Ok - I got SPB pocket plus installed and what happened on my screen I got a shortcut telling me how much of memory I have left. Now, I did not install any extra programs but somehow it happened that from 20MB my memory got shrinked down to 13.1MB - how is this possible and what could be the reason for this.
All change I made was exchange of an memory card - from 512MB to 2GB. I might had something installed on my memory card but never re-installed it - might this cause this memory loss?
Thank you!
PS. Other then this - phone is AWESOME! I bought one more for my brother.
SPB pocket plus is also a memory hogger... why not try uninstalling it and check the memory usage at start->settings->system-<memory
Yep, it's really bad. Also you may have a program installed that has a memory leak. You might look into SPBs new mobile shell program instead of Pocket Plus. It seems to do much of the same thing but seems so far to be more memory friendly.
The reason I gave up Pocket Plus before the trial period was over was because of the memory leak. It was TERRIBLE!!
I went with iLauncher instead and have been VERY happy with it. Between Spb Pocket Plus and iLauncher, I used cLaunch -- in addition to Pocket Snapit and psShutXP and Magic Button or InClose. But when iLauncher came out with their upgrade that incorporated a screen capture utility, soft reset and task manager, I went with iLauncher instead to have one program replace 4 -- for about the same amount of RAM useage.
I had also purchased Wisbar Advance 2 and WAD and even gave them up for awhile due to the memory issues. However, Lakeridge Software has now completely revamped those apps and they only use about 1/3 of the memory resources that they used to use -- PLUS they work with WM6.
There's several things that can cause drops in memory. A good investment -- or even a trial period -- of MemMaid would be in order. I was able to see exactly where my memory was going while using MemMaid and it carries a very small footprint -- under 50 kb.
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Yep, it's really bad. Also you may have a program installed that has a memory leak. You might look into SPBs new mobile shell program instead of Pocket Plus. It seems to do much of the same thing but seems so far to be more memory friendly.
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I found that SPB Shell was very heavy on memory usage, but have no problems with pocket plus (most recent version 3.2.0 Build 5561)
As an alternative to Mem Maid check out the freeware app Task Manager V2.7 which can be found here.
It can offer you some of the functionality of memory maid.
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I've installed the latest version of SPB Pocket Plus (3.1) "Latest release".
I can say that they have solved all the problems related to slowing the device.... completely compatible with WM5.... speed had improved much.... no more freezes..... you can un-install any of the unused tools in the SPB program and keep only the tools which you really need..... VGA support..... and much more.
i agree, the new version is even better. I usually check all the software I have purchased when I hard reset, just to see if any have been updated. I was real happy to notice both SPB Pocket Plus and SPB Diary had new updated versions. I also grabbed the latest pocket informant beta, all seem to run much better.
Hello Eagle,
The new in SPB diary that it supports being installed in SD card not in the main memory without any problems, and also I like the way it manages the messeges.
I have been looking at spb 3.1 and backup. do they really add value to the exec.
I'm running the backup program on a trial so might see of I can do the same with pocket +.
where do I get the latest update.
I've installed the latest version of SPB Pocket Plus (3.1) "Latest release".
I can say that they have solved all the problems related to slowing the device
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But not for me! I initially stored v3.1 on my SD card. It worked OK fo a while but eventually I had to un-instal and put it in main memory. I have to say that between un-instal and re-instal, my device was very fast. After re-instal it's slow again - complete with start delay of up to 12 seconds. The start delay disappears SOMETIMES if I disable Storage Card Memory icons.
Despite this, I love the software and would still recomend it to anyone.
Rick GM said:
I've installed the latest version of SPB Pocket Plus (3.1) "Latest release".
I can say that they have solved all the problems related to slowing the device
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But not for me! I initially stored v3.1 on my SD card. It worked OK fo a while but eventually I had to un-instal and put it in main memory. I have to say that between un-instal and re-instal, my device was very fast. After re-instal it's slow again - complete with start delay of up to 12 seconds. The start delay disappears SOMETIMES if I disable Storage Card Memory icons.
Despite this, I love the software and would still recomend it to anyone.
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SPB Pocket Plus cannot be installed on storage card, and if installed on storage card it will not work properly....so, you did the right thing by un-installing it and re-installing on main memory.
You also did the right thing by removing the SD card indicator from the today screen as it really slows the device.
In general, it's a very good improvement in the software and its compatability with WM5 if compaired with the previous versions.
As the topics asks.
At least 5-6 MB free is tolerable. I really miss the 128MB in the XDA 2's
Surur
ive normaly got 20mb free...runs smooth
I am around 9MB and it slowly gets less, so there might be a memory leak somewhere.
