Battery drain TyTn - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

All,
I am experiencing serious battery drain on my TyTn. WiFi and Bluetooth are disabled and 100% charged battery drains overnight. This can't be normal even with 3G. Does anyone else experience this?

For me this is normal for 3G. My TyTN will last roughly 24 hours with UMTS/3G turned on, and 3-4 days with 3G turned off...

Not even lasting that long
Mine isn't lasting that long... How do u turn 3g off?

Phone -> Menu -> Options -> Band (?) -> Set it from auto to "GSM".

Use bandswitch. It will do the change very fast.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=286844&highlight=bandswitch

I think the Battery Drain problem relates to always on 3G connection. Infact I had also configured Outlook Software to check and download the emails from my POP3 Server after every 15 minutes. Apart from that, I was not using the Internet connectivity for any other application. But still around 10 to 15 percent of the Battery was getting consumed every Hour and which was quite high.
I have now Hard Reset my PDA and configured the PDA to only use GPRS (i.e. GSM) for checking the emails after every 15 minutes. I have not installed any additional Software after Hard Reset and now I am using the PDA as per the default factory settings. Only Outlook is checking the emails after every 15 minutes.
Now the Battery consumption has been around 30% in the last 12 Hours (i.e. from 100% to 70%). During this period, I have not received any calls and I have not used my PDA for any other purpose.
Kindly advise if the above consumption is normal or is it still on the higher side.
Many Thanks.

this looks normal to me. i do about 20-30% for a day depending on the amount of mail I get. this is through GPRS of course. 3G seems to suck battery at least 100% faster

It also depends on the Radio you have installed. I had 1.18 and experienced a heavy drain on 3G along with other users who upgraded to the RSA 1.35 ROM release. Since moving on to the 1.27 radio my battery consumption is now acceptable again.
Maybe this assists.

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I have a battery drainage problem too. I wish I can say mine drains within 12 hours. Once fully charged @ 100%, removed the charger, it drops 1% or so every 10-20 secs until ~80%. There onwards, if I use the phone, it drops drastically 5-10% each time I talk depending on the length of the conversation (most conversation barely reach 5 minutes.) If not used, it will drain the remainder within 6-8 hours. I tried changing a new batter and flashing with different ROMs and radios from this site but it doesn't seem to be helping. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

I also expirienced battery drainage at my Hermes. What i do is i turn off my 3g and set my email send recieve to 30 minutes..
I noticed that when i have my data connection always on, it has a high persentage of battery drain..

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Is it my battery ONLY? Lasts barely a day

