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how easy is it to install tomtom 6 on a O2 EXEC and get it working with a bluetooth gps reciver?
Are there any/many cracked coppies of this floating arround?
Cheers
Oblique

oblique said:
how easy is it to install tomtom 6 on a O2 EXEC and get it working with a bluetooth gps reciver?
Are there any/many cracked coppies of this floating arround?
Cheers
Oblique
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Here's an idea: try not stealing.

i don't nomaly steal but as i don't know how stable tomtom works on my phone or how stable bluetooth gps works on my phone i am reluctant to spend 80quid to find out.

works very well, you have to config your exec to get TOMTOM to work with bluetooth gps( you can find that on here somewhere).

It works fine, but slower than on a QVGA screen device.
I have used v5 and v6 on AKU 2, 3, and now Crossbow ROMs, it works fine on the Universal, so you can buy it without worrying.

jowett69 said:
works very well, you have to config your exec to get TOMTOM to work with bluetooth gps( you can find that on here somewhere).
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You don't actually have to config anything if you have the TomTom GPS, it turns on BT itself, and finds it.
If you have a non TomTom BT GPS, simply pair it, and select an outgoing COM port, then when you fire up TomTom, tell it that it's a BT GPS on whatever port you chose.
All very easy.

cool, that is the kind of information that i was looking for, does anyone here use the live trafic update service? does it work well and divert you automaticly and how much does it cost to subscribe?
cheers

If I can remember, you and get 1 free month to try. Traffic is not always update!!!!!

It's good if there's a large incident, but in my experience you usually get stuck in things before they hit your device, and you see the road signs on motorways and things warning you anyway.
I stopped the subscripton, and just reroute myself if I see warnings, or hear something on the radio.

I am using TomTom 6 on my Exec now.
Previously used Navigon MN|5 which required *LOTS* of memory, so TomTom was a nice refreshment with its 7-9 MB memory trace.
Had problems setting up Bluetooth receiver. It wasn't showing up in the port list when I selected Bluetooth one. What I did was: added an incoming serial port, run TomTom and set port to this one (did not work yet!) then closed it and removed the port; after that TomTom just worked straight away At this point, an attempt to change port led to inability to get out of port selection, and you're buggered again. I'm sure that's some glitch, but I solved it anyway. May be there's a neater way of doing this.
But the software itself was good and stable, does what's on the tin, copy a directory to your card and you get Full Postcode navigation (very useful when finding businesses and not residential homes), and POI Warning function is built in now -- a *major* plus, never really got time to make POIWarner work properly. Tunnel mode -- progressive marker movement when lost GPS signal in a tunnel -- and that won my heart.
I do understand people's need to try BEFORE you buy, not after your money is tied up with some dud product and you get no refund. Go Trial, go.
Well in this case I'm pleased with TomTom 6 and its services. You can easily get a camera database each month from the Net and probably can live without Traffic service, but for me £33 a year doesn't seem too big a dent in my wallet - compared to £170-200 TMC receivers currently available on the market.

AlanJC said:
It works fine, but slower than on a QVGA screen device.
I have used v5 and v6 on AKU 2, 3, and now Crossbow ROMs, it works fine on the Universal, so you can buy it without worrying.
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AlanJC: Have you tried TT6 under WM6 and did all work well? Also, was TT6 happy after you upgraded the ROM - did you have any problems with TT6 thinking the Device Code had changed, thereby needing to re-register the software?

How To get GPS working

can anybody tell me how & what is the step to get the GPS works ?
thanks..

Put some GPS software on your Ameo and point it to COM4.

what are some of the best gps software for ameo?
I would think google maps with the ability to real time track your location would be great. Anyone try that?

Tomtom Navigator 6.
Coz it's free.
Edit - I in no way condone the use of pirated software, and I'll no doubt burn in hell for my sins....

Dopod U1000
Hey!
I have an Dopod U1000, which is the Advantage/X7500/Athena but on the Asian market.
THe first and biggest problem I have is that the GPS is not working. I cannot get a GPS-fix, but I have contact with the actual GPS-unit.
It doesnt matter where I am or for how long I wait - I have never got a fix and once every now and then I get 1 or 2 satellites with very bad connection - but never a fix.
I talked to HTC about this and they didnt know anything about it.
I then, when I asked around, got a weird answer from a company here in Sweden. They guessed that since U1000 is for the Asian market they may somehow have "preprogrammed GPS" information, so that they use Asian satellites. Sounds very strange to me - as far as I know they are not geo-stationary so the satellites goes around and thus there are not specific Asian satellites.
Anyways, anyone know about this issue? Suggestions?
Thx!
Regards
Ted