I usually get probs when the amount of free mem gets around 5 MB. More then once when ushing TomTom to background and starting another app TomTom gets closed by the device (i guess because of memory shortage)!
This really frustrates me even more as I am not really running a lot of extra processes:
Capsnotify
MS VoiceCommand
SmartSkey
Also Todayscreen is not horrifying:
WiviT SSS
Wireless
HTCTodayscreen
I am running the test QTek aku2 rom
@Sbouri; How on earth do you get 20MB of program memory free??? I dont believe I have ever seen that even after my last hard reset!
I have 17mb free at the moment, with the following running:
Smartskey
Hudson Phone dashboard
VBar
Taskplus today plugin
Resco today plugin
Phone
Activesync
and of course PIE to write this post.
Oops.
This makes it even worse for me!!
More running and 10MB more free space!!
What rom are you on then?
I have 20 Mb Ram free
I am running this Today plugins
Pocket Breeze 5.1 beta
with all other SBSH plugins as tabs in Pocket Breeze
Ilauncher 2.03
Contac Breeze 1.201
Pocket Weather 1.33
All set on static in Pocket Breeze settings.
And I am also running Wisbar Advance 2.602 beta with Junis Black & White Theme
Using the latest Qtek rom with the cache tweak and some other tweaks.
I'm running the O2 XDA Mini S ROM released this week.
After start-up I have around 21 MB free program memory, but I seem to have a memory leak somewhere - after a while it is constantly dropping. When it reaches less than 15 MB I usually free up some RAM with SKTools or do a softreset - very annoying... :evil:
I have quite a lot of programs installed - usually running are:
Today plugins:
SPB PocketPlus + Weather + GPRSMonitor + Diary
KabuToday
Egress
Other software:
PMRecorder
SmartFilter
Always suspecting the SPB stuff to be so memory consuming... :?:
Anybody else with all the SPB plugins??
EDIT: just installed the newest version of SPB PocketPlus - according to the version history they fixed a memory leak - really seems to be a bit better now...
I got the same setup before - all SPB products and they sucked memory and was often very bugridden.
Now I have converted to SBSH products and are never going back to a SPB product except their backup application.
Nothing can beat Amit and the incredible guys over at SBSH products with their incredible customer support with frequent updates and new features
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After start-up I have around 21 MB free program memory, but I seam to have memory leak somewhere - after a while it is constantly dropping. When it reaches less than 15 MB I usually free up some RAM with SKTools or do a softreset - very annoying... :evil:
I have quite a lot of programs installed - usually running are:
Today plugins:
SPB PocketPlus + Weather + GPRSMonitor + Diary
KabuToday
Egress
Other software:
PMRecorder
SmartFilter
Always suspecting the SPB stuff to be so memory consuming... :?:
Anybody else with all the SPB plugins??
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Nothing can beat Amit and the incredible guys over at SBSH products with their incredible customer support with frequent updates and new features
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For the most part I do agree with that statement. However, when it comes to a Today Launcher, Pocket Plus is more polished than iLauncher. I am a registered owner of both products. Even moving the cursor using the d-pad lags from icon to icon on iLaunch where on Pocket Plus, cursor movement is fluid. Other little things like a more convienient icon selection panel, built in power off and reset buttons make PP my choice over iLauncher.
As for other comparable products, the SBSH products are just head and shoulders about the spb offerings.
Right at this moment ive got 23MB free, running a bunch of today plugins (traylaunch, recso, phonalarm, cpu graph) and also text messaging, activesync, comm manager, contacts.
18 MB Program Memory Free:
Currently Running:
Spb Pocket Plus 3.1.1
Spb Folders ( Plugin for Pocket Plus )
Pocket Breeze 5.0.12.2
Agenda Fusion 7
Photo Contacts PRO 4
Pocket Controller Professional
TodayTime
Tmail ( which is the SMS Part that I never close )
Active Sync
When TomTom 5.21 is running it drops down to 14 MB of Free Memory.
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18 MB Program Memory Free:
Currently Running:
Spb Pocket Plus
Spb Folders ( Plugin for Pocket Plus )
Agenda Fusion
Photo Contacts PRO
Pocket Controller Professional
TodayTime
Tmail ( which is the SMS Part that I never close )
Active Sync
When TomTom 5.21 is running it drops down to 14 MB of Free Memory.
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You don't have any memory leak?
How often r u guys doing a soft reset??
DoctorT said:
DREAMBOXER said:
18 MB Program Memory Free:
You don't have any memory leak?
