I'm sorry if i'm not the first who askes this:
- is there any way to connect to lan trough buetooth?
I've got the orange spv m600.
Is there a widcom driver for this?
Thanx a lot for your help
No, that's what WiFi is for.
Yeah, i know, but at home i've got a bluetooth acces point which i use to connect 2 laptops to lan. So i also wanted to do this with the prophet.
Now i have to use a computer with active sync to connect to the internet, but i cant acces lan that way.
Good Question
Wifi aside......it would be handy if we could use bluetooth to connect to the lan setup even if just to transfer files. Theres a program for palm that does a similar idea. But I guess really it IS down to having to use wifi for now.
Bluetooth security has always worried me anyway.
bluezard
I can transfer files with bluezard on wm5 using filetransfer profile
other options for lan and other profiles are also there but i have no way of testing them
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Hi all,
I've been following the Widcom port across to the XDA-II, not because I want to attach a GPS, but because of the much expanded feature set.
I installed the BluetoothGPS.zip file, then activated all the new services offered by the phone.
I have a Belkin F8T001 USB Adapter in my broadband PC. I want to use BT to surf the net from the XDA without paying O2. Trouble is, my Belkin doesn't provide an Activesync Profile, so it can't be done. Until now, that is.
Belkin USB adapters offer a 'Network Access' service. The Widcom stack now allows the XDA to wireless network with my PC, map drives with Resco Explorer, surf the net without the bother of Activesync, oh, and Activesync over BT Wireless LAN if you like. The PC acts very much like a WiFi access point.
Another excellent bonus is the ability to browse the PDA with the BT 'File Transfer' Service. This is easier than browsing through Activesync, as you can open picture files directly without having to transfer them to the PC first.
Nice one guys, well done!
Steve Head
And where can I download these drivers ?
Sounds like a solution. Where???? :lol:
Here:
ftp://dgmatic.com/XDA2/BluetoothGPS/
Login: xda
Pass: xda
is there a current url for an up to date version of the widcomm stack which can be directly installed?
PAN vs LAP Bluetooth Profile on XDA / iMate
G'day All,
Thanks for the post on Net access - It's not as easy as it looks (having spent AGES getting iPAQs working with Bluetooth Dongles (BTW: You DO need 1.3.2.7 of the Widcomm Stack on XP to make PAN connections work!!!
My question is:
Has anyone managed to work out how to get PAN or LAP Network Bluetooth access going on an XDA II??
I can easily get a PAN network access connection going on an iPAQ 5550 (with the identical Widcomm stack version) - On the XDA II with the Widcomm stack installed, it defaults to a LAP profile... (Using BT Null Modem). I can't get this method working with internet access.
If I connect XP to the iMate, then the PAN driver is used on the PDA - BUT I can't get any traffic through (this is the same on the iPaq and the iMate).
Anyone got any clues / hints for me, please?!?! (ROM versions etc are latest).
Cheers.
Andrew
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acurtis007 said:
G'day All,
If I connect XP to the iMate, then the PAN driver is used on the PDA - BUT I can't get any traffic through (this is the same on the iPaq and the iMate).
Anyone got any clues / hints for me, please?!?! (ROM versions etc are latest).
Cheers.
Andrew
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Hi,
I'd same the problem, but since I enabled service Personal Network Sever, then at PC side connect to Xda II, it's working, I can ping from / to Xda II.
(enable service by start > setting > bluetooth > from File Transfer to Personal Network Server, I checked them all)
But it's problem to connect via Xda II to PC, then I restarted PC and PPC and make new shortcut of PC Network Access.
Now it's working I can use Resco file explorer to map driver of PC share folder and get access to file. But it's seem unstable because it's hang sometime.
ps: Thank so much to the great person who made bluetoothgps.zip.
cairo31male said:
Here:
ftp://dgmatic.com/XDA2/BluetoothGPS/
Login: xda
Pass: xda
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I could not login. Thanks anyway.
bluetooth zip file not available anymore
I tried the url, but is is not responding anymore with ftp and the username and password. Has anyone it for me??
