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Did anyone else notice this registry entry?
[HKLM\Comm\TIACXWLN1\Params]
"EnableElpMode"=dword:00000000
If I'm not mistaken, the TyTn has a TI ACX100 WiFi chip, and this chip has TI's "Enhanced Low Power(tm) Technology". I've enabled it on my TyTn, and so far it seems to do no harm. I'll have to see if my battery power improves over the next week.
Correction...
Ah, the htc TyTn has TI's TNETW1250 chip. My mistake.
In any case, I think the EnableElpMode (if it really does work) would be a good thing. Also, I've seen a few webpages suggesting an additional key:
"dot11SupportedRateMaskG"=dword:00000008
Apparently this key tells the driver it's okay to do any 802.11g speed. I'm going to go find out!
let us know how it goes....
1st set of test results
First, I should detail the equipment I'm using.
My wifi router: D-Link 624.
My phone: htc TyTn, QTEK ROM 1.35.255.2 (Radio 1.18.00.10)
My laptop: IBM Thinkpad T22, w/ Hawking Techmologies HWC54D wifi card, Win2k.
My PC: P4 2.4GHz, asus P4P800 (has Gb lan), WinXP.
Results so far: (using http://www.bandwidthplace.com/speedtest, and sitting right next to my DI624)
PC: 5.3 Mb/s
Laptop (w/wifi): 3.4 Mb/s
TyTn: ~250 kb/s
Notes:
In one test I set the DI624 to use 802.11g only. Without any registry tweaks, the TyTn connected up just fine. Therefore, I suspect that the dot11SupportedRateMaskG key is no longer needed.
Curious to see if I could boost the TyTn's wifi speed, I began fiddling with all of the different registry settings under that heading (listed above). The wifi speed always hovered in the 250 kb/s range. It seems as though none of those settings significantly changed the wifi speed.
There was one key that did make a big difference in the time it take to actually connect up to the wifi router. Setting "dot11ShortPreambleInvoked" to 1 greatly sped up the time from wifi-off to wifi-connected-and-ready. (My DI624 was also configured for a short preamble.) Without the short preamble, it was taking between 10-30 seconds for the TyTn to connect up. With the short preamble it's between 5-10 seconds.
(Side note: The "Testmode" key didn't seem to do anything - at least I didn't see any difference when I set that to 1.)
One other key that did make a small difference:
[HKLM\Comm\Tcpip\Params]
"TCPWindowSize"=65536
I played around with this key, and it seems like setting it to 4096 "optimized" it just a bit. I got around 270 kb/s with that setting. Setting it bigger (say, 256k) slowed things down (~240 kb/s), while setting it smaller (say, 1k) really slowed things down (~170 kb/s!).
I'm going to continue fiddling around with the settings and report back again. It just seems to me that the TyTn should be able to achieve a wifi speed at least above 1 Mb/s. I would appreciate it if everyone else would check their wifi speed and post the results here as well.
p.s. If anyone knows of a PocketPC utility that can show detailed wifi connection information (such as speed, frequency, protocol, etc.) please let me know!
250 kpbs, that cant be correct? can it?
that would mean that HSDPA is faster than hermes wifi? I will test mine when my wife gives it back to me, im grounded for the holiday season. lol
something is terribly wrong here......
yes, there is something wrong here... I think you need to turn on flight mode before you run your wireless test again, and here is why... On my phone i have my data connection set to always on. If i turn on wifi then my data connection doesnt disconnect and will result in low speeds since its not using the wifi. If i turn mine on flight mode then run tests then everything is good. Here is my results using the same site as the OP
PC = 1.9
phone = 1.4
I am using a 3meg adsl pipe with a wireless SMC router with mac filtering, regular wep, and a static set up on the LAN side.
Progress!
I changed my wifi speed test to: http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed
Surprisingly, that speed test reported 1647 kb/s for my TyTn!
