Phone quality of Trinity and some other questions. - P3600 General

Hello all.
I'm actually falling in love with Trinity but I'd like to ask about the quality of the phone module of this PPC.
I mean, is it ok as a phone? Has anyone encountered any problems such as echo, digital noise, etc? A lot of PPCs have these problems [for example 1) users can hear their own echo, 2) the other party can hear his echo, 3) digital noise when they speak, etc].
Some people mentioned that the now enabled GPS only works when the radio module is working, meaning that when you remove the sim card (so GSM or GPRS are not working) then the GPS module does not work. Is this really happening to anyone?
I'm also concerned about two other things...
First thing is the lock options for the phone. I know it doesn't have any lock button so what are the options for the locking of the phone or the screen? I mean if you have it in your pocket locked and it rings, and one button is pressed accidentally, does it mean that you are unlucky?
Second thing is the task manager. Is there any application that we can use to map it to a keyboard button so that we can switch tasks? Let's say I'm running a navigation application, and I want to switch to the phone pad to make a call, how could this be done?
Finally, what about the memory handling and the rom memory? How much free ram is available when you turn on the mobile (with the initial applications that come with the phone, or/and with the latest -enabling GPS - rom)? And how much free rom is available with the original rom and with the customized one (the one that enables GPS)?
I would appreciate it if you could answer some of these questions.
thanx in advance

starkman said:
Hello all.
I'm actually falling in love with Trinity but I'd like to ask about the quality of the phone module of this PPC.
I mean, is it ok as a phone? Has anyone encountered any problems such as echo, digital noise, etc? A lot of PPCs have these problems [for example 1) users can hear their own echo, 2) the other party can hear his echo, 3) digital noise when they speak, etc].
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It's more than OK as a phone!
starkman said:
Some people mentioned that the now enabled GPS only works when the radio module is working, meaning that when you remove the sim card (so GSM or GPRS are not working) then the GPS module does not work. Is this really happening to anyone?
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I am not using the GPS ROM yet but keep in mind that removing the SIM card from the Trinity is so uncomfortable that it's not something you want to do very often!
starkman said:
I'm also concerned about two other things...
First thing is the lock options for the phone. I know it doesn't have any lock button so what are the options for the locking of the phone or the screen? I mean if you have it in your pocket locked and it rings, and one button is pressed accidentally, does it mean that you are unlucky?
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There are several lock options, some requiring a password to unlock. When the phone is locked and you receive a call the only button to work is the answer key, which is pretty much the same as with all other phones.
starkman said:
Second thing is the task manager. Is there any application that we can use to map it to a keyboard button so that we can switch tasks? Let's say I'm running a navigation application, and I want to switch to the phone pad to make a call, how could this be done?
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Whatever application you are using if you press the "call" button you will go straight to the phone pad.
starkman said:
Finally, what about the memory handling and the rom memory? How much free ram is available when you turn on the mobile (with the initial applications that come with the phone, or/and with the latest -enabling GPS - rom)? And how much free rom is available with the original rom and with the customized one (the one that enables GPS)?
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I don't know with the new GPS ROM but with the standard HTC ROM I think you get about 40MB of storage and 40MB for program execution after a hard reset.

Ok thanx for the reply.
I hope with the new roms that are being released the free storage space will be greater. 40 MB is not that good. I've had 63 MB at my Asus P525.

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Curious, how many of you are running skype? Try this