wagger said:
Hey!
I have an Dopod U1000, which is the Advantage/X7500/Athena but on the Asian market.
THe first and biggest problem I have is that the GPS is not working. I cannot get a GPS-fix, but I have contact with the actual GPS-unit.
It doesnt matter where I am or for how long I wait - I have never got a fix and once every now and then I get 1 or 2 satellites with very bad connection - but never a fix.
I talked to HTC about this and they didnt know anything about it.
I then, when I asked around, got a weird answer from a company here in Sweden. They guessed that since U1000 is for the Asian market they may somehow have "preprogrammed GPS" information, so that they use Asian satellites. Sounds very strange to me - as far as I know they are not geo-stationary so the satellites goes around and thus there are not specific Asian satellites.
Anyways, anyone know about this issue? Suggestions?
Thx!
Regards
Ted
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i got my DOPOD U1000 from Taiwan, and GPS works great. you need to set the post to COM4, signal is much better then the BT device i got before. It doesn't matter where you buy your device

wagger said:
Hey!
I have an Dopod U1000, which is the Advantage/X7500/Athena but on the Asian market.
THe first and biggest problem I have is that the GPS is not working. I cannot get a GPS-fix, but I have contact with the actual GPS-unit.
It doesnt matter where I am or for how long I wait - I have never got a fix and once every now and then I get 1 or 2 satellites with very bad connection - but never a fix.
I talked to HTC about this and they didnt know anything about it.
I then, when I asked around, got a weird answer from a company here in Sweden. They guessed that since U1000 is for the Asian market they may somehow have "preprogrammed GPS" information, so that they use Asian satellites. Sounds very strange to me - as far as I know they are not geo-stationary so the satellites goes around and thus there are not specific Asian satellites.
Anyways, anyone know about this issue? Suggestions?
Thx!
Regards
Ted
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the Global Positioning System is global, and should work anywhere on the globe !! apart from in war zones (and near US military bases) where the signal is sometimes deliberately degraded so enemies cant use satellite guided missiles.

wu5262 said:
i got my DOPOD U1000 from Taiwan, and GPS works great. you need to set the post to COM4, signal is much better then the BT device i got before. It doesn't matter where you buy your device
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should i install any third party software beforehand?

Help
My Device can find the GPS on com 4 but it will not work with Google maps or pocket streets can any one help?
Thanks
Ian

I've got Tom Tom Navigator 5 working (using COM 5), but I've also not managed to get Google Maps working.

GPS is not working with GM
edintao said:
My Device can find the GPS on com 4 but it will not work with Google maps or pocket streets can any one help?
Thanks
Ian
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This is also a big problem in Germany - it's not possible to get it working with Google Maps. We tried everything (also to disable the GPS-Splitter and use Com5 which helps with some programs, but not with Google Maps).
So we gave up for the moment waiting for an update (maybe Athena, maybe Google).
Teja

alanplum said:
Put some GPS software on your Ameo and point it to COM4.
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Got mine working in TT6 by doing:
Other NMEA GPS Receiver
GPS Baud Rate: 4800
Com4
Is this what everyone else is doing ?
is the Baud rate correct?
Its quite chuggy/slow compared to tt6 on universal. i.e. 2-3fps as opposed to almost smooth on universal
Also, is it possible to change that tomtom icon thats on the today screen ? its so ugly and blocky - really detracts from the otherwise lovely Ameo screen

Mine is working great. By the way, i'm using MapKing10. When setting the port just select auto and the software should be able to detect the port in use. My unit can lock on into the satellite signal in less then 5s, thats impressive.

Hi
Does anyone know where to get a copy of the aforementioned TT6 for free? I had just bought TT navigator 6 with GB + Western Europe for my Mio A701 about 3 months ago but was gutted to find I couldnt transfer the licence to my new Ameo so i sold the boxed product with the Mio.
Anyone know where I can get one (strictly for "backup" purposes of course).
Cheers

Very easily found on torrent sites.
I won't give a link here as I assume that would be frowned on by the management....

ok, will have a look. not that familiar with all this torrent stuff!
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GPS Port
I looked in the registry and I found that com 5 is the official port. Strange enough com 4 and 5 work.

