Cingular 8525 OFFICIAL ROM update and CV - 8525, TyTN, MDA Vario II, JasJam General

I have a question for those that have installed the official update for the Cingular 8525. I hear that it's supposed to enable Cingular Video (correct me if I am wrong, please). Now, does this play through the default Windows Media Player or does it work with Real Player like all the workarounds I've seen? Thanks in advance.

trojanvision said:
I have a question for those that have installed the official update for the Cingular 8525. I hear that it's supposed to enable Cingular Video (correct me if I am wrong, please). Now, does this play through the default Windows Media Player or does it work with Real Player like all the workarounds I've seen? Thanks in advance.
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The ROM is still not released to the Pubilc yet but I guess you are meaning the Cingular AKu 3 and not the standard WWE Aku 3 when you say "official"
The CV plays through Realplayer but it is fully integrated into the ROm, very seamless playback , requires no real mod or hack. The last issue is the "billing error/plan" problem for some users. That is a Cingular issue not a phone/ROM problem.

wpbear said:
The last issue is the "billing error/plan" problem for some users. That is a Cingular issue not a phone/ROM problem.
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This can easily be fixed by placing your sim in another cingular 3g phone that has Cingular Video on it, watch a vid or two and then put it back in your hermes.
I did this with a black jack and it works on my JasJam now.

Thanks all for the replies. I think it's great that Cingular is expanding CV to the "business" customers and not just regular consumers.
I was mainly curious as I have a Treo 750 and was wondering if perhaps CV was offered to the 8525 consumers, maybe 750 consumers will be fortunate to have something official soon. I have the hacks, but it sucks if you have to hard reset because not only does one have to re-install applications, bust also hacks and mods.

Related

T-Mobile release the next MDA Vario update

Been waiting for this git for AGES :-
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/download_manager_mda_vario.html
RUU_Prodigy_2210206_22102109_021911_TMO_UK_WWE_Ship.exe
I'm going to install it later on tonight !!!!!!!!!!!!
ahh thats good......
I was disappointed that my ROM rip didn't achieve what I had hoped, but now you get the full monty!!
Cool. Any idea's what been tweaked, added, fixed etc?
Anyone tried this yet? Any perfomance boosts?
Also, does anyone have any links to any more info on the update?
this is a silly question, but i keep getting confused. Are the "vario" devices the same as the "MDA" in the US? i have the US T-Mobile "MDA" but not sure if it is a VARIO or VARIO PRO, I, II, etc.
i'd like to download the official tmo rom for my device with msfp but so far i can't find it, so i'm just using one of the custom roms for now.
second question, the http://t-mobile.iris-global.com website, is there an equivalent US website?
thanks.
man did a hard reset last night, will have to do one tonight too!!! well soods law!!!
well, just done mine, and the first thing it noticed is that the battery icon in teh top right is now green, where as it was white like the otehr icons. Any idea how to change it back, it looks ugly!
why am i still seeing
RUU_Prodigy_1060204_105_11210_TMO_UK_Ship.exe?
very strange, even when i click download its the above file.
im not to bothered really anyway, im happy with the Mr Clean 2.3 rom for the moment!
bryanparke said:
this is a silly question, but i keep getting confused. Are the "vario" devices the same as the "MDA" in the US? i have the US T-Mobile "MDA" but not sure if it is a VARIO or VARIO PRO, I, II, etc.
i'd like to download the official tmo rom for my device with msfp but so far i can't find it, so i'm just using one of the custom roms for now.
second question, the http://t-mobile.iris-global.com website, is there an equivalent US website?
thanks.
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Just got off the phone with T-mobile US tech support and the answer is NO. The update is only for UK and German T-mobile users. T-mobile US will NOT support the update. However, the tech told me they are testing the new OS update for US, but there isn't a release date set as yet.
BTW the MDA in US is called MDA II or HTC or I-mate something...
I have just upgraded to the new ROM and the other problem I've found so far is that the camera seems to ignore the 'night' mode now and just treats it like 'auto' mode, i.e. pictures taken indoors are practically black.
DAMN and still no support for AKU2 BB Connect..........wtf
does anyone know why they have pulled the update and has anyone downloaded it and can put the file on the FTP? email if you do [email protected]
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JoninLA said:
DAMN and still no support for AKU2 BB Connect..........wtf
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There actually will be a BB Connect update, but not before end of july 2006
if i do this update will i be able to restore my settings etc. from an SBP backup or will i have to set everything up again by hand?
also is the sound quality in calls any better with this update?
cheers.
i think something is different cus i did that and it did not like it, so have to start from the start again
Is this the AKU2 update?
impaler said:
I have just upgraded to the new ROM and the other problem I've found so far is that the camera seems to ignore the 'night' mode now and just treats it like 'auto' mode, i.e. pictures taken indoors are practically black.
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If anyone can suggest a fix for this problem I'd very much appreciate it. It's like it's ignoring whatever exposure settings it has :?
@bryanparke: as a wiseman once said, the only silly question is the one not asked!
The T-mobile US MDA is indeed the equivalent of the european MDA Vario.
They are both based on the wizard design by HTC.
@everyone else: Now that t-mobile have released the AKU2 rom, lets see how much they charge for the privilege of using it. Lets Hope it's cheaper than orange!
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@everyone else: Now that t-mobile have released the AKU2 rom, lets see how much they charge for the privilege of using it. Lets Hope it's cheaper than orange!
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Huh ... it's a free download.
not the download, the service - orange have set their roms so the push email goes through another APN so they can charge you extra for the privilege of push email!
I don't see how they can differentiate however the only thing I can think of is if you were to be using orange e-mail ... if you have access to an exchange 2003 sp2 server (or online equivalent) then wouldn't it just be a gprs connection.

