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Metallic sound from the speaker...

Hi guys.
I have a little audio problem with my Himalaya/i-mate/XDA II/MDA II/Qtek 2020 or whatever you like to call it.
The internal speaker seems to have a contact with something metallic or hard plastic. At the max earpiece volume, when calling, the ringing tone is distorted. When lowering the volume, it does not do this. It seems that, when the plastic membrane is moving, to reproduces the loud sound, it touches something hard and it distorts the sound. Does anyone have experienced this? I want to try to fix this. I paid hard won money for this marvellous device, and I do not want my experience to be ruined by bad audio.
Thanks for the help guys!

Not sure if its the same thing but when i played any sound it crakled a little. Did not bother me until the camera sound went on and off every 1 second. Did a hard reset and seemed ok until it happened again so i did another hardware reset went through all the programs i had instaled until it happened again. So i reset a third time without instaling that program(cant remember the name of it) but it works ok now.

I know what you mean Patrick..and if you hold your thumb over the earpiece it sounds a bit better, though of course muffled.
This is something that does bother me as I sometimes use the loudspeaker call option. Other phones don't have this problem in loudspeaker and it surprises me the II does this, as apart from a slightly rattly volume adjuster the build of my II is significantly better than the XDAI.
Just one of those things we have to put up with in order to have such an otherwise great piece of kit, though I'm equally surprised the manufacturers didn't notice it!
Anthony

Thanks a lot !
Yeah, your description and the thumb thing is exactly what I mean. I wonder if it's the speaker membrane itself or a contact with something? Maybe it could be fixed?
Thanks a lot guys!

It may be a warranty claim, you need full volume when using the speakerphone, get in touch with the service centre.

I have the same exact problem... The sound distorts if you have it set too loud.
I guess it's just the el cheapo speaker or poor design.

Hi guys, i have the same problem and its bugging me alot, any sugesstion or solution???? is it a hardware problem or did we install some software that case this? my XDAII still has warranty do you sugest me to go for service center or just live with this problem.
Thanks

Well Iam not saying its a good thing but Iam happy to see Iam not the only one experiencing this problem with the speaker although I dont own XDA II but XDA IIi or Qtek2020i whatever way you wanna call it. I also wondered if it is a harware problem couldn't we replace the speaker with a better quality one? In my case this jitter mettalic sound does not happen only in speaker mode but also in normal mode as long as the volume is set close to max or max.

My Qtek2020i has the metallic sound only when it's a large amount of humidity and very hot outside.
It seems that the speaker suffer a lot from humidity, it also happen when i keep it in my jeans pocket and i prespire a lot. After half an hour when it dries out, everything is ok.

Damaging speaker of XDA II is as easy as 123? true or false?

Well i think its true. why? read on!
I bought my XDA II a few weeks ago. Its a love & hate machine & i won't get into that. But i think i have damaged the speaker .. as in i can notice sound getting distorted at times. It probably happened when i played this audio file at full volume .. which was actually for less than 2 seconds!! Ever since then, i can tell how the sound from the speaker comes out distorted. Same exact thing happened with my brother, where he played some song at full volume & it apperntly blew his speaker. I've soft reseted the machine multiple times (who doesn't!) ever since but no hard reset yet.
Although my question is .. is it really _that_ easy to blow the speaker?! The device should either have a speaker that can handle the amplification it is being providing, or not amplify the sound to levels the speaker can't handle. Blowing your speaker away on the first attempt to play something loud seems awfully lousy to me from a machine's design point of view.
Has anyone else experienced such problem or know of some remedy? I don't want to open the machine up & get the speaker repaired. Would really appreciate any help on the matter.
Thank you all.

Hi m8. Don't know if you've tried this but I had a problem a while ago where I could not hear any sound at all. I could make a phone call and ther person on the other end could hear me fine but I could not hear anything. I found the way to make it work again would be to squeeze the thing at the top near the earpiece (as if it was a loose connection).
Like I said, don't know if you've tried this but it worked for me. Have you got warranty?

