Database Users

Charging - Desk v Car - Confusing

Hey Guys,
I have a query regarding charging my Hermes / 8525.
If I plug the phone into a wall unit, the orange charge light immediately comes on.
If I use the phone, or receive a call the phone continues to charge.
Once the phone has been used the phone/screen stays on.
When I plug the phone into my car adapter, the phone doesn't begin to charge until the phone goes into sleep mode. But then when I go to use the phone it stops charging. So if the battery is on it's last minutes, plugging the phone into my car adapter does NOT let me continue to use the phone. I have tried 3 different car chargers.
This week I bought an XTLINK Bluetooth Cell to Landline Converter. This is a great little box, and I love that once I walk into my house my cell phone rings through my phone system. Call Clarity is great.
But with the Bluetooth link active constantly the battery drains like crazy.
So I purchased a desktop charger unit. It arrived today. You can use it to charge the phone or with USB to synch the phone. So I plugged in the wall adapter to the cradle, and the phone only charges when not in use.
But when I hook up the cradle via mini-usb to my laptop the phone goes into constant charge mode - but it's doesn't stay on after being in use.
Can someone explain to me why the phone has these different charging modes ? Is there something I can do to change a setting to make the charging more consistent ?
Thank you,
Dave

??
no one else knows about this ?

I have the same problem with USB charging in the car when I was running vp3G's Rom. Now I switch to Crc's Rom and the problem is gone.
But my phone would stop charging if I use my GPS software thru bluetooth and bluetooth headset. In that case I just reset my phone and it would charge normal again.

I have seen this too. I don't know the exact details, but the phone checks the charging current when it is on, to see if it's within a certain value. If it's not, it stops the charging circuit to protect the battery. That's why it works when it is asleep. You'll need to buy a car charger specifically designed for the Hermes.

Yep, there is a long thread on car charging on the forum. Like the other uses says, either buy a HTC official charger or have a look at the other thread about soldering pins 4 & 5 together on the USB connector.

I have a generic car charger from a local electronics store that does not have a problem charging whilst talking over a bluetooth hands free and navigating using a
bluetooth gps receiver, however, I am using one of CRC's roms so that might be why.
The only thing I have found is that if I leave the charger plugged into the hermes when I start the car the hermes stops charging and will not charge again until I reboot it... disconnecting the plug before cranking the engine and then whacking it in straight after works around the problem though.
There is probably so much of a voltage drop when cranking the engine that the little DC-DC convertor can not keep the charge current up.

Help: Treo Pro Charging Problem

....

....

Same problem
hey my treo charger broke and even if i bought a charger with the same V and mAmp specs it won't charge... anyone has the answer?

If you're sure the adapter is 1A then try soft-resetting the treo pro. Mine sometimes doesn't want to charge from generic chargers unless I reset.

...

Treo pro charging issue
drandazzo said:
Soft Reset worked, I can now charge this on my iphone charger by soft resetting, thanks... works great
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the same issue. A few weeks ago it use to charge if I did a soft reset. My it will only charge from the car charger and not the dc usb charger. I have tried a few things that ppl have suggested but no luck. When it is plugged into the DC usb charger the red indicator light comes on but it will not charge even if I leave it charging like that fro 5 hours.
Appreciate any help or suggestions. Has anyone had this issue as well?

this has happened to me... i unplug then replug. works with normal palm charger. others seem to be weaker than the stock charger

hoosein said:
I have the same issue. A few weeks ago it use to charge if I did a soft reset. My it will only charge from the car charger and not the dc usb charger. I have tried a few things that ppl have suggested but no luck. When it is plugged into the DC usb charger the red indicator light comes on but it will not charge even if I leave it charging like that fro 5 hours.
Appreciate any help or suggestions. Has anyone had this issue as well?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have the exact same issue.Also tried a hard reset but no luck. Anyone has any solutions?

i know that if you cover up the 2 middle pins betwwen the battery and the phone that disconnects the phone part.. and the battery can charge.. but even this is a huge pain. i love my phone but grrrrr.

Treo Pro car charger
Like so many other people, I have a lot of problems sourcing a compatible car charger. (Had a Palm one and it was crap before it stopped working). The suggested idea of shorting out the two middle wires on the USB cable actually works OK but it's a fiddly job.
An easy answer is to buy this charger. I guarantee it works as both a mate and I bought one and have no problems. It's actually advertised as being for the HTC Wildfire. At £3.99 inc. postage, it's a bargain
Unfortunately this site will not let me post a link
Go to Amazon and search for a charger for the HTC Wildfire. It is the one supplied by Cellapod

blitz11 said:
i know that if you cover up the 2 middle pins between the battery and the phone that disconnects the phone part.. and the battery can charge.. but even this is a huge pain.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You are Genius. Thanks.