I'd very much like to get hold of this file as well, same problem - user/pass doesn't work anymore.
Probably don't need another "me too" but I have been searching for this stack high and low! Please let us know where we can get it!
Immense thanks!
I have BluetoothGPS.zip (about 2Megs zipped) give me somewhere to upload it & i will.
That's a shame, it used to be on ftp://hydrosphere:[email protected]/ but it's gone now. I've obviously got it, but I'm damned if I'm hosting it as it's 'unlicenced software'.
Any suggestions?
As acurtis007 pointed out, it's not easy to do this even on the correct PDA. If you do get hold of the Widcom stack, you need to understand networking and a little voodoo to surf the net.
One advantage is that the BT Dongle in your PC becomes like an access point. You no longer have to set up an Activesync Partnership, so a PC can be logged in as anybody, and any PDA(s) can surf.
Here's the way to get Surfing over BT using proper IP NAT:
Your XP PC
Your installed BT Dongle should offer a Local Service called 'Network Access'. This should be started automatically, and creates a 'Bluetooth LAN Access Server' interface in your Network Connections. This is the important bit: Activate 'Internet Connection Sharing' on your LAN Card. Select the Bluetooth LAN Adapter as the Interface you want to share with. If you don't have a LAN card, then share whatever interface connects to the Internet.
If your LAN Card already has an ip address that starts with 192.168.0. then you're out of luck. You'll have to change the entire setup of your LAN to another Subnet. I chose 192.168.50.x, which is fine.
If you have correctly activated ICS, your BT LAN Interface will have the IP address 192.168.0.1, and your Internet device will have a hand under it's Icon.
You're XP PC is now ready to accept Bluetooth surfers - both of the Internet and your LAN.
The XDA-II
Bung in the Widcom Stack
Run the Lovely new Bluetooth Connection Wizard and Explore. You'll see a PC icon appear, tap it. You should be offered a range of services, depending on what make of BT Dongle you have. Select 'Network Access'. A Shortcut appears. Hold the stylus down on the Icon, and select Connect from the pop-up. You will have to do the PIN thing as you connect the 2 devices. The XDA's Bluetooth Null Modem then connects to the PC, and hello broadband.
The stack is very stable. I've been using it for 2 weeks now every day for both surfing and file transfers.
It's not perfect - beware
This is a hack, and therefore does not operate entirely correctly:
You will ALWAYS get an error message when first initialising the new stack. I'm used to it: Start Bluetooth - it fails; Start Bluetooth again - it runs. This happens every time, and I just live with it. Once it's up, I can surf till the battery dies.
You will need to reset your XDA-II's Connection Settings (Advanced - Select Networks) back to 'My ISP' where it says 'Programs that....Internet..'
Others on this forum have reported that the XDA's sound gets disabled when you uninstall the Widcom cab file. I haven't had cause to do this as I'm 100% keeping it. This is the advice I've seen posted:
"Uninstalling Widcom Stack
If you have the Widcom stack go to the WIDCOM BT-manager Audio gateway tab and Disable this before uninstalling. Sound should then remain actve."
So there you go - it works a treat.
Steve Head
If you want a bit of fun, try this:
Get yer Widcom network access up 'n' running
Put a TV Tuner Card into the PC with the BT Dongle attached, and hook up your Sky Box to the TV Card.
Download the free 'Microsoft Media Encoder'
Using Media Encoder, Run a Live Broadcast, and select 'Pocket PC Widescreen' as the target audience. Your Sky Box output (or whatever) is now being converted into a TCP/IP Stream at the sort of data rate your XDA can handle.
To watch Sky on your XDA all round the house, run Media Player on your XDA and enter the url http://192.168.0.1:80 (assuming you're connected via BT). You can also do this with a Webcam, and remotely monitor it full screen on your PDA.
Steve Head
sorry i forgot i could just attached it
Enjoy
It works
@ArcticCat
Thank you! (I nearly was loosing hope!)
1000 kisses, beers or whatever...
Pauline
Thanks I could kiss you all.
now for the winge.
