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Clubimate and DirectPush....possible?

hello everyone!
I just flashed my device with the latest jasjar rom available. Small changes, but nonetheless exciting ;-)
I desparately find great advantage in using direct push...and was wondering how i could get it working. I have a couple questions, and would really appreciate it if someone could help me through
1. Is it possible to use the account which is free from clubimate.com?
2. How do i configure direct push to work?
3. Is it really instantaneous, if so, would my device constantly keep pinging or something to report being live and ready?
4. How is it when compared to blackberry? Afaik, i think bberry integrates with the cell phone provider, and an sms-like alert wakes the device for recieving the mail through gprs mode of data transfer. I might be halucinating here with my own theories ;-)
What would be great, is an idiots guide to getting it up and running!!!
Thanks for your time!
S

come on!!!!!! someone must have tried it :-(
S

i dont think imate have done the exchange sp yet, 4smartphone.net is now what im using with my normal pop account.
4$ a month on the lowest setup, easy to setup, and works great.

@dreamtheater, suggest you look at the Clumimate site and ask i-Mate the same questions you posted here.
Use of the Exchange server is free for a year if you have bought an i-Mate device and about $69 if you have one second-hand (pre-used) device and would like to use the Exchange service.
edit: also look at this thread on AK2U which covers battery impact of Push email http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=41659&highlight=review+ak2u

Thanks Carnivor & Jah!
I have another Imate device (a hima)...so i have an exchange account created at clubimate...
I tried getting it to work, and these are the problems that i face currently...
1. There is a constant problem with authentication. It syncs successfully, give it a couple minutes, and on the next sync it asks for the password. When i enter the correct pass, it says its wrong and keeps asking...and theres nothing that i could do. I have to manually log in to my web access through my laptop, hit on "log off", and then retry on my ppc for it to work. This is frustrating
2. I havent found a way to configure it to use my exisiting mail account. Is it possible to do it with other providers (4smartphone.net for instance?). I would typically like to provide my pop3 and smtp details to transact with!
Thanks again, i'll be looking into 4smartphone.net and seeing if it fits my needs, thanks again so very much!
Cheers,
San

im using 4smartphone, to push mail my regular pop account, so much less hassle that having yet another email address to deal with

Carnivor said:
im using 4smartphone, to push mail my regular pop account, so much less hassle that having yet another email address to deal with
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I just got a trial account up and running with 4...
It works good, and i'm just checking around to see if its a practical solution from MS...
I'm not too concerned about higher data transfers (i dont think it does anyway...its just a heartbeat packet sent out once in a while), but i'm definitely worried about my battery life. I'll see how it goes, and write back! Otherwise, it looks like a good solution for me....so thanks for the suggestion m8!
I'm however contemplating which solution to go for, the $4 or the $6!
S

How do you guys have your emails setup?

Hi all,
I just got my MDA yesterday and have been messing around with it ever since.
Anyways, I just have a quick question for those who have more than 1 email account setup through their phones. See I have 2-3 emails I use, plus one for school. I have them setup as messages (on the mda) and my school account through outlook (I couldn't set it up through the mda to work, because of security features). The way I have it setup works, but I am looking for a better way to put all of them into one area, but at the same time all the messages from each account distinguished nicely. If there is such a way please share the knowledge.
Thanx

I use the T-Mobile mail trigger service.....this is in the US though....

Yea I'm in the US too. What exactly is T-moblie email trigger?
thanx

It is a small app origianlly from the 6315 phone on TMO. I would guess it is on the MDA, too. It sends an invisible text that triggers the phone to login and download email. It makes it look like a slow push email system I don't think it will let me post because of the size. Google it, I'm sure you will find a download for it.
Your email is then setup on the TMO myemail site and those are the settings you use in the messaging app. I think there is a limit of 4 or 5 on the PDA, I only use two so I don't know.
Don't know a way around the security on your school email. Perhaps post the Outlook settings and someone here could post how to set it up on the mobile.
The built-in is far from perfect, but it will work for you.

Is it the MyEmail already installed on the phone? Because everytime I try to set it up it says I need T-Zone, do you guys have T-Zone?

Various Questions!!!

Hi There,
I am looking to purchase a device; mainly to be used to send/receive e-mail's on the move but also am interested in any extra functionality available to me!!
At the moment I am choosing between this (T-mobile Vario) and the Blackberry 8700. I was wandering if anyone would be willing to give me a quick comparison and maybe a personal reccommendation!!?
Also I was reading in a previous thread about a blackberry add on for the Vario....would anyone be able to give me a rough run-down on how/if that works at all please!!
I appreciate your understanding of my simple questions!!
Many Thanks
Dave

HTC Wizard .. its both cheaper and beter.
What good feature do you see in BlackBerry that HTC Wizard doesn't have?