[Q] Lock Sreen Won't Slide When Charging

I'm having an issue when the Focus is charging. In this state, the lock screen will not slide up to give me access to the phone. Typically it will slide up about 1/4" only then comes back down.
Is there a setting for this or is this a feature ;-}
Anyone else having similar issues?
Problem Solved! See post 5.

I am able to unlock my phone while charging. Have you tried rebooting the phone and seeing if the problem persists after that?

Mine if fine and can lock/unlock/use while charging.

I can unlock, but I can't get into the settings menu at all when it's charging. I can do everything else, and get into settings in other ways if they're linked from a program, just not through the main interface while charging. It's very strange.

Problem Solved - Don't buy AT&T ZERO Charger Kit
Hi Everyone,
I found the problem causing my Focus to "pseudo Lock up" when charging.
As I was troubleshooting this problem, I first noticed my focus did not lockup when using a car charger or when plugged into my computer. This led me to consider why it was only happening when plugged into the wall. So, I tried a different charger, the one which came with my Focus, and there was no problem. Then I tried the charger that came with my Tilt 2, working fine there too.
So the problem is with the wall charger I was using. This charger is the AT&T ZERO Charger Kit. At this point, I am not sure if it the problem is with the individual charger or with the ZERO brand. I will be returning this charger tonight and at that time will ask them to allow me to try another one to see if the same problem manifests.
I will report back to let you all know.

MardiG said:
Hi Everyone,
I found the problem causing my Focus to "pseudo Lock up" when charging.
As I was troubleshooting this problem, I first noticed my focus did not lockup when using a car charger or when plugged into my computer. This led me to consider why it was only happening when plugged into the wall. So, I tried a different charger, the one which came with my Focus, and there was no problem. Then I tried the charger that came with my Tilt 2, working fine there too.
So the problem is with the wall charger I was using. This charger is the AT&T ZERO Charger Kit. At this point, I am not sure if it the problem is with the individual charger or with the ZERO brand. I will be returning this charger tonight and at that time will ask them to allow me to try another one to see if the same problem manifests.
I will report back to let you all know.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I second this! I was using an LG charger with same specs as the charger that came with Focus. It charged it but wouldn't let me use a lot of features of the phone. The stock charger works fine, as I use it at work all day. Another day of streaming from Zune and Last.FM for 6-7 hours!

Do not buy the AT&T ZERO Charging Kit
Hi Everyone,
So I confirmed the AT&T ZERO Charging Kit does not work properly with the Samsung Focus.
I returned the wall charger I purchased and while at the store, we opened another unit and tried it and the problem replicated.
At this point, I do not know if the problem is limited to the Focus or is all Windows Phones. If anyone else has a ZERO wall charger, and a different phone, please let us know your findings.
Do not buy this device to use with a Focus as it is not compatible with the Focus.

Same problem here - AT&T Zero charger and Focus will not unlock when charging. When I take the cable out of the charging brick and plug the cable into a USB port on my computer the phone resumes charging AND unlocks just fine.

The iGo charger that I have works fine no lock screen issues.
On a separate note, my work exchange server mandates the lock screen, but unlike WinMo 6.x you can't set the time interval when the lock screen activates. I had mine at 24 hours of dormancy before it would activate. WP7 only allows you to keep the screen on longer. I hope they add some more options for this. I can't stand having to punch in the four digit code every time I use the phone.

I am using the stock charger and it slides up 1/4 of the way several times then it finally sides up. The touch is then slow to respond, but it eventually works again. Anyone else having this issue? I have tried this charger and an old Tilt 2 charger.

Review of AT&T Zero Charging Kit
There is a review of the AT&T ZERO Charging Kit at:
http://cwmcgowen.wordpress.com/2010/11/28/review-att-zero-charging-kit/
This is the same charging kit that was incompatible with my Samsung Focus.

Problem with charging from a car charger

I have a problem charging my phone at the car. When I connect the phone to the charger, the charging is constantly switching on and off draining the battery in minutes. I tried other devices and they are being charged fine. The phone itself charges from the wall socket without any problems. I just wonder what the problem is. I am attaching a log in case someone could take a look.

Actually, if I plug in the phone to the car charger, it discharges rather than charges even if it is turned off.

have you tried another car charger to rule that out? if you dont have another one try borrowing one from a friend or something to test it out. i had a similar problem with my N4 and a new car charger resolved it.

TA123 said:
Actually, if I plug in the phone to the car charger, it discharges rather than charges even if it is turned off.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I dont think it'd be a problem of your phone. If the phone is charging okay with the wall socket charger then your phone is fine. I'd suggest trying out another car charger.

