TomTom V6 - Is it worth the upgrade? - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Any views/comments on whether TT V6 is worth the upgrade from 5.2? Any major problems with it on a Hermes platform?

I'm using TT 6.0 on daily basis and had no problem so far

I've used both 5 and 6, there's hardly any difference in the functionality. I'd say 6 is a little quicker than 5 (loading it and menu's etc).
Haven't had any problems with 6 apart from freezing when it's trying to connect to my BT GPS, but if you press the Red cancel call button to get back to the today screen, then click the tomtom hands in the task bar it loads back up fine.
Cheers

Same receiver?
Silly noob question, no doubt, but does the B/T GPS receiver work for both versions?

yes bluetooth works fine on both (Tomtom will activate it so theres no need to switch it on).

Karzi said:
yes bluetooth works fine on both (Tomtom will activate it so theres no need to switch it on).
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Actually, I was asking if the TomTom receiver itself is the same for version 5 & 6. Admittedly OT as the answer really has no bearing on how it does/doesn't work with a Hermes.

warmkiwi99 said:
Any views/comments on whether TT V6 is worth the upgrade from 5.2? Any major problems with it on a Hermes platform?
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I am using tomtom 6 on a cingular 8525 and it works great. I know there were some feature updates to the v.6 and I think the one I like the best is the ability to pick a saved contact from my device and automatically set up a route to the address. Here is a link to some of the features of v.6...http://www.tomtom.com/news/category.php?ID=4&NID=287&Year=2006&Language=4

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TomTom Not full screen

Can anyone please help, I use a XDA Exec with TomTom 5.1 and it works fine, But is there way like on TomTom 3 where i can have TomTom not running in full screen mode.
I like this way as i can keep a eye on the signal strength of the phone whilst driving, as mine like others and looses signal and needs a soft reset to fix it, But of corse with TomTom running you cant see if the phone is out of service
Thanks
John
Unlikely! TTNav-5 appears to be the version for their stand-alone TomTom-Go devices with a few bodges to get it to run (sometimes) on a PDA.
Although TTNav-5 has a few nice touches over v3, as far as PDA navigation software goes, TomTom seem to have lost their way! :lol:
Admittedly a personal opinion, but I've been using TTNav since the first version.
astage said:
Unlikely! TTNav-5 appears to be the version for their stand-alone TomTom-Go devices with a few bodges to get it to run (sometimes) on a PDA.
Although TTNav-5 has a few nice touches over v3, as far as PDA navigation software goes, TomTom seem to have lost their way! :lol:
Admittedly a personal opinion, but I've been using TTNav since the first version.
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I agree completely! TT3 was far more flexible IMHO than this new 5.1 version, which seems crippled and unhelpful by comparison. :roll:
I'm wondering about using alternatives. Has anybody who's tried both TT and other nav systems got any comments? People mention CoPilot 6, but as far as I can tell, that runs off an SD card that they supply, which is no use when your SD card slot is used for music storage in the car.
applecom said:
Can anyone please help, I use a XDA Exec with TomTom 5.1 and it works fine, But is there way like on TomTom 3 where i can have TomTom not running in full screen mode.
I like this way as i can keep a eye on the signal strength of the phone whilst driving, as mine like others and looses signal and needs a soft reset to fix it, But of corse with TomTom running you cant see if the phone is out of service
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John -
My solution to the same problem was to install PocketPlus and use its button mapping and task switching features to program the pointless videocall button on the keyboard to switch apps. One press while looking at TomTom takes me straight to the screen I saw before opening TomTom (media player? Today screen?), where I can check my signal strength or control my music. Another press takes me back to TT. Worked fine. But once again I'm having to use a bodge to overcome limitations of crap software. :evil:
Thanks for the replies, i am glad i am not the only one that is frustrated with it. I will try the sugestions.
Thanks again. John