This is just something I stumbled across a while ago but haven't had the time to post it. I'm not making any promises so this is just a head's up.
If anyone remembers my last post on skype here, you'll recall me saying that there's a Disable Codecs key in the registry. Well I didn't know the codecs but SkypeSmart over at Skype forums posted this tweak for his iPaq and it works a treat.
I'm running my Mini S with the original ROM and skype with my key reading: ILBC G729 EG711U
As a result it only uses the EG711A codec and guess what, it works, at stock speed too. My phone is an utter mess but it works at an acceptable level that is to say both parties can hear the conversation without any hiccups. Tested over a WiFi link but be warned you'll lose connectivity with echo123 and it also seems to me that Skype Linux doesn't have the EG711A or EG711U or even the G729 codecs so you won't be able to chat with them unless you enable ILBC.
One thing worth testing is to see what happens in a conference call (with a Windows machine as host and a Linux machine and the wizard with some of the codecs disabled) but I don't have the time to test so be my guest and post the results if you do test it.
By the way, I use Skype v2 Feb 14 release. If anyone wants to post their overclocked results or anything, great.
Indeed it does work and VERY well. I just called across a very sketchy broadband connection and audio in BOTH ways was clear. Before, I could be heard by the other party but could not hear them in return. Once I overclocked, I could actually have a couple of pragrams running in the background and still have acceptable resources left. Bravo to whoever came up with this tweak.
How far did you overclock? Also, I know a lot of people are viewing this thread but only one response so far...does that mean the rest of you are enjoying Skype? :shock:
i use skype with my wizard very well and i can use skypeout as well.
i installed for the high cpu usage, not low cpu usage. but i also use omapoverclock.
what i did, just installed skype, then change the content of d shortcut using total commander in windows/start menu/programs/skype.lnk with this one:
46#"\program files\omapclock.exe" -clock 240 -launch "\Program Files\Skype for Pocket PC\Skype.exe" -restore?Program Files\Skype for Pocket PC\Skype.exe,
in this case, i put omapclock file in 'program files' folder, and don't forget to use "," sign in the last content of skype. because it gives u back d skype icon, otherwise u'll see omapclock icon.
Gut luck!!! and i hope this can be useful 4 u...
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i remember trying this on my wizard...i placed a call to a land phone and i could not hear the other phone ring or anything.. but t did call..
What am i doing wrong?
Thanks Ricky, that trick with Omapoverclock works a treat. By the way not sure if it is my imagination but sounds like the I am getting the call playing through my handsfree speaker and not the ear piece. Does anyone else get this or am I going mad????
jt_armstrong said:
Thanks Ricky, that trick with Omapoverclock works a treat. By the way not sure if it is my imagination but sounds like the I am getting the call playing through my handsfree speaker and not the ear piece. Does anyone else get this or am I going mad????
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You're not. Apparently the M600 is the only phone which might support non-speakerphone chat on skype. I heard that its latest ROM does exactly what you want it do. I don't know if its a Skype specific issue or whether it's ROM specific but I have not seen any apps other than the phone app itself take advantage of the earpiece.
@guyver2077:
If you're referring to the tweak I listed, what does it do when you call PCs? I made a skype out call actually 3 of them and I could hear all of them clearly - 1 to Guam , 2 to HK and I'm in the UK.
@Ricky:
Does 240MHz eat away at the battery life, especially with WiFi on?
I just spent the last few days setting up a Linksys NSLU2 with DebianSlug and it works great; Samba works with the phone too 8). A little tempted to get a bluetooth dongle to stick to the slug so that I can connect to the net over bluetooth when possible but the BT stack on the mobile doesn't support BT networking does it?
ok.. so does this only work with speakerphone on?? i didnt hear anything through the actual phone ear reciever
guyver2077 said:
ok.. so does this only work with speakerphone on?? i didnt hear anything through the actual phone ear reciever
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When I said speakerphone I meant simply that the sound is coming out at the same volume as media player, etc if that makes sense. There's no reason for you not to be able to hear a thing though. :?
Thanks AsGF2MX, It works great with the headfones I just don't normally use them.
guyver2077 said:
ok.. so does this only work with speakerphone on?? i didnt hear anything through the actual phone ear reciever