As the XDA connects to the LAN over a BT null modem. It seems to be quite slow.
Is this due to the settings of the modem restricted to 11500 baud rate limit for the hardware?
Whilst i am at it. let me throw this in the works.
The XDAII connects via BT to a PC on the network. I can browse the network from the PC. But i can only browse the files on the PC that i am directly connected to via BT from the XDA as well as access the internet. Is this normal?
IP address is 192.168.0.1 on BT adapter. The LAN connection of the PC is 192.168.11.5 ( auto ip).
all other PCs on the network are in the 192.168.11.x range.
Any suggestions?
Cheers
Oorbz
As the XDA connects to the LAN over a BT null modem. It seems to be quite slow.
Is this due to the settings of the modem restricted to 11500 baud rate limit for the hardware?
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I found out that the speed networking over BT is slower than expected. Any others having problems for repaly MP3s on their XDA. I think the max speed over BT is 1MBit. Whith all protocol things you schould get min 500kBit. But I have problems playing MP3s with mor than 192kBit, The XDE "feels" very slow. - any ideas?
But i can only browse the files on the PC that i am directly connected to via BT from the XDA as well as access the internet.
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Oorbz: To conect to your home LAN you need to set up a Networking bridge (Because your network is devided in 2 segments). Using windows xp its included. Mark both network adapter and choose "Network bridge". After that you only configure the bridge and both networks are conected under one subnet mask. Sometimes BT-Adapters are not fully compatible with the network bridge. Then you need to do 2 little steps:
On the console type in:
Code:
netsh bridge show adapter
then type in
Code:
netsh bridge set adapter # forcecompatmode=enable
# stands for the Number of your BT Adapter.
Thats it. Now you have access to your complete LAN and NAT-Router. Using a fix IP on your XDA will speed up the start of the conection, but DHCP works fine too. All computers whould now have an IP from the same subnet liek 192.168.0.# / 255.255.255.0.
PS using a WLAN adapter some drivers need this settings too in order to work with the windows XP networking bridge.
On the console type in:
Code:
netsh bridge show adapter
then type in
Code:
netsh bridge set adapter # forcecompatmode=enable
# stands for the Number of your BT Adapter.
Thats it. Now you have access to your complete LAN and NAT-Router. Using a fix IP on your XDA will speed up the start of the conection, but DHCP works fine too. All computers whould now have an IP from the same subnet liek 192.168.0.# / 255.255.255.0.
PS using a WLAN adapter some drivers need this settings too in order to work with the windows XP networking bridge.
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I tried the network bridge a few days ago with the card in compatiblity mode. but i will give it another go . I will repor back. Thanks
Hi
You mentioned the Belkin BT adaptor. That is about 30 odd pounds. Are all BT adaptors the same? i.e. do they just implement some version of the protocol? Seems the Belkin one implements v1.1.
How about this one, will it also do the job?
http://www.qtds.com/code/products.asp?recid=621&
Costs about 15 pounds, so much cheaper
btw, if your laptop already has BT built in, do you need to buy a dongle?
I've been trying to setup a network between my XDA iis and my desktop PC. I want to be able to access the internet connection which my pc has on broadband, and to access the pc's files and printer. Also to access the xda files from the pc via shared folders etc.
My setup is a bluetooth usb adaptor pluggedinto the pc with belkin software installed. The xda has BT already on it.
I have no idea how to go about now etting up the connection between them. I think what I need is a VPN but I'm not sure.
Please can anyone talk me through the setup, it's driving me mad to a point of disliking the xda?
Bluetooth can be a pain, and not particularly fast compared to wifi.
Synopsis:
You don't need to use VPN, just a standard bluetooth serial port (eg Com 6), use PC's activesync to connect through eg Com6 and set your PDA to activesync through bluetooth.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=26479&highlight=bluetooth
V
Well i originally had a wifi card on the advice of a pc store, and was told I could set it up peer to peer without a router. This was a complete failure and in the end they swapped it for BT card instead. Is it going to be easier and more reliable to setup a router for wifi rather than peer to peer?
you can only get data over bluetooth with the ms stack if you are connected to activesync using bluetooth
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=2417
http://www.geekzone.co.nz/content.asp?contentid=3163
the problem is tha it dont support the PEN profile
of cause if your bluetooth stack is vidcomm or broadcom then look here
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=InternetOverBluetoothNetwork
Hello all,
i am a newbie, so i am sorry if there is already a topic on this, as i have been searching and searching, and just cant seem to find anything that seems to directly help.