I'm guessing that you've never used either a PDA or a Blackberry. The reason I say this is because if you had, the differences would be immediately obvious.
Blackberry is good at doing one thing and one thing only: email. There are very few apps available, and even fewer are free. There is no touchscreen. Browsing is difficult because of this, and many programs are a pain for the same reason. WM Smartphones has the same issue.
Both do email, but Blackberry is generally better (for now). What WM PDAs do better than Blackberry is... everything else. Look through these forums (fora?) and see what other people are doing with their PDAs. Anything they can do, NO MATTER THE PDA, you can do with a Wizard, and with very few exceptions, cannot do with a Blackberry.
My boss has a Blackberry from work, and I have a Wizard. I can't get my work email on my Wizard because it's not allowed yet at our organization. BUT, I can browse Outlook Web Access and view it when I want. I also can get my 5 personal email accounts on my Wizard, which he can't do on his Blackberry. Finally, he tried browsing Kelly Blue Book when buying a car, failed miserably and called me, and I looked it up on my Wizard.
Next, I have mapping programs, Word, Excel, Powerpoint, games, astronomy, a camera, dictionary, ebooks, music, videos, pictures, and on and on...
IMHO, anyone who's ever owned even a basic PDA would never bother choosing a Blackberry. You just lose so much functionality. If you don't need that and just want email, go for it.

uwaku said:
Blackberry is good at doing one thing and one thing only: email. There are very few apps available, and even fewer are free.
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Email with Wizard isn't a problem after the last ROM where SyncML for e-mail (push) is supported. You also have VPN support to accessing company networks.
uwaku .. what type of company mail setup do you have? You should not blame the Wizard for that your company don't allow you to connect your e-mail.
Comparing SyncML and BlackBerry.. is BlackBerry even a standard protocol? SyncML is a standard:
http://www.openmobilealliance.org/tech/wg_committees/workinggroups.html

Cool; sounds like the Wizard is definately more for me than the Blackberry....which is what I was leaning towards anyways. The one thing that I did want to know is whether you can get Hotmail on to the Wizard without having to go through the web browser (ie; go to www.hotmail.com).
Many Thanks

yes, hotmail access is pretty good on the wizard, It comes with Pocket MSN, once you've put your username and password into that it will add your hotmail emails and account the the windows email application, so no messing with www.hotmail.com

MyPhone location / finder feature?

Hi,
I'm looking into MS MyPhone for the first time, seems like some good ideas there..
Personally I use ActiveSync with an Exchange Server so I'm not interested in the contacts / calendar / email side of things, but the backing up of txt messages and the provision of a data conduit for files etc is very handy (previously I find myself emailing myself files! ).
I also like the look of the location / phone finder thingy. Very hand for when I can't find my phone, to work out whether I've left it at work or if it's in the house somewhere, or dropped in the street etc. HOWEVER from what I can see this only syncs up once a day. Ideally I'd like this to happen either more often (say hourly?) or on-demand. Otherwise I'm basically waiting up to 24hrs before deciding whether to report my phone as missing or not.
Any ideas?
nb. realise their might be some people that have privacy concerns around this area - I can understand these, however for me this is a useful feature I'd elect to use so all good!

SimonW500 said:
Hi,
I'm looking into MS MyPhone for the first time, seems like some good ideas there..
Personally I use ActiveSync with an Exchange Server so I'm not interested in the contacts / calendar / email side of things, but the backing up of txt messages and the provision of a data conduit for files etc is very handy (previously I find myself emailing myself files! ).
I also like the look of the location / phone finder thingy. Very hand for when I can't find my phone, to work out whether I've left it at work or if it's in the house somewhere, or dropped in the street etc. HOWEVER from what I can see this only syncs up once a day. Ideally I'd like this to happen either more often (say hourly?) or on-demand. Otherwise I'm basically waiting up to 24hrs before deciding whether to report my phone as missing or not.
Any ideas?
nb. realise their might be some people that have privacy concerns around this area - I can understand these, however for me this is a useful feature I'd elect to use so all good!
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The phone finder feature cost $5 per use, so you may not want to use it so much...

Actually, I thought that MyPhone premium features are a one off fee?
I've tried to get it to work on the HD2 but havent been sucessfull. Could you post wether or not it works for you in this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=594032
Thanks

Nagrom Nniuq said:
The phone finder feature cost $5 per use, so you may not want to use it so much...
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LOL - ideally I'd never need to use it at all! - however a handy to have when necessary!

How about Outlook Sync?

Just wondering, any news about being able to sync with Outlook?
I do not use online e-mail. I would get this phone but only if I can sync with Outlook both at home and work (Exchange). Need Contacts, Calendar, and e-mail (if possible).
Has anybody heard anything about it?
I would think they will use HTC Sync... but just wonder if it will be available or not.
Thanks.

HTC Hero does that.. So I am guessing it will be supported or else there is an app (TouchDown) that will do the same thing..

toocrazy999 said:
Just wondering, any news about being able to sync with Outlook?
I do not use online e-mail. I would get this phone but only if I can sync with Outlook both at home and work (Exchange). Need Contacts, Calendar, and e-mail (if possible).
Has anybody heard anything about it?
I would think they will use HTC Sync... but just wonder if it will be available or not.
Thanks.
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I think you can be 99% sure this will happen. I don't think Sprint would release a flagship device that wouldn't be compatible with 85+% of the business users that would like to purchase.
I wouldn't worry, and as stated, the Hero does this, as does the Nexus One, so I'm sure the Evo will be fine.

