HTC 8525 Pre-Purchase Questions - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

Im going to purchase 1 of these this week end just have some questions as to what other programs i can add to it to get full use out of its capabilities.
also how is the interface on this model?
would you recommend it?
i assume it has programs like an audio recorder, messaging etc all stock installed but still can add more programs like aim right?
how fast does do the internet pages load up using a wireless network? does it have any problems running the net?
sorry for th 100 questions...
thanks

A Few Questions
posted this in general section then realised it would probably be better off here, sorry for making this thread twice, wont happen again

thanks for the help, once again sorry for the 2 threads.
Those are great speeds, this may sound stupid but since it runs windows any chance of being about to run a torrent client on it? probably an idiotic question but i dont know much about windows mobiles, cant hurt to ask

Anybody else care to throw in 2 cents before i make a decision on purchasing it or not?

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HTC-progs without rom-exchange, cid?

I'd like to upgrade my Artemis without flashing my device with some more or less experimental rom. (Especially as there also is the question of using the right language).
HTC-progs like bio settings, cube, streaming etc must be available as standalone progs too, don't they?
So my set of questions goes like this:
1. where to get those progs?
2. do they slower the device more than the integated tool in some rom?
3. one reason not to flash at first was hardly no information about 'CID'. Can anyone provide? As this question arose in different places but got no real response (or didn't I get it as a newby?), I dare to ask myself.
Could someone please help me?
I even was about to get some spd.software, but obviously all these progs can do, can be obtaine 'for free', only by the cost of investing time and interest. I'm willing to do so, so let me hear from you...
thx

Immersed in Information (and drowning!)

Hello All,
First off, I want to thank everyone whos cooked and added information on these forums.
Also I want to state beforehand that for the past 3 days I have gone through countless pages of threads to try and learn as much as I can on ROMs & the such.... its a lot of info! Thats not so much the problem, as I have a pretty good idea now on how to do it (though haven't decided on a custom ROM yet), but the problem is some of it so scattered you can easily have 20 tabs open and either get confused or something.
I have been unable to find (and if there is forgive me for not searching well enough), a thread, topic, or FAQ which would state where you can get programs (ie. Windows Live/Messenger, Internet Sharing, etc) that some ROMs remove. Thats really what has held me back so far from flashing a new ROM, as I really like some of these, but they might be missing certain things I would need (like messenger, or even maybe 5 fav?) but I can't find exact information on all of this.
Edit: I understand if I want to find a program I can just Google it. But what if I don't know theres this awesome program I have never tried or heard before? Can't google a program I don't know! That's why I ask if there is a thread, site that would list them all, or a good amount. I know there couple threads here and there that display default HTC ones, and maybe some odd others.
If anyone can please help me out, or direct me where I can find more info on this I would be really grateful! I might have future questions from then on but i'll definitely be searching to keep the asking to a minimum.
One other question I do have right now is the Radio version. I know theres a thread on a current version, but I see some ppl already have a version higher than that.. is there a place where you can find the current version always, and also, when u flash ROM, does that update your Radio too.. or is it seperate?
Thank you in advance all who help!
I really do hope to be part of this community.
Well I took the dive (woot!) and HARDSPL my phone succesfully. Just finished flashing the default OEM rom and upgrading to the newest radio as well without any problems thanks to all the info you guys provided.
I can't wait to get home (where I have really bad reception) and see if this truely helped me. Im in the mood now to play with all your ROMs as well (I feel like a kid at christmas).
Update: Flashed Open 7.7 and loving it. just need to get used to this brave new world..
Status:
Play and get used to this!
My only concern, and one i cannot find so far is.. at the moment i have no MyFav program.. if i call my currents fav i had will T-Mobile still know, or do i have to have the myfav program installed on my phone so i don't get my minutes charged for calling them?
New concern is i keep getting a text from "4670" saying WCI 1.1 111 every so often, is that normal when you get this program?
Another question: When I install programs, must they always be installed ON the Device, or can I install them on the Storage Card? If i do will they work fine? (or some u can, some u can't.. and some examples)?
Sorry for all the questions!
I install all my programs to storage card. haven't had any problems there. I deleted myfavs because t-mobile stores your favs on their system, so when you call a fav their system should recognize the number. the myfavs program uses memory is why I deleted it.
the text you are getting I don't know what to tell you on that.
sounds like you have the rest down pretty good
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How did you delete the my fav program? any assistance would be helpful

