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PPC 2003 and mkrom

Any brave soul try using mkrom in conjucntion with the 2003 ROM? I think I might give it a shot here in a bit but wanted to know if anybody had tried it yet...

I've managed to build a 2003 ROM. It's extremely tricky though. I'm working on customizing a ROM similar to the XDA Developers SER - as soon as I get some free time
I'd like to acknowledge all the help given to me by Developer Itsme in this endeavor.
Let me know any suggestions you may have for the new ROM.

sheran_g,
i didn't know u could use mkrom with 2003 rom image. can u please post how u did it? i created a special version based on SE 1.1 rom but would like to put the same programs into the new rom. any help is appreciated.
thanks
alex

sheran_g said:
I've managed to build a 2003 ROM. It's extremely tricky though. I'm working on customizing a ROM similar to the XDA Developers SER - as soon as I get some free time
I'd like to acknowledge all the help given to me by Developer Itsme in this endeavor.
Let me know any suggestions you may have for the new ROM.
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What's tricky about it...?

The modified registry file you make does not get picked up at the device startup. You need to manually inject the memory address of the modified registry file into the ROM in order for it to get picked up.

my latest romtools can be found at romtools
now it calls dumprom to find and fix the filedata offsets.
I think they should now build 2003 roms.

sheran_g,
can u post the steps that u take to buid it? i'm trying right now and its not working. i'm having little problems. can u post ur default.reg and initobj.txt? any other help is apreciated.
thanks
alex

Ok. Here they are in a nutshell:
Get the latest romtools.
Make the following dirs: romfiles, cfg, tmp, out, files, files1, files2
Split the ROM into Bootloader, bootimage, OS image, xipchain into the 'cfg' dir.
Dump the files in the OS image into a 'romfiles' dir.
Get the default registry file, initobj & initdb files into your 'cfg' dir.
Make changes to your default.reg and initobj.txt
Place any files you want loaded in the ROM into the 'files' dir.
Run 'mkrom.sh'
You should then have your new ROM. I'm sorry if it's extremely brief; you'll have to make do with this and the README file in the romtools archive file for now. You'll find my default.reg and initobj.txt files on my site: www.zensay.com/qtek/mkrom

sheran_g,
Have you created a decent working custom WM2003 ROM?
If so what Apps have you added?
How much ROM space does it use?

I've not added any apps to my ROM. I have only added a carrier logo file and made some changes to the registry. So I cannot comment on ROM space yet. The ROM works fine.

sheran_g,
what command did u use to extract rom files? did u do it under windows or unix?
I'm having problems trying to dump the rom image. I don't know if its too much to ask, but can u zip ur directory and post it somewhere so i can download it? or if u can post commands that u ran to dump the 2003 rom?
thanks
alex

Hi,
could you include "O2 home zune" to the 2003 image, like in the 2002 3.19 GER. Its for Germany interested only!
AR :?:

home zone depends on specific 3.19 rilgsm features. which are not in 4.*

okay, used dumprom -4 -d files -q nk.nbf and extracted all files. Got could not find pointer for ofs 00000000 ERROR but all the files seem to be there. Trying to figure this out. Saw the above abreviated directions but am fumbling around. Anyone have concise directions?
Val

Anyone? Just give me a good hint then please.

Hi all!
When i overwrite the rilgsm.dll file in the t-mobile 4.0.10 image with the rilgsm.dll from the O2 GER 3.19 image, i could use the "O2 home zone" option with the hz.exe in Starup directory? rilgsm.dll from german image hes 'at+creg=2' string in it. probably the RIL_GetCellTowerInfo call is now implemented. When it can work, how could i write the german rilgsm.dll to the image? I haven't linux, could somebody cook the image for me?
here is the germen rilgsm.dll and the hz.exe for the "home zone" funktion! http://www.nokiaprog.de/XDA/home_zone.zip
THX
PS: Sorry, my english! ;-)
AR

the homezone enabled rilgsm.dll depends on other dll's and exe's.
probably ril.dll, stk.exe, cell*.dll and maybe more, I have not tried
replacing all.
you don't need to build a new rom in order to experiment with this, you
can just copy the desired files to \windows, to override the rom versions.