How often r u guys doing a soft reset??
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I actually forgot one Tool -> Pocket Breeze 5 8)
Hmm I actually don't know how many times I do a soft reset. I usually do a complete Backup about every 3 days with SpriteBackup and before it it creates a backup it does a soft reset automatically.
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I have 15 MB left but I would like 64 MB Free initially
I have 15 MB left and running:
Cash Organizer
Skype
Active sync
Resco Explorer
MobiPocket Reader
Messaging (Email)
Internet Explorer
TomTom Navigator 5
Contacts
To feel Happy I would like 64 MB free with nothing running.
Forgot to add about soft reset
I soft reset about once a month. When I do that I have 27 MB free. When I run (more or less) the above applications it goes down to 15 MB free. If I close all of them I go up to about 17 MB. If I run them again, they don't seem to take extra memory (Yes i clsoed them from the task manager), and it stays at 17 MB free until I run TomTom which it drops to 15 MB free and it stays there.
Hope this helps.
edsub, i normaly have 24mb free when i soft reset...but whenever i close a program i always make sure i go to the meory settings and close it properly....i havent upgarded roms etc I've installed stuff like spb today plug in..after running a few apps my memory goes down to 19mb..watching a full length movie drops my ram to 18mb min
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I soft reset about once a month.
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Once a month? I find this very difficult to believe. You must not use many applications and the apps you do use must be very well behaved when it comes to memory. It's just a known fact that many applications do not release memory to the original amount before the program was run and if you run multiple apps it just compounds the issue. Heck, just open up IE a couple of times and see how much memory it eats up. Sync up a couple times and see how much memory Activesync chews up.
I have owned PPC's since 2000 and I have never been able to get away with not having to soft reset for that long of time. Not even close.
After a soft reset I am around 18-19mb free. That's with Pocket Plus, SBSH Pocket Breeze/Contact Breeze, Pocket Weather, SmartsKey, GSPocketMagic, OMAPClock, and MS Voice Command.
After a day of running IE, syncing, running PocketPlayer, Avantgo, misc other apps, I am down to 12mb of ram. I usually soft reset every couple of days sometime everyday depending if I am running a beta of some application.
Simple question - What's around the lowest program memory that you can have on the wizard before it 1) becomes sluggish 2) shuts down?
My 8125 seems to get really sluggish at aroun 5 - 6 MB, but I start getting the "critically low memory" error messages at about 2 - 3 MB, depending on what I'm trying to do at the time. It shuts itself off when it gets lower than 1MB. It's only shut itself off once since I've had it.
After that, I started looking at why the system resources were so low. I replaced programs that were "memory hogs" with similar programs that left less of a footprint. I now run Magic Button to make sure programs CLOSE, rather than using up memory resources in the background.
At this point, i average between 15MB - 18MB free Program Memory at all times, and 12 - 15 MB Storage Memory free . . . just about where I want it.
That low, eh? I don't think I've gone lower than 10 and that was before vbar (then the logical switch - Magic Button). I've started using WAd and it does to program memory what a girlfriend does to my wallet.
Ditto that on WAD!!
I had also tried the Spb products and also Resco. Finally gave them up for Sbsh iLauncher, Pocket Breeze and Pocket Weather (which I have integrated into Pocket Breeze as a custom tab). I keep iLauncher on my Today Screen, but keep Pocket Breeze minimized until I need to see my agenda or check the weather forecast.
Replaced Resco Editor with Total Commander and run PHM tray launch with just the psShutSP shortcut and the command center icons for iLauncher and PocketBreeze. Couldn't use Batti -- it crashed my unit; same thing with RhinoStats. I now use ResInfo150, which also puts the battery and memory meters in PHM launch tray.
Spent almost 4 months trying out different things -- installing and uninstalling, hard resets, soft resets, etc. etc. Last night, I downloaded and installed a couple of skins for WMP -- a Windows Vista theme and uPod (makes it look like an Ipod). I am now happy with what I'm running and the way my 8125 performs. (But, that doesn't mean I won't keep looking for "new" things, some "new" tweaks, and DEFINITELY some upgraded ROM's!!)
i am having a problem with my O2 exec, i have the latest rom update and i am running pocket weather and batti monitor. After normal use of my pda the program memory will drop from 20ish to about 6.
This is causing some programs to crash and is annoying me, i am closing all running programs in program manager but this dosn't seem to help.
Is there any way to free up program memory without reseting?
Cheers, James.