Fiddling with the TCPWindowSize value, it seems that 64k is optimum - well, at least with the dslreports test.
i usually use dsl reports, but i wanted to maintain some kind of constant for your testing
Wireless settings / b-g connections
Hi, I;ve just got a TyTn but it won't connect to my Netgear 802.11g router?? Is it b-only? Is there a hack (like for the Universal) which would enable me to connect to g networks? Would I still be able to connect to b-networks?
Thanks!
motoroller said:
I;ve just got a TyTn but it won't connect to my Netgear 802.11g router??
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My TyTn is fairly new (bought last month) and I can configure my DI624 to 802.11g only, and connect up just fine. What ROM version does your TyTn have? I'm on the QTEK 1.35.255.2 ROM. If you TyTn is right-out-of-the-box, it's probably got the QTEK 1.18.xxx.x. If that's so, you should consider unlocking it and upgrading it to one of the latest ROMs.
motoroller said:
Is it b-only?
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The htc TyTn (Hermes) has the TI TNETW1250 wifi chip. This chip is 802.11g capable.
motoroller said:
Is there a hack (like for the Universal) which would enable me to connect to g networks?
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You can try adding this registry key (although I'm not sure it will do anything on the TyTn):
[HKLM\Comm\TIACXWLN1\Params]
"dot11SupportedRateMaskG"=dword:00000008
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Would I still be able to connect to b-networks?
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Yes. Wifi chips that support 802.11g always support 802.11b (AFAIK).
Good luck!
shogunmark said:
i usually use dsl reports, but i wanted to maintain some kind of constant for your testing
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Yeah, after checking out several speed test websites, I'm beginning to doubt the one on bandwidthplace. Actually, while testing out several other speed test websites using my PC, I've gotten a smattering of different speeds reported. Most seemed to be within reason and about what I expected, but a few were either obviously too slow or absurdly too high. (Ony reported above 100 Mb/s downstream, even though my cable modem is a DCM-202!) The dslreport site seemed to be believable to me, so I'm sticking with it for now.
If it makes you feel better i work for AT&T in the DSL maintenance department and have for 6 years.. anytime i have anyone that reports slow speed issues i always take them to dslreports and use those speedtests.. they seem to be the most reliable that i have found..
Okay, I'll trust dslreports' speed test then!
So now the question is: Does a wifi speed of ~1600 kb/s sound "right" for the TyTn?
What makes me wonder is that when I run the dslreports speed test on my laptop via wifi, I get ~3.2 Mb/s. So I know my DI624 can pump out the bits! (Well, for 802.11g's max of 54 Mb/s, that's still kinna lame.)
I've pretty much exhausted all of the registry settings I can find. Got any others I can/should look into?
there are other things you need to take into account, the processor, the amount of ram, etc.. when you run a speed test it rely's on your pc to process the information as it comes down the pipe... if you really wanted to test it you could build a pc that resembled the phones specs and run a speed test and see what you get.. i would make a bet that it would resemble the same results
Do you know any registry key to improve the wifi trasnimt power?
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Do you know any registry key to improve the wifi trasnimt power?
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have you already went to settings>connections>wireless lan>power mode tab and changed the slider to best performance?
did it but no effects
Wi-Fi Reg Setting
I went through this post and compared the results to waht I have right now! Not too encouraging!
I have a 4MB connection rated at average to be a 3.5MB at www.speakeasy.net/speedtest using the New York Host!
Wi-Fi Reg Setting
I went through this post and compared the results to waht I have right now! Not too encouraging!
I have a 4MB connection rated at average to be a 3.5MB at www.speakeasy.net/speedtest using the New York Host!
I run a WRT54G with upgraded firmware downloaded from kinksys. Before that the damn thing wouldn't even connect to my TYTN.
Right now I am getting connection speeds through WiFi between 650kbps and 1200 kbps according to www.2wire.com speed test.
I have a Dopod 838Pro bought in HK in November to which I didn't do a Thing yet!
Cheers
Is 1.6 Mb/s the best TyTn can do?
