wifi fine but wont work on secured system - Networking

OK US Robotics MAXG router. All set up, laptops etc working fine. I got the mini s and the xda2i working on it too.
Then i went and stuck the security on it
WPA2 and WPA (PSK)
TKIP and AES
entered all the correct stuff on the computers and working ok.
with both the XDA's it says trying to connect but wont.
I ve looked in the distruction books for both 2i and mini s but they just say you might need to enter some password!!!
so mini s and xda 2i settings are
general tab
network name 'xxxxxxxxx'
connects to 'the internet'
network key tab
authentication 'wpa-psk'
data encryption 'tkip'
network key 'correct entry for my sys'
key index 'greyed out'
802.1x tab
nothing changeable but set to
use ieee 802.1x net access control
eap type 'smart card or cert
they both sit there saying my network is available but wont connect.
anyideas whats going on??

Network Prob
I recall a similiar problem some time ago and as far as I can remember I solved it by changing the encryption to WEP. It's worth a try.
Cheers.
Phil C

cheers.... dont want to go to WEP as its crackable in under 5mins by a novice now!!
Seems a bit silly that the XDA's have the apparent ability to do this encription but then won't work.
Pete

Is WEP really that hackable??

heres the info i found on it.
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=42
http://blogs.zdnet.com/Ou/index.php?p=43
http://www.lanarchitect.net/Articles/Wireless/SecurityRating/
worth a read.

I'm using the exact same router with the same wireless security config. While other clients can connect to the router using WPA or WPA2 with TKIP or AES encryption, my TyTN simply refuses to connect.
After some intensive trial/error, I figured out the problem to be the TyTN itself, which simply can't get associated with the router when both TKIP and AES is selected on the router. Changing the WPA encryption to TKIP only while keeping both WPA and WPA2 authentication on the MAXg router solved the problem (no need to use the less secure WEP encryption).
Hope this helps.
HT

cheers, i have been playing with my settings too. I found that i had to change to WPA and TKIP only to get he Mini s to connect but hte 2i still wont The only thing i really use the connection at home for is to transfer files if im on the laptop rather than having to go to my main puter and plugging it all in. Its a pain as i tend to use the PDA's at work for stuff. Ill just have to get off my ass n go up stairs and do it now. Its a pain and it should work but im learning that these things aint all they should be

ConnorP said:
Is WEP really that hackable??
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You bet it is, Try backtrack 2.0 is self booting linux build for "testing network security"

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Universal and WPA - is it on the way ? Any rumours ?