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If you think about it, it makes sense. This is Skype for Pocket PC, most Pocket PCs don't have the phone built in.
Do you have a BT headset? If so open the audio gateway (either using the program posted in this forum or via Voice Command press BT button and just say "Open Skype", the Audio gate will stay open).
This should allow you to use your BT headset for Skype calls.
kyphur said:
guyver2077 said:
ok.. so does this only work with speakerphone on?? i didnt hear anything through the actual phone ear reciever
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If you think about it, it makes sense. This is Skype for Pocket PC, most Pocket PCs don't have the phone built in.
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I suppose you're right, that would explain things but is there an option to actually channel audio to the ear piece? If not, then it's definitely an issue with the way the device ROMs are designed (assuming that there is a way for software to utilize the ear piece).
Well, I'm glad a few people found it useful and I hope it's working for the rest of you as well. I might just pick-up OMAP clock a little later and try to see how well an overclock fares on my device but first, I'm going to try a few apps I've been wanting to try for a while.
Great tip!
I have previously tried Skype on my Qtek 9100 but have always found the audio quality quite bad, even when overclocking to 240.
After changing the DisableCodecs as suggested here, the audio quality is now really good, also when using SkypeOut to a Fixednet phone.
Thanks for the tip!
Yes Great tip, thanks
Can someone point me in the direction of the program that opens the audio gateway?
I don't have MS Voice Command, I only have the default "Voice Speed Dial".
EDIT: FOUND IT!!!
Therez two actually. one is btAudio, and the other is VjVolubilis
After Skype Install - Alarm clock chaos
Hi
I have been reading this thread with interest. I own an old XDA (one with aerial) and now the XDA Mini S. Have had it now for about 6 months and sync up to 2 pc's, have multiple email accounts, use the Wifi/msn - so use pretty much all of functionality. Happy so far!
I installed the pocket pc version of Skype last night - and found that this morning my alarm went off - but with no options displayed on the screen to snooze/dismiss alarm! Consequently - the alarm/vibrate goes off every 5 minutes - and only thing i can do is remove the battery -so phone basically unusable. Soft reset does not help - and would rather not hard reset as then will have to redo email settings etc.
Anyone out there had this problem before? Your help would be appreciated (think you are calling the XDA mini a wizard)
OS Build: 5.1.70 (14406.1.1.1)
ROM: 1.5.4.2 WWE
ROM date: 11/8/05
Radio: 01.09.10
Protocol: 4.0.13.20
ExtROM: 1.5.4.103
Have you removed the Skype software already?
After Skype Install - Alarm clock chaos
Hi - Yes, I have removed Skype from the XDA Mini. Soft-reset again - no difference.
I had that alarm problem once.
I'd had my cingular 8125 (HTC wizard) for a week or two and had been putting apps on it and messing with the registry, then one morning my alarm went off, I reached over to silence it, pushed some random button accidentally, and the alarm kept on going. I opened my eyes and sat there for a minute waiting for my brain to boot up because I wasn't seeing the notice showing me which softkey to press. After awhile, I realized that I was completely awake, and there really was no way to turn the alarm off!
I messed around with that thing forever. Scrolling through menus, doing soft resets, etc. Nothing would silence the alarm. I tried reseting the time/date and doing a soft reset, but every time the device booted up, it would go nuts with alarm tones (they kept multiplying! Every time I would reset the time after having set it back, another alarm would go off and they started piling up!).
Boy, that really ruined my morning.
I ended up having to do a hard reset to fix the problem. And when I ran my latest backup, the problem came right back! So I had to do another hard reset and roll back to an earlier backup.
I really don't know what the problem was, but I think I might have a slight idea. I had downloaded some program called CheckNotifications by Scarybear software (I now know it's not meant for WM5) and I think I must have deleted that alarm notification from the "notification database". (No, I don't actually know what any of that means, I'm just regurgitating words I read online in a manner which seems to make a little sense). So some parte of the OS somewhere remembered the alarm, and turned it on at the right time, but the part of the OS responsible for giving you the facility to turn it off was screwed. But that's just a wild guess.
Maybe you also have some issue with your notification database.
Good luck! Of course, if you were anywhere near as annoyed as I was, you probably already said a few (dozen) choice curse words and did a hard reset.
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To long to anwser calls