So many questions

Im sorry but this may be a long post and I dont even know if it goes here..
I had a wing about 1 year ago and i sold it because i had no idea that this web site even here and i had no idea how to use it. I mainly got rid of it because it was really slow and the touch screen you had to use that stylus. Now that I found this website I want to get the wing again. I have been reading and reading for like the past week and i read the guides and for some reason I still dont understand how to flash new roms and everything. so im wondering if someone would be willing to help me step by step over aim or something when i get my wing sometime with in the next week.
also i see a lot of people are having problems with the wing with applications not working and sms and mms and all other things not working and all that.. is that something that happens when you flash a new rom or what is the cause?
also is there a facebook or myspace application i can put on my wing? i am addicted to facebook and myspace..
also if a new rom is flashed would i still be able to download applications from other websites like handago and they will still work with the rom?
I think thats all the questions that i have.. if i have more i will post something else. Thanks in advance for the responses that i may get! everything is appreciated.
abenaa said:
Im sorry but this may be a long post and I dont even know if it goes here..
I had a wing about 1 year ago and i sold it because i had no idea that this web site even here and i had no idea how to use it. I mainly got rid of it because it was really slow and the touch screen you had to use that stylus. Now that I found this website I want to get the wing again. I have been reading and reading for like the past week and i read the guides and for some reason I still dont understand how to flash new roms and everything. so im wondering if someone would be willing to help me step by step over aim or something when i get my wing sometime with in the next week.
also i see a lot of people are having problems with the wing with applications not working and sms and mms and all other things not working and all that.. is that something that happens when you flash a new rom or what is the cause?
also is there a facebook or myspace application i can put on my wing? i am addicted to facebook and myspace..
also if a new rom is flashed would i still be able to download applications from other websites like handago and they will still work with the rom?
I think thats all the questions that i have.. if i have more i will post something else. Thanks in advance for the responses that i may get! everything is appreciated.
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1 app
havent run into an app that is solely for for those but i use opera mini its free and works wonderful for other web pages as well
2 install
yep the chef who cooks the roms here do not lock installations on aps
so any rom that i put on there i can put any applications on there that i want also?
also for the touch roms does it make it easier to use your finger? i remember when i had the wing before i always had to use the stylus.. anyone out there willing to help me when i get my wing to flash the roms..
I wish that there were more pictures on here of the roms so i will know what i am flashing.
that is a question of the interface usually u will still have to use the stylus but some of the roms UI are finger friendly
for question 1 yes
for question 2 im available to help usually anytime around 9pm est (thats when i get home from work lol) im pretty sure that there is ppl out the who is willing to help as well
thanks.. what is the best way to get ahold of you?? i will def. be needing someones help
i will setup yahoo in a little bit that should be the best way to reach me
ok that would be great
i got a Question um with cooked rom for the tmobile wing have a working myfave bc i flashed the manilla rom and i cant get myface tab to work
if i remember manilla will not work with the fav 5 today icon since it doesnt support them