Hi all !
As far as i can understand there is no WPA support on Universal.
Did anybody hear about the plans or is there any third-party software that provides WPA functionality on Universal ?
Regards.
Orange SPV M5000 flashed with JASJAR_WWE_11353_137_10402.
Baudy.
huh?
currently supported is WPA-PSK, WPA-TKIP and WPA-WEP...
If you meant WPA2 with AES: I dont know.
I had asked (much) the same question before buying my O2 EXEC and found the answer here
http://certifications.wi-fi.org/wbcs_certified_products.php?TID=2
Select High Tech Computer Corp (HTC) and Submit and you'll see the Exec listed as (if I remember correctly) PU10. It claims to have
WPA™ - Personal
WPA™ - Enterprise
EAP-TLS
Mike
c0rnholio said:
huh?
currently supported is WPA-PSK, WPA-TKIP and WPA-WEP...
If you meant WPA2 with AES: I dont know.
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How to achieve it ? I can see ONLY LEAP in my wireless config.
Can you help ? Did you try ?
can anyone help with this issue?
I am not sure as to how to proceed (and my obvious insufficient knowledge of wireless networks is not helping...).
I am currently using WEP, so my educated guess is that if I set WPA on my router I will be automatically prompted to sign-in with my WPA encrypted password.
Can I have confirmation of this; and also - do I need to enable/disable any setting on my xdaExec before I attempt to connect my device using WPA.
I use WPA-TKIP
I use WPA-TKIP with my JasJar. Not sure exactly how I set it up, but can't remember that I struggeled with it.
Believe I just setup WPA on 3Com router and when JasJar connected I was aksed to enter the code/passkey, and then it worked. ...possible I did some changes on JasJar setup also...?
Actually I had some more problems due to that I also use MAC filthering on the router, and if I added my JasJar's MAC AFTER setting up WPA, it did not work, and I had to remove from JasJar and reconnect again, type passkey, and then it worked. ...but if you don't use MAC filthering, this will not be an issue.
If you struggle with it, I can remove and add it again when I get home, and note down the steps.
Thanks mrGydar :!:
I appreciate your effort.
Before you re-configure your setup - I'll attempt to alter my setup to WPA and see how it goes. If it doesn't work out within a day - I'll let you know!
OK
Just for info, settings on my JasJar is right now in settings for my homenetwork:
Authentications: WPA-PSK
Data Encryption: Passkey
Best of luck, and if U struggle, let me know, and I'll write down the steps.
baudy2 said:
...As far as i can understand there is no WPA support on Universal....
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Don't speak too loudly. I don't want my o2 Exc to discover it's been doing something it shouldn't for the last 6-weeks. :lol:
However, I have my Exec configured for my own and four different client's networks using WPA-PSK, TKIP and MAC-filtering, so it definately *does* work. I have the habit of presetting the connection settings since my key is 27-alphanumeric characters and it's a pain typing that in blind.
There is something strange depending upon which way you go about the configuration. On a few occasions, I've clicked the Authentication dropdown arrow to find only Open or Shared options listed - no WPA or WPA-PSK in sight. I've then turned the wireless off/on, sometimes reset, or just gone back into the configuration screen a different way and the options were back again.
It's usually happened when I've been rebuilding the system after an enforced hard reset, so I've never been in the mood to track the problem further - too busy trying not to smash the damn thing against the wall! :evil:
correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't WPA security for 802.11g and up.
This model supports 802.11b only so it will not do WPA.
afaik this would mean WEP is the only option.
JaySea said:
correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't WPA security for 802.11g and up.
This model supports 802.11b only so it will not do WPA.
afaik this would mean WEP is the only option.
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Don't think so. I have a couple of clients with laptops only capable of 11b and they connect at 11b to multi-speed wireless/ADSL-routers using WPA-PSK without problems. Probably depends upon the age of the router device's firm- and hard-ware. Think one of my earlier ZyXEL models had only WEP when it arrived, but then a firmware update added WPA.
People
I am happy to say - I have just checked it out and it works :!: :!:
Earlier I reconfigured my router from WEP to WPA, and a few minutes ago I switched the wifi-ON, on my Exec - it just located my home network and asked for it's WPA catchphrase (password);
I didn't have to configure anything else. Just to be certain I used the internet explorer to surf a bit - and it did so with no problems whatsoever!
JaySea said:
correct me if I am wrong, but wasn't WPA security for 802.11g and up.
This model supports 802.11b only so it will not do WPA.
afaik this would mean WEP is the only option.
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I must admit I had trouble finding out where you configure the wireless adapter in the Universal... But there's no worry because WPA and everything else can be configured here...!
Firstly ensure that the wireless adapter is switched on in the Wireless Manager... FN + -> key,
Once this has done, the wireless adpater will scan for networks in range. At this point some users will be prompted for the WPA key as mentioned in previous posts (this didn't work for me).
However, if you go to Start... Settings... Connections... Network Cards now, there will be a Configure Wireless Networks tab (wireless tab)... Here you can click Add New to enter the Network Name, and specify the WPA key via the "Network Key" tab.
Hope this helps some new users of the Universal!

unable to connect to WLAN

Hi!
I do have problem to connect the device (o2 xda mini S) to WLAN. It recognizes the network, asks for the WPA-PSK key and then attempts to connect - but fails.
If I configure the device with a static IP this IP shows up during the
connection process after a while but the device isn't connected anyway.
If I use DHCP I get no IP ever.
I also tried a very simple 8 alphanum character key.
What may be wrong here?
I hope you get an answer soon, because I have the same problem. Enter the key, then no connect. I also tried it with security turned off on the router, no connect. This thing connected every time before 2.26 ROM update.
bump - having the same issue
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Hope there's a reply; having the same issue but I think it's router specific too. I am on Dlink DI-614+ and a friend of mine who has DI-524 (i think) has no problem connecting reconnecting.
if you figure out a way to get it to work, please PM me... I have not figured out this problem yet.
I might try to disable all of my router settings (WEP).. but that would only mess my already configured other devices up.
Stupid question, but is it a B/G router or is it configured to only do one of them ?
Well, I got it to work by disabling encryption and leaving the AP all open...
So, apparently the software has some WPA-PSK-related bugs
Same thing with 2.24a Mr.Clean. Open AP works fine, and any encryption messes the whole thing up. The connection is done, it even gets the IP - and continues to blink arrows and no data comes through.
Windows Mobile only knows TKIP but as I was using AES and wanted to continue using AES on the other machines I configured the router to provide "TKIP and AES". Well, this didn't work but TKIP only actually works now.
I've been having the same problems, could connect to unsecured networks, no problems. The thing would just refuse to connect to my home WLAN (Belkin 54G set to B/G), secured with WPA-PSK and TKIP data encryption. However, just updated the router's firmware from the Belkin website, and BINGO!!!! It found the router, I entered the key and immediately connected, fast too. Just try updating the firmware of your router!
I agree on the router upgrades. And some routers are just crap, sorry to say. I've had bad luck with Belkins and Netgears. Linksys and D-Link typically give me much less problems. You also need to make sure that you installed the registry settings to enable G networks on you device (of course)
I have a Sonicwall using WPA-PSK with no problems.
I personally like molski's tweaks to make the necessary registry settings on my device ... http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=58438
Hope I was of some help.