And I don't think it works with the RIL_GetCellTowerInfo call,
but adds some notification events.
to change the CREG setting you need to call RIL_DevSpecific with parameter 25 ( to turn it on ) or 26 ( to turn it off )
even though that does not seem to be how hz.exe does it.

Hi,
I opened the image file in the Hex editor and renamed the file there rilgsm.dll. Then I flashed the image, which was phone probably deactivated, because rilgsm.dll was missing. Then I copied over ActiveSync the German rilgsm.dll into the Windows directory, XDA reset and he not accept the file. I assume because the file was not in the EPROM memory! Therefore I wanted to have rilgsm.dll first times in the image!
AR

XDA developer Itsme said:
my latest romtools can be found at romtools
now it calls dumprom to find and fix the filedata offsets.
I think they should now build 2003 roms.
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Is there any other way i can access this site or I can download this files, the sites are block here in my country, Please Help
Ronnie

Building Rom using MKROM

Can anybody please help me to build a rom? specially to the XDA-developers, thanks in a million...in advance.
My question is:
1. Do i need a base rom(no program included) on the cfg/(rom.nb1)? is it necessary ?
2. what is the maximum files i can put in the files/ directory? that will be splited by mkrom, i know it is depending on the version since 3.17 the maximum for all files is 5 M. how about other version. 4.01,4.05, 4.10 and 4.16
3. when i run the bash setup.sh nk.nb1(4.05), using parameter for 4.05 i get a message "!!! your rom is not known to me: md5:fb9e70c5786f08e4db6db7c184c59704" is this normal or it is not define on the splitrom.pl ?
4. what kind of editor did you use for building a BMP file with 16 bit, I tried to use adobe photoshop 6.0, but i can not seem to save it as 151 k, the option is only 24 bit and 8 bit, if you can give me a site where i can download it , i will really apreciate it.
Thanks for the Help..
More power to the XDA team
and
Welcome TMO 4.16!!! (which i think no diff with 4.10)

1. yes you do need some kind of rom to start with
2. you can check using
Code:
perl splitrom.pl yourrom.nb1 -ob <your bmp offset> | perl calcgaps.pl 0x3ffff
and add the sizes of the holes.
you have to figure out where the bootsplash is for your rom. ( for new roms this is most likely 0x81ec0000 )
3) there is a list of 27 roms I know about in splitrom, if I never saw your rom, the signature will also not be there.
btw, what rom do you have?
4) I think we used photoshop for that. ( Peter Poelman knows more about that )

thanks for the reply XDA developer Itsme,
but how can i build a baserom with the rom i have, I have a ROM 4.05 which i created in jeff's kitchen? or any site where i can download the base rom 4.05?
I have a ROM 4.05, 4.10 which i get from jeff's kitchen and also the original 4.10 TMO. regarding the signature of the ROM, i read your splitrom.pl and i found out you 27 list of roms, but i didn't find that signature "md5:fb9e70c5786f08e4db6db7c184c59704" is it because my ROM is not base ROM?
my param is ;
wincever=4
start1=21740000
size1=0040000
start2=003c0000
startbmp=81ec0000
startop=81b00000
I'll still try to use the photoshop, maybe i miss something there.
Please correct me if i done something wrong with my commands.
I have Perl 5.8 and cygwin, installed in windows 2003
then make the path for perl/bin and cygwin/bin
then i copy all the things i need to build a rom in one directory including nk.nbf(with jeff's 4.05) and mkrom tools(which i got from the demokitchen)
i run "perl setup.sh nk.nbf" to extract the bootimage.bmp and rom.nb1 to cfg/ directory
then i dump "dumprom -4 -d files -q nk.nbf" to extract all files in files directory
then i convert "perl fdf2reg.pl files/default.fdf cfg/default.reg"
"tr -d "\0" <files/initobj.dat >cfg/initobj.txt"
"cp files/initdb.ini cfg/initdb.ini"
then in files/ directory i delete all the windows files i leave only the program with the dll i wanted to add in the rom like total commander, file commander.. etc...
(I compare it with the original files of WM2003)
then i run "bash mkrom.sh out/out.nbf"
but i got an OVERLAP message on the screen
and also the same message like i told you before "Your rom is not know to me"
Please Help me with this because i want to build my own rom according to the program i need.. and many thanks.

split rom does not recognize romkitchen roms, since they vary too much.
you should use an original rom, not one from the romkitchen.
the overlap means that somehow the params file was not correct.
or maybe you just tried to add too much files.