Very Very very important matter

hi guyz
i donno if i posted this in the right section but
i realy need to talk to someone with lots of experiance and already have Htc touch HD phone cuz i have some problems and i found no answer for them while searching maybe cuz iim noob in searching
i just got the phone yesterday
i realy need some help
if any of the ppl who reading my post now experianced enough plz pm me ur e-mail cuz i need to contact u thru msn or yahoo
please help =\ i realy need it so bad
thanks
Moved thread.
I would suggest that you start by reading the wiki.
...or even just explaining what the problem is.
MacDegger said:
...or even just explaining what the problem is.
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If you post your problem, many "experts" can help you and maybe others will benefit from the advice. There is something inherently selfish about asking for private help in a public forum.
Welcome to the forum!
This forum is meant to be a community where everyone helps, everyone is helped and everyone learns something in the process. It is not really a place to find your own private tech support.
We all enjoy helping each other. Post your problem and it is likely that many people will contribute. That way other people will also benefit in the future if they experience the same problem and they can read about it in this forum.
So, let us know what your problem is and we'll all try to find the best solution for you.
And one last thing, on your very first post in a forum, it's not a great idea to ask people for their personal email to contact them.
If you want private support you pay for it.
So, please go to your local phoneshop and pay them.
Or pay someone on this forum to help you personally. For example, 25-50 euro per hour is a reasonable fee.
There is no free lunch. You have not given the community anything, so why would anyone care about you so much that they would go out of their way to give you personal support for free? Sorry, but you are very naive.
Also, next time please try to name the topic informatively.
easy guyz i didnt know that im new on forum !
anyways i solved some of the problem i got but here is what is left
1
i cant put avi movies it says cannot play this file..so i readed that blackstone dont play avi and it play wma but i cant find wma version of videos anyone can help me to know where to get videos of movies that work on blackstone ?
2
when i send messages to someone it says Error Synchronizing i cant send a single message to anyone since i got htc touch hd
3
even before i bought the phone i was searching for themes for the blackstone but i cant find any all posts i read was about ppl requesting themes i would appreciate if someone tell me where to get themes fot the blackstone
this is what i need help for to be honest from what i sow from replies im confused i found the forum from searching someone said that i will find what i need here so i registered and welling to be active member but umm im very busy in real life and working alot and have only 1 hour to spend on internet so i didnt check the whole forum yet what i want to know if this forum for pros and experts only or for anyone cuz someone replied and said i have to pay for private help i thought then that my problems r silly and shouldnt even post them so if u dont solve this kind of problems i got, feel free to delete my post
and thanks for everything
Alaamai said:
easy guyz i didnt know that im new on forum !
anyways i solved some of the problem i got but here is what is left
1
i cant put avi movies it says cannot play this file..so i readed that blackstone dont play avi and it play wma but i cant find wma version of videos anyone can help me to know where to get videos of movies that work on blackstone ?
2
when i send messages to someone it says Error Synchronizing i cant send a single message to anyone since i got htc touch hd
3
even before i bought the phone i was searching for themes for the blackstone but i cant find any all posts i read was about ppl requesting themes i would appreciate if someone tell me where to get themes fot the blackstone
this is what i need help for to be honest from what i sow from replies im confused i found the forum from searching someone said that i will find what i need here so i registered and welling to be active member but umm im very busy in real life and working alot and have only 1 hour to spend on internet so i didnt check the whole forum yet what i want to know if this forum for pros and experts only or for anyone cuz someone replied and said i have to pay for private help i thought then that my problems r silly and shouldnt even post them so if u dont solve this kind of problems i got, feel free to delete my post
and thanks for everything
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First of all - no, your problems are not silly - and this forum is for EVERYONE. Sorry if it seemed that everyone was ganging up on you. We all understand that you don't have a ton of time to spend on the forum. Some people have more time than others and that is totally normal. People in this forum are from all walks of life - young to old, and from all different jobs and professions. A couple of us are in the medical field and we like to volunteer our time doing computer stuff on the side. So, don't feel bad - post whatever question and spend whatever time you can here.
With that said, you should also keep in mind that often times using the search function in the forum (and even the "search this particular forum" option) can answer you question right away and can save the forum from having threads with repeating topics. I know that you don't always find things via search. It has happened to me that I don't find anything, and then someone else shows me an old thread about something I was asking. But in trying the search function as an initial step is always good. It makes the forum more effective.