as above! this is making me crazy...
at most it is just moderate use. some calling some texting some opera mini-ing
and it is under GSM. Not 3G.
After 24 hours. I barely clock 20%.
Whats wrong with the battery?
leobox1 said:
as above! this is making me crazy...
at most it is just moderate use. some calling some texting some opera mini-ing
and it is under GSM. Not 3G.
After 24 hours. I barely clock 20%.
Whats wrong with the battery?
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Hey Leobox,
There could be a plenty of factors involved:
1. Constant use of GPRS to update weather.
2. Some SD cards use up the battery.
3. Make sure that your internet connection is not on generally
4. Finally, use BSB tweaks for power management.
Hope this helps.
Cheers!
I have problem with my battery life as well. Mine barely lasted a whole day. All I did was 150 sms and typing in Microsoft Word and nothing else. Brightness was set to automatic.
And yes it's truly disappointing especially coming from HTC Touch HD.
jlingo said:
I have problem with my battery life as well. Mine barely lasted a whole day. All I did was 150 sms and typing in Microsoft Word and nothing else. Brightness was set to automatic.
And yes it's truly disappointing especially coming from HTC Touch HD.
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jlingo said:
I have problem with my battery life as well. Mine barely lasted a whole day. All I did was 150 sms and typing in Microsoft Word and nothing else. Brightness was set to automatic.
And yes it's truly disappointing especially coming from HTC Touch HD.
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as mentioned in my previous post.. the battery of HD2 seems to be ok.. a fren who is a power user has it.. generally this is what he does:
Full charge in the morning
Day use:
Approx 90-100 mins of call
15-20 mins of browsin
30 odd mins of music play
150 odd daily messages
15-20 mins of push mail
from 100% at about 8AM in the morning to about 25% in the evening at about 11PM.
I think thats pretty good
i have weather set to 6 hours.
yes my data connection is on.. but i do not surf.. will that kill battery>?
leobox1 said:
i have weather set to 6 hours.
yes my data connection is on.. but i do not surf.. will that kill battery>?
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Thats the culprit
why will it kill .. i do not surf.. it is just on.. and it is only GPRS .. no 3g
with regard to data connection. do we have to manually turn it off in the settings page or is there a way to make it turn itself off when its idle.
what ROM are you on?
I was originally on 1.48 ROM and had pretty bad battery drain problems too.
Most i got was about 1 day on average usage (couple calls and texts with browsing and slight GPS)
But i upgraded to 1.61 and i can honestly get 2-3 days now, no joke!
On hard usage about 1.5 days, but its still much better than before.
So if u want u can try upgrading to 1.61 and see how that works out for you
After struggling with the battery life for last 10 days I figured the real culprit to be the SD card. from day 1 I had 4GB SD card and the response was always slow while browsing the storage card or using Music and Photo tabs in SENSE.
I replaced the SD card yesterday night with original 2 GB card. I had 54 percent yesterday night and after 16 Hours I am still at 33 percent. (even with 25 mins call and some use of phone).
Seems the problem is resolved. Hope this helps to all who have battery problem.
leobox1 said:
why will it kill .. i do not surf.. it is just on.. and it is only GPRS .. no 3g
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You are correct- a data connection turned on but not exchanging data uses minimal power as it's simply part of the GSM/3G service. However, if it is on, then some programs can use the connection for active data transfer which will use some power.
If you stick with GSM, rather than 3G, the battery hit is even less. Most battery usage when 3G is on results from the hunting between protocols when the 3G signal level is poor, though a good 3G connection uses less power than a stable GSM connection.
yes been thinking about updating the ROM. im on the o2 1.43 rom.
I still dont get the data connection though. even if i manually turn it off, something turns it back on i pressume its Twitter or weather. but why does it not disconnect itself afterwards?
i also have a question about the battery: is it normal that the battery drains 2-3 % per 10 minutes while listening radio?? screen is off, no data connection! this makes me crazy..
I'm using 1.48 ROM. It only lasts about a day .
waxfresh said:
i also have a question about the battery: is it normal that the battery drains 2-3 % per 10 minutes while listening radio?? screen is off, no data connection! this makes me crazy..
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I also have a Omina II, and whilst I appreciate it has a larger capacity battery and only 800mhz processor, I could listen to the fm radio for an hour and the battery would drop 1% Max. The omina does throttle down the processor for less demanding apps.
I had problem with G-Alarm. When in standby the HD2 use only 4-5mA in GSM/GPRS (no 3G) but when opening and closing G-Alarm, the HD2 was using in standby 80mA average.
I found that overnight it was discharging my battery around 40% (from 89% to 45% in 7hours). Then after disinstalling it I come back to normal discharge rate of around 4% overnight.
I think that G-Alarm and maybe some other softwares are not fully compatibles with the HD2 and after you open it (and close it with task manager, so not still open in background) there is a bug that let the HD2 not fully in standby, also if the screen stay off. In this situation the processor is still active and drain the battery faster. The only way to recover from this, is with softreset.
Perhaps apart from network usage / 3G / wifi / microSD etc. there are some programs developed for previous WM devices that are not 100% compatibles with HD2 and don't fully put on standby the device after you used it (also if closed with task manager) draining faster the battery.
Hi!
Which version do you use of G-Alarm?
I have not noticed this at all, and when i quit G-Alarm it quits and can't be found in taskmanager.
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Hi!
Which version do you use of G-Alarm?
I have not noticed this at all, and when i quit G-Alarm it quits and can't be found in taskmanager.
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I tried the 2.3 version. When I was testing it, when closing it, it was not dispaying on task manager also for me, but after that the battery was draining quicker during standby. After I disinstalled it, the draining of battery during standby comeback to normal (4-5mA).
I use battery log to check battery draining.
It's a very powerful smartphone folks, my battery barely lasts a day either. I have to charge my HD2 every 20 hours-or-so. Stop comparing the battery drain on this handset to an old phone you just used for texting and making calls! Every smartphone I've owned drained the battery within a day if I actually used it for more than calls and texting. If you turn the data connection off and turn the 3G to GSM, you will experience much longer battery life....but then you won't be using the phone for anything much will you?

