Hello Friends !!
I have purchased Dopod 838 Pro in Septemeber'06. It was working perfectly fine. I was mainly using the PDA to check my official emails. I had configured the Pocket Outlook to check for my email account every 15 Minutes and download only the Headers for the new emails.
Recently I have installed the following Software in my PDA.
1) Spb Mobile Shell
2) Phatpad CalliGrapher 8.4
3) Lexisgoo English Dictionary
4) Novii Remote Deluxe
5) Speereo Voice Translator
6) VitoVoice2Go
7) PhoneAlarm 1.58
After installing the above Software, I noticed that the Battery of my PDA started draining very fast (i.e. around 10% in one hour). I recharged the battery to 100% and it came down to 40% in 8 Hours of time.
I therefore uninstalled all the above Software, but the battery problem remained the same. Thereafter, I Hard Reset the device and did not install any additional Software (apart from which are already installed by Dopod). I just configured my email settings to check for the emails after every 15 minutes. But the Battery is still draining at the same speed (i.e. around 10% per hour).
I am using SingTel Mobile Service and I remain connected to their UMTS Service all the time for checking of my emails after every 15 minutes. Apart from that there is no additional Software installed and no Background Application is running.
I also use ActiveSync once or twice in a day to update my Contacts and Appointment details. I have already used the "Fake Server Trick" to stop the automatic running of ActiveSync in the PDA.
Earlier my PDA was used to remain ON only for few hours in a day and I did not notice the Battery drainage problem. I used to recharge the battery after every two days. Now my PDA always remains ON and connected to UMTS Service of SingTel all the time.
I want to know whether this is the normal Battery Consumption of Dopod 838 Pro or is there any problem with the Battery of my PDA.
Many Thanks for your Help !!
I think from what I've read and experienced, just being connected 3G drains the battery significantly. I'm actually experiencing the same problem but after upgrading to the leaked rom. At work, I have 3G connection, but only outside of the building. I'm always in and out, but I guess this could be contributing to the battery drain. Actually, I don't know what the deal is because the majority of the time, I'm on Edge. Maybe this is tied into the new rom (and radio rom), but I can't put my finger on it.
Many Thanks Furila21 !!
I also fell that that the Battery Drain problem relates to always on 3G connection. But it is quite strange that 3G is consuming so much of battery. Infact I have configured the Outlook to check and download the emails from my POP3 Server after every 15 minutes. Apart from that, I am not using the Internet connectivity for any other application. But still around 10 percent of the Battery get consumed every Hour and which is quite high.
I have now configured my PDA to use GPRS instead of 3G / UMTS and it seems that the Battery consumption has improved little bit after that.
Another alternative is to configure the PDA for Auto Disconnection of GPRS / 3G after Outlook downloads the emails from the Server. This can be configured through "GB-SOFT-GPRS-Tweak" or similar utilities, but I am looking for the program which can immediately disconnects the GPRS connection after use, rather than waiting for 1 or 2 minutes of no-activity.
Please do let me know the exact status of Battery Consumption of your PDA.
Friends, kindly share your experience if any of you have also faced the high Battery consumption problem while using 3G on Dopod 838 Pro.
Friends,
I have now configured the PDA to only use GPRS (i.e. GSM) for checking the emails after every 15 minutes. I have not installed any additional Software after Hard Reset and now I am using the PDA as per the default factory settings. Only Outlook is checking the emails after every 15 minutes.
Now the Battery consumption has been around 30% in the last 12 Hours (i.e. from 100% to 70%). During this period, I have not received any calls and I have not used my PDA for any other purpose.
Kindly advise if the above consumption is normal or is it still on the higher side.
Many Thanks.
Friends,
Kindly give me an approx. idea for normal Battery Consumption of "Dopod 838 Pro" in 24 hours (without using the GPRS or 3G).
Many Thanks !!
yadluck said:
Now the Battery consumption has been around 30% in the last 12 Hours (i.e. from 100% to 70%)
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With email checking every 15 mins on Edge, this sounds normal. As mentioned before, just being on UMTS/HSDPA will consume a large amount of battery power; it makes sense; the faster speed, the more battery gets consumed- Esp. with you having the connection active, checking email every so often. I've come to the realization that this isn't "strange" but is the norm for 3G usage.