Now to answer some of your questions.
1. That is a topic that you'll need to spend some time in. Yes, you can play different kinds of video files, but you might need other software for some types of files. And depending on the video, you might need to convert it to an encoding that can be played better on the HD. Things like encoding, bitrate and resolution all play a role here. Like I said, this is a big topic you are dealing with here. This thread has everything you need to know about that. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446366
If you need to convert videos, then SUPER is a great free program. All the info is in the link above.
2. What kind of message are you talking about? Text message (sms) or email?
3. I don't know too much about themes, but I know there are some out there. Try searching the forum for HD themes. Or maybe someone else here who knows more than I do can point you in a direction.
Anyway, I hope this helps a bit. Your first question is something that will just take time to understand and eventually master. I knew little about it until I read that thread I posted. So, just give yourself some time and take the advice for settings given in that post.
Once again, we really are glad you joined the forum. We are all one big family of HD people eager to discover more about our nice little device, and you will find that people here are very helpful.
Cheers
Chris Cross said:
First of all - no, your problems are not silly - and this forum is for EVERYONE. Sorry if it seemed that everyone was ganging up on you. We all understand that you don't have a ton of time to spend on the forum. Some people have more time than others and that is totally normal. People in this forum are from all walks of life - young to old, and from all different jobs and professions. A couple of us are in the medical field and we like to volunteer our time doing computer stuff on the side. So, don't feel bad - post whatever question and spend whatever time you can here.
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nicely said,
sometimes i do not ask for help as i have read post where the reply was "why dont you use the search feature etc."
with me, when i am looking for a answer to a problem i start with one search and then i find a link to another thread after a few hours i do not know what i was looking for or i do not find the answer, it is here on this forum, but hard to find especilly when you have some threads on 50 or 111 pages and some tech terms are not known.
the Wiki is a great place to start and most of the answers are there, but not all.
i got my touch HD just before Christmas, i had a MDA Compact IV, tried most of the software that i had on that phone and some of it did not work, so i had to start from scratch, wasnt sure about the phone at the start only upgraded as i had run out of storage space on the Compact IV as the Touch HD had a storgae card.
Now all blinged up as my firends would put it, this phone it great, cost a lot but well worth it.
i am not knocking the members on this forum as they have produce great programs for us to use, and have solved many problems, but not everyone is a expert on this forum, and when 111 pages of discustions were posted and a problem resloved, this member was not known to this forum, so he is starting from fresh and would like a little help as some members would kindly give.
nice responses from senior members.
I would also suggest that the title be changed.?
It is not as stated a very very very importand matter except only for the newmember.
Thanks.
when i send messages to someone it says Error Synchronizing i cant send a single message to anyone since i got htc touch hd
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I dont think I have seen this error with anything other than email. What I have expereinced when this happens can be 2 things. First, when I set up email it takes a few hours for some unknown reason to start retrieving email.
The other time I see this is when I forget to set the right connection while setting email up. I am with att so when I set mine up I need to make sure I tell email to connect using Media.net in the drop down menu under advanced settings. Hope this helps you on that topic.
wahh chriss cross thnx for the replay and the help .. i thought when i go to check back the post someone was going to start insulting me with noob and stuff like that thisi s what i thought cuz i didnt find alot of friendly persons on forums genraly anyways thank you very much
i will start to look at the link u gave me about the 1st problem
and about msging im talking about " SMS " when i try to send SMS it says "Your messege cannot be sent" and in the bottom of the screen it says "Error Synchronizing"
thanks again
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i did read the post that was made by "tnyynt" that u sent to me about video problem i didnt understand a sh**
Alaamai said:
....and about msging im talking about " SMS " when i try to send SMS it says "Your messege cannot be sent" and in the bottom of the screen it says "Error Synchronizing"
thanks again
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no worries - I think the attacks are history.
Anyway, here are some more questions:
1. Can you receive sms?
2. Can you call and receive calls without any problem?
3. Have you installed anything that could be affecting things?
EDIT: By the way, here is a link to this forum's Wiki with HD tips. It might be helpful for you in general to become more and more familiar with your new HD. So far we have 43 tips and I'm sure the list will keep growing. And here is a link the to Wiki for programs working and not working on the HD. Both of those are updated whenever something new comes up.