Getting GPS working
I purchased an A701 last week and had one hell of a time tring to get TT6 to work, even though MM worked fine. It appears that some software originally designed for ealier MS does not like Com4. I loaded a program called VisualGPSse, a freedownload, and set that to com 4 and bingo TT6 spang into life. Before using TT now I lauch that small app and it works fine. I,ll try and find the link if Google doen't find it for you.
ps. Does anyone know of an app that will allow me to use hands free, my Mio Rom R65 seems duff in this area.

getting GPS to work
I've installed my vehicle navigation software (copilot live v5) without any problem twice.
But when I tried to instal another GPS-based application called MobileGolfScorer, the system was simply unable to sense any satellite signal. Not only that, the system became extremely slow to the point of freezing up and not responding.
Then, I read about the post that says com5 is the default, so I said to myself may be I should use com5 instead of 4 in my start>setting>GPS.
After changing to com5, my MobileGolfScorer was able to recognise signal although the signal was extremely weak. Also, it was no longer freezing up. I thought that may be I've at least solved the problem and the weak signal may be due to the fact that I was not directly under the open sky.
The new problem is that after changing to com5, my copilot stopped working! When trying to reset GPS within copilot, it just said that I either did not have the GPS connected, or I was having the wrong com selection and/or baud rate. I tried all possible combinations of com and baud rate (including letting it find automatically) but unfortunately the results were the same.
Then I thought to myself may be copilot can only use com4. Since vehicle navigation is a more important application to me, I may have to sacrifice MobileGolfScorer until the problem is resolved. So I went to start>setting>GPS and reverted to com 4.
I then tried to get copilot to work but now it would not. MGS also would not work. So now I have two GPS applications that are not able to sense any signal. I can see the gsm led orange light(GPS) and green light(phone) alternating, which means that the GPS is supposed to be working, althoug the orange light disappears by itself after a while. The thing is, with or without the orange light, the software were not able to sense any GPS signal.
What do all these suggest? Any idea???
Chapter 2 to my story:
Since I'm also experiencing MD lost cluster problems, I had wonder if it could be that some system files used by the copilot program is corruptted. So I decided to hard-reset the unit and reinstall everything from scratch again. The first thing that I did after hard resett was to instal MobileGolfScorer. It did not work when I used com4 and baud rate 4800. Could not detect any GPS signal although the orange light was blinking. Then I installed Copilot live Pocket PC v5. This software has no problem detecting the signal right away. In my mind, it seems to suggest that the reason for copilot to have stopped working could be due to file corruption, while MobileGolfScorer still for some reason could not detect it. What I also failed to understnad is why for a very brief period it did detect very week signal (see chapter 1 above).
My fear: Once I was so confident that com4 and baud rate 4800 solves all problems. Now I'm less sure what is going on. If you're lucky, it works; if you not lucky it does'nt seems to work. You could be doing exactly the same thing entering the same setting but you could get different results. Is it due to file corruption? Why does it get corrupted so easily?
Let's hope some smarter mind could figure this out for us.

Its all about the sucky comport management in windows.
If one app is accessing a com port, no others can.
If windows GPS management is accessing the GPS on com5, then you shouldnt connect to com5 yourself. The whole point of the windows management is that the software port (often port4) it creates is meant to be able to be read by multiple programs.
However, most programs dont seem to like the software port. Eg, googlemaps.
I just turned off the MS GPS management and only use apps that directly attatch to com5, and only one app at a time.

Google Maps

Any success anyone in using the built-in GPS with Google maps? No problem with TomTom, Copilot or Pocket streets, but the darn google maps (that obviously has the best maps), won't use the GPS. I set the Hardware port to COM4 and tried every speed possible (the others seems to work fine at 115200). Any tips anyone?

lbarouf said:
Any success anyone in using the built-in GPS with Google maps? No problem with TomTom, Copilot or Pocket streets, but the darn google maps (that obviously has the best maps), won't use the GPS. I set the Hardware port to COM4 and tried every speed possible (the others seems to work fine at 115200). Any tips anyone?
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Nope. I've searched everywhere and there was one hack but I never tried it. I just downloaded Microsoft's Live Search, which is free, and this works perfectly and is just like Google Maps....and arguably better. Easily configured to your built in GPS and you're on the way. Hope this helps.

I have to agree Microsoft's Live Search is great !!!
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Nope. I've searched everywhere and there was one hack but I never tried it. I just downloaded Microsoft's Live Search, which is free, and this works perfectly and is just like Google Maps....and arguably better. Easily configured to your built in GPS and you're on the way. Hope this helps.
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After trying to get Google Maps to work for a while with obviously no success, I ran across this post (thank you!!!). I just installed it from (http://mobile.search.live.com/about/default.aspx) and it works incredibly well.
FYI, these are the settings I have that work (after reading the GPS posts) for the GPS Settings tabs:
• GPS program port - (None)
• GPS hardware port - COM5 with 9600 baud rate
• Access - Manage GPS automatically is CHECKED
This really is going to make me wonder how Navigation companies like TomTom are going to survive in the future. Why will people pay for something when they have the wireless internet and programs like Live Search for free. Anyways, the GPS worked perfect and even get's a signal inside my office, which was impossible with my bluetooth GPS I have.