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I just wanted to share my experiences with my new phone so far. The T-Mobile MDA (I'm not sure what version it is, it's the only one for sale at T-Mobile right now) is an awesome phone.
Just today I learned how to listen to streaming Sirius satellite radio, and I enjoyed the sounds of dance music by the pool from Windows Media Player on my phone.
The things I hate about this phone are the battery life (it's horrible, especially if I have Bluetooth on all day for my Bluetooth headset or am listening to streaming music), the bad Outlook syncing (I don't know how to set contacts in a group like Personal and ONLY sync Person contacts with my phone), the GPRS connection is bad... I guess when I don't have service it disconnects itself or something, I don't know how to always keep it alive. Also, downloading things from this forum from my phone doesn't work, it downloads the file download.php when it should be downloading the actual file instead.
Are there any solutions to my problems?
How to keep your GPRS alive
1) Go to the following registry entry:
"HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\Comm\ConnMgr\Providers\{7C4B7A3 *****}\Connections\GPRS*****\"
2) Change "Always On" 0 into 1.
Thanks, is there anything wrong with keeping it on all the time?
Any battery saving enhancements or longer lasting batteries?
Battery
I am still looking into that GPRS issue myself.
I am not sure Kenny, but I read that there are two battery versions
for MDA vario. The standard version that is included with your device, and one that is a little bit more expensive, but will give you 50% extra power.
Please do a search on the net.
Tried this... my device will auto disconnect anyway.
JaySea,
Please try again,
It should work.
If it disconnects then something else is blocking it.
And even when it disconnects, it will connect by itself again,
about 2 minutes after disconnecting.
JaySea said:
Tried this... my device will auto disconnect anyway.
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Do a soft reset, then see if it works...
I'm a total n00b with the T-Mo MDA so please excuse the question.
To view the registry entry must you connect to a PC and access from that or is this done in the phone itself?
Thanks.
Viewing the registry...
You can check/edit the registry on your handheld device with (for example) Resco Explorer or Total Commander...
okay, I'm confused. Is this the right version of Total Commander? MDA has an xscale proc, right?
Sjaakman: Thx so much for the tip.
My MDA has excellent battery life, much better than my previous iMate jam.
WiFi drains your battery life quickly. Set your backlight to the 2nd lowest level and make sure it is set to turn off after 1 min - if it's on all the time that takes a lot of power.
Maybe your battery is bad, see if you can get it replaced.
I'm a newbie in this subject on PDA phones, I just acquired the new MDS Vario T-mobile and don't know many of the great features that some of you mentioned here. If there is any way that I can find more information about the usage of the phone, please send me a PM to guide me through in my initiation. Every bit of advise will be much appreciated.
I'm a newbie in this subject on PDA phones, I just acquired the new MDS Vario T-mobile and don't know many of the great features that some of you mentioned here. If there is any way that I can find more information about the usage of the phone, please send me a PM to guide me through in my initiation. Every bit of advise will be much appreciated.
question how did u get serious radio
Yea how DID you get sat. radio? i mean we all have wifi/gprs/edge...so where do u go to listen?!?!
thanks
Kenny Pollock said:
Thanks, is there anything wrong with keeping it on all the time?
Any battery saving enhancements or longer lasting batteries?
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Kenny Pollock said:
Thanks, is there anything wrong with keeping it on all the time?
Any battery saving enhancements or longer lasting batteries?
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Battery Good overe here
My battery is good it last a long time for a device of this magnitude, also I foud a thread on here about increasing frame rate of the cam from 10 to 19, well i did this then enabled the frame rate counter, it stayed at 10.06 or so. But yesterday I turned the fram rate enabled thing on again now its showing 30-38 frams a sec for video and 15-16 for Pics!!! I dont know y, anyone experience this!!!
Web Access via Wifi or GPRS/Edge
Hello, I am new to TMobile and the MDA; I have had it for 4 days. For the life of me, no matter what I do I cannot get the phone to access the web. Here is what I have done:
1) At home, my PDA (ipaq 4705) and previous phone (imate Jam mini) both connect to my home wireless acess pont with no trouble. The MDA shows my access point in the Network Cards Settings, but it will not associate with it at all. The battery is fully charged, the mode is set to performance, woreless is on, the acess point shows up in the Settings Wireless status screens, but it will not associate. The access point is a b/g one and it is set to mixed mode.