Terrible battery life

Hi -
I've had my HTC HD2 a few days and although I'm happy with it's features, I'm really frustrated by the poor battery life. The first day I used it the battery was dead within under 12 hours from me starting to use it, and at the start it was fully charged. On this first day I did have email and weather etc on auto check though.
So last night I disabled weather, set email to manual checking and disabled a few other things, but did leave HSDPA and 3G on. There was a slight improvement today but not much, the battery lasted the full 12 hours, but with only 2% remaining.
Both days I don't think my usage was very high. I'd maybe had 10 minutes of phone calls, sent around 10 text messages, listened to 45 minutes of music, checked one or two websites, and played games on the phone for about 15 minutes. Imagine how it would be when I need to make several calls in a day.
I have searched the forum for tips on improving battery life but the main suggestions seem to say that I should disable HSDPA and 3G but one of the main functions of the phone is internet usage and I don't see why I should how to switch to manually putting these settings on and off each time I want to use the internet, just so I can get a longer battery life - the battery should be able to cope with moderate usage!
Does anyone have any further suggestions?
Thank you
Look for an application called 'Bandswitch', it can disconnect idle connections. THis way 3G won't be enabled when you don't need it, should save some battery.
Disable automatic screen brightness and set it to something like 30%.
Disable location services and stuff.
Give the battery some cycles to reach full potential.
But of course, gaming, internetting and listening to music will drain the battery faster. It lasts about 2 days for me with moderate use (some internet, some playing around, etc) which is pretty fair imo.
dagrim1 said:
Look for an application called 'Bandswitch', it can disconnect idle connections. THis way 3G won't be enabled when you don't need it, should save some battery.
Disable automatic screen brightness and set it to something like 30%.
Disable location services and stuff.
Give the battery some cycles to reach full potential.
But of course, gaming, internetting and listening to music will drain the battery faster. It lasts about 2 days for me with moderate use (some internet, some playing around, etc) which is pretty fair imo.
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I'll give that a try. So will it automatically enable it when I start browsing the internet or something?
I already changed the screen brightness and disabled location services though. That didn't seem to make a big difference.
And how much difference does giving the battery some cycles make?
Thanks.
dagrim1 said:
Look for an application called 'Bandswitch', it can disconnect idle connections. THis way 3G won't be enabled when you don't need it, should save some battery.
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Sorry, but it doesn't work that way
Bandswitch can definitely do 2 things- it can disconnect idle connections, which will reconnect when needed, but this won't switch the transport between 3G and GSM, and has little effect on battery life
Or it can be used to manually change between 3G and GSM, using whichever is selected for its current transport and then autodisconnecting if required. It is the action of switching to GSM which has the most impact on battery life, but there is no way to switch automatically between to 2 as it needs a phone radio off/on to execute the switch.
Poor 3G signal conditions will hammer the battery because the phone will continually hunt for the strongest signal and switch constantly between modes. If your 3G signal is less than 2 bars I'd suggest switching it to GSM until you are in a stronger signal area. Do this by going to Phone/Menu/ then scroll down to Band and from there switch between Auto and GSM. If that makes a difference then you could install a small utility to make the switch easier to access.
seems very odd, mine was fully charged around 11pm last night, have sent around 20 texts, 20 mins calls, had wifi on, done some browsing, abit of sat nav and its on 68% 20 hours later.
I get at least 24 hours with moderate use. Most of the time i get around 30 hours.
I have weather and peep updating automatically + email retrieval at every hour.
When I first got mine it was lasting less than 12 hours too.
Now I'm on ROM 1.61 and have the following settings:
HSDPA disabled
Weather update every 3 hours
Twitter updates ever 1 hours (though it actually only updates when I scroll to the Peep tab)
Facebook auto updates - Off
Stock auto updates - off
Bluetooth and Wifi off unless needed.
Screen brightness - 30%
Haptic feeback, Vibration - off
Push Email - On
I'm getting over 24 hours of life out of a full charge now. I have got the push email set to manual updates only during off-peak hours ie when I'm sleeping. During the night the charge drops around 1% per hour. It was at 47% when I went to sleep last night and was 40% when I woke 7 hours later. This seems to be typical overnight drop for me.
Over my first few days of tinkering and setting up I found the battery drain to be massive. Once you settle down to regular usage it is a lot lot better.
However, just to be careful, I do now have a desk cradle at work so I can charge my phone if I have to.
Prior to my most recent hard-reset I found that if I left the phone in stand-by over night, with it checking for email every 5 minutes, and weather every 15 minutes, the battery would go from 100% to zero in less than nine hours. And that's without using it at all! As an experiment I tried turning off everything that could possibly be using the data connection, and turning off 3G, so nothing was running at all except the phone in 2G mode listening for calls and texts. It still burned 20% of the battery overnight in stand-by.
Since doing a hard reset, if I repeat the second experiment then I find that overnight battery drain is now only 4% - so clearly some piece of software that I had installed prior to the reset was hammering the battery even in stand-by. Quite what it was, I'm not sure yet. (My current prime suspects are the task manager and 1% battery status icons).
If you're having battery drain issues then I suggest doing a hard-reset and then not installing anything remotely controversial for a day or two to see if that sorts out the drain. If it does, then you can start reinstalling things gradually to see what difference each one makes.
NeilM said:
Sorry, but it doesn't work that way
Bandswitch can definitely do 2 things- it can disconnect idle connections, which will reconnect when needed, but this won't switch the transport between 3G and GSM, and has little effect on battery life
Or it can be used to manually change between 3G and GSM, using whichever is selected for its current transport and then autodisconnecting if required. It is the action of switching to GSM which has the most impact on battery life, but there is no way to switch automatically between to 2 as it needs a phone radio off/on to execute the switch.