Yep, Windows live! is the way forward until GoogleEarth Mobile gives you an option to tell you where the GPS is, rather than trying to auto find it, and doing it rather badly. Especially when Live!, TT and Reperion have no difficulty locating the signal via the GPS applet. But then you can point them at the comport, unlike Gearth.
As for these systems replacing personal nav systems, I still use TT for my navigating to places I need to get to. I find its features far easier to use than Windows Live! and also TT doesn't fail when I'm outside a 3G or GPRS connection! But perhaps in 5 years time, server based navigation will be the future - its just to immature at the moment though.

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After trying to get Google Maps to work for a while with obviously no success, I ran across this post (thank you!!!). I just installed it from (http://mobile.search.live.com/about/default.aspx) and it works incredibly well.
FYI, these are the settings I have that work (after reading the GPS posts) for the GPS Settings tabs:
? GPS program port - (None)
? GPS hardware port - COM5 with 9600 baud rate
? Access - Manage GPS automatically is CHECKED
This really is going to make me wonder how Navigation companies like TomTom are going to survive in the future. Why will people pay for something when they have the wireless internet and programs like Live Search for free. Anyways, the GPS worked perfect and even get's a signal inside my office, which was impossible with my bluetooth GPS I have.
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Glad it worked for you. Live will work well with most configurtions, thank goodness. Not sure what the fellas as Google were smoking when they developed an app that uses GPS and left the manual config option out. Especially with a new and not throughly tested app. I hate to admit it but Microsoft saved the day on this one.

Have a look how it responds with Fransons GPS Gate installed or the other free to use GPS Port splitter software, I have no way of testing this at the moment as no "real" PC connection to use, Franson sorted out a similar issue with certain software problems on the P3300 and sound similar - Mike

Garmin XT versus TomTom - Why is Garmin Slow to track location?

Hi all, I am currently testing Garmin XT and I noticed that there seems to be a bit of a lag in the GPS when you are driving around. I have TomTom currently which is flawless. Is there perhaps some setting I missed with Garmin or is this just the way it is???

cloves said:
Hi all, I am currently testing Garmin XT and I noticed that there seems to be a bit of a lag in the GPS when you are driving around. I have TomTom currently which is flawless. Is there perhaps some setting I missed with Garmin or is this just the way it is???
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I believe this has to do with the nature of the software drivers and the way they interact with the hardware of the phone. It is something that may be different from phone to phone.

Ahhh darn thats a shame I am running a mogul. What I like about Garmin is the fact that it has gas prices and traffic for free unlike TomTom. Anyone else experiencing the same issue?

seems to work fine for me, but I use it with the bluecharts maps and not any street maps.

Hmm well I just wanted to post a follow up not sure if this will help since I haven't tried on the streets yet. I went into the settings and by default Garmin had selected "Use GPD Intermediate Driver" which worked for me but again I saw a lag while driving around and frequent redrawing of where I was relative to the map.
So now I just went back to the settings and hit "disable" which then brought up a list "Use Bluetooth GPS" "Use GPD Intermediate Driver" and "Use Serial GPS". I then selected "Use Serial GPS" and selected COM4:COM4. I had to do this a couple of times the software would scan but not let me keep COM4 but after a few tries it found COM4. I don't know if this will make everything faster but I will keep everyone posted.

Well even after the changes I made seems garmin is just slow tracking and when you are driving that can really suck.

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Well even after the changes I made seems garmin is just slow tracking and when you are driving that can really suck.
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How slow is slow? I use Garmin now, and used to use Tomtom, and while it might seem that the arrow doesn't move quite as often, it still seems to be doing what it's supposed to. Is the screen not updating as often?