Well I've fiddled with all the registry settings I could possibly fiddle with, and dslreports won't show anything above 1.6 Mb/s for on my TyTn (using PIE).
Has anyone gotten anything higher with their TyTn?
Ok, I could never get the "internet sharing" to work on x1 with my friends laptop cause i dont have the drivers...so always used Wifirouter.
I find it a little slow, but it works and does work well. However, I read that the x1 supports "HSDPA, 7.2 Mbps; HSUPA, 2 Mbps" ...but i dont get speeds like that.
If somebody has the files required for connecting the x1 to a laptop and use internet sharing instead of wifirouter...can you upload and post it here? I will then keep them on my storage card for safe keeping.
Also, how do you find internet sharing? Is there any difference in speed compared to wifirouter?
Any help or advice would be great, cheers guy!
I think HSDPA is simply network dependent -when its there you get an H symbol on your signal strength (taskbar) ...when its not there you get the next best thing (3G) and if that's not available you're stuck with plain old slow GPRS (G)
Internet sharing works well for me (obviously depends on the connection you have on the X1 -as above) ...have not used wifirouter so can't say how they compare
7.2 Mbps is theoretical maximum. Your provider is not obliged to provide you with this speed. I get about 1 Mbps for download.
Actually you don't need special drivers for the X1 in order to use tethering. Just connect the X1 to a PC using an USB cable and start the "Internet Sharing" Application on the Xperia. Within the application select "USB Connection" and choose your preconfigured ISP connection profile - é voilà. You will notice that the Xperia appears as a network adapter on the PC. I use that a lot.
Regarding the speed: It really depends on your mobile network. Though my network provider (Vodafone Germany) has some spots where 7,2 MBit/s should be available, I have never had such fast download rates - it's more like 2-3 MBit/s which is still quite okay for me. And even if the network would be capable of such fast transfer rates, the speed will be reduced by the more clients use the same cell.
I also read somewhere (guess it was on SE offical site) that using HSDPA and HSUPA together will limit the download speed to 3,6 MBit/s. So you might want to switch HSUPA off and use HSDPA only - at least it's worth a try if you're sure that your operator provides such fast transfer rates. I always have both switched on.
Nice, 2-3mbps is a lot faster than i was getting...i guess i will need to try this out.
Regarding my friends laptop, maybe i should have said its win xp but it doesnt have active sync or any x1 soft installed...so maybe thats why its looks for the drivers?
Basically i was wondering if you guys knew where i could get the drivers keep them on my phone for times when im out and can get my proper internet fix
I've used my X1 on a few machines with ICS, drivers have always installed automatically (Generic NDIS I think it says), and that's on XP, Vista and Windows 7. No setting up with activesync etc, just plug in and start ICS.
I've started using WMwifirouter now though as it's easier, I don't carry a USB cable with me all the time, and you never know when it'll come in useful!
Random example... me and a couple of mates decided to learn some songs to play at our local, we had chords and lyrics for all except one, we were in a garage, my mate had his macbook, but couldn't pick up his wifi.
I started WMwifirouter and voila!
Speed wise, I usually get around 1Mbps, depending on signal etc, I've seen no difference between USB and wifi sharing.
How is the battery consumption when using WMWifiRouter, e.g. how long does the battery last? I can imagine this is the worst use-case at all, because you have WiFi active and HSDPA in parallel.
The big advantage when using an USB connection is that the battery is charging while it's connected, though the WiFi method is much more comfortable and flexible.
you do know that 7.2Mbps mega bits per sec? and not megabytes.
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I've used my X1 on a few machines with ICS, drivers have always installed automatically (Generic NDIS I think it says), and that's on XP, Vista and Windows 7. No setting up with activesync etc, just plug in and start ICS.
I've started using WMwifirouter now though as it's easier, I don't carry a USB cable with me all the time, and you never know when it'll come in useful!
Random example... me and a couple of mates decided to learn some songs to play at our local, we had chords and lyrics for all except one, we were in a garage, my mate had his macbook, but couldn't pick up his wifi.