My laptop, connects to the net via an ethernet cable, and i would then like to connect to my laptop via wi-fi with my wizard.
I have managed to somehow create a ad-hoc connection to my laptop via wi-fi, which i believe is some kind of P2P thingy.
However i am unable to map a network drive in resco explorer, and everytime i go on to internet explorer i get a little message stating that the page can not be displayed.
am i missing something somewhere, or is this just not possiable.
Thanks in advance.
norf1983 said:
Hello all,
i am a newbie, so i am sorry if there is already a topic on this, as i have been searching and searching, and just cant seem to find anything that seems to directly help.
My laptop, connects to the net via an ethernet cable, and i would then like to connect to my laptop via wi-fi with my wizard.
I have managed to somehow create a ad-hoc connection to my laptop via wi-fi, which i believe is some kind of P2P thingy.
However i am unable to map a network drive in resco explorer, and everytime i go on to internet explorer i get a little message stating that the page can not be displayed.
am i missing something somewhere, or is this just not possiable.
Thanks in advance.
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I'm not really sure that you can do this at least not the way i think you are trying to do it. I didn't think laptops could act as access points which is what you need. If your laptop has bluetooth then you could create a connection using it and map a drive from the Wizard to the laptop.
Kirby
It can be done.
I did the same thing before, now i prefer to use bluetooth, but it definitly can be done.
first, i created an ad hoc connection between my wizard and the pc's belkini usb wifi adapter. then i mapped the shared folder on my laptop with total commander. i must say i had problems doing it with rescos explorer, maybe thats the catch. anyway, i was able to browse through my drive with no problems, mp3, small avi etc. it can be done!
and here goes the question to rkwhyte2: i'have been trying to acces my pc's shared folder using bluetooth active sync connection with no luck, how to do it? i've been looking for an answer since 2 months...
banannq said:
and here goes the question to rkwhyte2: i'have been trying to acces my pc's shared folder using bluetooth active sync connection with no luck, how to do it? i've been looking for an answer since 2 months...
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Sorry for butting in....
I don't know about accessing shared folder through BT, but after trying and trying AND trying, I was finally able to do an activesync through BT. The catch was to make sure PC has a BT "COM port" assigned. and then create partnership with PC's "Activesync" service (I had 3 listed..Dialup net,Activesync, and headset).
OOOOPS, almost forgot. make sure in Activesync settings that "Allow connections to one of the following" is set to the COM port assigned to BT.
ntegra said:
Sorry for butting in....
I don't know about accessing shared folder through BT, but after trying and trying AND trying, I was finally able to do an activesync through BT. The catch was to make sure PC has a BT "COM port" assigned. and then create partnership with PC's "Activesync" service (I had 3 listed..Dialup net,Activesync, and headset).
OOOOPS, almost forgot. make sure in Activesync settings that "Allow connections to one of the following" is set to the COM port assigned to BT.
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You have had much better luck than I and the steps you have listed are pretty much all you need. My problem has always been getting the com ports that I needed. I am currently running Faria's aku3 ROM and it uses internet sharing and so uses bluetooth as a PAN. Makes life quite a bit easier all I had to do was tell the phone to use bluetooth PAN instead of USB and I was able to use map a drive between the phone and my PC.
Kirby
ntegra said:
Sorry for butting in....
I don't know about accessing shared folder through BT, but after trying and trying AND trying, I was finally able to do an activesync through BT. The catch was to make sure PC has a BT "COM port" assigned. and then create partnership with PC's "Activesync" service (I had 3 listed..Dialup net,Activesync, and headset).
OOOOPS, almost forgot. make sure in Activesync settings that "Allow connections to one of the following" is set to the COM port assigned to BT.