iGuidance 3 issues

Well, first off let me say I have just upgraded from iGuidance 2 to iGuidance 3. iG 3 is about 8 MB bigger than iG2 and therefore I had to install it on my mini SD card. It works perfectly fine, loads seems to be just as fast (since maps are stored on the mini SD with either program. Anyway, my problem is basically that the program works great, but when the lady comes on telling me when to turn, lets say in 2 miles...it is REEEEAAAALLLY slow and exhagerated. She goes like, Turn.........left..........in........two........miles...... I recently started overclocking my 8125 to 260 MHz to see if it was a speed issue, but no change as far as the sound goes. Any ideas?
turn off your internet connection and you should be OK
DNO
IGuidance 3
Runs fine for me, at stock speed, program and maps on the mini-SD. Maybe it is the overclocking?
- Tim
I have Iguidance 3.0. Now I need the GPS module.
Which GPS module do you all use? What is the best now? Holux, Globalsat? or some other.
Thanks
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i use the Rikaline GPS-6033 Bluetooth from buygpsnow.com its $89
picks up 32 sats works indoors and its fast at cold startup locks on to sats
in under 30 seconds i use tomtom and iguidance 3
Re: IGuidance 3
Tim Fountain said:
Runs fine for me, at stock speed, program and maps on the mini-SD. Maybe it is the overclocking?
- Tim
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I tried it at stock speeds and overclocked speeds, it still did the same thing. I'll try turning off my ActiveSync with my Exchange later today when I'm going on a small road trip and see if that solves the problem.
jschaff said:
I have Iguidance 3.0. Now I need the GPS module.
Which GPS module do you all use? What is the best now? Holux, Globalsat? or some other.
Thanks
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I use the Holux GPSlim 360 I think it is. The number may be off though. It's uber small and I just throw it in the center console in my car and use it when necessary. Cold start is about 30-45 seconds.
The Rikaline GPS-6033 does not show to be SirfIII. I thought this is the latest technology to get. Is this a more recent technology or is the SirfIII over blown?
I brought this to the attention of iNavcorp, makers of iGuidance, a few weeks ago. This was their reply:
"Our programmers are currently looking into this issue. In the mean time, while turning off the phone will resolve the issue, based on our knowledge, you should be able to simply disable the gprs (wireless data connection) function on your PPC phone which will also resolve the slow voice issue, but this way you will still have phone access."
I had told them that turning off the phone solves the problem. Anyway, they are aware, and I am hopeful that they will fix this in an upcoming patch.
p.s. DNO's answer was right on...
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The Rikaline GPS-6033 does not show to be SirfIII. I thought this is the latest technology to get. Is this a more recent technology or is the SirfIII over blown?
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SiRFstarIII is amazing. Don't let anyone tell you otherwise.
I use the Holux GPSlim 360 I think it is. The number may be off though. It's uber small and I just throw it in the center console in my car and use it when necessary. Cold start is about 30-45 seconds.
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It is the GPSlim 236 and it is a great unit! I love mine.
The voice on mine works great, I could not get it to instal to the SD, I had to install the CAB there, and then run that to install the actual program to the phone. My problem is that the maps haven't been updated with streets that have been made in the last few years, and the shopping POIs arn't that great.
I have a Houlix 268 slim (I Think thats the model), and it randomly loses connection, so I have to power-cycle it and restart IG3, for it to regain connection.
Also every once and a while it does a wierd click sound when I'm slowing down.
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I brought this to the attention of iNavcorp, makers of iGuidance, a few weeks ago. This was their reply:
"Our programmers are currently looking into this issue. In the mean time, while turning off the phone will resolve the issue, based on our knowledge, you should be able to simply disable the gprs (wireless data connection) function on your PPC phone which will also resolve the slow voice issue, but this way you will still have phone access."
I had told them that turning off the phone solves the problem. Anyway, they are aware, and I am hopeful that they will fix this in an upcoming patch.
p.s. DNO's answer was right on...
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I did notice this was the issue this weekend. Is there a "quick" way to disable GPRS? I guess i'll keep an eye on iNavcorps website.
Turn it off from the comm manager. Mine works fine while I am using BT for my headset and on the phone talking.
Do iGuidance do maps for Europe? THey seem to have discontinued their european product; if I can get the europe map from v.2.12 will it work with v.3.0?
Cheers.