I started WMwifirouter and voila!
Speed wise, I usually get around 1Mbps, depending on signal etc, I've seen no difference between USB and wifi sharing.
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Actually you do not need a cable, you can have the phone to act as a bluetooth modem through the internet connection sharing , no drivers required what so ever, you will need to pair your phone with the laptop first make sure, that Bluetooth PAN client is checked on the laptop, then start the internet connection sharing on the phone and make sure that you are using bluetooth PAN, and you will have instant access on your laptop, No drivers, No cables
assuming the laptop has bluetooth
wifi is much more standard, so it's handy to have.
The best part here is non of these mrthods are mutually exclusive, so you can use whichever is best for the situation. USB is handy as ICS does drain power, using wifi for it makes my X1 extremely warm...
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... using HSDPA and HSUPA together will limit the download speed to 3,6 MBit/s. So you might want to switch HSUPA off and use HSDPA only...
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You're right!
sidneylopsides said:
I've used my X1 on a few machines with ICS, drivers have always installed automatically (Generic NDIS I think it says), and that's on XP, Vista and Windows 7. No setting up with activesync etc, just plug in and start ICS.
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Yes, thats what comes up...but it wont auto install. Tried it on three laptops and they all wont work haha. I rebuilt the machines/laptops so even tho all drivers are installed (device manager)...maybe i left some out.
I was hoping somebody on the forum would know where i can find these drivers?
I know this sounds stupid...sorry
Generic NDIS is one of the system files in windows found under system32, windows will not boot even in safe mode if these drivers are not loaded, ICS works fine as far as i can tell with no extra drivers on any windows XP or later
i downloaded this;
http://www.microsoft.com/whdc/device/network/NDIS/rndis.mspx
but its from 2005
I hope it works
Ive owned my x1 for about 6months, I have unlimited pda data plan but not tethering plan with my carrier. For some reason I can teather my x1 to my eeePC 901 via USB,but not BT,and get internet when Im not in a wifi spot. It does give me the BT PAN option and my devices are paired but cant get internet connection, only thru USB. Ive tried this multi times for over a month now and have not been charged any data usage or overage on my bill.
I was about to do the r3a update, but was wondering if there was any ninja fixes in this update. Id hate to lose this ability just for a little faster performance.
just use wmwifirouter bro
ActiveSync installation provides the ICS drivers
fracmo2000 said:
Yes, thats what comes up...but it wont auto install. Tried it on three laptops and they all wont work haha. I rebuilt the machines/laptops so even tho all drivers are installed (device manager)...maybe i left some out.
I was hoping somebody on the forum would know where i can find these drivers?
I know this sounds stupid...sorry
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You DO need ActiveSync to be installed before you can use your X1 for ICS.
I tested it yesterday on my Windows XP SP3 laptop: When you connect your WM6 mobile with the ICS program running on it, WinXP demands for a plain Generic NDIS driver but won't find a suitable one. But during ActiveSync installation (version 4.5 worked for me), the USB drivers are updated, and afterwards my X1 got recognized as a "Windows Mobile Internet Connection Sharing Device" or something like that.
ActiveSync is not active during ICS session, but its prior installation is mandatory for it to work.
Greetings,
MiK
Hey, im new here , so hi.
I have a XDA Orbit with o2 in the UK.
I wondered if there was anyway of increasing my internet connection download, as i got a hack for a USB drive to use your sim with unlimited internet connection, and it works, but im only getting 0.03 mgbs, and wondered if anyone had any tips on increasing your download.
cheers
236.8 kbit/s is the max for edge
nothing any software can change
and thats theoretically and with max quality signal
as in what you will never get
i need your usb hack software.....please
i need your usb hack software to try out here in Nigeria. we have cases of flaws in telecoms internet platforms, and i think i can get a working unlimited internet connection down here..who knws, i might be able to tunnel you to my connection using OPENVPN..theoritically giving you a stable but guaranteed speed.
am not sure it will increase speeds though, as UMTS/3G gives about 300Kbits/s
but you never can tell..waht might come up...
