Owned a Cingular 8525 for just about a month now. So glad I found this forum, its full of wonderful information from a superb community.
I've just upgraded to XDA Live 0.2 and I have a question, although I don't think this question is specific to that version of WM.
The clock on the Today screen shows the time on the top line - but it doesn't show the AM/PM indicator. I believe this was the same under the Cingular theme under WM5 that came with the phone. If my memory servers me correctly, I soon found a way to modify that on WM5 and had the clock showing the AM/PM indicator.
Problem is I made that change in my first week of ownership, and now that I've just upgraded to XDA Live 0.2, I've completely forgotten how I did.
There doesn't seem to be any way to modify the display format in the Settings->Today applet. Maybe it was a registry change I made???
Anyhow, if anyone knows a quick way to make this setting, even if it means installing a separate clock app which replaces the default, I would love to know.
BTW I did make a search on the Hermes forum before submitting this post, but I couldn't find anything relevant.
I am not sure, but this may be connected with the regionnal settings. Try to play with those option which are located in settings
I've got Wisbar Advance 2 on my 8525 and by setting the time format to 'h:mm tt' it displays the AM/PM. Maybe there's a reg hack that can do the same with the standard toolbar clock?
Try:
Settings/System/Regional settings/Time/Time Style
and then choose the H:mm:ss option on the drop down menu.
Hope this works for you
The answer to this question already exists in previous posts.
The answer to this question already exists in the wiki.
If the above post by marissa does not work (remember you can scroll up as well as down in this option) then change the registry:
Go to:
HKLM\nls\overrides
and tap on key STFmt
Some valid entries for this key include
h:mm t ........(12hr, A/P)
h:mm tt .......(12hr with AM/PM)
H:mm:ss ......(24hr)
h:mm:ss tt ...(12hr, seconds, AM/PM)
hh:mm:ss tt .(12hr, seconds AM/PM, leading 0)
Once you have done this and saved it, LONG press the on off button and wait for the warning pop up saying device will shut down and unsaved data will be lost. Tap yes and then long press on/off button to restart. Do not use soft reset or else you may find the changes you just made will be lost and you'll have to repeat the process.
You may find phone is in flight mode on restart but just turn it off.
Mike
Re: How to get Today clock showing AM/PM ?
Thanks Marisa & Mike. I forgot to mention that I had taken a look at the Regional Settings applet too, and already set that up to show the h:mm:ss tt format.
Still didn't work on displaying the clock. So I then used Mike's tip about the registry. On looking at that key I saw it was already set to h:mm:ss tt. I modified it anyway, saved, and did long shutdown, long startup.
On reboot, I don't see the clock displayed with the AM/PM indicator. Oh well, thanks anyway. I'll go and post this over in the XDA Live 0.2 thread - maybe it is something to do with this ROM after all.
Thanks again.
Sorry, thought it was just the am/pm that you were trying to show. Getting the clock to show in the first place is different. Will post later, unless someone beats me to it!
At work at present.
Mike
Try some of these:
Change the display of the clock in the taskbar
The clock in the taskbar can be changed to show not only the time, but also the date, or just the date, or nothing at all.
To show nothing:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\TBOpt = 0 (DWORD decimal)To show just the clock:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\TBOpt = 1 (DWORD decimal)To show just the date:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\TBOpt = 2 (DWORD decimal)To show both the date and the clock:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\TBOpt = 3 (DWORD decimal)Note 1: If you switch to the Analog clock display, the date will remain visible -through- the Analog clock
Note 2: Setting the clock to show 'nothing' will still keep the reserved space, showing the taskbar background, and obscure any icons that will shift to the right.
Note 3: Your date may get obscured by the space reserved for the OK/Close button in the top-right. You can fix this my adding spaces at the end of your 'Short Date Format'. See also the tweak on 'Change the Short Date Format'
The wiki has lots of this type of setting see here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other
Mike
Related
Hi all,
I am aware of different task-managers being able to change the today screen. But I could not find the following.
In the today screen at the botton right there are three icons, "battery level", "wireless manager" and "screen turning".
I found a .cab-file to delete the battery from there, are there also .cab-files to delete the other two ? Or can I maybe do this by registry changes ?
Also the date is visible in my today screen, as I like to have it handy. But (mostly in landscape mode) I dislike the whole line to be empty. Would it be possible to displace the mentioned icons to the top of the screen, to be in line with the date. As I loose valuable real-estate on the date (to the right) and the icons (on the left).
Any ideas ?
Regards,
Ruud
To hide screen rotate icon:
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Service\ScreenRotate
ShowIcon value change to 0
Default: 1
Changed: 0
Don't know the answer to the other questions, but switching wireless icon of could be simular, just search for showicon in your registry.