XDA developer Itsme said:
split rom does not recognize romkitchen roms, since they vary too much.
you should use an original rom, not one from the romkitchen.
the overlap means that somehow the params file was not correct.
or maybe you just tried to add too much files.
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Thanks Itsme, thats why splti rrom can not recognize the ROM I have, I'll try to search for the base ROM in the forum, or can you give me a site where i can download the baseROM, I think that's why I am having a OVERLAP because there is a added program on my ROM, XDA-Developers File1 and File2 is duplicated.
It answer my question regarding the ROM i have, thanks a lot man you really a good help.
Now my only problem is to find all the base rom so i can start cooking some ROM.

Someone help to dump WM5.0 Emulator image.

The WM5.0 emulator is working on my PC.
Japanese Emu, S-Chinese emu, and T-CHinese, emulator. also english.
i want dll, mui, exe files from them, to make Japenese or chinese WM5.0
on my Himalaya with english WM5.
Hope someone can help to dump it or make dump tool.
i have a dump tool my friend made for WM2003 emulator, so not worked for WM5.0.
if need emulator image from WM5.0 SDK, i will upload i them.
Please help!

ms would be pretty stupid if they made it possible for one to unload a real rom image from an enulator
as far as i know then all roms have to be 100% made / "compiled" for each pda to work
so unless that emulator was using an 100% image of the rom for the device you want to upload it to later
i doubt it would work

Rudegar said:
ms would be pretty stupid if they made it possible for one to unload a real rom image from an enulator
as far as i know then all roms have to be 100% made / "compiled" for each pda to work
so unless that emulator was using an 100% image of the rom for the device you want to upload it to later
i doubt it would work
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thanks for your comment,
but plese dont worry i want just take the resourcese from dll or exe, to make mui files to pretend interface of OS.
i used this way to make japanese OS on my Blue Angel with PPC2003se.
Mr, Mamaichi teached this way to me in the past.
for your refference
http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/6114096.html
http://asukal.seesaa.net/article/5052836.html
Japanese site, but you can see the JPGs

ooh got a bit confused then i guess

Asukal
You can dump the ROM image from WM5 emulator with a normal dumprom tool, but first you need to convert image from B000F to the NB format with the command:
perl splitrom.pl PPC_USA_GSM_VR.BIN -wo ROM.BIN -oe 0x82000000
and then dump it as a normal rom:
dumprom.exe ROM.BIN -5 -d C:\ROM_DUMP
I've tested that on english version of emulator.
you'll need splitrom.pl script and a new build of dumprom tool from itsme.

Mamaichi>>>
thanks for your information!
i will try it!!

Thanks Mamaich!
after i got your private message and done it!
i got dumped roms files form mnu!
@Japanese OS image
@Simple chinese OS image
@Smart phone (WM5) japanese image
after succesfull them, the splitrom have error on following emu image.
@English OS image
@Traditional OS image.
i dont know why???
may try to restart windows system and try again
any way, i got it!
thanks!

hi Asukal,
can you please give me the links to your emu images?
i'm too lazy to search.. ;o)))
thanx
buzz

Yes, why not!
Here it it!
http://www.asukal.jp/ROMs/PPC_USA_GSM_VR.rar
20MB <not dumped yet>

i could dumed english image also.
here it it!
http://www.asukal.jp/ROMs/SDK_ENG.rar (17.32MB) dumped files
i dont know why i couldnt up load this as attachment???? :shock:
so i must use my own server :?