Brand New Unopened MDA (T-Mobile USA)

I'm getting a new t-mobile mda usa phone this week and was wondering what are the first steps expert gurus like yourselves would do?
I've never used MDA before, but I'm a quick learner and have upgraded firmware and whatnot for other things in the past.
So, what would be the first step?
Test it out, see if it works...bla bla bla
Then? Would I upgrade the firmware? Which firmware should I use?
If I upgrade to a firmware that voids the warranty, could I flash the firmware back to stock T-mobile firmware and they would never know the difference (not that i would do that, just wondering)?
What programs/tweaks would you install?
If i get the 5.99 or whatever T-Zones, could I view any website and send/receive email through gmail...or would there be additional charges? Could I also use AIM, or would that cost extra?
I bought 5 MDA's for $250 total from amazon. However, it required me to select the data internet plan which is like $30/mo for each phone. But i was told I could cancel it within 14 days for all the phones, and instead get t-zones for $5.99?
Also...could you guys recommend some good accessories w/links or prices?
Screenprotectors, BT headsets...etc?
I'm also looking for a good, but cheap MiniSD 2gb card.
http://www.outpost.com/product/4922971 <-- Would this work for me, or is there a better one I should look at?
Sorry for asking so many questions, it's just that my MDA is coming this week and I'm really excited and want to be prepared for it.
Thanks guys!
THAT KINGSTON mini sd is the roxs!! works really well!
thou it might not read on ur card reader thru teh mini sd adapter, but hey for that price you can't go wrong!!
there are a ton of progs out there.. i would carefully breeze thru the wiki and other sticky's and then mod/add prog
if you have 1.80 ver firm.. unlock sim and CID then upgrade to 2.26!!
then programs and stuff is your liking.
enjoy.. sorry im in a rush, but you'll get plenty of help!
well .. MDA's cool but if you could wait a couple of weeks or maybe just get it's current version which is the MDA II (Vario II) which should be coming out soon here in the US ... In Europe, it's been out for at least a month or so... The MDA II (Vario II), aka XDA Trion, HTC TyTN, Orange SPVM3100, and the soon to be released Cingular 8525 is available online... just my two cents worth .... the new version has a lot more power and newer / current features which would work on HSPDA/UMTS ....
FYI
I got my MDA in July or August, I believe. I got it from T-Mobile, not one of their distributers, because I could control the family plan better, that we already had, and could request the area code I wanted (Also got a Samsung t-809 slide--a really cool phone).
Coming from an HP IPAQ 6315, I am VERY pleased with the MDA. However, I did not synch it with my Jensen B/T headphones because the driver wasn't compatible with WM5. More importantly, no matter what I tried I couldn't hook it up to my Garmin GPS 10--a B/T GPS unit that works AMAZINGLY well at finding your location--Both the headset and the Garmin work with the HP.
So I followed T-Mobile's directions to upgrade the MDA firmware to the ROM version 2.26.10.105 and I am SO glad I did!
The new version has its own A2DP driver, so the Jensens immediately synched beautifully.
The Garmin was trickier. I had to buy a registry editor--I went for Kilmist which works very nicely. You need to hack the registry to reveal the GPS Icon in the System tray.
The tree is:
Pocket PC\HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\ControlPanel\GPS Settings.
You delete ALL the keys under GPS Settings, especially the REDIRECT key.
I've read that you can switch the HIDE key from 1 to 0, but I couldn't get that to work--when I cleared the REDIRECT it worked.
Reboot, and the GPS Icon should appear. This allows you to tailor the device's COM port to match the GPS software from Garmin.
I'm not really crazy about the Windows Media Player--it's a pain to use, a pain to set up, and I have NO idea what MS was thinking. Instead, I use something called BetaPlayer both for movies and music. It's simple, clear, obvious, and you don't have to go through stupid gyrations to get either music or movies to it (it plays AVIs). When we travel, I'll rip movies using Pocket PC DVD (an nice, inexpensive pgm) to AVIs in the 15-225 meg range, and dump them to the Mini-SD card. BetaPlayer allows me to play them without any problem and rotates to landscape mode with a tap.
BetaPlayer is a free download, that Pocket PC DVD sets you up with. I THINK they have replaced it with an upgrade.
I can use it with AIM, but the return key on the keyboard doesn't "send"--so far I've had to tap the Send icon with the stylus--Is there a way around this?
eMail works very nicely--I route to my own account, not T-Mobile's, so I can get and send my mail. But it ALWAYS truncates the mail, forces you to click on it and re-download. Again, anybody have a way to fix this?
Compared to the HP IPAQ 6315, there's really no comparison. The HP has a bigger screen, but it's a bigger, bulkier unit and I don't notice a difference. It does just about everything better than the HP, and I don't have to soft-boot it every single day!
BIG plus on the MDA/Wizard--the antenna doesn't stick out so you can't break it off (I actually broke off the cover of the antenna on the HP in an airport--Had to replace the entire antenna assembly to replace the cover!)
I really like the SanDisk cards. I have 4 2-gig cards I bought on-line for about $40-$50 apiece (I forgot which). I THINK it was at Buy.com--not sure. I've never had a SanDisk card or flash drive fail or fail to connect. Yeah, 2g mini-SDs work just fine on this PDA.