Hello : my jasjar takes to long to anwser calls...
Any help or tweek...
Thnks a Lot
Upgrade the radio ROM - It'd be helpful to know what version you have installed on your device
Sorry ...the latest from club imate...
Thnks
A version number would have been slightly more useful ...
As to upgrading the radio, that isn't the solution. I'm running 1.11.00 and still suffer the delay in ringing.
I got round this by asking Orange to turn off the answering machine completely for my line. It rings for ages now =)
some ppl claim that by using tweak2k, you can remove the 3 second delay for ringing.
vapor said:
some ppl claim that by using tweak2k, you can remove the 3 second delay for ringing.
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yes, the tweak is there in both tweaks 2k PC as well as PPC versions
1. dont use ring tones on sd card
2. dont use pictures, and if you must, try not to be located on sd card
3. minimise the number of contacts you actually use (some have reported 6000 contacts and wonder why it launches slow!)
4. if you dont use video calls, use the normal skin, not the video skin for your phone (details on wiki)
5. try to use either contacts or sim card for contacts not both
6. set the time before it goes to voicemail to 30 seconds rather than 15 seconds

How to record a call with a single press on hardware button?

Hi,
I'm looking for a too that allows me to assign a hardware button of choice that starts/stops recording an phonecall.
I'm really looking for a lightweight tool that can do it.
I know notes can do that, but that takes too much actions to start recording.
I just want to be able to record a phoneconversation quickly as soon as I think I need to record it.
Thanks in advance
how can one record conversation in notes?
what is the procedure?
I still didn't findany tool as requested in the initial post.
Any ideas?
why do you expect an answer to your question when youre not answering yourself?
1. I don't know the answer to your question (I saw it somewhere else on the forum tough)
2. Your question is offtopic.
Btw, you didn't answer on my question either.
Please help me out if you have the answer to my question.
In your first post you said that you know how to record a phonecall using notes but that takes too much actions to start recording.
And then I ask you how to perform that and now you say that you don't know how to do it.
I'm sorry but I don't know the answer to your question but you know the answer to my question.
dpetrek said:
In your first post you said that you know how to record a phonecall using notes but that takes too much actions to start recording.
And then I ask you how to perform that and now you say that you don't know how to do it.
I'm sorry but I don't know the answer to your question but you know the answer to my question.
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No sorry, in the first post I said that i KNOW it's possible with notes but I don't know that procedure (not interested in that procedure either).
I'd like to start recording phonecalls with a single press on a hardware button.
Still I didn't find an answer on that.
Maybe some else please....
Re: How to record a call with a single press on hardware but
mauce said:
Hi,
I'm looking for a too that allows me to assign a hardware button of choice that starts/stops recording an phonecall.
I'm really looking for a lightweight tool that can do it.
I know notes can do that, but that takes too much actions to start recording.
I just want to be able to record a phoneconversation quickly as soon as I think I need to record it.
Thanks in advance
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http://www.pocketpcmag.com/blogs/index.php?blog=3&p=513&more=1&c=1&tb=1&pb=1
That looks interesting indeed, but it seems you need to sign up for some kind of service to use this....
mauce said:
That looks interesting indeed, but it seems you need to sign up for some kind of service to use this....
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You don't need to. Please read the article thoroughly.
would that do: "http://www.softtrends.com/products/livepvr/livepvrwmsp.htm"?
6f6c6567 said:
would that do: "http://www.softtrends.com/products/livepvr/livepvrwmsp.htm"?
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It does, but PMRecorder is free - why not use it?
I just tested PMRecorder. It's an OK piece of software does exactly what it says it would, however due to hardware limitations of PPC described in the link provided by menneisyys, call recording is only available with speakerphone ON and even than record quality is pretty low.
Too bad
I just audionotes. and set it to the memo button. Once a call comes in I can hit that button. I guessing may take about 3secs to fully load and then just answer the call. Works great with no problem. Don't need to use speaker phone. I tried it just using the phone, with the wired headset and the BT headset and al work pretty damn good. Although the other side volume will be about 30% lower then yours still can hear them just fine. But from my own test I wouldn't expect to record a conversation over 35min long. For some reason it ended around that amount of time on me but yet I still had tons of space left.
Zaiaku said:
I just audionotes. and set it to the memo button. Once a call comes in I can hit that button. I guessing may take about 3secs to fully load and then just answer the call. Works great with no problem. Don't need to use speaker phone. I tried it just using the phone, with the wired headset and the BT headset and al work pretty damn good. Although the other side volume will be about 30% lower then yours still can hear them just fine. But from my own test I wouldn't expect to record a conversation over 35min long. For some reason it ended around that amount of time on me but yet I still had tons of space left.
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Hard to believe it worked. I too have a Wizard (G3 - do you have a G4? Anyone knows whether G4 no longer has this problem?) and a Universal & also tested a MDA III in this respect and am absolutely sure none of them make it possible to record the other party.
Are you ABSOLUTELY sure you've listened to the right recording with the wired / BT headset test?
I have no idea wehter I have a G3 or G4 so if you know how I can checc for you I'll be glad to let you know.
I've tried it many times and it continues to work. Especially since I never talk on the phone itself. I always use a headset (wired and BT). So there isn't a way I could get it mixed up.
Now I remember something from another thread that 1 person was having problems installing the app. After installation the programs works fine but the person couldn't activated it. Maybe that is required not sure.
I'm currently using version 1.11 and I noticed there's a 1.15 version now.
Also I notice this on their page:
Windows Mobile Smartphone
Best for using with Windows Mobile 5.0
Note that phone calls are recorded only on WM 5.0 Smartphones. We recommend you to start recording phone calls after you have pressed the answer button.
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Which is wierd to me. I always started the recording prior to calling or answering.
And the PPC version reads:
Windows Mobile 2003 (SE)/Windows Mobile 5.0
Best for using with Windows Mobile 5.0
VITO AudioNotes does not record phone calls on Pocket PC due to operating system restrictions.
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Now this is something I find interesting after reading this. After soft reset the phone boots up and even says PPC. But yet I mremeber Cingualr always called it a smartphone instead of a ppc when they first got them.