Asukal said:
after succesfull them, the splitrom have error on following emu image.
@English OS image
@Traditional OS image.
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what is the error text? I've dumped english ROM without errors

to mr,mamaich
i got successfult to dump english SDK emu rom after that.
But i took Bin from SDK in another computer.
I guess Bin file which i tryied dump at beggining was broken or have some problem??
or i have already opened and drove this emu image on the Emulator many times so it was not default already.
i have never tried again about T-CHinese Bin.
i think it can be possible if i took out another T-Chinese bin from another SDK.
the error text was...... cant remember exactry because i left that computer coz i am trip in europe now.
maybe.....
This image files has incorrect(or invalid) boot image.....or some like that.
sorry my late rplay.
I am in Germany now and have to visit Milan and paris after here.
thanks

MUI's in wm2005
Hi, everybody!
I followed this thread and successfully created some MUI's for 2005 (I think) but I can't get the device to load them. I tried changing the registry settings (worked for 2003se) but it didn't help.
No changes I made are visible and the files can be deleted, so I guess they are just ignored for some reason.
Can anyone help please :?:
Thank a lot!

that is true, also cant do that.
keep on studying now.
Something different from WM2003!

MUI security signature?
Hallow again!
I think the problem might be with the digital signature Microsoft now requires. :idea:
Also I made the following experiment:
I put the resources in 2003SE MUI officeres and btres and it did load, but when I tried it with shellres or coresres it didn't work.
I think it won't load unsigned system files…
Any ideas?
Any leads will be greatly appreciated!
:lol:

Re: MUI's in wm2005
levenum said:
Hi, everybody!
I followed this thread and successfully created some MUI's for 2005 (I think) but I can't get the device to load them. I tried changing the registry settings (worked for 2003se) but it didn't help.
No changes I made are visible and the files can be deleted, so I guess they are just ignored for some reason.
Can anyone help please :?:
Thank a lot!
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because on 2003, files are copied to RAM. on 2005 are used directly from ROM.
buzz

Re: MUI's in wm2005
buzz_lightyear. 2005 can also load dlls to RAM, for example when they are started from storage card or built-in storage.
There maybe one more reason. The DLL may be not loaded if your resource DLL does not have some resources that the original DLL has. Or if your DLL is somehow incorrect. You should make a program that calls LoadLibrary() for your MUI DLL and check the error code if it does not load.
For MS Smartphones there was a registry key that allowed to run unsigned applications. Maybe the similar method exists for WM5.
Asukal. I've attached the program that would try to dump shellres.dll of your device to \storage card\shellres.dll. I've tested the program only under emulator, on the real device it may crash.
If it would not crash - you should look into the produced DLL to examine its resources. This dumper would produce DLLs that are unable to load (they have no relocations information), and their size is larger than it should be, but resources should be extracted correctly.
PM me if the program crashes. And it probably would crash. I'll try to do something.

Mr,Buzz and Mr,Mamaichi!
thanks your comments, and i have just back from Paris and too tired to try mamaichi`s testwm5.exe
aftre sleep while, i will try it! (i dont afraid crash! glad to be sarifice!

I'd recommend you to try this tool - http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=23520&start=25#152044

To mr,mamaich
The first attached testWM5.exe dumped only dump.dll(?)
the second TESTWM5.exe of the link can extraxt installed files also, and RAM files can be dumped.too.
but not crashed.
i will remake MUI file and test it!
Thanks!

Custom ROMS Possible?

Given that crossbow is now floating around out there I was wondering if its possible to cook your own ROM for the Herald? I would happily start researching cooking ROMS etc. if it is. Or are we faced with a situation similar to that of the hermes where we need to find a bootloader that allows the flashing of unsigned code?

Hi,
i think the Problem is that Herald is not so popular as the Wizard and Prophet by now....
Let´s ait and see when someone is getting this nice one unlocked !

you are in the same situation as the Hermes.
AFAIK all devices using NBH for rom upgrades, need the upgrade file to be signed, otherwise bootloader won't flash it.

pof said:
you are in the same situation as the Hermes.
AFAIK all devices using NBH for rom upgrades, need the upgrade file to be signed, otherwise bootloader won't flash it.
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thanks for the answer (not the one i was looking for though!), i noticed in your hermes thread that you managed to get your hands on the bootloader from a pre production hermes. has this helped? should i be looking for the equivelent for the herald?