Hey Camel, i have had my sx56(wallaby) all the way apart, and the only thing attatching the mainboard to the speaker are two little spring-loaded contacts, perhaps try tightening the screws on the back of your device (if it's anything like mine), this should make the connection between your speaker and mainboard more secure.
Tim

speaker
hey mate,
yep same thing with mine. now anything above about 50% in a phone call and it's all distorted.
pretty annoying, i've just got to get around to opening it up and checking the speaker contacts/replacing speaker with a spare.
will post results.

problems with earpiece speaker

When listening to calls through the earpiece speaker the sound often sounds like it's blasting. Does anybody else have problems with the quality of the earpiece speaker? If it sounds good to a majority or you, then I will send it back to have it replaced, any responses would be appreciated.

CRACKLE
I have had 2 and they both crackle...I have been told that the earpiece speaker quality in these types of phones is not the best!!! So change for a another or put up with it. Mind you only need to keep the volume at minimum and you hear all calls as clearly as you should.

maybe its just o2
mines crap to
sending it back for replacement.
its supposed to be v good on this phone , why would they make it crap and everything else so good?

My 9100 has the same problem. I'm on my second 9100...the first one just died after a week for no reason. Now I'm on my second one and the earpiece speaker sounds like crap on full volume. (It wasn't the case on the first handset.) I work in a loud environment and I need a loud phone. (The spekerphone is absolutely useless too.)
I'm getting really annoyed with this device!!! For $700 I would at the very least expect it to work!!
Also, does anyone else going nuts over the lag when dialing from the touch screen? When you touch a number, it takes ages to show up on the screen...if at all. It was fine on my JAM.

Himalaya loudspeaker-sound lost, headphone-sound ok

I lost the loudspeaker-sound in my Himalya. It works using headphones. I think it may have to do with another set of headphone I connected to it, which was not original. Perhaps it put the device on permanent headphone mode. But then again it might not have anything to do with that.
Is there a Himalaya expert in Berlin - Germany who might be able to help me with it? I dread having to send it to the official reapir center, as I expect it to cost a neck and a hand.

Happened to me when I received a call whilst listening to music. I pulled the headphones out before answering the call, and then answered it. I could here them but they cvouldn't hear me. If you plug the headphones in again and remove them it solves the problem. Well it did for me anyway

I tried that. I doesn't do it. It doesn't matter what kind of sound, if Media Player file is played of phone ringing, only the headphones work. I think I need a dotor.

I have read a lot about the problem in others threads. It seems the headphone-jack can get stuck, not making a contact, which normally is being made and which turns the XDA back to speaker mode, when the headphone-jack is pulled out. Hereto:
1- What does that mean exactely? Which part is that, in what part in the on-board jack? If it had been bent out of place, is it possible to bend the part pack (at best without having to disassemble)? (I tried the ramming in and out, no go).
2- I looked at the non-original jack I had used and it is about 2 mm longer than the original. Might perhaps that explain it? Is there a part in the back that could have been bent out of place?
3- If indeed this was the problem (if the jack had been bent out of place, one way or another), would the microphone work? I can record using the dictaphone and the micophone also works during a call.

When we had himalaya's it happened to both of our devices (my wife and I had one each).
It appears the spring in the speaker can come loose. I used to bang mine (pardon the pun) on my palm and sometimes it would start to work. Then we broke the speaker protection shield, and this made it easier sometimes and hard to fix in others.
When I sold it, my friend took it apart as it was out of warranty, and as he is electrically minded, he find the dodgy bit, and soldered it to the device, and now works perfectly.

Yes! Thanks Jasjar. It worked after a bit of beating.
I found a detailed instruction of how to fix it permanently in another thread. Sounds complicated and dangerous but eventually I must do it.

ran2far said:
I have read a lot about the problem in others threads. It seems the headphone-jack can get stuck, not making a contact, which normally is being made and which turns the XDA back to speaker mode, when the headphone-jack is pulled out.
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Sorry for kicking the topic, but this was the solution for me. I just poked in the headphone-jack with a little stick and tataaaa... my sound is back!

Sound lost problem
Hi all,
same happen to me, the sound stoped working (on my side it had nothing to do with the phone jack).
After the modifaication which is described in this forum i had still the same problem so i solder the loud speaker directly - still same problem...
After some time i flashed the device again, now it works, so on my side it was a software problem...
The device was 3 month out of power, but i think remove the battery and if the sound appears on startup (on first boot) but later not, then flash the os and it will work ...
kr
chw

XDA 2 sound problem...
Hi!
Plese help me!
I have strange problem with my XDA 2.
I bough it 2 days ago. It was in O2 network.
Now when I unlocked it for my network (polish ERA-GSM) I saw that when I'm calling I cant hear anything. Person from the other sight can't hear me too..
XDA have sound becose I used media-player ando other sound stuff, thats why I think that speaker is ok. Microphone is ok too becose I can record animations with sound.
So what should I do now? ;/
Plese help...