Dialer with a "hands free" button?

Okay, so I enjoy the fact that when I'm making a phone call I have a nice large button on the screen that lets me switch between speaker on/off.
What I would love, however, is a button that allows me to turn on/off my bluetooth hands free option. There is this ability if I hit menu and then select it from the list, but I'd prefer to have it as a nice big, easy to hit button on the screen.
Is there any dialers that have this?
Any answers to this, as I would dearly love it as well!
Are we alone?
You mean to say with almost 400 readers, Red & myself are the only ones with this request? Please, there has to be someone out there with the wherewithal to code this into a dialer?
Same here!
I'd like something like this as well.
A lot of people would like a feature like this. It's just others are either too lazy or too shy to show their support so you never know how many people might actually want this.
+1 from me. Just need the BT feature to turn off A2DP so when people call me while im listening to music i dont have to reject them.. then hit bt on my today screen and call them back.
I think it would be cool. I think a LOT of peoples issues with showing support is more based on the general philosphy of a lot of the threads here. Ie. if you cant say something productive or help somehow dont say anything. I follow that mostly, especially in threads about development of new programs. Unless I myself and trying it out and have a bug to report I tend to stay fairly quiet.
That's just my two cents on why so many people have read it and not said anything. Clearly if over 400 people have come here its probably because they thought they could try the dialer out!
RedRamage said:
What I would love, however, is a button that allows me to turn on/off my bluetooth hands free option.
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Isn't it enough to push the green button on your handsfree device in order to transfer the call to that device while on call?
Sascha
SaBo said:
Isn't it enough to push the green button on your handsfree device in order to transfer the call to that device while on call?
Sascha
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In short Sascha: No, well at least not with the Motorola headsets and car kit I use... sometimes this works, but more often than not it will hang up the call, even if the call hasn't been transferred to the Bluetooth unit, which is both frustrating and quite odd.

Delay in answering calls

This is te 1 thing that is generally annoying.
I find that when i answer a call using the sliding function, the vibration carries on for a second or 2 even though the call has been answered. Does anyone else get this problem? is there a reg fix?
Regards DB
i have the same problem with french rom
matou25 said:
i have the same problem with french rom
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So maybe a universal problem. There must be a way to fix it in the registry?
So it seems that this problem exists on only 2 mobile handsets. Hmmm and here i was kinda hoping for a possible solution.
If anyone has an idea how to solve this please let me know
Cheers
DB
It's Win Mobile. There have always been lags and delays. Just make sure that the phone application is always running in the background ie don't let the X-close program exit the phone app when you tap 'X'. Also make sure you keep a decent amount of memory free.
Pretty much all you can do until some streamlined cutdown ROMs come out.
This always drove me mad with my Tytn II - good to see they've put so much effort into fixing such an obvious problem.
The other nice feature of the Tytn II was sometimes - usually when the phone was plugged into a USB cable and syncing in the office - answering a call would result in a second or two of deafening SPEAKERPHONE before the call got routed through to the earpiece (so a split second of the caller's "hello?", or usually something more embarrasing, would echo around the office). Did that carry over as well?
I remember seeing an option in one of the config apps here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=441 (4th and 5th stickies) where you could fix this delay.
Boinng said:
This always drove me mad with my Tytn II - good to see they've put so much effort into fixing such an obvious problem.
The other nice feature of the Tytn II was sometimes - usually when the phone was plugged into a USB cable and syncing in the office - answering a call would result in a second or two of deafening SPEAKERPHONE before the call got routed through to the earpiece (so a split second of the caller's "hello?", or usually something more embarrasing, would echo around the office). Did that carry over as well?
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I know this well! lol i was sure there would be a fix though.
tboy2000 said:
I remember seeing an option in one of the config apps here http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=441 (4th and 5th stickies) where you could fix this delay.
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Thanks mate will take a look.

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