Hi,
Has anyone managed to get a VPN connection working properly with t-mobile web'n'walk? I suspect this wont work as all t-mobile connections are sent through a transparent proxy but I just thought I'd check. I remember reading on the Internet that they have a different GPRS access point for VPN connections but they won't give me access unless I'm a business customer. Has anyone managed to get this provisioned on their account? It seems a bit of a con to sell phones that are capable of VPN access and then to tell their customers they can't use it. Does anyone know if the web'n'walk pro service give it's users a public routeable IP address?
Can't imagine they do... Read a figure of 2,500,000 3G phones sold as opposed to the expectation of a few hundred thousand on a MoDaCo thread... I just don't think they'd have the available ipblocks, even though they're given connectivity by the Deutche Telecom aspect of their business... Doesn't seem feasible.
Surely if you initiate a VPN from your phone to a server, the transparent proxy will know to route any incoming responses back to your device?
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Hi, i finally got the unlock code from Tmobile and i am now able to use my phone.
I am trying to setup the GPRS with Tmobile USA. I went onle and found some information, put it in and setup GPRS, but it does not seem to work. When i try to open a wap site with the GPRS, like wap.yahoo.com, it does not come up.
I do not pay for the GPRS, but from what i heard, with out devices, we can use it free, but not full web functionality. We can use pop, imap and stuff, and also get mms, and access wap site. Please if any one knows any configurations that work it will be greatly appreciated.
Try setting up your Proxy settings.
They changed their network requirement recently for Port 80 (HTTP). Be nice if they told everyone though!
Proxy setting should be:
216.155.165.50 on port 8080
According to the Tmobile sites I've frequented, there is no such thing as "free web" anymore and it disappeared months ago. Last time I checked personally, the cheapest you could get away with is the T-Zones data plan....whatever they call it now. I think it's 6 or 7 dollars a month and lets you use wap.voicestream.com as an access point. If you do that and use the proxy server 216.155.165.50, port 8080, you can get to most of the web. Recently, however, I've been reading that even that loophole is slowly being closed by area so while it mght work for me, it may not for you and it might not work for me tomorrow. You can certainly try it using the above access point and proxy setting, but don't be surprised if it does nothing without your paying for a data package.
Yeah, it seems they are slowly shutting down that "function" as mine works sporadically now. Damn. It was a bargain at $4.99/month for the last yr or so
yep - welcome to my world of 10 USD for 2MB a month ! :-(
A bargain indeed. I'm waiting to see if you can do the proxy workaround with your own proxy server. I've had the $20/mo package for ages and it's well worth it but my wife and son have the $5/mo package and use Tmo's http for web access and my own socks proxy for MSN Messenger. A fixed IP address is a big help but you might be able to get away with using dyndns.org for that, too. I guess we'll find out soon as more and more people find out they're starting to get what they paid for.
Well i'm sort of bummed out right now.
My t-mobile Tzones unlimited internet is working again, if I use the proxy. That's dandy. If I turn on my WI-FI and connect to my home wifi, however, I have to go into connections and turn off the proxy for my tmobile gprs in order for me to connect to the internet.
Perhaps I'm doing something horribly wrong, or is this the only way to do it? Please let me know.........
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I have tried all i know, the proxy is blocking my wifi from connecting to the net, so i had to take it out. It says i am connected but i cannot seem to pull up any site, so i paid for the $5.99 t-zone deal, it says it might take a while to provision.
Now i am trying to test the connection by sending MMS, it has been a while i usually don't send MMS. How do i send MMS to a friend in london, i'm in the states, i know it is their mobile [email protected], just don't know what the something is. I know the US version is [email protected]. Thanks.
Also, my MDA PRo gives me an option of WAP1.2 or WAP 2.0, what is the diffrence?
obiesoft said:
Hi, i finally got the unlock code from Tmobile and i am now able to use my phone.
I am trying to setup the GPRS with Tmobile USA. I went onle and found some information, put it in and setup GPRS, but it does not seem to work. When i try to open a wap site with the GPRS, like wap.yahoo.com, it does not come up.
I do not pay for the GPRS, but from what i heard, with out devices, we can use it free, but not full web functionality. We can use pop, imap and stuff, and also get mms, and access wap site. Please if any one knows any configurations that work it will be greatly appreciated.
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Walk into a tmobile store and tell them that you want to pay for a sidekick plan for a compatible euro piece of hardware.
It will cost you $30 usd but its unlimited gprs
Create a new connection and use wap.voicestream.com as the access point. You might still have to call tech support if you don't bring the universal with you because the way I understand it, they ping the simchip and grab the IMEI over the air...may be better to just bring it.
Works great for me. I pop my verizon dsl mail all day with this baby
Now SOMEONE GET ME MY PUSH MAIL!!!
Try this settings...I hope this helps.
