the 3 alarms are turned on. Why is this MDA beeping like crazy every morning at 9:45??? I've tried soft resetting, but for the past 3 days, it still goes off
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It had the same problem, I once set the alarm at a certain time, disabled the alarm but it kept going off each day. I was unable to find the cause of this.
It did not searched futher because I was intending to change firmware at that time, of course It was gone atfter that.
What kind of software are you using, maybe we had similar stuff running.
djswivel said:
I have a problem. The alarm time is not set, yet every morning at 9:45am, my alarm goes off. In the alarm program, no days are selected, and none of the 3 alarms are turned on. Why is this MDA beeping like crazy every morning at 9:45??? I've tried soft resetting, but for the past 3 days, it still goes off
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you probably have some undeleted notification duplicate in Wizard's system and all you need is CheckNotifications:
http://www.scarybearsoftware.com/checknotifications.zip
run it on Wizard and look for entry which might look like your 9:45am alarm and delete it. should work.
I don't have much software installed. Just SPB Pocket Plus, XDA RegWizard, OpenNETCF, and Flash Player. It's pretty much stock other than a few skins.
EVA_D, again I run into problems. I'm a mac user, and we only use macs at the recording studio, so I can't install the .exe file. Can you possible install it on your computer, and then post a .cab file for me??
Ahh this is a nightmare....Luckily the past few days I've had to get up early, but usually I work til 2am, 4am, sometimes even 6am (At a recording studio), so a lot of times I don't fall asleep until 8am, and if I get woken up at 9:45 because of this, I will probably crush the phone in the palm of my exhausted hand...
anyone??
Here is the check notifications exe taken from my device - just run it on your device should work.
If that does not work i will post memaid to you from my device.
If nothing works then its hard reset time - then use a different alarm, see here http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43692
That doesn't work. I emailed the exe to my phone, but it wont install. I need the cab file. Can you post the cab that is extracted from the exe?
Strange works on my device without a cab install.The exe is a standalone exe not an install exe. Sorry dont have cab for it
Ahh, I didn't realize it was an actual app, and not an install file. It's loaded up, and I have 472 events, which the app says is very high. So how does this work?? Am I supposed to clear ALL events??
Does the MDA store ALL the event information from the day it was turned on? It seems so because 472 seems to be a lot. Is this a bug on the MDA that may cause it to run slow? What (if any) are the effects of clearing ALL events? Will this basically be a reset pf the phone and require me to set up my mail, proxy, and other information again, or does it just deal with notifications and whatnot?
djswivel said:
Ahh, I didn't realize it was an actual app, and not an install file. It's loaded up, and I have 472 events, which the app says is very high. So how does this work?? Am I supposed to clear ALL events??
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NO! not ALL! get into Options -> settings, check both boxes -> OK. then tap 'Clear' button on top of main screen. number of notification should reduce significantly (in my case it's about 15-20 after clearing). some notifications are essential for running system and should never be deleted.
Wow, 472? I think I have 13. You definitely need to do some spring cleaning there.
if i delete them ALL what is the end result?
djswivel said:
if i delete them ALL what is the end result?
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i don't know but if you'll try, post back the results.
eva_d said:
djswivel said:
if i delete them ALL what is the end result?
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i don't know but if you'll try, post back the results.
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im not quite sure i have the balls for that yet lol
If you check both boxes and then delete it wont delete your important notifications just the duplicates etc....
eva_d said:
djswivel said:
I have a problem. The alarm time is not set, yet every morning at 9:45am, my alarm goes off. In the alarm program, no days are selected, and none of the 3 alarms are turned on. Why is this MDA beeping like crazy every morning at 9:45??? I've tried soft resetting, but for the past 3 days, it still goes off
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you probably have some undeleted notification duplicate in Wizard's system and all you need is CheckNotifications:
http://www.scarybearsoftware.com/checknotifications.zip
run it on Wizard and look for entry which might look like your 9:45am alarm and delete it. should work.
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i have the same problem but i cant find any alarm times - help!
Hi,
the same problem with my mini s, but new info. I remember that I have set a notification at 1:00PM someday last week, and it was good. after that, It keeps notifying everyday at 1:00PM and I cant find any entries in the notifications or tasks.
I used the program posted above, but it did not show any alarms set at 1:00PM.
Stupid wizards,
Any help?
taking the duplicates off certainly worked as no alarm this morning YAY thanks guys x
taking the duplicates off certainly worked as no alarm this morning YAY thanks guys x
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mee 2, was waiting for the alarm at 1:00PM, but id did not fire today. Happy alarms!