Looks like it was a problem with the cable. It is not from N4 and used to hold fine but now it seems a bit loose. Thanks a lot, everyone, for suggestions.

Dead YD206

So YD206 about a month old. Was connected to official yota charger (via a magnetic usb cable), noticed the plug at the phone end getting quite hot. Phone now essentially dead, wont boot, doesn't seem to charge. We also realised the charger had come out of the wall socket. But the yotaphone light was intermittently flashing on the charger.
Whilst I am inclined to blame the magnetic charging cable, is it possible for current to flow in reverse from phone to charger and essentially discharge the phone battery below acceptable levels?
Any advice on rebooting it (can't remove the battery like I would on a Samsung) so whats the procedure?

Just a follow up charger not the issue, it crashed in use and the power button became non-responsive, with the screen off, and the e-ink display on but also unresponsive. Did not turn on when connected to a charger. However when I connected it to my pc it did register in device manager as MTP device, so I knew it was still alive. Removed the sim and held the power button down for 10 seconds then it rebooted.
Hope this helps anyone else with a similar problem.
Failing that it would probably have to be left to discharge (might take a while if nothing is running) then powered back on with charger attached.

I have similar problem. My phone got hot while not charging (about 15% of battery) and crashed. Then forced reboot (hold power button for about 10 seconds) helped while phone was connected to Yota charger, battery was dead, but phone booted (EPD on, did not check rest) and got to about 81%. After removing it from charger, same thing happened again, no luck with forced reboot this time. Phone was blazing hot and did not respond, then crashed again. No response after connecting charger or forced reboot. Any experience with this issue appreciated.

SuperTukan said:
I have similar problem. My phone got hot while not charging (about 15% of battery) and crashed. Then forced reboot (hold power button for about 10 seconds) helped while phone was connected to Yota charger, battery was dead, but phone booted (EPD on, did not check rest) and got to about 81%. After removing it from charger, same thing happened again, no luck with forced reboot this time. Phone was blazing hot and did not respond, then crashed again. No response after connecting charger or forced reboot. Any experience with this issue appreciated.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It seems a battery issue. Have your Yotaphone a valid warranty?

casaprocida said:
It seems a battery issue. Have your Yotaphone a valid warranty?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I am not sure about my warranty, bought it off AliExpress, I guess I could try to send it to manufacurer (i heard Russia provides repair service).
EDIT ( t + 2 days): I managed to start my Yota again. I connected it to computer and after about 5 minutes, magic happened and phone started all by itself. I will try to find out more, will update this as soon as I find something

Man, you are more lucky than me, I have a dead yotaphone lying around here. It also died after connecting it to a bad power source.
In my case it was the usb-port of a monitor.
When I checked the usb-port with a cable with a volt/amp display I saw that it was going on and off very quickly.
But so I would say be careful where you connect your yotaphone to, it does not seem to handle weird power sources all too well.

tomgaga said:
Man, you are more lucky than me, I have a dead yotaphone lying around here. It also died after connecting it to a bad power source.
In my case it was the usb-port of a monitor.
When I checked the usb-port with a cable with a volt/amp display I saw that it was going on and off very quickly.
But so I would say be careful where you connect your yotaphone to, it does not seem to handle weird power sources all too well.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I actually thought about burning charging circuitry a lot. I wonder, if you would be able to test wireless charging. With some luck, it is independent enough to not be affected by burning micro usb charging route (depends where high voltage safety is implemented). If this make any sense to you, please give this a try (I think IKEA is place to go, they should have working wireless chargers in their model setups) and report back. If I am wrong in any aspect, I'd appreciate any correction with explanation.

SuperTukan said:
I actually thought about burning charging circuitry a lot. I wonder, if you would be able to test wireless charging. With some luck, it is independent enough to not be affected by burning micro usb charging route (depends where high voltage safety is implemented). If this make any sense to you, please give this a try (I think IKEA is place to go, they should have working wireless chargers in their model setups) and report back. If I am wrong in any aspect, I'd appreciate any correction with explanation.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry for the late reply, did not see the quote, but it does not work with wireless charging either. I think the battery still has a lot of charge too. Thing is that the Motherboard also gets hot after a while when I try to charge it. I'm pretty sure my motherboard is dead. But I have another Yotaphone now, so maybe in the future I will test with every separable part replaced.

I use the charger from my iphone. It works great, although with the yotacharger also works well. Attention that I have a YotaPhone YD201 with Russian base and european compilation. Like I said the Iphone charger works great and doesn't warm my Yotaphone 2 . It might be a solution for your problems with charging.