Primary IP address: 216.155.165.050
Secondary IP address: Blank
APN name: wap.voicestream.com
Data bearer: GPRS
Profile name: GPRS
Username: Blank
Bearer: Data
Home page: http://wap.myvoicestream.com
Hi,
I have a little problem that I am sure there must be an easy solution to!
I have set up a VPN on my Universal to connect to work. The problem is that my work's VPN server allocates me an ip address in the 10.x.x.x address range. All servers that I need to access behind the VPN have addresses in this range as well. Unfortunately, my ISP (T-Mobile UK), also allocates an address in the same range. Therefore, whenever I try to acccess a server at work, WM5 suffers confusion since it doesn't know whether to route the message through the VPN or directly out to the internet through the cellular modem.
I have been able to verify that the VPN thing works if my work network was on a different network address since initially, I was unable to VPN into my PC at home for the reason described above. I changed the ip addresses of all machines on my home network and now everything works fine at home.
Unfortuantely, I am unlikely to convince the IT people at work to change the address of all their machines. Similarly, I don't think I will have much success with T-Mobile and so is there anything I can change at my end to avoid this problem?
Thanks in advance for any help.
Mark
Narrowing the ip address may help, eg 10.0.0.1 is different to 10.1.0.1.
are you using this over wifi or gprs? if the phone provider is involved, I assume its gprs.
you could try and esablish your ip address as fixed rather than part of the pool, so the it guys assign a range for remote connections as say 10.0.0.100 to 10.0.0.150 as remote dial in connections, thus giving you a separate number.
the best way though I would have thought is for you to a fixed ip address known to you and the servers, and then hard type the ip address as your vpn settings, then establish that ip address as part of the exceptions settings.
in order to use exceptions though you have to know the range, or the exact ip address you will be assigned, and must be different to your telco.
not much of a solution, just some suggested areas to look at.
cheers
s.
hi guys, just out of curiosity what software are you using for VPN? on my laptop my company has installed cisco vpn, does it need to be a cisco vpn for wm5?? :?
From bad to worse...
Thanks for the reply Simon.
Unfortunately, I just went to try out some of your ideas and discovered that I can't get the VPN to connect at all now. It used to connect OK but then have routing problems whenever I tried to access anything. And my home VPN worked perfectly. Now, I can connect to neither.
I simply switched over to an O2 sim and with minimal configuration changes could verify that my setup still works OK and so it must be something to do with T-Mobile blocking ports. They weren't blocked yesterday!!!
Yesterday I "upgraded" my GPRS account from T-Mobile's Web'N'Walk to Web'N'Walk Professional and now I find I have this problem. Is this just a coincidence, or could it be that the Pro version has more severe restrictions than the consumer version?
I have emailed Customer Services to see what they have to say.
I will post back when I get a reply from T-Mobile.
mstar, I am no VPN expert, but for me, using a Windows XP hosted PPTP VPN it works after a fashion (above problems excepted!). I am using the VPN client built into Windows Mobile 5. I think you stand a good chance of getting it working using the built-in client.
Mark
I simply switched over to an O2 sim and with minimal configuration changes could verify that my setup still works OK and so it must be something to do with T-Mobile blocking ports. They weren't blocked yesterday!!!
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I've heard on the grapevine that T-mobile have explicitly refused certain types of traffic on the web-n-walk
VOIP is the biggy...
I was seriously thinking about getting signed up - but no point if IPSEC is a prob, as well as VOIP.
Not sure how they can tell it's Skype traffic :?
http://www.reghardware.co.uk/2006/05/09/t-mobile_bans_voip/
for more info
An Update
An update on my VPN problem. Yesterday after total failure to get the VPN to connect, I emailed T-Mobile customer services.
Although they have not replied, when I tried it this afternoon I found that it was working again as before even though it had not been working first thing this morining. Of course I have not changed anythng at my end to cause it to break and then start working again (but they all say that, don't they!).
So, I don't know whether this was just a momentary fault, or whether T-Mobile have changed something to re-enable the VPN ports for me. I can now VPN in to my home PC, but the problem connecting to my work VPN with the 10.x.x.x address remains.
So, Sikkutz, depending on the address of the remote network, you may or may not be able to get a VPN to work using T-Mobile's Web'N'Walk.
By the way, my VPNs both use Microsoft's PPTP and not IPSec and so there may be different issues with that protocol.
I have discovered that O2 provides a separate acccess point, vpn.o2.co.uk, that causes a public ip address to be allocated to the device, ie not on the 10.x.x.x network. It would seem that this is designed to address this very problem. Does anyone know if T-Mobile can provide something similar?
Mark
There must be a solution
Hi!
I have the same problem with my Qtek 9000 (VPA IV). I can connect to my VPN Gateway but the routing into LAN failed. I get a 10.x.x.x address from Vodafone Germany and my LAN uses 10.98.8.X. :-(
But there must be a solution! My previous Qtek 9010 (VPA III) had the same problem, but it was able to route between the 10.-networks after a firmware-upgrade to version 1.40.01! But I don't no why!