Poor 3G signal conditions will hammer the battery because the phone will continually hunt for the strongest signal and switch constantly between modes. If your 3G signal is less than 2 bars I'd suggest switching it to GSM until you are in a stronger signal area. Do this by going to Phone/Menu/ then scroll down to Band and from there switch between Auto and GSM. If that makes a difference then you could install a small utility to make the switch easier to access.
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Oh, I misunderstood it then... thank you for clearing that up!
It's very interesting, to see the number of people who have battery draining problems. I have the french SFR ROM 1.44 and since the beginning found my battery life satisfying (I didn't expect long life, as my wife has to charge her iPhone every night).
My battery lasts in heavy use 24h (though it can go down to 18h when using internet by 3G/HSPDA for long period like 1h or more) and under "normal" daily use (checking e-mail regularly, 20 min phone calls, sending some SMS, 30 mins internet, 45 mins playing around / listening some music) around 1.5 days.
My settings are:
3G/HSDPA enabled
Weather update every 6 hours
Stock auto updates - every 8 hours
Bluetooth and Wifi off unless needed
Screen brightness - auto
Haptic feeback, Vibration - off
E-mail check: every 2 hours (POP3)
Faulty batteries? I think not....
Whilst I'm a master of google searching, I get worse results using the search facility on this forum than just using intuition.
Anyway, I just wanted to add my comments on battery life after owning a stock 1.43 phone from Vodafone UK. I was getting less than 8 hours life with everything on auto and making just a couple of shortish phone calls and a couple of quick browses. The rest of the time I was in standby and I thought that my phone was one of the worst out there. I had also installed Skype which I had running in the background which sometimes causes the phone not to go into auto-standby even though it would dim normally. I also noticed that I was in a very weak signal area and that my phone was constantly switching between 2G/3G/H which I understand can consume a lot of power. Also, I had stopped using wi-fi to see if that helped.
After reading a million threads, I decided to conduct an experiment last night. Usually if I charge the phone before going to sleep for 8 hours it is down to 70% when I wake up having been left in standby. So last night I disabled everything. Turned off 3G, data connections, My Location, Weather update, Stocks Update, FaceBook login, e-mail updates, Skype, bluetooth, wifi. In fact absolutely everything I could find that could be turned off except the basic 2G phone itself.
Guess what, I wake up 8 hours later... 96%.
16 hours later.... 81% with very light use.
Now I'm going to have to spend many days playing around with different settings to see which apps or functions are gobbling the power. I have a nasty feeling that the weak signal is half the problem
So cheer up! It's not ideal, but this is a brand new, smartfone with bugs - not a Nokia 6110. Higher capacity batteries and ROM updates will come. In the meantime you just have to figure out what is sucking up the juice on your HD2 and disable these functions if you don't need them or when you are not using them.
Good luck and enjoy it! The coolest phone around...
Rickster
Donations appreciated (That incompetent government and those reckless banks put me out of busines...)
Hello everyone,
like the majority of the owners of HD2, in order to optimise the duration of accumulator charge, I use Band connection control programs , to pass in 3G only when it is necessary. Thus, I have:
- phoneAlarm: to force the 2G mode the night, and also for differ quiet mode if I am in meeting, etc…. In particular, in the case which interests me there, I force the 2G the night and asks to pass to 2G the morning.
- WMlonglife (version for HD2): which normally loads himself to make the effective switch 2G towards 3G or 3G+ if an application program requiring it is launched, and otherwise to remain in 2G. It should be noted that WMlonglife has two applis, one for the configuration, and to make manually changes 2G 3G, WMbandswitch.
- recently, I tested Bandswitch v2.8
I meet the following phenomena, and I would like to know if others also have them, and/or if there are parameters to change so that it goes better.
Point A: Already some question about the icons of the bar of state in top.
There are always two icons side by side. Tell me if I interpret them well.
one with a letter: G= GSM, E= Edge, 3G = 3G, H = 3G+
This letter tellsonly that this kind of network is available, but it does not say that one is actually connected there. Is it well that?
To know in which mode one is actually connected, it is another icon, on its line, with the 1 to 4 bars of reception and a small letter, which should be looked at.
This small letter, it is “H " ==> connected in 3G+, “3G” ==> connected in 3G, “E” ==> connected in Edge
and finally a simple antenna, which I imagine wants to say that one is just connected in 2G, no data connection
Is what all that is correct?
Is there another mean of knowing in real-time the current mode of connexion (and thus mode of conso of the accumulator)?
Point B, use of Phonealarm:
like said in introduction, I force the 2G (mode GSM/GPRS) during the night, and to 6:00 of the morning, I pass it in mode “house” where I put “Car”, by also putting the pin number at it, because it seems that for this transition, one needs the pin number (is it the radio cycle on-off?)
There, the first thing, they is that every morning, when I unlock it I find myself with the screen for input of the pin number, where it is enough to make cancel (because the code already entered via PA and even already connected). Moreover, if one tries to enter a pin number, then he refuses the input.
on the other hand, at this time, the telephone seems to remain in Edge icon “E”, and does not pass in H. On the other hand, so there I reset, then he will connect to H with the boot
Have you also this history of pin number?
For hangs, it is as if WMlonglife did not take the hand to force a 3G mode or 3G+….
this brings me to the point C
Point C: WMbandswitch… after a software reset, my Tel. is connected automatically towards the 3G network (or 3G+) of orange. On the other hand the morning (after to automatic wake up through PA), it remains in E. When I test action manually a passage in 3G with WMbandswitch, it does not change anything. I tested with radio operator chip on Samsung, or Qualcomm (WCDMA). similar behavior….
To check out, I then loaded and installed Bandswitch 2.8, and tried to change into 3G, and there I see appearing the letter H. so, there is a difference with WMlonglife, which would seem to show that WMlonglife does not manage to make the switch towards 3G.
Which radio chip put in WMlonglife?
Have you to it even thing?
Poind D: use of bandswitch 2.8 (on xda): I tested. Hard to know if that is interfaced well with all the remainder. Of your experiment, which one would you advise? It does not have the system of “whitelist” like WMlonglife…
Here is, in synthesis, to summarise my questions
- Has: major significance of the icons
- B: phonealarm and switch of the 3G mode (after a forcing in 2G the night)
- C: WMbandswitch, and configuration/use for HD2
- D: alternative to WMlonglife?
For info, with normal use of browsing, email and phone, I drop of about 50% battery for 24h, that is not so bad, but I 'd like to make sure about the Bandswitch thing...
Thank you in advance for all…
vdelab