Spurious Reminder noises on soft reset

Hi Guys,
I'm having a love-hate relationship with my 3-week-old HTC Hermes.
Everything's OK except that I get a flurry of spurious reminders/vibrates over a 5 minute period when I soft reset the device (which I have been doing a lot while testing software).
I know that, historically, alarms and reminders on 'Pocket PC' devices have been a bit dodgy but this takes the biscuit! I have tried clearing dupes using the Scarybear utilities but this has not made a difference.
When the phone vibrates/pings, there's no pop-ups/messages to clear so it's not possible to tell what has invoked the reminder.
Apart from a hard reset, any ideas?
Thanks
linker3000
Did you ever get an answer to this one? - I'm having the same problem.
J
Me too! I had to do a hard reset!!!
I have this too. Sometimes checking for dupes with Memmaid helps. What's strange is that if you leave it for 10 mins it magically stops...
I always get it, and it always stops after about 10minutes. it started after i was trying to get the worthless alarm clock to work. I installed SBD Alarm (or whatever its called) and then realised that didnt work, so i removed it. never been right since.
SK Tools solved my problem:
http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html
Good luck.
J
Alarms..
Someone has already mentioned memmaid, but only for checking for duplicates.
You can actually look at the notification queue and see if there are any notifications that are for programs that you have uninstalled.
Don't just delete all the notifications - or anything like that.. as it can stop things working.
Charlie Grillo
JustinFe said:
SK Tools solved my problem:
http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html
Good luck.
J
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what did you do? to solve it? install it (obviously), then what?
I ran the reg clean up and it disappeared after that.

No Alarm Notification

No longer getting Alarm notifications but Alarm vibrates/plays sound etc. and alarm is impossible to turn off - which gets very embarassing sometimes!
I am running Mortsaver - anyone else have this problem and, even better, a fix?
uninstalled Mortsaver - but still same prob. alarm continues even after a soft reset
I have the same Problem. Can someone help?
thx
warmkiwi99 said:
No longer getting Alarm notifications but Alarm vibrates/plays sound etc. and alarm is impossible to turn off - which gets very embarassing sometimes!
I am running Mortsaver - anyone else have this problem and, even better, a fix?
uninstalled Mortsaver - but still same prob. alarm continues even after a soft reset
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Came across this the other day - might be of some help?
http://pocketpcthoughts.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=420291&sid=9b3616d482786b00da3747a4fc84dbcd
Mike
Thnaks - I tried the battery thing but it didn't work for me. I finally fixed it by clearing duplicates in the Notification queue using Pocket Mechanic (trial download)
warmkiwi99 said:
Thnaks - I tried the battery thing but it didn't work for me. I finally fixed it by clearing duplicates in the Notification queue using Pocket Mechanic (trial download)
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Now that's useful to know. But just a note of caution, I'm sure I've seen posts where people using pocket mechanic got into a lot of bother - I could be wrong though.
Mike

Reminder sound but nothing in appointments/tasks???

This has happened twice now, the first time I did a hard reset, I don't want to have to o that again to fix this.
Has anyone else had this problem? Is there an easy fix?
Do you have some app for reminders?
Same problem here, after using the alarm once, it now goes off at 6.55am whether it's set or not.
I remember having the same problem with the Universal when I first got it, I'm trying to remember the solution.... something to do with clearing the notification queue.
I'll update this when I find the relevant info.
Ok, I think i have solved it, although I won't know for sure until 6.55am tomorrow!
I installed Memmaid, which showed me a list of all the items in the notification queue.
I then deleted all the clock.exe notifications (there were 6) which related to 6.55am - memmaid shows a little info on each notification as you highlight them.
Hopefully this should work - be careful though as deleting the wrong things can apparently break activesync, requiring a hard reset.
Pantaloonie said:
Ok, I think i have solved it, although I won't know for sure until 6.55am tomorrow!
I installed Memmaid, which showed me a list of all the items in the notification queue.
I then deleted all the clock.exe notifications (there were 6) which related to 6.55am - memmaid shows a little info on each notification as you highlight them.
Hopefully this should work - be careful though as deleting the wrong things can apparently break activesync, requiring a hard reset.
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Thanks Pantaloonie.
I don't know what to delete. I don't know what the reminder is for (I don't see any text when I hear the sound).
I think it's only happening when connected to Activsync by USB.
I'll monitor it for the rest of today.
Yes, this only happens when connected to AS. I'm using the 4.5 Beta (at work). It seems OK with the 4.5 relase version at home.
Guess I'll have to upgrade AS at work.

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