About SMS
Are you sending sms using the e-mail tab in the TouchFLO 3D?
Chris Cross said:
no worries - I think the attacks are history.
Anyway, here are some more questions:
1. Can you receive sms?
2. Can you call and receive calls without any problem?
3. Have you installed anything that could be affecting things?
EDIT: By the way, here is a link to this forum's Wiki with HD tips. It might be helpful for you in general to become more and more familiar with your new HD. So far we have 43 tips and I'm sure the list will keep growing. And here is a link the to Wiki for programs working and not working on the HD. Both of those are updated whenever something new comes up.
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Alaamai said:
hi guyz
i donno if i posted this in the right section but
i realy need to talk to someone with lots of experiance and already have Htc touch HD phone cuz i have some problems and i found no answer for them while searching maybe cuz iim noob in searching
i just got the phone yesterday
i realy need some help
if any of the ppl who reading my post now experianced enough plz pm me ur e-mail cuz i need to contact u thru msn or yahoo
please help =\ i realy need it so bad
thanks
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HI Alamaai,
i disagree with some harsh answers. However, it is important to understand that the difference between this forum and HTC Support is the same difference between a self-service and a restaurant with waiters. the food is here and is for free, but nobody is supposed to take you the dishes and you have to walk around and find the food you need. if you really don't find the food, and it is a large restaurant, then you can ask somebody that will probably give you the right hint if we build/add additional information interesting to everybody else.
Nobody here is paid to do this, and we all invest our own private free time to build information which is useful to ourselves.
So...welcome to the XDA self-service! food is great, fellows are nice!
...and this email contributes in building information: if you would have SEARCHED for it, you wouldn't have created your thread!
All the best!
hey sms works now it was from the number that i have to put in sms service
thanks
pzucchel said:
HI Alamaai,
i disagree with some harsh answers. However, it is important to understand that the difference between this forum and HTC Support is the same difference between a self-service and a restaurant with waiters. the food is here and is for free, but nobody is supposed to take you the dishes and you have to walk around and find the food you need. if you really don't find the food, and it is a large restaurant, then you can ask somebody that will probably give you the right hint if we build/add additional information interesting to everybody else.
Nobody here is paid to do this, and we all invest our own private free time to build information which is useful to ourselves.
So...welcome to the XDA self-service! food is great, fellows are nice!
...and this email contributes in building information: if you would have SEARCHED for it, you wouldn't have created your thread!
All the best!
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i can understand how enoying it can be for users to be asked the smae questions, but sometimes it helps to be pointed in the right direction.
when i do ask for help i do not except all the work to be done for me, but sometimes i might not know where to look or someone else on this forum has read or seen a thread relating to my problem.
A user was asking how can he get analogue clocks on his Touch HD.
it can not be done at the moment but i saw a thread where a user installed a Wa2 theme for his phone which had a annalogue clock, all i did was show him the thread, it would have been the last place he would have looked as it was posted in the "Post Your HD Screens" thread.
a little help goes a long way.
A basic intro to video conversion
Alaamai said:
hey sms works now it was from the number that i have to put in sms service
thanks
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Yeah -
Glad to hear it got solved.
And now in terms of the video thing, here is a basic introduction.
PLEASE SEE UPDATED VERSION OF THIS POST IN THE WIKI
Keep in mind I am absolutely no expert - and so the video experts here might cringe at my explanation. So if any of you experts out there want to correct me - PLEASE DO - I always like learning new things.
Okay, different things affect how your HD will play a video. The more the processor is pushed to its limits the poorer the quality you will see when playing a video. So, the trick is to find a happy medium between some of the main contributers to quality and processor drain.
1. The bitrate (kbps) is a measure for how much data information is being processed per second. The higher this number, the better the picture, but it also means the processor needs to work harder.
2. The resolution (or scale size) refers to the number of pixels (width x height) that the video will be shown in (at a natural 100% zoom). The higher the resolution, the clearer the picture - but also more work for the HD.
3. The frames per second (fps): A video is basically made up of a bunch of individual frames (or pictures) that are played really fast one after the other. You will often see settings between 23 and 30 fps. I have to say that I don't really see much difference here. However, sometimes if the audio is not properly synchronized with the video after you have done the conversion, they recommend you check what the fps of the original video was, and then keep it the same on your settings for conversion.