Just for reference:
A friend of mine had this 2020, and both Speakerphone and mic were not working.
When somebody called, the ringtone DID sound.
Anyway, bluetooth handsfree worked fine.
All we did was play with the jack, using the stylus! Not even headphones...
And now it works fine!
He says he'll never put phones on it again... lol
cu around!

Looking for more Info
Hi, please help me find which points in the MDAII Motherboard can I solder to disable the headphones and get the audio and mic back to the MDA.
After a while my headphone-jack is broken from the motherboard and now I only have the pin outs in it.
The device is working perfect, and I can use bluetooth headphones. I just don't have audio in the speaker and no mic without bluetooth.
I hope someone can tell me which of the red points en the picture can I solder to disable the headphones.
I just want to do this temporally until I get a replacement spare part for it.
Thanks
EDIT: 12-12-2007
I got it. Just joining 1 and 3 and you will get audio back to the PDA disabling the headphones jack.
Thanks anyways for reading this..

Did you find out what all the mboard pins are for the jack?
I have a dodgy jack and would like to take flying leads of the mboard jack to an external (easily changed) inline jack. Does any know what the 1 to 6 pins correlate to. I would like to still switch the audio via the external jack. Not bothered about the mic.
TIA.

No sound while making phone calls

Hi...
Today I got this strange problem with phone.. I have no sound when I make a phone calls.. I can use speaker-phone, even play music, here alarm sounds, it works NP.. Any idea..
Seen this post,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2001027&postcount=5
could this be it.. I have not dropped the phone, and I can hear all sounds (on back speaker) but phone calls..
regards
ps. Just update to 1.56.70.11 no help.. U have DVH V20 (WM6.1)

sadik007 said:
Hi...
Today I got this strange problem with phone.. I have no sound when I make a phone calls.. I can use speaker-phone, even play music, here alarm sounds, it works NP.. Any idea..
Seen this post,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=2001027&postcount=5
could this be it.. I have not dropped the phone, and I can hear all sounds but phone calls..
regards
ps. Just update to 1.56.70.11 no help.. U have DVH V20 (WM6.1)
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Could be. When you say you hear all sounds but phone calls - I presume you mean all sounds from the rear speaker.
If I understand correctly you have reflashed? If so then you have 99% ruled out a software problem. The earpiece speaker could be damaged or probably just not making a good contact.
Quite often (though not always you can check the contacts by dialling the speaking clock (or similar) and the giving the phone a few short sharp taps (nothing too violent though) and if you hear the sound crackle on and off then it's almost certainly just needing the contacts tweaked. Not a fool-proof way to check but worth a try.
I have seen reports of both damaged speakers and poor contacts, both are reasonably likely. There is an equivalent Motorola speaker that can be used in place of the genuine article if it turns out to be damaged - The genuine one is tricky to get a hold of.
Before dismantling though, check your USB port. Try to be sure there is no damage around it or bent pins inside. Insert and retract a headset/earpiece mini USB. Do you get sound through an earpiece? If you get no sound then it is likely NOT the earpiece speaker that's at fault but the USB port. The port and it's connections must work correctly for sound to be routed to the earpiece speaker. (If you're pretty sure there is no damage there then a repair shop or dismantling is probably the answer)
Mike

Just got it fixed
Just fixed the phone...
I took it apart following these 2 urls
http://inuchanbt.blog54.fc2.com/blog-entry-100.html
http://www.pdacenter.ru/razborka/razbor_hermes/
more from
http://michael-channon.spaces.live....smantling+%2f+Disassembling+Guides+HTC%2fETEN Michael Thanks for good site
Then cleaned 2 connectors (picture below) using medical alcohol + Q-Tip/Cotton swabs
I did check Ohms on mini speaker and it was ok, so more less I knew it was bad connection problem.
Thanks for the help... Hopefully this post helps someone as well.. It was simple fix... hmn
regards