Battery Drain HD2?

Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.
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-4% during the night (when i'am sleeping)
MAXIMUM : 45/48 HOURS
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-4% during the night (when i'am sleeping)
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I wish I got 2 days
we really need extended battery ,hd1 battery was much more better.
Good mate but yes i agreee HTC has come up with a battery eating device this time around. My device on full charge just gives in around 8-10 hrs. This might be dat my EDGE is on and 7 mails accounts sending mails back and forth.
but truly i think that HTC better look into this very seriously cause more and more ppl are suffering in this battery drain..
Any of flashing roms and radio not helping either... did a complete hard reset but no step up
HTC come with longer battery battery for bigger devices soon......
The only solution i see now is get one of those extra battery worth mind bogling £52.87
I've had this problem ever since flashing to 1.66, I flashed the radio to 2.07.50.27 as this was said to solve the problem but it hasn't made any difference after a few days of use. My battery life used to be significantly better when I was on the original stock ROM, so much so I'm considering going back to it
I also know all the tricks as to clawing back the battery drain, my phone is idle on my desk at work most of the time and I don't use Wi-Fi, all the location stuff is turned off as are weather, stock and other updates plus my screen is set to 30% then off after 60 seconds. Despite all of that I lose 1% every 2-3 minutes
It seems to me that perhaps the radio is checking for reception pretty much constantly rather than say, 5-10 mins perhaps? This used to be a problem on my old Blackberry Storm but a few fimware updates solved it, eventually!
The only other thing I've noticed since the update is that once the battery drops below 50% or so, the drain seems to slow, I don't know if this is perhaps because the phone goes into some sort of semi-power saving mode?
Suggestions/hints welcome! I've had a semi-thorough look into this on the forums and tried most of the suggestions but still the problem remains. Will battery life improve after a few charges perhaps as this was a trait of my Storm's battery, the more you charged it the better the day to day battery life was (and no it wasn't because I had it plugged in all the time! Over time the general charge just seemed to improve when roaming).
Thanks!
Piemole said:
Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.
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You need to indicate what services you have running. Do you have any data services running eg: location services, push mail, weather? all of these have a bearing. In addition, network services can also drain a battery, especially if the signal is weak and the phone have to search for a transmitter, or 3g services.
Hexjibber said:
The only other thing I've noticed since the update is that once the battery drops below 50% or so, the drain seems to slow, I don't know if this is perhaps because the phone goes into some sort of semi-power saving mode?
Thanks!
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That is a very interesting comment. Although since upgrading to radio 2.07.51.05_2 I have had very good battery life, I too have noticed a slowdown after 50%
romac said:
You need to indicate what services you have running. Do you have any data services running eg: location services, push mail, weather? all of these have a bearing. In addition, network services can also drain a battery, especially if the signal is weak and the phone have to search for a transmitter, or 3g services.
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Nothing is turned on, everything is set to manual.
As I stated I know all the basic stuff. I understand that all these things have a bearing on battery loss.
Everything I stated in the first post is for when I have nothing running. The phone is just sitting there running sense, thats all.
I have had my HD2 for a few days now. I am on Vodacom in South Africa.
I have not had a problem with battery life.
Yesterday i unplugged from the charger at 07:00. I spent about 1 and 1/2 hours of talk time on the phone, it was permanently connected to 3g doing weather updates etc. Sent and received a couple of sms's. Also played with a few tweaks and reboots.
When i got home at about 18:00 i had over 30% battery. I then surfed the web for over 2 hours to drain the battery.
try setting Network Selection to Manual
Piemole said:
Anyone else experiencing excessive battery drain on their HD2?
I am interested to know if this is just my phone or if it actually just chews through that much juice.
I have had windows mobile phones for several years so I know all the basic ways to keep battery drain down.
Stuff that I have generally found:
1. If I keep the screen turned on without it going blank I lose about 1% every 2 minutes.
2. If I am browsing that figure almost doubles.
3. My old Touch HD used about 5% battery overnight when in standby but this phone will go through about 25%.