WPA-PSK with Linksys. Don't work?

Hi!
I have a linksys WRT54G3G wireless router and has set it for WPA encryption on the wireless network. But my HTC TyTN (Hermes) wont connect to it.
If I just say yes on the connection dialog, choose internet and the punch in the WPA key the device hangs and I have to soft reset.
If I create a wireless setting for my network on before hand and then turn radio on my device only says connecting. But never connects to my network.
WEP works fine on the device. And my laptop connects without any problem to both the WEP and WPA encrypted networks.
Does anyone have an idea what's wrong and how I can fix it?
Best regards,
\\ aste
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Hi!
I have a linksys WRT54G3G wireless router and has set it for WPA encryption on the wireless network. But my HTC TyTN (Hermes) wont connect to it.
If I just say yes on the connection dialog, choose internet and the punch in the WPA key the device hangs and I have to soft reset.
If I create a wireless setting for my network on before hand and then turn radio on my device only says connecting. But never connects to my network.
WEP works fine on the device. And my laptop connects without any problem to both the WEP and WPA encrypted networks.
Does anyone have an idea what's wrong and how I can fix it?
Best regards,
\\ aste
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Don't know if these will help and you may have seen them already
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=281297&highlight=linksys
particularly last post
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1029279&highlight=linksys#post1029279
Mike
It's working for me...
HTC TyTN with Linksys WAP-54G.
I use WPA-PSK with TKIP. All is working.
I've just selected such a parameters in setup window in my TyTN, set the key and all started to work perfect.
Hi mikechannon!
Thanks for the threads! I haven't seen them, but unfortunealy they don't help much. I have MAC filters turned on. But I don't have the same router. May be that's the problem. I'll try contacting linksys support next week. My device works fine with WEP encryption. But I'd like to secure my network a little bit more...
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aste said:
Hi mikechannon!
Thanks for the threads! I haven't seen them, but unfortunealy they don't help much. I have MAC filters turned on. But I don't have the same router. May be that's the problem. I'll try contacting linksys support next week. My device works fine with WEP encryption. But I'd like to secure my network a little bit more...
\\ a
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Hope it works out.
Mike
hi,
I have had the same problem with my WRT54GS, and solved by choosing WEP security, but now after seeing this thread and following links I installed recent firmware from Linksys and... pronto! WPA / TKIP works smoothly. Thanks, folx.
mnez said:
hi,
I have had the same problem with my WRT54GS, and solved by choosing WEP security, but now after seeing this thread and following links I installed recent firmware from Linksys and... pronto! WPA / TKIP works smoothly. Thanks, folx.
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Great, I was hoping that link to linksys would help www.linksys.com,
Mike

is my hd that don't work?

hi, i connect my blackstone on my wifi lan with wpa2 protection. but with wififofum or every sniffing program i see my wifilan and others lan(all encrypted wpa2) with wep protection.. dont' understand it.. any suggestion on it?
might need a bit more info...
but as a starter for 10, I would suggest:
Temporarily turning off any and all encryption / security on your wifi router (ie make it open to anyone to connect to).
This means turning off WPA / WEP encryption and any MAC key checks - so make sure you note down the settings before hand!
See if your HD will now coonect (it should!) - obviously you need to remove the WPA / WEP key from your HD too.
Assuming it does connect ok, turn back on your encryption on the router one step at a time, and make the same changes on the HD.
So eg, turn on WPA / WEP on the router.
Turn on WPA / WEP on the HD.
Does it still connect?
Whilst this might not solve the problem, it will at least highlight where the problem is - which then gives us a better chance of fixing it
hope that helps!
just for note - my HD happily connects to my wifi, running both WEP and MAC key security, so it ought to work!
thanks for your reply
i think that maybe there is a misunderstanding, my hd is connected to te wify, at home etc. the problem is, when i use wififofum(example) it search only wep lan and not wpa. in office we have a wifi encripted in wpa but with ssid cached. the boss have an iphone wit wififofum installed on it and is able to watch our wpa2 wifi. me not! because with all sniffing programs that i tryed i'm able to watch only wep wifi.
sorry for my terrible english