It helped because it has the commands to flash unsigned code... i don't know if preproduction bootloaders in Herald will have the same "feature", but it may be handy if you can get one too

I can try looking but i wouldnt know where to start! any advice would be appreciated.

Bootloader of Herald is similar to that of prophet and wizard.The only differrence now is the nbh format.One needs to check if awizard work or not?Then we canthink of debranding.I am working on the Bootloader of herald.Will post everything in Wiki.Pls wait for some time

hdubli said:
Bootloader of Herald is similar to that of prophet and wizard.The only differrence now is the nbh format.One needs to check if awizard work or not?Then we canthink of debranding.I am working on the Bootloader of herald.Will post everything in Wiki.Pls wait for some time
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ok thanks. If you need any assistance please ask me.

Here you go..
s4vva said:
ok thanks. If you need any assistance please ask me.
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Thanks to aWizard v 1.3 beta2 and POF for making NBH extract..
I was able to flash my herald from 1.7 dopod asia to new HTC 1.8 without changing/touching IPL/SPL.Here is how to do :
1)Use POF's NBH extract and extract the ROM parts.
2) Copy the OS.nb to awizard ROM folder and rename it to.nba
3) From the Lib folder of awizard, transfer enable rapi and certsps cabs to yr device and install them.
4)Now run the batch file and select "e" to enable rapi.
5) Then you can directly choose the option "w".This will give you the option to choose the ROM u want.Select and wait till awizard finishes.
One can also back up the Extended ROM, Splash image, bootloader, Radio and OS ROM with awizard.
It is very interesting that the size of the .nb file extracted from NBH file and the size of the wizard ROM(80040000.nb) is exactly same.
I tried to put crossbow image into it..but I clouldn't boot the herald.The boot screen showed "OS 10.1.00.88
So if some one can extract the things from both the .nbs we can think of having crossbow in herald..and I think POF can do it.
I hope, this helps the members to upgrade and play with their toys.

You Rock
Finally !!!! Did it. followed the instructions and wallaa finally dutch rom Bye bye bye and Hello English Rom.
Thanx Guys you rock
Look'n forward to crossbow soon.

Very nice discovery hdubli!!
Unfortunately I don't have Wizard nor Herald, and I have not much experience in ROM cooking... you should ask the real gurus here if you want to port the Wizard's xbow to Herald.... I saw it was ported to Prophet, but I don't know about the internals of Herald and Wizard enough to say if this can be also done here or not.
Anyway, kudos for your finding!
P.S. You should add this info to the wiki!

well done hdubli, this is serious progress!

I have no experience of ROM cooking, however I have both a Wizard and a Herald, so if I can help in any way just let me know.

Can I update the page pool? I want more free ram I now have 24 mb, nut I really want al least 32mb

Can you help out how to extract my rom, is there any tuttorial? I tried XDA tools but it apears an error.
best regards

1. NBHextract
2. mamaich imgfs tools to extract OS.nb, if it does not work try tadzio's make/prepare imgf with "-hermes" switch.

thanks a lot
i'll try to get the portuguese rom for xda
best regards
pof said:
1. NBHextract
2. mamaich imgfs tools to extract OS.nb, if it does not work try tadzio's make/prepare imgf with "-hermes" switch.
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looking for a bit of guidence here
i have the herald 1.8 ROM as .nba (taken from device using awizard)
and i have the wizard OS I want to use as .nb (extracted using typho5)
now my understanding here is i need to extract the herald drivers from the herald OS and replace the wizard drivers in the wizard OS, rebuild the OS.nba and write it to the herald using awizard. Am i heading along the right lines or am i way off? any help would be appreciated.