What was changed in firmware to enable routing???
Daniel
i have the same issue aswell, I am reluctant to change the IP range of my machines as that usually causes trouble for the servers
Any other ideas?
Thanks
maybe stupid thing, but did you guys try dna forwarding (that is what I use from home office, not on pda to be honest..
Maybe I just did not get your point....
What kind of VPN server do you use? I'am using a Cisco PIX and use a PPTP VPN almost everyday. I can use the 10.1.x.x network at the location the PIX is located (this PIX is directly connected to the 10.1.x.x network).
I can't however use any of the remote offices using 10.2/10.3.x.x etc.
This is becaus of the lack of routing abilities in the PPTP implementation.
With an IPSEC tunnel (additional software needed) the remote offices can be reached without any problems.
I know that some IP implementation disallow routing between a public address and any 10.x address. To solve this you could give your VPN clients an address from a 10.x subnet .
hi sorry been away awhile,
I use the routing and remote admin snapin of Windows server 2003 to manage my VPN, I can connect fine using the phone as a modem with my notebook but as soon as I try accessing any URL/resource on my network it fails, e.g. we have a intranet site on http://servername but it wont open this up.
Any Ideas?
Background - I just bought a used 700wx from a friend and had it activated on my Cell provider, Sasktel, in SK, Canada. He had it on an expensive data plan and was tired of paying for this. A friend of a friend works for them and just transferred my account to this one from my previous phone, a Samsung A920 with Wap browsing. Sasktel provides their services using CDMA.
I would like to set up a WAP connection using this phone but am unable to find any connection software for this. The only connection I seem to be able to set up in system/connections are the TCPIP connections. I have the gateway IP address and port and my friends friend at Sasktel says that once I dial in with a wap connection, the authentication will automatically happen.
I have done some searching and seem to find that GSM phones have a GPRS setting that meets the requirements for a WAP connection ie; just the gateway and ports information.
Would anyone have any info that could help or point me in the right direction?
Thanks,
Carl
I don't think Treo will support WAP, the method of login is a bit different and not known by many people
I need to set up a smartphone to access a server behind a firewall which will require a PPTP VPN connection. I confess to being a long term symbian user but there don't appear to be any symbian clients.
Having found this website I'm encouraged to find the depth of available information and support and the HTC TYTN II looks like a great device so I'll be getting one.
So, what mobile network should I use that is least likely to give me grief (blocking protocols etc) and/or has accessible support people that understand these sort of issues? My current operator is Orange and has the best coverage where I live. Vodaphone is a disaster - have to go out to the street for a voice call. O2 and T-Mobile are inbetween.
Any other tips/observations would be much appreciated.
I've got a unique situation, and I thought I'd ask to see if anyone else has been able to deal with this situation.
I've got an unlocked MyTouch 3G working on a network in South America. I am presently behind a proxy, and running a wireless router in my home. I can't afford a 3G connection, but of course I want to download apps from the Market, etc.
So far, I've been able to set up a transparent proxy on my desktop (cntlm) to receive traffic and redirect it to the proxy (to avoid the authentication pop-ups), so the browser is fine. Also, Gmail and GTalk work fine, since they transmit on different ports. But the rest of the apps hit a brick wall. Market, Maps, Mapdroyd, etc all zilch.
Since I've been able to do something similar with my *iPod* (yes, I know that's a curse word here), I wonder if there is a way to somehow redirect all web traffic to my desktop, so that it can authenticate with the proxy.
My phone is rooted, running Cyanogenmod-5, with the proxy settings directed to my desktop. But only the browser recognizes the settings. Can other apps be persuaded to use it as well?
Just to add to the previous post...
I did a little more digging, and it seems that the Android Market connects on port 5228. Unfortunately, I don't have control over which ports can be opened in my situation. However, since my *ahem* iPod *ahem* also has Google Maps, I tied connecting and it works fine. I can only assume that it is using the proxy setting, whereas the MT3G is ignoring it.
This is a linux system, and there has to be a way to force it to use the proxy, am I right?
Should the wireless router not take care of the proxy???
The router should take care of all wan-side communication...
So the lan-side devices just connects to the router and have internet!!!
If your router cannot handle this, you could buy some rather cheap wireless network adapter... and in linux you could set it up as hotspot... making sure that all devices just connects to it and have internet while you take care of the proxy problem!!!!
I'm sorry for the confusion, I should have explained my situation better. I actually live in a complex that provides internet by means of a proxy. I have no control over the proxy, and all I have to connect to it is a LAN connection. I have my cheap wireless router hooked up to it, and my computers are configured to direct traffic to it. (I understand that this is similar to many business-like setups.) What this means is that my MT3G can communicate through to the proxy by means of the transparent proxy, but it seems that not all apps are designed to apply the system-wide proxy setting.
If you are able to help, I would gladly provide more details...