2) I have set up the GPRS settings exactly as per TMobiles web site with the access point (wap.voicestream.com), the proxy, the 8080 port number etc. When I try to go to a website (any web site), the GPRS/Edge modem successfully connects, but Internet Explorer just indicates 'Locating' and I never see a web site,
I have phone service plus the full internet package at 29.95 per month.
Nothing on the phone makes me think it is broken. For those that may have all this working, is there some magic to it? I'm trying not to call TMobile as the 3 or 4 times I have spoken with them I have not seen very good technical knowledge at all.
I have searched quite a bit but have not seen any mention of these problems. I'm hoping I am doing something wrong. Any experienced TMobile user out there that can give a few suggestions?
Regards,
Bob
I have a v1605, and am getting alarmingly short battery life out of it. For example -
7pm: fully charged
>> one 10 minute call, about 10 emails received
4am: completely dead
The only thing I have running is Goodlink push email... I'm not sure how often that polls/ is active, but I cant believe it's all about Goodlink - they wouldnt still be in business. I have the screen on its dimmest, and set to turn off after 10 second of inactivity.
So my question is - what kind of battery life are people getting?
The best I've had is 24 hours - anyone get consistently more than that?
Tytn battery life
One other thought is that I'm currently roaming on Voda in Japan, and so am on an entirely 3G network.
Does anyone know if 3G is more power-hungry than 2G?
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timbatop said:
One other thought is that I'm currently roaming on Voda in Japan, and so am on an entirely 3G network.
Does anyone know if 3G is more power-hungry than 2G?
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3G consumes more battery than normal gsm
Goodlink is a notorious powerhog, too...
My 1 GB Twinmos memory card was draining my battery. Switched back to my 512 MB card and and the battery life was doubled...
Never the less TyTN should live longer. Perhaps smth is wrong with the battary
As an indicator, I spend around 2 hours on calls and receive around 150 mails a day via Vodafone Blackberry push email Client, with the phone swapping between GPRS and 3G for connectivity.
My phone is fully charged at 7am and by early afternoon (3ish) I get the battery low message.
I was also experiencing short battery life with my TyTn and found that when I forced the phone to only use GSM my battery life was extended by 24Hrs.
If I want to use the phone for 3G or HSDPA I then enabled it.
To adjust the setting, go to "Settings", "Phone", "Band" and adjust Network Type to "GSM"
Battery is draining too fast when 8525 is connected data mode ( Goodlink or Xpress.)
This forced Cingular to postpone the imminant release of 8525
Any body is noticing this with the TyTn ?
Goodlink is a notorious battery killer on many devices...
I used to use Xpressmail on my SX66, and it was also a battery killer (and extremely unstable).
I'm not using either program on my TyTN though...
I'm using Exchange ActiveSync with DirectPush via PDAConnect (and isp.cingular APN). I've seen no issues whatsoever with battery life.
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I'm using Exchange ActiveSync with DirectPush via PDAConnect (and isp.cingular APN). I've seen no issues whatsoever with battery life.
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Goesto11, do you have to have the PDAConnect plan with Cingular to get pushmail without using Goodlink, or can I get it with just unlimited Medianet plan?
I have been on 3G, with DirectPush from my exchange server and battery's down to 50% since morning ..
I don't use Goodlink at all (never did).
Unlimited MediaNet forces you to use wap.cingular, which can cause timeout issues (see Sleuth's notes on the subject).
There is definitely better performance on mail delivery / polling frequency (and thus battery life) on using isp.cingular, which is only available with PDAConnect.
Whether or not the improvements are worth an extra $20/mo is a personal decision...
austin_boy ... OT .. Any news of anymore ROMs from Cingular?
@austin_boy: I can test this on my TyTN to see if the problem reproduces (Indicating hardware or not). Is v1.34 the ROM I should be using?
Cingular release of 8525
Does anyone know when Cingular plans to release this phone? My SX-66 is on its last legs.