GPS - any suggestions?

Loving my new O2 XDA Mini S, and am gonna get GPS SatNav thingy for it - I can get a 2GB Mini SD card for £25, but can someone recommend a good GPS Bluetooth receiver that works well with it (I'm in the UK). Is sirfIII better than sirfII chips? Do I need 32 channel or is 16 fine?
Also what software do you guys recommend? TomTom? iGuidance? iGo? All I'm really interested in something with spoken directions and something that lets me type in 2 post codes and Go!
What version of TomTom is applicable to the XDA Mini? TomTom Mobile? TomTom Navigator?
Is 6 worthwhile or is 5.21 ok?
Is it easy to install?
Sorry for all the questions, just excited about the prospect of SatNav
Hi there, welcome to the world of the Wizard, :lol:
As far as GPS chipsets go, I think the SirfstarIII is better but I can't be sure.
I always got on very well with a 16 channel BT GPS before it broke so dont be fooled by loads of hype about how many channels it has.
More channels does mean it can lock on to more at once but it isn't absolutely necessary.
Tomtom 5.21 is good enough but I feel personally that 6 is better. Bear in mind that if you would like TT on a landscape setting, it doesnt have that feature anymore so 5.21 is the way to go. Other than that, there are ways around it, it's up to you.
Hope that helps a bit
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Bear in mind that if you would like TT on a landscape setting, it doesnt have that feature anymore so 5.21 is the way to go. Hope that helps a bit
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Sorry i disagree with that, it may not have it i the programm but i have my mic button set to switch between Land and Port. I just press that button and it works good in land!!!
To set a button Start, Setting, buttons, select you button at 1. and then select <Rotate screen> at 2.
and now you have landscape for Tomtom 6.0
The holux GPSlim 236 is a very good device, Sirf III so great reception and its tiny.
as has already been said, more channels isnt better, while there are loads of satellites up there due to the curv of the earth you will NEVER get more than 10 sats at once, Ive had 9 and thats the most my device sees.
You also only need 3 to get a lock. 4 gives your position in 3d (so altitude as well) and more doesnt really do much. So any 12 channel reciever is good. But yeah, aim for SIRF III, the quicker lock on and better reception in built up areas is a must.
Im currently using Tomtom 6 and its the latest and greatest. If your getting tomtom then obviously get 6, its actually cheaper than 5 (even cheaper if you know where to look )
I tried route 66 but its too much, Im a techie myself but this program is just stupid, giving you all sorts of useless info on screen and very little map.
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Jerry-S said:
Bear in mind that if you would like TT on a landscape setting, it doesnt have that feature anymore so 5.21 is the way to go. Hope that helps a bit
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Sorry i disagree with that, it may not have it i the programm but i have my mic button set to switch between Land and Port. I just press that button and it works good in land!!!
To set a button Start, Setting, buttons, select you button at 1. and then select <Rotate screen> at 2.
and now you have landscape for Tomtom 6.0
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Other than that, there are ways around it, it's up to you.
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Disagree with what???
And on that score, if you want to sacrifice your recording button, the next option, "Button 4 (Hold)", assign that to the Tomtom Navigator program and hey presto.
Yes, I have "purchased" TomTom 6 already at an, erm, "good" price, with GB maps.
I'm gonna get a 2GB mini SD when I get paid, and a GPS receiver.
So am I right in thinking ANY Bluetooth sirfIII receiver will do?
Also is it easy to set up? I've read some scary (to me anyway!) stories about registry hacking etc on the XDA Mini S to get it to recognise GPS receivers.
Paiting a BT GPS is easy - just ensure that the name you give it ends in "GPS"..... then TomTom will connect to it .
That was valid for 5.32 - haven't tried 6 yet..
Charlie Grillo
cgrillo said:
Paiting a BT GPS is easy - just ensure that the name you give it ends in "GPS"..... then TomTom will connect to it .
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I wasn't aware that you could rename the connection! Hows that done then?
markmcrobie said:
What version of TomTom is applicable to the XDA Mini? TomTom Mobile? TomTom Navigator?
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To answer the question, the pda version is Tomtom Navigator.
Mobile runs on 'phones'. By that I mean units that do not have a touchscreen.
Well thats my interpretation anyway. I have Tomtom 5 Mobile on a Nokia 7610. i.e. It doesn't have a touchscreen.