I have both on my Mogul -- I just updated the Garmin with the 2008 maps and tested it the other day on a 2 hour trip - it was dead on but I did use a blue tooth GPS antenna Holux 240Slim instead of the built in GPS -- I find the built in is dependent on a data connection which I will lose when I go out of area.
I noticed the Garmin was within a few feet of being dead on -- see an exit and there it was on the map - including the talking parts when I was told to exit right, etc
Mule

I've used both and I have found that XT is slightly slower in its frame rate then TOMTOM. However, I have been a long time GPS user and LOVE the fact that I can now load all of my topograhical and marine maps to my P4000! The detail and accuracy of XT makes TOMTOM maps look like something off Dora the explorer. TOMTOM didn't even have roads drawn in for my home town. It was just a peininsula into water. On XT you even see the ATV paths that follow the coast! With the topo maps you can pick a lake, hike to it and fish your brains out! XT takes it off road. Tomtom is of no use in that department. Its a hikers dream: music, communications, nav, camera and more in one small device. To bad the P4000 isn't waterproof. My Garmin Rino must be feeling left out....

you might want to check which driver you are using... I'm on 42020... I know I had problems with 42030 (resetting my clock and what not) and heard 42040 had issues to.. just a thought...

i believe all gps lag one second behind real time. tomtom is the only software that predict 1/2 and 1 second ahead.
btw, does anybody know how to limit garmin xt auto zoom? sometime it zoom out way too much.

you can turn off auto zoom but you can't "control" it.. the default is to zoom out to show next turn... I just keep it turned off...

GPS accuracy

I've got problems with the GPS on my Polaris and I'm wondering if anyone else has the same issue: the accuracy is abt 5-15m off and it updates less than 1frame/sec regardless of the gps software I use (tomtom, google maps or garmin xt) My Radio version is 1.64.08.21 Murata and the rom pdaviet v16
Can anyone point me towards a solution for this please? Thanks!

To my knowledge gps is off target for a reason. All comercial versions are innacurate either in time or position so you cannot use it for war or something like it. If the 5 to 15 meter difference is to much I do not know.

pereirald said:
To my knowledge gps is off target for a reason. All comercial versions are innacurate either in time or position so you cannot use it for war or something like it. If the 5 to 15 meter difference is to much I do not know.
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Thanks for your answer pereirald, I knew that commercial GPSs are off so they can't be used for military purposes but the GPS on my Polaris is annoyingly slow. If I compare Garmin mobile XT runnin on my polaris with a friend's Garmin nuvi 760, his is smoother, updates faster and slightly more accurate...so any1 knows whats going on here? Is it only me with this issue or it happens on all HTC phones with Qualcomm chips?

I am on the latest udK rom using radio 1.64.08.21
I can GPS sync inside buildings
Syncs VERY fast
I also find it very accurate and def not 15meters off

Actually I also use Garmin XT and most of the time I can even pinpoint me using "Where am I?" but sometimes it does not give the right door but the neighbours. So I guess there is an up to 5 meter innacuracy. Being slower one should expect: The the chip isnot dedicated is it? It does other stuff while we are trying to use GPS. So you could try to things:
1) Minimal services running and disconnect phone (Airplane mode)
2) I don't know but that is a possibility that you will get different results with different rom. (I think I do, altough I haven't measured it).
Hope it helps

atl4ntys said:
I've got problems with the GPS on my Polaris and I'm wondering if anyone else has the same issue: the accuracy is abt 5-15m off and it updates less than 1frame/sec regardless of the gps software I use (tomtom, google maps or garmin xt) My Radio version is 1.64.08.21 Murata and the rom pdaviet v16
Can anyone point me towards a solution for this please? Thanks!
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The accuracy depends on the number of satelites as well.
I noticed that the GPS chip of the TC is more nervous then a SirfIII chip like the one I had in my MIO A201.
But both the MIO A201 and the TC didn't show a better accuracy then around 10M.

Thanks for your replies guys, I did some testing over the last 2 days and after taking a trip in the middle of the country with the GPS on, I was surprised to see that it fixed itself At home is not showing me 5 doors down the road and in someone's garden anymore and when I walk/run with it, it pinpoints my location within 5m. The smoothness is still not there even if I turn off the music player and any other progs that I had running in the background, but I know thats because of the lack of proper graphic drivers
So in conclusion the accuracy is down to these 3 things:
1.radio flash not os-rom update.
2.number of satellites it connects to.
3.apparently driving around a bit
Cheers!

In case you use google earth, its the program which doesnt update quickly enough. The receiver does...
The receiver has a very irritating 'feature' built in which is very annoying when trying to use your GPS unit while walking: to make car navigation less jerky and stop you from jumping from road to road, the receiver doesnt update the position anymore after you came to a stop (or move slowly, eg: by foot ). It updates again after you covered several meters of ground and keep moving. This might be useful in your car where you can move fast and steadily, it's very very annoying if you try to find something by foot. The 'feature' is hardware-based, by now no one managed to turn it off.
Edit: uuhm... yes, of course the Radio. The Operating System part of the ROM only houses programs and such, the hardware-near stuff like phone functions, bluetooth and wifi and most important the GPS stuff gets updates through the Radio-ROM. I figured this is a widely known fact...