4. The phone gets really hot when browsing (much hotter than my old Touch HD)
I have tried flashing ROM's and Radios but nothing seems to help.
I am not running any software on the phone that I wasn't running on my old HD1.
I have only had the phone for a week so I am not sure if this is normal but I would be very surprised if HTC released a phone that lasts for only a few hours on one battery.
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Same here with and without stock ROM.
yeah.. the phone is a battery sucker.... another cons of HD2....
This is very interesting to read because I do not have this problem. When I left my HTC HD2 on last night (I woke up at 4 in the morning to get something to drink and unplugged it) and then woke up at 8, it was at 98%. That means it went from 100% to 98% in 4 hours. Not to bad imo.
I am now at work and it is 15:34, and I am at 87%. I have made some calls, watched some videos, send a few text messages. Not much (I am at work so I got other things to do). So 08:00 (98%) - 15:34 (87%) - that's 7 and a half hours, with some calls, text messages and a video.
I am pretty sure when I get home at 18:30 the battery will still be above 75%. Then I connect to my wifi at home, refresh twitter, weather, browse the web a little bit, check e-mail etc. So that will drain my battery a little more.
But overall I have not had any problems with my battery life. I always make it trough a day, and never have a problem like 'damn my battery is almost done and I am not near a charger'.
Some info that might help:
I do not sync ANYTHING automatically. I still have some things to do with my Vodafone contract and do not have an unlimited plan yet. I only sync at home on my own wifi connection. For me this is not a problem, because I only need to refresh the weather each morning to see what the day is going to be like. Twitter I only do when I have the time. Stocks I do not use.
I have screen brightness set to automatic.
I am on 3G most of the time.
I am running the official 1.66 Dutch ROM.
I have some tweaks, games and programs installed.
I hope you all solve this issue, because it just can not be that my HD2 has a good battery life, and your HD2 not
Kind Regards
EDIT @ 17:00 still 87%.
I am in a 3G 2100 only network (I don't have 2G functionality).
ROM: Artemis 3.0
Radio: 2.06.50.23_3
Customization: Seiya 6.5.5
I don't leave any automatic updates on, except for my e-mail account every 2 hrs.
I never close my connection.
The drainage overnight is -3% (8hrs).
The battery lasts at least 12 hrs of intense usage.
Normally I have to recharge every second day (e.g. I charged last night, I answered a few calls, I did some IM and browsing and I still have 73% left).
For a phone with a 1 GHz processor, a 4.3" screen and a tiny 1250 mAh battery I find the drainage is rather decent.
Mind you, I ALWAYS do at least one full charging cycle to my battery after flashing a new ROM. I mean: full discharge, battery out 1 min, full charging in OFF mode, battery out 2 mins.
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Mind you, I ALWAYS do at least one full charging cycle to my battery after flashing a new ROM. I mean: full discharge, battery out 1 min, full charging in OFF mode, battery out 2 mins.
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I have seen this process recommended a couple of times now. What is the theory behind it if you don't mind me asking?
maybe its also becouse some of us couldnt wait using the hd2 when they got it (like me) before it was fully charged for the first time
anyway my battery life has improved a little bit, i was at 74% this morning and did a lot of browsing, installing, tweaking and now its at 3%. it used to be much worse
I have battery consuming problem from time to time.I did everything:
installed new stock rom 1.66;
transfered all data which phone is using from card to phone memory(pictures,icons,sounds.etc...)
all updates are done manually;
Gprs connection is swiched off on the idle after one min;
One night it is loosing from 2 to 4%;
another from 30 to 40%
and it is eating memory from 10 to 15mb
I think that it is radio which is causing battery drainage so fast(to much communication wit a base stations,because when I am checking spb wireless monitor in the morning,there is no any data traffic.
I hope they can solve problem,because it is getting me mad and crazy
Try setting the screen brightness to 10-20% (on battery powered)
and dim backlight after 10 seconds (on batter powered).
It helps a lot, at least for me.
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I have seen this process recommended a couple of times now. What is the theory behind it if you don't mind me asking?
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as far as i know, the battery has an integrated digital circuit (ic) which estimates the state-of-charge (soc). the procedure resets/calibrates the ic to obtain a more accurate estimation. since the radio rom is in charge with the power management (among other things), by changing it you decalibrate the "gauge".
i don't know if i've got the theory right but i tested this myself and it surely works.