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yes, thats all right, thats exactly what i use. a bit tricky but still easy thing to do, thats why i didn't list the steps. so as i said i have activesync connection working both on usb and BT, i can use my pc's net connection while hooked to pc and so on and so on. the only thing is that i can acces my drive using Async usb, and i can'd using Async BT. question is why... i went even looking into bluetooth drivers settings on my pc, but no luck here... and since several weeks noone seems to know the answer...
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You have had much better luck than I and the steps you have listed are pretty much all you need. My problem has always been getting the com ports that I needed. I am currently running Faria's aku3 ROM and it uses internet sharing and so uses bluetooth as a PAN. Makes life quite a bit easier all I had to do was tell the phone to use bluetooth PAN instead of USB and I was able to use map a drive between the phone and my PC.
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I'm not exactly sure what PAN is, could you explain it please? is it personal area network? where do you set this?
I seem to be missing the Wireless modem app. Supposed to be in the programs folder, right? Using vp3Gs WM6. I'm trying to use my 8525 as a bluetooth fax. I have been searching the threads and internet, all instructions point to this program, but I don't know why it is not on my phone. Also, when I discover available services on my phone from my laptop, Dial up networking does not show up, how come? Please help.
Edit: DUN and internet sharing now working, still working on BT fax
DUN
With WM6 you have Internet Sharing. DUN is no longer included.
If you hook up your laptop via the USB cable to the phone and run Internet Sharing you will be fully connected to the internet.
Good luck mate,
Andrew
OK, thanks for the help. Now what about using the phone as a bluetooth fax modem?
mccreath said:
With WM6 you have Internet Sharing. DUN is no longer included.
If you hook up your laptop via the USB cable to the phone and run Internet Sharing you will be fully connected to the internet.
Good luck mate,
Andrew
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Well so it should on WM5 as well be but for some reason i can only use the internet sharing via bluetooth only when
1. launch internet sharing on Tytn and connect with Bluetooth PAN
2. Launch mobile internet explorer and navigate a page or 2 on the tytn.
3. launch bluetooth network connection onlaptop and connect.
4. restart IE or Firefox on laptop and cross your fingers,
it never has worked when doing via USB.
annoying because i run out of power often when using bluetooth for any legnth of time
BT Fax
If you do a search in the WM6 forum you will see a post about BT DUN on WM6. I got it working for my TomTom 910, BT Fax ought to be the same.
Edit:
go to the last post on the first page
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=314371
Bluetooth fax?
OK, so far, so good.
I used the above links and got internet sharing and DUN to work over bluetooth. Any info on getting BT faxing to work. When I go to my laptops (Dell xps m1210) control panel, phones and modems, I see BT modem, and BT faxmodem, but when I query them under the diagnostics screen, it says the modem fails to respond.
Hi
I have been searching for a way to get Bluetooth Networking up between my Laptop(WIDCOMM STACK) and rw6828(WM5). But couldnt get it done.
I have Paried both Laptop and 6828. ActiveSync is up and working fine.
I want to have a bluetooth networking enabled between the laptop and 6828 so that I can use VNC client to control the PC through bluetooth network without having Activesync. But when I read the PC i could see only Serial Port, ActiveSync and Dialup Networking. I couldnt see Network Access.
I could get few links on the net but all of them are representing WM2003.
Does WM5 support this kind of configuration?
Can any one direct me to a step-by-step guide?
Thanks in advance
Can anyone let me know how to enable the networking on Bluetooth+WinXP+WM5?
hi parakash , i think i know you , do you work in garment sector.
anyway after pairing the device with the laptop, you have to connections
and you will find your laptop name there, just follow the line.
Hi Solo
Thanks for the reply. I could Pair with my laptop successfully. But couldnt find Network Connections there after. So wondering if this feature is support on WM5?
BTW I m not in Garment sector.
Portable 3G/HSDPA WiFi Router
Is anyone aware of such an item?
Ideally incl a car charger?
Or is it is possible to turn a WM5/WM6 phone into a portable WiFI AP ?