i really don;t know but if you have a rom with more ram I would like to have it lol

hdubli said:
Thanks to aWizard v 1.3 beta2 and POF for making NBH extract..
I was able to flash my herald from 1.7 dopod asia to new HTC 1.8 without changing/touching IPL/SPL.Here is how to do :
1)Use POF's NBH extract and extract the ROM parts.
2) Copy the OS.nb to awizard ROM folder and rename it to.nba
3) From the Lib folder of awizard, transfer enable rapi and certsps cabs to yr device and install them.
4)Now run the batch file and select "e" to enable rapi.
5) Then you can directly choose the option "w".This will give you the option to choose the ROM u want.Select and wait till awizard finishes.
One can also back up the Extended ROM, Splash image, bootloader, Radio and OS ROM with awizard.
It is very interesting that the size of the .nb file extracted from NBH file and the size of the wizard ROM(80040000.nb) is exactly same.
I tried to put crossbow image into it..but I clouldn't boot the herald.The boot screen showed "OS 10.1.00.88
I do the same thing as you did, tried to put crossbow image into it, and it boot up and freeze at the start screen, so now I have the problem, how to put the old OS back?
I have back up the OS ROM, but my machine can only boot into the tri-color screen, how did you do on your machine, please tell, it will hellp me out.
Thanks
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[Q] Tips on building images for the WM 6.5 emulator

I did some searching because i need a sense rom for the WM emulator to help me test a program i'm working on and i came up with nothing. So i figured it would be a good idea to try and cook one but i need some tips coz i've only ever cooked one rom before and it didn't really go well.
So thoughts and suggestions below please. I'm looking for kitchen suggestions etc.
Thanks guys.

try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774430 I find it easy to create a self customized rom.

poyensa said:
try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=774430 I find it easy to create a self customized rom.
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Cool, thanks, but i don't see how i'm gonna make this compatible with the emulator in the windows mobile SDK? have you got any more pointers on how to do that?

My kitchen is designed to allow you to build the rom the way you want it. It then outputs the rom as a .nbh file that allows you to flash to the phone. Your emulator sounds interesting.
You may be able to use the .nbh file and then read that into your emulator.

GhostXSeries said:
My kitchen is designed to allow you to build the rom the way you want it. It then outputs the rom as a .nbh file that allows you to flash to the phone. Your emulator sounds interesting.
You may be able to use the .nbh file and then read that into your emulator.
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Nope, can't do that. i tried it with a copy of NRGZ28's energy rom. It has to be a .bin or .nb0 file.
Now i did some reading while i was writing this and it turns out a .nb0 file is the same as the old school .nb rom dump files i just need to figure out how to convert an nbh to a nb0 file
Thoughts?
*edit*
found a tool called nbhtool by dutty that should do it
*edit 2*
dutty's tool didn't do it but i did find this tool by Da_G. The problem is i still get invalid image errors from the sdk emulator. I have searched but not found any answers so i'm a little lost.
Any ideas, guys?

Hi,
Can you post here an nb0 that works on the emulator?
we can try to import on our kitchens and check if we can rebuild it with sense.
If we can make it works, we can save a lot of time of 'flashing' when testing changes.

ypsmav said:
Hi,
Can you post here an nb0 that works on the emulator?
we can try to import on our kitchens and check if we can rebuild it with sense.
If we can make it works, we can save a lot of time of 'flashing' when testing changes.
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The files in the emulator are actually .bin files but i gather that internally they are the same format. They are also 96mb in size so it's gonna take a while to upload to hotfile. I'll post back when i have a link for you.
Thanks for all the effort btw. I really do appreciated it.
link as promise: http://hotfile.com/dl/129295626/a4324d3/PPC_USA_GSM_WVGA_VR.BIN.html

M3PH, OsBuilder makes rom either in nbh, or in nb0 format. It's a professional tool - not just a "kitchen to cook".

HTCRIE (htc rom image editor) can extract the OS.nb from a .NBH file..
can you just rename the .nb to .nb0 if they are the same?

Ok i've got osbuilder. Had a quick read of the manual. Now what? do i need the sys/xip for a build? i am a complete noob at this so lots of help would be appreciated.

I've just tried to open an emulator image from the windows mobile 6 sdk with HTCRIE and got an invalid file format error. This is starting to become extremely frustrating. Especially as i can find any information on the actual format of the emulator bin files.
Did any of you guys get any luck with the file i provided? Coz i'm really stuck!