The MDA is more like a thick cell phone than a PDA in size and feel. I hope to explore a lot more of its capabilities.
Hi, thanks for all the replies guys.
I've been trying to do as much research as possible before getting the phone.
Bigshoguns said:
unlock sim and CID then upgrade to 2.26
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Could you explain how to unlock SIM/CID? I tried following a sticky, but it seems some of these forum links are dead or different b/c of the new forum software. I think i have to use lokiwiz or something, but I cant seem to find it? If anyone can point that out plus give me instructions, I'd appreciate it.
Also, I'm a bit nervous about OC'ing the device. Do you do it in increments? How do you know when you've OC'd it too much, does it start to freeze or will it just not turn on or something?
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I can use it with AIM, but the return key on the keyboard doesn't "send"--so far I've had to tap the Send icon with the stylus--Is there a way around this?
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I've been doing some reading and I think I found an answer for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=985458&highlight=return#post985458
Not sure if you can do it with the regular AIM, but with the hacked AIM you could go to options/preferences and under IM/Chat/Mobile make sure "Enter Key Inserts Return" is unchecked.
Sorry if this is incorrect, I dont have an MDA and have never used one but I'm just going by some stuff I read.
Oh yeah, does anyone know when MDA II (USA) is coming out..I would feel a bit of buyers remorse if it's coming out soon and will be offered at an attractive price for new contracts. Oh well....MDA is still good, right?
Anymore help/suggestions would be greatful!
Thanks!
chroniX said:
Hi, thanks for all the replies guys.
I've been trying to do as much research as possible before getting the phone.
Could you explain how to unlock SIM/CID? I tried following a sticky, but it seems some of these forum links are dead or different b/c of the new forum software. I think i have to use lokiwiz or something, but I cant seem to find it? If anyone can point that out plus give me instructions, I'd appreciate it.
Also, I'm a bit nervous about OC'ing the device. Do you do it in increments? How do you know when you've OC'd it too much, does it start to freeze or will it just not turn on or something?
I've been doing some reading and I think I found an answer for you.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=985458&highlight=return#post985458
Not sure if you can do it with the regular AIM, but with the hacked AIM you could go to options/preferences and under IM/Chat/Mobile make sure "Enter Key Inserts Return" is unchecked.
Sorry if this is incorrect, I dont have an MDA and have never used one but I'm just going by some stuff I read.
Oh yeah, does anyone know when MDA II (USA) is coming out..I would feel a bit of buyers remorse if it's coming out soon and will be offered at an attractive price for new contracts. Oh well....MDA is still good, right?
Anymore help/suggestions would be greatful!
Thanks!
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T-Mobile makes you wait 90 days before they will give you the unlock code and procedure for free. But if you already are a customer you may be able to bully them into it sooner. I did because I added my MDA and T-809 phone to our family plan.
I don't know about the CID, but if you get the T-Mobile unlock that's all you need. The upgrade of the ROM, via the T-Mobile procedure and software is very easy and does NOT void the warranty.
Thanks about the AIM--I found another thread here yesterday where there is a modified version of AIM 2.0 that is FAR better than T-Mobile's and gives you the "return" key back, and allows you to force the sign-on. Apparently you don't have to pay for messaging with it--it's via Internet!
Little by little the MDA is becoming the PDA I always wanted.
chroniX said:
Hi, thanks for all the replies guys.
Could you explain how to unlock SIM/CID? I tried following a sticky, but it seems some of these forum links are dead or different b/c of the new forum software. I think i have to use lokiwiz or something, but I cant seem to find it? If anyone can point that out plus give me instructions, I'd appreciate it.
Also, I'm a bit nervous about OC'ing the device. Do you do it in increments? How do you know when you've OC'd it too much, does it start to freeze or will it just not turn on or something?
Thanks!
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for unlocking use Lokiwiz02b.zip which is found in the Xda ftp:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_FTP_Site
dont worry about overclocking - im running mine @ 224 with the 2.26 rom
i was overclocking @ 240 with the custom 2.24 - really helps out performance
for overclocking someone recommended Batterystatus which is a small neat program, using very little resources to manage the battery and overclock and its free
http://www.chi-tai.info/cs_BatteryStatus_XDA_Neo_WM5_iM_cs.htm
Whatever you do don't buy ShieldZone Screen Protector.
ZzFDKzZ said:
Whatever you do don't buy ShieldZone Screen Protector.
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Is that the same as Invisible Shield? I thought those were supposed to be good.
What would you recommend then?
If you plan to upgrade to the Official Tmobile 2.26 rom you do not need to unlock. It will handle all of that for you. Just make sure your battery power is over the suggest amount (I think its 50%) I have seen some nightmare stories here from people who didn't.