I decided to purposefully disregard price for the GPS and got a USGlobalsatBT359. It cost £75.
The reception is fantastic. I can get 8 or 10 sats at high strength if I stick the unit on the underside of the car roof. My TomTom Go barely picks anything up.
The start up time and battery life are great. Just needed to tweak the WM5 registry of the Vario2.
The only thing I don`t understand is the GPS control panel!!!! It does not seem to do much!!!!
And on that score, if you want to sacrifice your recording button, the next option, "Button 4 (Hold)", assign that to the Tomtom Navigator program and hey presto.
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What i've done on mine is assign that button to the voice commander thing so I can run multiple actions by voice by holding in the button.
Not perfect but I found that assigning TT to just one button then left me wanting other things at other times.
David.
I have a Holux (not HOLOX - cheap copy) 20 channel BT GPSlim 236 receiver which is great. A 32 channel receiver may well mean you stand a slightly better chance of picking up satelites but there isn't 32 satelites up there anyway.
The system works by triangulation meaning you only need three to get a lock on your position. The more you see the better though as the lock will be stronger. Many will tell you that due to the curvature of the earth you can only ever pick up 6 satelites maximum, but I happen to disagree.
Tomtom 5.21 is great, got it the other day and I found my way home first time... lol.!
Matt.
p.s Don't forget that GPS works using US military satelites, so if the US feels a bit twitchy i.e. either someone is about to pick on them or vice versa then they can change the coordinates of the satelites meaning over a distance you won't have a clue where you are!!
justinmg said:
The only thing I don`t understand is the GPS control panel!!!! It does not seem to do much!!!!
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Yeah it does but you might not need it.
Say you've got TT talking to the GPS on COM7, that's fine until you now need another app also talking to the GPS at the same time. It can't because the GPS is already talking to TT like a pair of housewives that haven't seen each other for, oh about a day! (ok, nothing like a bit of evil stereotyping eh?).
What the GPS control panel lets you do is share the GPS between multiple apps. You configure the GPS CP to talk to the real GPS via the hardware port number and then create a software GPS port.
You now configure your apps to talk to the software GPS port and the GPS port driver abstracts the real GPS port and sends the data to all the interested apps.
Like I said, you might not need it unless you want multiple apps to talk to the GPS at once. Why might you want to have multiple apps? One example could be a track data logger running at the same time as the satnav.
Or another might be Wififofum doing a wifi wardrive at the same time as running Tom Tom for satnav.
David.
Get the Holux GPSlim 236 and iGuidance 3. Bundled together it's $169 from buygpsnow.com and includes a free Arkon vent mount. I couldn't be happier!
Here's the bundle: Link to bundle on buygpsnow.com
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Get the Holux GPSlim 236 and iGuidance 3. Bundled together it's $169 from buygpsnow.com and includes a free Arkon vent mount. I couldn't be happier!
Here's the bundle: Link to bundle on buygpsnow.com
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I got the same bundle and I love it.
looks like some people have had problems with teh Houlk 236 over at gpspassion.com
I just got a Globalsat 338 and its awesome!! Huge improvement over the SIRFII based CF card GPS I had for my old ipaq.
I also 2nd iguidance. Its cheaper than tomtom5. I don't know which I like more, they both different things well (but Iguidance sure loads faster than tomtom for me). I'm looking forward to trying tomtom6 to see if its a huge improvement
looks like some people have had problems with the Holux 236 over at gpspassion.com. Might have been a bad batch but I steered clear. Hopefully no one here is affected by them.
I just got a Globalsat 338 and its awesome!! Huge improvement over the SIRFII based CF card GPS I had for my old ipaq.
I also 2nd iguidance. Its cheaper than tomtom5. I don't know which I like more, they both different things well (but Iguidance sure loads faster than tomtom for me). I'm looking forward to trying tomtom6 to see if its a huge improvement.
-edited because I type like a 1st grader
I would never buy Holux ever there technical support is arrogant and rubish they turned round and said sorry we dont support the item unless it was purchased from the uk
And would not send me the firmware to flash my gps230 so its now sat in a drawer doing nothing and i have a cheap £40 one thats brilliant BT-GPS
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/product/8590.htm