Try Oxios Memory: http://www.oxios.com/memory/
It is free and works great for the Universal. I also have SPB Backup installed and set to do automatic backups at 5 AM everyday followed by a automatic soft reset. This assures me my data is safe and I wouldn't run out of memory for the day. Just a suggestion on my part.
Which version of Pocket Weather are you using? I heard the earlier versions caused a memory leak with some of the ROMs. You should try uninstalling Pocket Weather for a week or so and see if that helps.
After installing MUN_RUS and LVSW roms....
The leakage is even worse them WM05 roms.
i start the day with 23 MB, and after 3 hours of work (push mail and some calls) it narrows down to 13-16 MB....
Anyone else experiencing this?
Nadav
No. I don't experience this. I have my phone on 24/7 and this doesn't happen even after long time of no resets.
Remember these are BETA roms
Unless your device was idle when it happened (which it wasn't), this is memory usage, not memory leakage.
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Unless your device was idle when it happened (which it wasn't), this is memory usage, not memory leakage.
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Yes i understand,
but WM06 is supposed to improve this issue isn't it?
it is even worse then WM05.
Nadavi
That depends on how you look at it. Does WM6 free the memory when it is needed?
For example Vista uses loads of RAM in comparison to XP but that is actually a good thing and intended behaviour. Free RAM = unused RAM = useless RAM.
The only important thing is that applications get enough RAM when they need it.
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That depends on how you look at it. Does WM6 free the memory when it is needed?
For example Vista uses loads of RAM in comparison to XP but that is actually a good thing and intended behaviour. Free RAM = unused RAM = useless RAM.
The only important thing is that applications get enough RAM when they need it.
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Thats the issue here,
That Pocket pc software doesnt use that much, and doesnt stay resident in memory!
if so, upon closing of the software it should clear out the used memory, i was convinced that in WM06 that think is executed better then WM05.
well it isnt
anyway, about free memory, the device is being up for 13 hours now,
and 11MB free! i can't even run Navigation software.
i've installed
SPB pocket plus
SPB diary
spb mobile shell
spb phone suite
Eyron hebrew support.
Ezdial.
None of thoose are not standart software programs.
What is wrong in WM06?
Nadavi
Windows will not be unloading modules aggressively unless it needs more memory. In other words, if you start a program and then close it, memory usage is likely to change in comparison with what it was before you've started the program. If you run enough programs to really exhaust available memory, it will unload some modules it's not using. One of the reasons it's done is to speed up your program if you restart it...
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Windows will not be unloading modules aggressively unless it needs more memory. In other words, if you start a program and then close it, memory usage is likely to change in comparison with what it was before you've started the program. If you run enough programs to really exhaust available memory, it will unload some modules it's not using. One of the reasons it's done is to speed up your program if you restart it...
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I'm using SPB pocket plus to Really close each program being used.
so no software is left open.
but still, with push mail and normal daily usage i got no memory left at the end of the day.
Nadavi
NOT USE SPBsoftware!!!!!
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NOT USE SPBsoftware!!!!!
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ok, they are great softwares! please give me your usage....
What is you rate of memory leakage?
you begin the day with:
and end it with:
which Software installed
Thanks in advance.
Nadavi.
SPB Software only for WM5
If you use this soft on WM6 - memory and system stable PROBLEMS
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SPB Software only for WM5
If you use this soft on WM6 - memory and system stable PROBLEMS
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What apps launcher do you recommend then as an alternative for SPB Pocket Plus??
I'm using SPB Phone Suite and SPB Pocket Plus :\
Almost every software that I know, is for WM5, not for WM6
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What apps launcher do you recommend then as an alternative for SPB Pocket Plus??
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Try iLauncher, but I think that it is for WM5 too Don't know any launcher for WM6
Well, they are for WM5, but most applications are also working properly on WM6.
I've tried iLauncher on WM5, but now i was thinking to try Pocket plus on WM6. The warning of LVSW is making me think twice
Any other recommendations for a good launcher?
I use SPB Mobile shell, SPB Diary and SPB weather...
I had no memory problems with these three when testing either lvsw or mUn ROM.
KamaL said:
Well, they are for WM5, but most applications are also working properly on WM6.
I've tried iLauncher on WM5, but now i was thinking to try Pocket plus on WM6. The warning of LVSW is making me think twice
Any other recommendations for a good launcher?
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I use iLauncher, for me it works well without being too "heavy".
lvsw said:
NOT USE SPBsoftware!!!!!
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Why??
Thanks in advance.
Cheers
alchemax said:
Why??
Thanks in advance.
Cheers
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lvsw said:
SPB Software only for WM5
If you use this soft on WM6 - memory and system stable PROBLEMS
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