Telstra Alert to upgrade JasJam

Anyone know what it's for?
How would this effect someone that is running wm6 etc?
http://www.imate.com/jasjamsupport/
AdStar said:
Anyone know what it's for?
How would this effect someone that is running wm6 etc?
http://www.imate.com/jasjamsupport/
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The upgrade would wipe your current WM6 install and put you back to WM5 I would guess... so not really applicable to you!
Theres a radio upgrade in there. 1.38.30.10
Install it then install wm6 over it.
I still have to sort out what to apply from the extended rom file Telstra_ExtROM_1.31.305.107_JasJam.zip.
It has new services which i guess you have to pay to use, so it is a bit irrelevent and a waste of space, to most.
More info http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=301530&page=2&highlight=telstra
I have upgraded my Jasjam and it has much better signal quality but I haven't upgraded to WM6 because I was talking to someone from I-mate support and they said that they would be releasing a WM6 upgrade for the Jasjam within the next few months.
Hey guys,
When you upgrade to WM6, do any of you do a registry hack for the Telstra UMTS settings.
This thread on whirlpool talks about it (this is an old update for wm5)
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies-archive.cfm/664668.html
I am a little worried that using say black 2.0 the band selection is not quite right.

8525 Black 2.5 w/TomTom Go 910

After finally being able to get my Internet working through PDA connect I decided it was time to test out my Tomtom Go 910 with the new Black. When I was running the original cingular rom that came with the phone I was able to connect to TomTom Traffic and weather services only. Now after the upgrade it recognizes my phone but says that wireless data is not available? Is this due to the proxy issue with cingular or is it just that TomTom does not support WM6 at all yet? Or something else? I'm trying to decide if it would be better to revert back to a WM5 system because I really do like Black 2.5. Hopefully it may be a quick fix.
TomTom910 issue
hi buddy,
I'm in the same boat with my Vario II.
Went to WM6 (LVSW) on the phone and all of a sudden TomTom tells me the DUN connection is invalid (Data over Bluetooth I believe).
*VERY ANNOYING* ....
Same Problem Here with tomtom one V4, tried 7 different WM5 & WM6 Roms and 4 different radio roms, still same problem.
Trying to find the original roms to reflash, rather go back to WM5 than waste the 40 euros i paid for the plus services.
Original ROM
I've got a post out there asking where to find them, will pm you if anyone gets back to me mate.
Yet another device that doesn't support the silly PAN profile. Stupid MS developers thought they were doing us a favor by removing DUN.
At least they came to their senses and said they'll work on getting dun implemented again soon...
Anyone else have any luck with this?
sadly no luck, my spv took an unfortunate trip down 2 flights of stairs and replaced by insurance.
tomtom works on my new one ok, aslong as i dont flash it.
Nope
...not yet, still waiting for M$ to add DUN support back in from what I understand.
May be rolling back to WM5