For showing battery & wireless in the topbar I use SPB gprs monitor. It combines battery & wireless (usage & connection) in one (position adjustable) icon.
Regards, M
Hi oltp.
works a charm, thanks.
I tried to take away the wireless manager with all different tricks, but could not manage. There is no ShowIcon DWord in there and adding it does not change anything either.
Actually I do not mind it being available, but i'd rather have it (and the wireless manager) in the same height of the screen where the Date is. That would definitely be a solution to save space.
I tried the Order DWord, but to no avail.
Anybody has any additional ideas ?
Regards,
Ruud
Search the key HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Services\WirelessMgr and change the DWORD Keep to 0, soft-reset and voila !!!
Apparently it's on the wiki as well
Hi oltp,
perfect, apperently I was not trying enough. The icons are all gone and the real estate is used by other today screen things, very nice, THANKS.
Should anybody know how to put the icons in the "date-bar", please tell me, if not I am happy already.
thanks again,
Ruud
I set the Wireless Manager KEEP Dword to "0" , the icon does disappear but the "Fn+Right->" giving the wireless manager on/off menu also stops working. Do others have the same issue? I tried add a "ShowIcon" Dword to the registry but unfortunately it does not work... Any advice on this? Thanks.
Hi stanip,
looks like I was confirming happyness too early.
Yes, it is the same like with You, Fn-Right arrow will enter into the Wireless Manager menue, but all looks to be switched off, the screen-buttons do no work anymore and I cannot enter the phone-settings from there. (Wifi and BT settings can be entered)
Of course that's not so nice a price for getting that real estate.
Any better ideas would be appreciated.
Ruud
I've had a problem almost since I bought my K-Jam where I can't change the clock from 24hr to 12hr...17:04 to 7:04pm. After the ROM upgrade, it went back to 12hr mode....I was happy. Now, for some reason, it's back to 24hr mode...no matter what changes I make within Regional Settings I can't get it to go back to 12 hour mode.
Any thoughts on this?
Tom
Often overlooked in the regional settings\time change h:mm:ss to h:mm:ss:tt (scroll up) that should do it.
If not u have a bug
meschle said:
Often overlooked in the regional settings\time change h:mm:ss to h:mm:ss:tt (scroll up) that should do it.
If not u have a bug
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I had the same problem...the critical point there is SCROLL UP...the dropdown (at least for me showed 2 items) and I didn't realize that I could SCROLL UP to see the non 24 hour settings.
I am having the same problem, but I knew about the regional settings and tried to change it several times, nothing works. It's stuck on 24 hour time.
ZeBoxx quote
Date: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:14
use this reg tweak
Code:
HKLM\nls\overrides\STFmt = "hh:mm t" (REG_SZ string, no quotes)
Please note that the single 't' only shows P or A in the Taskbar and the Clock/other applications. If you use 'tt' it will show as 'PM' and 'AM' in the Clock/other applications, but it doesn't display at all in the Taskbar.
I prefer h:mm t or h:mm tt so you get no 0 before time
or you can try h:mm tM if you want aM displayed in the task bar and don't mind big m - my own tweak
this may do it
You guys are the best!!!!!!
I scrolled up and found what I was looking for. I'm all good now.
I didn't know that I could actually scroll. I used the lower case settings and I'm back to normal.
Thanks again!!!!
Tom
Yay, that was bugging the hell out of me as well.
Hi there,
I've just installed an updated AKU2 ROM, and all is well except the time is no londer on the top, and the battery icon is now in the title bar, not in the tray.
Does anyone know how to revert back to having time at the top title bar, and battery at the bottom (or not at all).
I'm sure I've seen this mentioned on here somewhere, but I can't find it anywhere!
Thanks
Taken from http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other
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Hide/Show battery indicator in Task bar
If you wish to hide the battery indicator in the task bar on some devices, you can set:
HKLM\Services\Power\ShowIcon = 0 (DWORD decimal)
And to show:
HKLM\Services\Power\ShowIcon = 1 (DWORD decimal)
Note that this icon and its feature may not be available on your device at all. For example, the HTC Wizard regularly ships with a battery indicator in the Tray instead, governed by "Windows\Startup\Init_Tray.exe"._
_Note also that this reportedly does not work on AKU2 ROMs to remove the new battery indicator
However, if you get hold of one of the newer ROMs, eg 2.23 or 2.24 then you'll find that MS have come to their senses and have put the clock back.
Thanks, disabling th battery icon will do for me.