Kaiser Wifi 802.1X settings help needed pls

Hi
I'm using a T-Mobile MDA Vario III. I would like to be able to connect to my home network via the wifi/wlan (what's the difference).
On my router I use WPA/WPA2 with PSK authentication - not 802.1x.
I ave never been able to configure the VIII to connect, it always wants use this 802.1x thing and it's greyed out.
Is there some way of getting rid of it? If I use open network it connects ok.
Please help I am heading for a breakdown!
thanks
Mike
I think you are missing how these things work.....
WPA is either PSK or Enterprise - PSK you enter a key (Pre-Shared-Key), Enterprise the key is dynamically assigned. This is the same for WPA2. The reason it is greyed out when you select WPA or WPA2 is it isn't an option, with WPA-PSK & WPA2-PSK a manual key is mandatory.
If you use WPA or WPA2 (Enterprise) then you MUST have a centralised Authentication mechanism in place (RADIUS).
Does this help?
Andy
Ummm... not really, sorry.
I've attached a couple of screen shots if that helps.
On my router (it's a Belkin) the ieee 802.1x is off when I select wpa2 and psk (i don't have anything for tkip, and have no idea about what the other settings mean when it's not psk).
It seems incredibly complicated this wifi caper. I've never manged to get to connect to any other network except mine with no security.
dinny66 said:
Ummm... not really, sorry.
I've attached a couple of screen shots if that helps.
On my router (it's a Belkin) the ieee 802.1x is off when I select wpa2 and psk (i don't have anything for tkip, and have no idea about what the other settings mean when it's not psk).
It seems incredibly complicated this wifi caper. I've never manged to get to connect to any other network except mine with no security.
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No, the reason the options on the 802.1x page are not available is because they don't apply when using Pre-Shared-Keys.
TKIP & AES are the encryption methods used, WPA/WPA2 is the authentication method, they are independant of each other but reliant on each other as part of the standard. i.e. if you want to use WPA-PSK authentication then you have to use TKIP or AES encryption.
I am still confused over your question? I have a HTC Kaiser and it is configured to access multiple networks - one uses WPA2-Enterprise/AES, a couple use WPA-PSK/TKIP, another one uses WPA2-PSK/AES and a few are just Open with no encryption. They all work though.....
Andy
OK, let's approach it a different way round then. How do I configure my VIII to connect to my router, using a secure method?
Thanks
dinny66 said:
OK, let's approach it a different way round then. How do I configure my VIII to connect to my router, using a secure method?
Thanks
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On your Wireless router or Access Point you enable WPA-PSK or WPA2-PSK for your WiFi network (SSID) and enter a Pre-Shared-Key, depending on the device you may or may not get options for the Encryption type, if you do it will either be TKIP or AES. My access point allows me to use either, however older equipment may only support TKIP, even older equipment may only support WPA-PSK as well and not WPA2-PSK.
Lets pretend you use the WiFi SSID 'MY-WIRELESS' and use WPA-PSK Authentication with TKIP Encryption and a PSK of 'My-H0m3-W1F1'. Lets also assume you aren't making this a hidden network (Broadcast SSID).
On you VIII device you then enable the WiFi (or Wireless its the same thing) when you see the 'MY-WIRELESS' SSID you select it which should open the 1st page of the configuration. Select 'Connects to: The Internet' and click next, then select 'Authentication: WPA-PSK' and 'Data Encryption: TKIP' and enter ''My-H0m3-W1F1' in the 'Network key:' box. Click next, ignore the next page and click finish. That's it.
Andy
That's it! Just like that. I don't believe it.
Thanks muchly!
The Belkin router uses wpa or wpa2 and aes( according to belkin site). Authentication is via 802.1x or PSK, not both.
I did have the VIII set for tkip originally, and wpa2-psk. Set at WPA-psk aes and it went straight on.
Thanks so much Andy. Ur a diamond.

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