Blackberry Connect

Is there anyway to get Blackberry connect to work on the TC? I've tried downloading it on the phone and activating it, but it just says pending?
If not what are some better ways of getting email to my TC besides Outlook thats built in!
Simply not at the moment....
Sorry I have tried everything but nothing do do...
We need to wait until a big company like voda, swisscom etc desides to support the Polaris.
Blackberry is blocked with a build number and exact Windows version from Microsoft including device type.
Have a good day
Romabn
New Rom comming soon
Hi, just got my Orbit 2 a couple of days ago from a shop. I told the guy that i wanted BB connect, and he said they didn't support it on the polaris. Then he told me (about 3 or 4 times) to keep an eye on the software update in the next days...i ask him and looks like this could be BB connect or WM7.
lets keep and eye and cross fingers!!
bardo said:
Hi, just got my Orbit 2 a couple of days ago from a shop. I told the guy that i wanted BB connect, and he said they didn't support it on the polaris. Then he told me (about 3 or 4 times) to keep an eye on the software update in the next days...i ask him and looks like this could be BB connect or WM7.
lets keep and eye and cross fingers!!
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Bardo - Any news on this?
Orbit 2 update
Hi guys, sorry not yet...
What do you guys think
DO you think that its possible that BBC will ever be available for the Polaris. I tried the BBC on wife Touch and it works so i tot it would be the same as well for the Polaris so i took a gamble and went to buy it when its available. Unfortunately, it didnt work......so loss the gamble, but it is a nice and light device as compared to my Kaiser.
What do you guys think. Any hope.
Blabckberry Connect
Hi,
I have understood that the Blackberry connect must work without problems on any WM6 device.
I'm just wait to conform this to by a TOUCH CRUISE. Please can anyone comfirm if BB Connect WORK or NOT WORK on Touch Cruise and why?
Thanks in advance
jakbru said:
Hi,
I have understood that the Blackberry connect must work without problems on any WM6 device.
I'm just wait to conform this to by a TOUCH CRUISE. Please can anyone comfirm if BB Connect WORK or NOT WORK on Touch Cruise and why?
Thanks in advance
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Not at the momment. But im hopeful as i have a smartphone vox and it was working then after a while it stopped working. However, maybe some operator have got the vox to be able to work, and from then onwards it started to work. I guess i may be wrong but its perhaps the build number is different as i reason to believe that the current windows devices are ver 6 and the tc is 6.1, maybe thats why it is not working, as i have tried the bb connect on the htc touch aka elf and it worked flawlessly, so best bet is to see when a suitable windows 6.1 cab is release perhaps ver .92 or .93 then the tc will work.
BB Connect and Cruise
Thanks a lot....! I wait for confirmation on BB Connect before buy Cruise......
About BBC ... Guys! BBC check your OS Version and Device ID!! If you use custom Roms and they have a newer OS Version or a bad modded Device ID, you cant connect to the bbc network! Most time it works with the Original delivered rom only!
HTC Niki works with BBC 4.0, but it doesnt with a new cooked Rom.
Next ... if your Cell Phone Provider hasnt the right to use BBC 4.0, the Black Berry Network drops your PIN and you cant connect again!
You see ... a lot of parameters and licencings can make troubles!