Battery Life??

Hi Guys! and Gals..
Wondering hows your battery life?? Can you make it through a day Ok? I have a touch pro on Sprint and battery life stinks in the worse way.
Last time I checked, it went 13hrs until 31%.
I usually use it for around 90minutes continously reading or web browsing during my commute. There is also 4-5hrs (or more daily) during which I only get 1-2bars of receptions, so it drains battery faster. There was probably also a 30-40minute phone call using bluetooth.
I can go an 10-12 hour day with light use:
45 mins of phone and text (no bluetooth)
20 mins phone (bluetooth)
30 mins misc.
30 mins games.
20 texts.
Data on about 8 hours without Wifi and 4 on (N enabled)
1 hour browsing, emails etc.
30 mins with Microsoft Reader.
Probably a little more.
Also syncing a lot with calendars.
Not bad, but I feel like it could be better.
t-mobile usa.
I have 75% by end of the day
Adjust your PEAK TIMES for ActiveSync, that way your device isn't consistently trying to allocate resources to collect data such as emails.
Screen brightness, system volume, hibernating times, etc.
ALL OF THOSE are key factors in how quickly your battery will be drained. Anything involving the on-screen display is what will quickly deplete available battery life on a single charge. That may seem very "cliche" to say, but the fact is, this device has a 4.3-inch screen, so it's a power hog.
For today, it's been 17.5hrs since I unplugged and the phone has been mostly sitting except for a few occasional brief checks of the phone, 30minute email syncs, and a 15 minute phone call. It's at 40% battery after the 17.5hrs.
It did drop around 20% in the first 6hrs since the phone was in an area of horrible 0-1 bar reception. The rest of the time has been 2-3 bar reception.
17.5 hours @ 40%... are you serious?
My TMOUS HD2 has never gone more than 8 hours on a full battery charge. This is with "normal" usage. Regular email checks, activesync with direct push.
Comming from the Blackberry Bold II with 13-15 hours of battery under normal usage patters, the HD2 is VERY WEAK!!!.
I'm contemplating sacraficing the sleak look of the phone for the extended battery.
Anyone have the ex battery? How's your battery life?
Canecraze said:
My TMOUS HD2 has never gone more than 8 hours on a full battery charge. This is with "normal" usage. Regular email checks, activesync with direct push.
Comming from the Blackberry Bold II with 13-15 hours of battery under normal usage patters, the HD2 is VERY WEAK!!!.
I'm contemplating sacraficing the sleak look of the phone for the extended battery.
Anyone have the ex battery? How's your battery life?
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If you need direct push in your life, then I suggest changing 3G to EDGE network.
Difference is quite noticeable.
It sucks,and if you want better battery life don't use it.I returned mine after 48hrs.
All the advice is great,but....
-If I have go from 3G to EDGE.
-Lower the brightness almost to the minimum.
-Set activesync up.....What is the point of having so much technology? if I can not use because the phone dies.
I need real time email and 3G to work,plus all the stupid menus that windows mobile still has made me change my mind.Microsoft has been in the market for a bunch of years and winmo still sucks.
Do not get to impressed with the HD and the movies,cause the thing dies in no time.
Don't buy it and stick with android.
I end the day with about 60% battery life left with mild-medium usage. A few phone calls, some maps/gps, active sync every 4 hours, facebook every 2 hours, weather every 3 hours.
VERY happy with battery life on this phone
i went all day yesterday (my first day with it) so i used it alot, took it of the charger, at 7:30am, and plugged it in last night at 10:00 and it was at 39%. that was BEFORE i turned off 3g(i dont get 3g in my area) so this hd2 blows the iphone battery out of the water....IMHO
my last device was blackberry 8900.
that thing lasted 3 days with moderate use. compared to that, 15 hour limit does suck, and there are times I don't want to use the phone to conserve the battery, which makes rage, but oh well. now I always carry an extra battery in my pocket, so that's a bit better. but that doesn't make it okay.
with the 3g off, wifi off, auto back light,running the energy rom apr 9. unplug on 9 am use about 100 sms and 10 minutes phone call with all the auto data off,just manual check weather and email twice still have 80% after 3pm.
turn off voice commends - this will help
Its getting better
I have recently done a few things to help the battery. I adjusted the the screen brightness to a comperable setting that a friend of mine has his set to on his iphone3gs I did not do anything to the 3g settings or anything like that. I set me email to sync every 4 hours. But my hotmail I just click send/receive and sync it myself. I play music all day on my phone. Check twitter internet facebooks while music is playing and a lot of texting over a hundred sent and recieved daily. Before I made a few tweeks it would kinda die quickly but now it appears to be a lot better.
My batter DOES NOT LAST FOR CRAP!!!!! I took it off charge at 8:13 and at 10:30 i checked my phone, it went from 100 percent to 81 percent. HOW DOES IT GO DOWN 19 percent in 2 hours when i didnt even USE the phone, i just hit the backlight to check the time, this battery is unacceptable everytime i check the phone the percent has dropped
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My batter DOES NOT LAST FOR CRAP!!!!! I took it off charge at 8:13 and at 10:30 i checked my phone, it went from 100 percent to 81 percent. HOW DOES IT GO DOWN 19 percent in 2 hours when i didnt even USE the phone, i just hit the backlight to check the time, this battery is unacceptable everytime i check the phone the percent has dropped
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Do you leave 3G turned on? Do you have your e-mail and/or weather checking themselves automatically?
The phone can certainly be doing things that consume the battery, even if you're not manually handling it at the time.
I don't understand why battery life seems to differ so much from phone to phone. My battery life is excellent and I use it a lot. I do have to charge it every night but I expect that from a smartphone. It always lasts me throughout the day with music, videos, calls, texts and web use on 3g. I couldn't be happier with the battery life of my phone.
PLEASE give me good tips how to save battery? BTW im using ENERGY's latest rom with cookie 1.7. i dont understand why i have to stop my email and turn off 3g when this phone is MEANT for these features. theres no point of a having an excellant phone when you cant use its features to its full potentiol without having it die within 10 hours( with moderate use)
Battery is weird
The other day i charged my hd2 fully then got on an airplane all connections were watch from paris with love which looks great on the phone landed after an hour and a half and my battery life was down to 15 percent i think i might have a bad battery when i am in the car i leave it on the charge and when i am in the hotels that i stay in it stays on the charge or plugged into my laptop and thoughts??