Goesto11... thanks for the info.
Jhouse... that's the question of the year. No one knows. Speculation has been wild all over the internet. Some piece of Cingular literature said Oct. 29th, and then that ended up being an outdated piece of literature. I've heard everything from tomorrow all the way through the end of the year as release dates. Don't bother asking any of the sales people in any of the retail stores. They don't know either.
There is no one place on the net to go to keep updated on the status, but if I had to suggest a couple places to keep in tune to everyday to see if any news about it comes up, it would be Engadget Mobile (www.engadgetmobile.com) or Cingular's HTC forum (forums.cingular.com and then click on 'Cingular/HTC' and do a search for 8525). Take what they say in that forum with a grain of salt though.
Be patient. The release is imminent (before the holidays). No operator will launch a device with a potential defect. The battery problem is on the way to get solved
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Be patient. The release is imminent (before the holidays). No operator will launch a device with a potential defect. The battery problem is on the way to get solved
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You evidently don't have Sprint
<---Patiently (not really) waiting
@austin_boy:
If you need more testing done prior to release, you know where to drop off the "fixed" ROM...
I have noticed the Battery drain on my Tytn, but it is only a problem when connected to 3G. Seems to be a little better on the Cingular 1.34 rom, than the stock Tytn 1.18.
I am in a 3G area all the time so my Tytn is always connected to the 3G network using the Cingular isp.cingular APN. When I first got the Tytn, the battery would go down 50 to 60 percent overnight without use(only push email with about 10 emails rec'd) if left in the Auto selection (it seems to search for the signal when set to Auto). It would only go down maybe 10 percent if set to GSM only. And would go down 30 to 50 percent if set to 3G only.
I let the battery run out several times in between full charges and it seems to be better.
I have found it is better to set the network band to either GSM/1900-850 or Wcdma/1900-850 and the battery lasts longer. Yes, it lasts a lot longer on GSM, but if I wanted just GPRS/EDGE why buy the Tytn. SO I usually set it to 3g.
I charge it on my daily commute (45 minutes) while listening/watching morning TV and the occasional call via bluetooth. Receive probably 35 to 60 emails via MSexchange Push. Make approx 10 to 15 calls and occasional surfing the web while on the phone. I sometimes have to charge it during my day at the office, but it will usually last until my drive home.
So, yes the battery does not last very long. My Prophet and Universal can easily last more than a day. But I love that 3g speed. So, if you have a tytn; get a charger for home, work and a car charger also.
I am hoping another Cingular Rom shows up for more testing.....
Hi Folks
I have been using GPRS on and off for a few weeks, mostly in the evening when I'm out in the sticks somewhere or with nowt todo and not at home.
Last night was the end of a long day which ended in a 20 hour work shift and I forgot to use NODATA to switch off the GPRS. I was less than amused to find it "on" and connected a few minutes ago
Not sure how long it's been on for as there is no logging I can see.
I'd like some suggestions for software to tell me the last time connected, how long for, what was up/downloaded and also a history of what I've used in time and throughput.
Anyone help? I've tried a search but I don't seem to be getting anywhere Must be too little caffeine in me
TIA
Elwyn
you may want to try SPB GPRS Monitor; it gets good reviews.
www.spbsoftwarehouse.com
Hi,
i think you don't need to worry. GPRS is charged per packet, so you don't pay for being online only. As far as you don't use it, nothing will be charged on your bill.
PS: I also recommend SBP GPRS Monitor, used it when i started with GPRS. Works fine.
gprs in most places say they charge pr. MB
makes you wonder how many of them charge pr. MB begun or pr. full MB
otherwise checking a bit ever so often could get expensive
Hi,
Got my Hermes (xda trion) very recently. Have noticed a battery performance about as good as that of the Exec.
In fact, had full charge yesterday at 12pm. I now have 30% left (4:50pm). Bluetooth and wireless have been off. Call time: 9 mins exactly. Push email on (fairly good 3G reception). That's all the useage it's had.
Is this what I should be expecting from the Trion or have I got a dud battery??
Thanks in advance,
HPJ
HPJ said:
Hi,
Got my Hermes (xda trion) very recently. Have noticed a battery performance about as good as that of the Exec.