tom tom 6 + exec

how easy is it to install tomtom 6 on a O2 EXEC and get it working with a bluetooth gps reciver?
Are there any/many cracked coppies of this floating arround?
Cheers
Oblique
oblique said:
how easy is it to install tomtom 6 on a O2 EXEC and get it working with a bluetooth gps reciver?
Are there any/many cracked coppies of this floating arround?
Cheers
Oblique
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Here's an idea: try not stealing.
i don't nomaly steal but as i don't know how stable tomtom works on my phone or how stable bluetooth gps works on my phone i am reluctant to spend 80quid to find out.
works very well, you have to config your exec to get TOMTOM to work with bluetooth gps( you can find that on here somewhere).
It works fine, but slower than on a QVGA screen device.
I have used v5 and v6 on AKU 2, 3, and now Crossbow ROMs, it works fine on the Universal, so you can buy it without worrying.
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works very well, you have to config your exec to get TOMTOM to work with bluetooth gps( you can find that on here somewhere).
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You don't actually have to config anything if you have the TomTom GPS, it turns on BT itself, and finds it.
If you have a non TomTom BT GPS, simply pair it, and select an outgoing COM port, then when you fire up TomTom, tell it that it's a BT GPS on whatever port you chose.
All very easy.
cool, that is the kind of information that i was looking for, does anyone here use the live trafic update service? does it work well and divert you automaticly and how much does it cost to subscribe?
cheers
If I can remember, you and get 1 free month to try. Traffic is not always update!!!!!
It's good if there's a large incident, but in my experience you usually get stuck in things before they hit your device, and you see the road signs on motorways and things warning you anyway.
I stopped the subscripton, and just reroute myself if I see warnings, or hear something on the radio.
I am using TomTom 6 on my Exec now.
Previously used Navigon MN|5 which required *LOTS* of memory, so TomTom was a nice refreshment with its 7-9 MB memory trace.
Had problems setting up Bluetooth receiver. It wasn't showing up in the port list when I selected Bluetooth one. What I did was: added an incoming serial port, run TomTom and set port to this one (did not work yet!) then closed it and removed the port; after that TomTom just worked straight away At this point, an attempt to change port led to inability to get out of port selection, and you're buggered again. I'm sure that's some glitch, but I solved it anyway. May be there's a neater way of doing this.
But the software itself was good and stable, does what's on the tin, copy a directory to your card and you get Full Postcode navigation (very useful when finding businesses and not residential homes), and POI Warning function is built in now -- a *major* plus, never really got time to make POIWarner work properly. Tunnel mode -- progressive marker movement when lost GPS signal in a tunnel -- and that won my heart.
I do understand people's need to try BEFORE you buy, not after your money is tied up with some dud product and you get no refund. Go Trial, go.
Well in this case I'm pleased with TomTom 6 and its services. You can easily get a camera database each month from the Net and probably can live without Traffic service, but for me £33 a year doesn't seem too big a dent in my wallet - compared to £170-200 TMC receivers currently available on the market.
AlanJC said:
It works fine, but slower than on a QVGA screen device.
I have used v5 and v6 on AKU 2, 3, and now Crossbow ROMs, it works fine on the Universal, so you can buy it without worrying.
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AlanJC: Have you tried TT6 under WM6 and did all work well? Also, was TT6 happy after you upgraded the ROM - did you have any problems with TT6 thinking the Device Code had changed, thereby needing to re-register the software?