What program is best for reg editing?
please note that with AKU2.2+ ROMs, you actually need the following tweak instead ( listed further down that same wiki page):
Restore Clock on Taskbar when on Today Screen
The AKU2 update brought with them a, arguably lame, battery icon which replaced the Clock. Although the clock can be restored when running applications, it is permanently removed when on the Today Screen. Microsoft have addressed users' concern over this in the AKU2.2 update. You can restore the clock entire by setting the following:
Code:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Shell\ShowTitleBarClock = 1 (DWORD decimal)
Microsoft blog entry: http://blogs.msdn.com/windowsmobile/archive/2006/04/28/586453.aspx
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As for registry editor, I use PHM Regedit - works very well
Ok, in the registry I dont have \Services\Power
As I'm using an AKU2 ROM (QTEK 2.17) I'm guessing this won't work?
any ideas?
Scottland said:
Ok, in the registry I dont have \Services\Power
As I'm using an AKU2 ROM (QTEK 2.17) I'm guessing this won't work?
any ideas?
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Correct it won't work, you need an AKU 2.3 based ROM like the T-Mobile 2.24 found here.
I have a screen shot of the today screen here.
So far, 2.24 is working well for me.
Well, AKU2.2 anyway. AKU2.3 is even newer
AKU2.0 though, you're SOL :|
And pre-AKU2.0, this wasn't even an issue
Still waiting for an official AKU2.2 update from Qtek myself... or AKU2.3.. whichever.
Use this program to show the battery icon back at the tray.
cayotte said:
Use this program to show the battery icon back at the tray.
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That works, but doesn't remove it from the top bar which is what I'm after?
i installed tweaks2k2.net to fiddle with the registry, did a few changes and soft reset the device. now i manage to screw up the area where the sound, radio, gprs icon and gprs monitor is located. now my sound and radio bar is hidden or block by something.
how do i get back to its original state? unfortunately i did not backup my registry. damned.
anyone?
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update!
problem solved. i just need to apply the date setting back to the task bar and everything back to normal using the same tweak.
Using 0.98. Is there anyway to stop both date and time being displayed once you lock. Have tried using the settings program and got the clock to disappear by not setting a clock font, but no similar option for the date, so this still appears. Thanks in advance
Turn curtain off. Perhaps that removes everything though. IT's an option at the bottom of the settings.
no. the curtain is only to remove
the translucent shadow that is behind the clock and date so as to maKe them more legible.
A better place to post all of this might have been in the development and hacking section under the Slide 2 unlock thread? Just a thought.
Slide 2 Unlock 0.98
Using 0.98. Is there anyway to stop both date and time being displayed once you lock. Have tried using the settings program and got the clock to disappear by not setting a clock font, but no similar option for the date, so this still appears. Thanks in advance
Right, had enough of the forum police following me around, nothing actually productive just derogatory. Will post my question in the "development" section, thanks to those who did try to assist!
Yeah you can edit out the date in the registry. HKCU - software- AC- s2u2 and delete everything in the dateformat data.
I was not trying to be negative. I was just saying that you might find the exact answer you are looking for in there. No harm meant.
this version doesnt work on my touch. going back to 96.
change the lang.ini file and have a blank date.
Thanks decimusmaximus7, that's a winner!
Is there a way to change this?
zliverfox said:
Is there a way to change this?
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Yes.
If you are asking how to change it, then the answer is: Start -> Settings -> System -> Regional Settings -> Time
Thank you very mutch
I've been trying to do this - I somehow managed it with my Diamond, but no luck with the HD yet - I'm trying to go the other way, from 24hr TO am/pm - but if UK English regional settings are selected, 24hr appears to be the only default option and there's no visibly simple way to switch it (unf... not that I've found at any rate)
Same problem
I want to switch to 24 hour clock. When I change it in the regional settings it does nothing for the touch flo 3d clock....
It should, are you using the stock ROM? Change it so you get a 24 hour clock in the title bar then soft reset and see if TouchFlo catches up.
in regional settings, goto tab: time,
time shoud be: HH:MM:ss
I'm sorry
I'm sorry,
What I meant to say, was that it changes to the 24 hour format but i thought 'HH' meant to have the leading zero for 00:00 - 09:00, instead i get 0:00 - 9:00.
Not a big deal...
clmntch said:
I'm sorry,
What I meant to say, was that it changes to the 24 hour format but i thought 'HH' meant to have the leading zero for 00:00 - 09:00, instead i get 0:00 - 9:00.
Not a big deal...
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In fact, the 2 "h" ("hh" or "HH") means to put a leading zero. The capital "H" instead means to use a 24 hour clock, rather than a 12 hour one (which is obtained through "h" or "hh").
So if you want a 2-digit, 24 hour clock, you should use "HH".
I had the same problem and this solved for me. Hope that it helps you too.
Thanks
maTTeo
Anyone has any idea to switch to 12-hour clock with AM/PM for FLIP clock? I manage to do it for small clock (as well as everywhere else) but the flip clock just stays at 24-hour format even after changing Regional settings and NLS registry key.
I remember when I got the HD, the flip clock was in 12-hour format but after installing certain apps it converted to a 24-hour.