4. The aspect ratio is basically the shape the video will be in. 3:4 is your standard TV type size, while 16:9 or 16:10 are common wide screen formats. I personally like the wide screen formats. There are other aspect ratios, but these are the really common ones. Ideally you want an aspect ratio that will be as close as possible to the aspect ratio of the monitor or screen that you will be viewing the video it. That way it just fits nicer.
5. And finally the audio encoding. It also has different settings. Basically four things:
Type of encoding (for example mp3, AC3 or AAC etc.)
Bitrate (kbps - same concept as in video bitrate): Common is around 128kbps
Sampling frequency (in Herz: Hz): Common is 44100 Hz
Mono (1 channel) vs. Stereo (2 channels) sound. There is also 6-channels for surround sound, but that won't do much on your HD.
So, there you have the main things that you should be familiar with. And now, all those settings can be packaged up in different ways. That brings us to the OUTPUT settings for conversion. The goal is to achieve the smallest possible file size with the best possible video quality.
You can look at it as a container that holds a specific formula or encoding inside. Container formats are, for example, .avi, .mp4 and many others. However, the "formula" inside these containers can vary a lot. That is the "encoding" or "codec". Some examples are divx, xvid, MPEG-4, .h263, .h264 etc. So, two different videos might both have file names ending in .avi (the container), but have a totally different encoding inside that container. One might be an xvid and the other one an MPEG-4 - or whatever.
If you use SUPER to convert videos, you see how it is nicely broken up into the different categories for you to choose settings. See the picture I attached. You can either play with different settings, or you can use settings that other people have posted and said they worked well for them.
The HD is limited as to what it can play. So depending on the container and codec used, you can use the HD's album program to play the video or you might need third-party programs like CorePlayer (for example to play divx). The thread I posted earlier shows what different people have tried and how their experience was when using the HD's native album player, or the HD's Windows Media Player or third-party software like CorePlayer.
There is one more thing... called "hardware acceleration". It is a technology that greatly improves how smooth a video is, especially in fast scenes with lots of movement. It involves a piece of hardware (hardware accelerator - like a graphics card) as opposed to just the software. The HD is equipped with this technology, and so its native player can use it. However, programs like CorePlayer don't support the use of a hardware accelerator yet - but CorePlayer has the advantage of being able to play codecs (like divx) that the HD alone cannot play. It's all a give-and-take trying to see what works best.
I tried several players and ended up staying with the HD's native album player with its hardware acceleration. But to get the best quality I end up having to convert most of my videos, and that can be quite time consuming. Everyone has different opinions on that. Some people love CorePlayer.
Sooo, I hope this basic introduction helps you understand other threads a bit better. If you have questions - just ask. I'm not an expert in this, but other people here are pretty knowledgeable when it comes to that.
Cheers
Chris Cross said:
Yeah -
Glad to hear it got solved.
And now in terms of the video thing, here is a basic introduction.
Keep in mind I am absolutely no expert - and so the video experts here might cringe at my explanation. So if any of you experts out there want to correct me - PLEASE DO - I always like learning new things.
......
Cheers
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Chris, that reads well hopw about a wiki page for it.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Wiki_Development
HDuser said:
Chris, that reads well how about a wiki page for it.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Wiki_Development
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Thank you. And yes, if it will help others - then I'd gladly do a wiki for it. I've never done a wiki before (I've only edited them) - so I don't really know where or how one is made. But, I'll check out your link.
EDIT: Thanks HDuser for the fixing the formatting.
Here is the link to the new wiki regarding this topic.

[Q] Windows mobile

Hi noob here, just wondered after reading some reviews on HD mini, what the best thing to do is when I get the phone?
Its just now ive purchased this phone, i have found that the OS windows is slow laggy, could anyone point me in the direction or tell me the best way to mod it out so its performance is the best it can be.....
apologies if i have posted in the wrong section or have asked something that is already ina thread
any info appreciated
hi
best way to mod it : start with cooking your own ROM,search here for os kitchen and learn how it works
good luck
A simple way to boost up the speed is to remove all unnecessary tabs from the homescreen. They may look pretty, but in time, you'll find many of them practically useless.
Windows Mobile itself can handle SMS quite well. I've tried keeping more than 20,000 in my old device (Asus P750), and it barely slow down.
But it's different with the addition of HTC's Sense. HTC Messaging can handle around a few hundred messages with noticeable lag. Give it 1,000 messages, and it struggles. If you don't need to keep messages, delete as often as you can. And try to limit the number of contacts too.

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