In fact, had full charge yesterday at 12pm. I now have 30% left (4:50pm). Bluetooth and wireless have been off. Call time: 9 mins exactly. Push email on (fairly good 3G reception). That's all the useage it's had.
Is this what I should be expecting from the Trion or have I got a dud battery??
Thanks in advance,
HPJ
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HPJ,
I too found that my battery ran out of power very quickly - but only when at work during the week. The problem appears to have been caused by the Vario II (Hermes) spending all day jumping back and forward between networks whilst hunting for the best signal - only an issue at work.
I would recommend that you try one of Daniel's applications - he is working on Comm Manager Pro at the moment but I think that Bandswitch will probably help you - it solved my battery life issue completely. Although the Bandswitch application (very small footprint) will not increase the signal you may find that forcing the phone to operate in a particular band helps - this is very easily achieved via the Bandswitch interface rather than going into settings each time. I now regularly switch to GSM each day when I get to work and it has solved my battery run-down issue completely!
Comm Manager Pro does much the same and more. It allows you to define a location (according to Cell ID and LAC Code) from which you can set the CMP application to (amongst other functions) switch to a particular band - or even turn the phone off).
I hope this helps you. I'd just posted this elsewhere on this site and you will find plenty on both Bandswitch (linked) and CMP too.
Immense help, thank you Tony.
So if I understand this right, I have downloaded BandSwitch and run it, and I can now choose at will whether I want to use 3G (UMTS) or normal speed (GSM)? And for the phone to not have to continually decide which to use, I'm saving loads of battery? Simple as that?
I am currently testing, and fingers crossed it has solved the problem.
HPJ
I havent found this to be a problem with my TyTN, walking around Uni all day I get varying areas of GSM and UMTS. Ive quite happily left it uncharged for a few days and still been left with around 25% charge remaining. The two main causes of battery drain i have noticed (as a trend in threads requesting help over the last year) have been the radio version and sometimes 3rd party apps.
What is your radio version??
also what apps have you installed?? (include the O2 crap)
Hi Mr Vanx, and thanks for taking a look.
The only apps I have are PocketTv (not even used yet), Kevtris (game), Sprite Backup (from O2, and Adobe reader (also from o2). Thats it.
The details of the phone are:
ROM version: 2.15.206.1
ROM date: 03/23/07
Radion version: 1.38.00.00
Protocol version: 32.71.7020.12H
ExtROM version: 2.15.206.101
Thanks for any help you can give.
Battery performance is terrible
I have tried upgrading my Tytn from WM5 to WM6, WM6 Black 2.5 and now on Black 3. The battery perfomance seems to be getting steadily worse.
If I leave it on my desk in a great 3G area on standby with just push email running (no wireless, bluetooth or anything else), I get about 6 hours sometimes 7. I don;t use it to make phone calls (I'm deaf) although I get the occasional text.
What's up with that? It doesn't even last a working day. Any suggestions?
ROM Version: Pro Black 3.0
ROM Date: 01/04/07
Radio Version: 1.41.00.10
Protocol Version: 32.74.7020.18H
superchimp said:
I have tried upgrading my Tytn from WM5 to WM6, WM6 Black 2.5 and now on Black 3. The battery perfomance seems to be getting steadily worse.
If I leave it on my desk in a great 3G area on standby with just push email running (no wireless, bluetooth or anything else), I get about 6 hours sometimes 7. I don;t use it to make phone calls (I'm deaf) although I get the occasional text.
What's up with that? It doesn't even last a working day. Any suggestions?
ROM Version: Pro Black 3.0
ROM Date: 01/04/07
Radio Version: 1.41.00.10
Protocol Version: 32.74.7020.18H
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The common factor with your case and the one above is Pushmail. There are a few things to consider here and they are outlined in the links that follow. In summary some folks find with Pushmail enabled the battery drains very fast, others notice little effect. So it may be a combination of things you may need to look at:
First to confirm it's pushmail causing the problem - you could run a test day with it not running.
How often is pushmail activated (reduce frequency)
Should you set to use GSM only - uses less battery
Do you get several e-mails large size etc etc
Is your device activating - though possibly not using wifi when pushmail is activated?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=269840
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=274695
Mike