Ergo ... if you use WM6.1 -> BBC drops your PIN!!!
BBC with brand new HTC Cruise......?
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About BBC ... Guys! BBC check your OS Version and Device ID!! If you use custom Roms and they have a newer OS Version or a bad modded Device ID, you cant connect to the bbc network! Most time it works with the Original delivered rom only!
HTC Niki works with BBC 4.0, but it doesnt with a new cooked Rom.
Next ... if your Cell Phone Provider hasnt the right to use BBC 4.0, the Black Berry Network drops your PIN and you cant connect again!
You see ... a lot of parameters and licencings can make troubles!
Ergo ... if you use WM6.1 -> BBC drops your PIN!!!
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Each time I read more ...I'm more confused.... !
I just need to know, if with a out of the box Touch Cruise in Spain, I will be able to use on Vodafone net, BBC with my company BB Enterprise.
I understand in the message of xphobic that HTC Touch Cruise comes with WM 6.1, Is that correct?
Thanks
Jakbru
I'm a BB-connect user, but I'm thinking of buying the Touch Cruise. My network, Rogers supports BB-connect. Will BB-connect work? This is an important feature for me.
Hi, neither Rogers or Fido support BBC for anything other than nokia. You can install BBC but it will not generate a PIN. If anyone got to generate a PIN please let me know.
I'm running BB-connect on my Nokia E90. It generated a PIN automatically and I've been running it for the past two months. I need to know if the Touch Cruise supports BB-connect as well.
I was not able to set it up.
bardo said:
Hi, just got my Orbit 2 a couple of days ago from a shop. I told the guy that i wanted BB connect, and he said they didn't support it on the polaris. Then he told me (about 3 or 4 times) to keep an eye on the software update in the next days...i ask him and looks like this could be BB connect or WM7.
lets keep and eye and cross fingers!!
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I had a response from someone quite senior in o2 in the UK - they do not intend to support Blackberry connect because RIM are stopping development on the client.
jontymisra said:
I'm running BB-connect on my Nokia E90. It generated a PIN automatically and I've been running it for the past two months. I need to know if the Touch Cruise supports BB-connect as well.
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On a distribution WWE rom yes, on any other ROM, no.
I haven't heard of anyone able to get BBC working on the Cruise. This was discussed in another thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=376889
Another place where this was discussed is here:
http://www.sems.org/entry.asp?ENTRY_ID=276
I'm getting mixed answers. Some say it'll work with original ROM, not with cooked, some say it wont work at all. I'm worried now, I'm picking up a TC like tomorrow, and this is an important feature for me.
veerals05 said:
Is there anyway to get Blackberry connect to work on the TC? I've tried downloading it on the phone and activating it, but it just says pending?
If not what are some better ways of getting email to my TC besides Outlook thats built in!
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Possible in Germany on o2's release ROM I read somewhere.
If you are not using a release WM6 Pro Rom it wont work has been my experience with other devices.
o2 UK say that RIM are about to stop developing for the BBC for Windows Mobile and so they say they are no longer going to offer BBC support for new models.
HTH
Leon

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