tomtom 6 NAVIGATOR

I have installed a (legitimate since you ask) copy of tomtom NAVIGATOR 6 onto my MDA Vario II. The 4+ Mb programme resides in main memory and the Western_Europe map and everything else is on the 2Gb Sandisk Micro SD card. I have a Fuzion SiRF starIII bluetooth GPS receiver. tomtom's US website says the hardware and software are compatible, the UK site does not. The programme runs very slowly (it's not smooth as I have seen demonstrated on a Mio, which had a 312Mhz processor, but is stilted). Sometimes the machine locks up and I have to press the 'OK' button. When browsing the map, the machine struggles to process the picture. I ensure that there are no running programmes. What is the cause, please? Could it be that the hardware and software are incompatible?
just try to flash aku 3.3 to your vario. it will make ur phone work smooth and will not hang at all. then u will be able to run tomtom 6 perfectly
Rather than risk aku 3.3 issues I suggest you are probably right and there is soe sort of hardware issue. I have navigator 6 and TOMTOM BT receiver and hav absolutely no issues at all
I use TT6 on a daily basis and I can say that under WM5 AKU2.3 it used to hang very often when putting post code. I ran ok. After flashing AKU3.3 it works flawlessly. The same with WM6. Now it also seems to run a little bit faster.
Hi, everybody,
any ono knows where a can find a tomtom software for my Asus p535.Sorry to ask but i'm new on this matter and don't know how to do it.
Many thanks...
silvino said:
Hi, everybody,
any ono knows where a can find a tomtom software for my Asus p535.Sorry to ask but i'm new on this matter and don't know how to do it.
Many thanks...
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Welcome, but you are in the wrong place my friend. This is the HTC Hermes forum. This site is primarily for HTC devices. However here is Tomtom 6 for PPC phones (official tomtom site):
http://www.tomtom.com/products/category.php?ID=2&Lid=1
Mike
What you need to do is disable all the POI's except the speed cameras. Mine did exactly the same thing. You can still navigate to the POI's, they just don't show up as you're driving past.
Cheers.
ok... maybe you guys who have already told him to upgrade his phone to aka3... somthing or other do know best BUT...
could you please say what version of tomtom 6 you have. (there are at least 3 versions i have used)
to find this
load tomtom
on the navigation window tap the section of the screen that shows GPS signal strenth this will load the route summary window.
in here below the right hand side pannel that again show the GPS signal strength it should say the version number 6.XXX
please let me know what versino you have... i have found varying levels of stability and performace with diff versions of tomtom.. might be as simple as a different tomtom build to resolve your issues.
Acuum.
Yostin said:
What you need to do is disable all the POI's except the speed cameras. Mine did exactly the same thing. You can still navigate to the POI's, they just don't show up as you're driving past.
Cheers.
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yep this is the same on mine, disabled all but a few POIs and no or very rare freezes. if it does freeze up hit the hangup button and relaunch.
there was some hope with the Version 7 tomtom out soon that there would be a fix for the problem.
Acuum2 said:
ok... maybe you guys who have already told him to upgrade his phone to aka3... somthing or other do know best BUT...
could you please say what version of tomtom 6 you have. (there are at least 3 versions i have used)
to find this
load tomtom
on the navigation window tap the section of the screen that shows GPS signal strenth this will load the route summary window.
in here below the right hand side pannel that again show the GPS signal strength it should say the version number 6.XXX
please let me know what versino you have... i have found varying levels of stability and performace with diff versions of tomtom.. might be as simple as a different tomtom build to resolve your issues.
Acuum.
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My Hermes is running with AKU 3.3 and my TomTom is 6.0.30
ok. i have had pretty good results with 6.0.30 but it might be worth you trying the 6.0.20 version and see how you get on.
at least you will loose the anoying mute on start bug. (the phone sees a data connection and asuumes its a phone calls so starts in mute.)
ok well the results your described i saw with the first tomtom 6 i used, im assumeing it was on 6.0.00 but i have had pretty good results with 6.0.30 but
it might be worth you trying the 6.0.20 version and see how you get on. I'm using that this week by mistake since my last hard reset but its been stable for me.
at least you will loose the anoying 6.0.30 mute on start bug. (the phone sees a data connection and asuumes its a phone calls so starts in mute.)

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