[Q] Focus battery life after Mango 7720

How is the battery life compared to previous state? Better, worse or about the same? Please vote
It will be the same for the first 3 days and then gets better by a whole one more day (Don't know why).
For me the counter at the 1st 3 days said it will last for 1 day and 18 hours now it says that it will last for more tan 2 days and 18 hours and some times 3 days and 5 hours.
I tested it and it lasted for 2 days and 11 hours and there was still 17% of battery life (Lite usage , some 3g usage and listening for 30 minutes for music and around 2 to 3 calls of 15 minutes total).
Hope that helps
It does, thanks! Replies are welcome and there's a poll on top so please vote
I leave WiFi and data connection switched on all te time ... I used to get about 18 hours ... Still get Te same ... Comparing 7720 RTM with official mango update ...
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Battery life on my focus with mango and even before mango has been better than any other smartphone ive owned. I cant complain at all.
I was going to post a message on the battery too.
Poll is a great idea.
I just finished charging it after installing Mango. I will see how much it lasts.
I wanted it to drain out and recharge it so I can see how it is with Mango. It didn't gave up easily.
My initial impression is that battery is improved.
However, when talking about battery life, it's crucial to keep in mind what services the phone is using and what apps are installed.
For example, things like sound enabled for key presses, or having WiFi on or off, whether you play games, what apps you run, etc are important.
For my test, I want to see how long the battery lasts with a very basic usage. WiFi turned off, without running too much app or play games, giving\receiving few calls(I do not talk too much on the phone).
I heard for example that Samsung app Now drains out battery pretty fast.
Also, lack of signal in some areas, also means alot for power consumption.
6 days + 7 hours
Usage:
no WiFI enabled
no games played
max 2 hours of talks in total(I talked once like 1 hour)
How does it sound to you?
For me it looks fine although I am wondering how much would it last if I have Wifi enabled(for the same amount of talking duration).
6 days, What?
I only get 3 days and 15 hours if not using the mobile phone at all.
Can you please post a screen shot of the battery saver
I am in the 7th day actually now
The statistics displayed in battery saver are very wrong. I am not sure how it computes the remaining time.
When I posted yesterday, it showed 6 days since charging and only few hours remaining.
Now it says, 7 days and 1 hour since charging, remaining: "less then 1 hour", remaining battery life: 6%.
Last time I charged, I noticed that battery doesn't get to 0%, most probably it needs some energy to preserve data, so it will probably only keep me for few hours today.
I will post a photo soon, right now I don't have other device to take a photo of it.
Last time I fully charged the phone was when it was completely empty. Maybe it's important.
I can only hope the battery life won't degrade in the next year.
Ok, so now we have some votes so I can share my bits and why I started this thread.
Before 7720 I was on 7660 (Mango Beta1, not 7712)
The battery was certainly better than in NoDo. Actually, I'd say my phone had the best battery lifespan in 7660, than in all other versions.
7660:
Standby: 3+ days.
Night stand-by: 3% consumed (cca 7-8h)
On average use: 1 day and 20h
For me, average use means:
- Cellular data connection on during the day (I switch it off during the night)
- Some wi-fi to check new apps, say 20 mins daily
- About 1-2h playing.
- Minimal calling (several minutes).
7720:
Standby: almost 3 days
Night stand-by: 4%
On average use: 1 day and 10h
Stand-by means no data connections.
As an observation, stand-by time is almost similar. There is a noticeable drop in battery time once data connections come in play (cca 10-20% for me, compared to 7660). I am not going to revert to 7660 to re-test.
One more thing: after upgrading to Mango, I had AccuWeather app installed and running in background. I had to disable it because the battery life was getting under 24h (actually more like 20h). So if you have apps that run in the background, that might be one of the reasons why the battery life dropped for you. Once I disabled it from working on the background, I'm experiencing very similar times to 7660, but still the data connections consume just a bit more.
How are people getting 3+ days!? When at 100%, my Focus usually says like 12-13 hours. I have a Gmail email account set to push, and a Hotmail account set to receive email every hour. I have Facebook, Twitter and LinkedIn linked on my phone. I have Messenger and Facebook Chat set to off. I always have wifi/bluetooth off, unless I need it for a few minutes.
I am thinking I should flash to 7004 again and update to Mango from the beginning.
I walshed my phone for Nodo, then did the fix, then used the windowsphonehacker method for Mango and got the "Samsung Update" when Mango was released.
Thinking maybe my install is just a little off due to the route I took to get here.
Anyone else have battery life as bad as I do? If I use my phone non-stop for like an hour (people hub, web browsing, facebook app, etc...) I can burn through a ton of battery.
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How is the battery life compared to previous state? Better, worse or about the same? Please vote
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Make sure to do a reset immediately after the update to the *official* Mango (not the tricked one).
The BL seems to be much better and is a small cost for the rewards. You will erase your phone, but it's worth it. The BL seems to be much better than NoDo.
To increase battery life when you have data connections on:
- keep the brightness to low
- keep the ringer on vibrate when you can
- disable background apps
- don't keep applications opened in the background
These save me a good % of battery on a daily basis.
Also, unless really necessary, disable data connections during the night.
@rkremers: with the above settings and no data connection I get 3-4% loss evey 8h or so. If you calculate, that's about 12% per day. Which gives about 9 days for standby, as someone else on the forum was saying, which I incline to believe. This weekend I will test this too. I won't touch the phone at all until Sunday evening. So I'll have the power consumption on standby for 2 days.
dang enderpsp... Now I'm for sure gonna flash to 7004 and start from scratch, to see if it gets better. Probably do it Sunday sometime due to busy Friday night/Saturday.
Thanks for weighing in...
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dang enderpsp... Now I'm for sure gonna flash to 7004 and start from scratch, to see if it gets better. Probably do it Sunday sometime due to busy Friday night/Saturday.
Thanks for weighing in...
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You're welcome. Keep in mind that a "tired" battery can also be responsible. I see lots of wrong advice given across the forum.
How to Prolong Lithium-based Batteries is a long read, but in the long run, you'll benefit from it, as a lot of devices use nowadays these types of batteries, including cars!
LE: As a refresher for me, I searched again and found this. While it's not as detailed as the one above, it contains good advice.
so, I flashed to 7004, then let Zune upgrade to Mango... I'm at 95% battery now, and it says 1 day 5 hours... 1 day 10 hours with battery saver on.
Not sure if it will actually last that long, but before I did this, it would say about 13 hours on a full charge with battery saver on... so clearly my phone did not like being walshed, unwalshed, hacked to mango, etc... Guess in the future I'll install leaked versions of WP7, but go back to zero when they officially release.
I finished the weekend standby test (2 days). This battery is 9 months old.
Setup:
- Battery saver off
- No data connections/wifi
- Sound on
- Low brightness
- No alarms
- No background apps
- No touching the phone
After 24h: 91%
After 48h: 79%
Had a phone call (didn't answer) and one alert (didn't dismiss), in the second day. After 24h I just turned on to check battery status (<20s).
The end result speaks for itself, approx 10% battery per day. So, it can give 9+ days on standby.
Next weekend I'll do the same test with battery saver on and update here.
I just got a Samsung Focus and the battery seems to lose power at the rate of 2% an hour. Is this normal? data connection is not active, no games, no youtube videos just a quick e-mail check and 2-3 min call.
Is this likely to improve after a few more battery charge cycles? I have followed all instructions like disabling location services and background apps.
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I just got a Samsung Focus and the battery seems to lose power at the rate of 2% an hour. Is this normal? data connection is not active, no games, no youtube videos just a quick e-mail check and 2-3 min call.
Is this likely to improve after a few more battery charge cycles? I have followed all instructions like disabling location services and background apps.
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How is the antenna signal? What type of connection?
Antenna signal is pretty good 4-5 bars. Just regular connection not 3g. E-mail auto syncs have been set to manual.
Battery seems to be original Samsung.

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