Can someone enlighten me as to how i can, if i wish, surf the Internet on my laptop via my HD2, do i need a cable or something else and how exactly is it done and what speeds are you looking at,etc?
Cheers
HI ya its easy m8
1 Hit the windows key
2 scroll down till you see WI-FI Router
3 Click it and the you can give your phone a Network name
4 Just click stat
5 do a scan for WI-FI on your laptop and you will see your new wifi network you just setup.
log in as you would with any othere wifi sig
Hope that help's
If for any reason you don't have "Wifi Router" attached is the cab file
You also have in the "Tools" folder in the Start menu something called "Internet Sharing", from which you can use either USB cable or Bluetooth PAN to share the connection. Also if you connect the phone with USB, you will get the option on the screen to share the connection.
Smygflik said:
You also have in the "Tools" folder in the Start menu something called "Internet Sharing", from which you can use either USB cable or Bluetooth PAN to share the connection. Also if you connect the phone with USB, you will get the option on the screen to share the connection.
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You'll only get a couple of megabits this way because of the limitations of how USB actually works (and some bugs in internet connection sharing).
The wifi router way is the best route because it allows for true full duplex commications on the wifi side and you'll also get the maxium transfer speed from the GSM side. So you'll be talking about 7-8 mbps down and about 2mbps up (up load can be restricted by your provider though)
Many thanks folks ill give it a go
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do u have a stock rom or custom
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sorry custom ROM does it make a difference?
M3PH said:
You'll only get a couple of megabits this way because of the limitations of how USB actually works (and some bugs in internet connection sharing).
The wifi router way is the best route because it allows for true full duplex commications on the wifi side and you'll also get the maxium transfer speed from the GSM side. So you'll be talking about 7-8 mbps down and about 2mbps up (up load can be restricted by your provider though)
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I've never noticed it with the USB cable. But yes, bluetooth is a bottleneck. For some reason my laptop refuses to connect to the wifi app provided with my HD2, so haven't tried it.
hi,
for me I prefer plug usb cable and sharing conexion, by this way I can surf and charge my batt by the same way.
I've made test , in 3G+ zone I've got :
ping : 100-150 ms
down : ~3000 kbps
up : 800 kbps
Testing it here but It's taking forever and a day to general.t-mobile.uk,using WI-FI Router
I have successfully tethered my epic to my computer and can download at about 40kbps from the device. (Even 3g in my area is poor)
Now that is not really that important to most people but considering my max download speed with my DSL is 130kbps it makes a huge difference.
Now hypothetically with both DSL and PDAnet connected I should be achieving somewhere around 160kbps.
I am using Vista and both connections are active and show up in the Network Manager but It doesn't seem I can "combine" the bandwidth of the two. I have tried "Merging" the connections and also "Bridging" them.
For example I'm downloading a steam game right now. Its at a steady 128kbps I can look at the status of each of the connections and it doesn't seem I'm pulling anything from the phone. But when I disconnect the DSL I can pull 40 from the phone.
I know its slim pickins on both ends but any extra bandwidth I can get will help. Why can't I combine the bandwidth of the two successfully?
By the way, this is my first post here. I got my epic about a month ago and have been lurking ever since. I look forward to hanging around here more and thanks for any suggestions in advance.
You are going to need to share that connection via wifi to a wireless adapter hooked into a dual wan wireless router with your dsl hooked into the other wan input.
While hooked up you will most likely have to disable dhcp and somehow manually configure the ip's on both connection to the router with load balancing enabled.
In my opinion this is hardly worth any of the trouble and alot harder than what I think you would be willing to want to deal with in the long run.
I would consider possible upgrading your dsl a little faster and just consider your cell connection a convenience for when you need it elsewhere other than home.
Yeah doesn't sound worth it...
1.5mb DSL is the highest available connection here which is what I have.
I've been complaining for 3 years about it heh..
Thanks man..