I hope it supports active sync encryption. My company switched over to this just recently and everyone with android phones were hosed. They will not install Touchdown on the server either.
I haven't heard anything about android actually supporting this protocol, has anyone?

toocrazy999 said:
Just wondering, any news about being able to sync with Outlook?
I do not use online e-mail. I would get this phone but only if I can sync with Outlook both at home and work (Exchange). Need Contacts, Calendar, and e-mail (if possible).
Has anybody heard anything about it?
I would think they will use HTC Sync... but just wonder if it will be available or not.
Thanks.
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Most likely. I don't see HTC not doing so. Plus they just updated the HTC Sync for the Desire and the Legend.
Link - http://phandroid.com/2010/04/16/htc-updates-htc-sync-with-support-for-desire-and-legend/

UnlnvlslblE said:
I hope it supports active sync encryption. My company switched over to this just recently and everyone with android phones were hosed. They will not install Touchdown on the server either.
I haven't heard anything about android actually supporting this protocol, has anyone?
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You need to speak to your IT person to allow for both in the encryption policy. So the android is not hosed. This is still secure while allowing those phones such as Iphone 2G and 3G that does not have encryption capabilities. The Iphone 3GS does have this. You can also support by individual mailboxes as well so you can fine tune those who do and those who don't. There are a few ways to implement this. I assume you have Exchange 2007/2010?
Touchdown is not implemented at the Server level. It's on your phone.
If you are looking for a complete Exchange experience I would suggest looking at moxier mail.
www.moxier.com - it allows for Mail, tasks, calendar and contacts with lots of corporate features. Remote wipe, etc. I do not think that your IT admin should have a problem with this setup either.
HTC's own mail on the Desire, Legend EVO has more capabilities than the same HTC mail client on the Incredible. Not sure if Verizon is the one holding it back.
Lots to think about

mrmomoman said:
You need to speak to your IT person to allow for both in the encryption policy. So the android is not hosed. This is still secure while allowing those phones such as Iphone 2G and 3G that does not have encryption capabilities. The Iphone 3GS does have this. You can also support by individual mailboxes as well so you can fine tune those who do and those who don't. There are a few ways to implement this. I assume you have Exchange 2007/2010?
Touchdown is not implemented at the Server level. It's on your phone.
If you are looking for a complete Exchange experience I would suggest looking at moxier mail.
- it allows for Mail, tasks, calendar and contacts with lots of corporate features. Remote wipe, etc. I do not think that your IT admin should have a problem with this setup either.
HTC's own mail on the Desire, Legend EVO has more capabilities than the same HTC mail client on the Incredible. Not sure if Verizon is the one holding it back.
Lots to think about
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I was under the impression Touchdown had a server-side plugin as well as an install on the device. If its just on the device I wonder if it would work for us. I don't have a device to test at the moment, I'm still rocking the TP2 and nobody here that I have access to really uses an android at the moment.
I work at a hospital and we need to keep all of our data extremely locked down. We can't allow any specific accounts to have less "lockdowns" than other accounts so it's not a possibility to tweak settings individually. I guess I'll just need to pickup an android device and try it out.
Moxier looks interesting as well, I'll have to give it a try once I get my hands on another phone.
Thanks for the tips!

I don't have a device to test at the moment, I'm still rocking the TP2 and nobody here that I have access to really uses an android at the moment.
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Try using XDAndroid, and load it up to see if it'll work. I'm currently booting XDAndroid on my TP, and it runs fairly smoothly (when it doesn't, I'm sure its hardware faults with my POS device).

UnlnvlslblE said:
I was under the impression Touchdown had a server-side plugin as well as an install on the device. If its just on the device I wonder if it would work for us. I don't have a device to test at the moment, I'm still rocking the TP2 and nobody here that I have access to really uses an android at the moment.
I work at a hospital and we need to keep all of our data extremely locked down. We can't allow any specific accounts to have less "lockdowns" than other accounts so it's not a possibility to tweak settings individually. I guess I'll just need to pickup an android device and try it out.
Moxier looks interesting as well, I'll have to give it a try once I get my hands on another phone.
Thanks for the tips!
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Anytime! Both these programs are very good as well as the built in extra capabilities from HTC phones. Unlike the Google N1 phone which does an okay job of Exchange Sync. HTC with Sense has a better Exchange interface as well as increased capabilities. It allows for server searches, etc. I have heard that the Google N1 doesn't allow for this or contact and calendar sync perhaps due to their strong ties to their own google contacts and calendars.
In regards to the Touchdown.
No Hassle Setup
TouchDown™ does not require you to run a separate program on your computer to forward your data to the phone. Simply install the product, configure it on the phone and get going in a couple of minutes.
Also Moxier has a nice interface. Both are very capable and will fit into any locked down environment. Both can take PIN requirements as well as WIPE devices remotely as well.
Good luck.