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Does any one know where I can get the software to switch views on the xda2 screen between portrait & landscape formats ? When I am trying to view spread sheets it becomes extreemly frustraiting having to scroll accross every time I want to view things !!! :x
hey mate,
when i was still using my xda1 i tried out 2 kinds of software; ny-something (forgot the name) and another one called jslandscape. the ny works better but i never got the correct settins to make the appearance right (based on resolution). and the worse part is to uninstall the sucker you have to do a hard reset. now that i'm using an xda2 i haven't heard of anyone successfully using either of the 2 softwares i mentioned; a friend of mine had to do a hardreset after trying it out on his unit. my 2 cents worth is that be VERY careful when you decide to try out orientation software; make sure you back up your data well.
cheers
robson
Have a look at http://www.nyditot.com/
I never testesed it but it seems very good (pocketpc award 2003)
bye
Carlo
I use nyditot quite a lot, at 480x360 landscape for terminal services and web browsing, and it works perfectly. Note that there were issues with PC2003 until recently, so make sure you get the latest version.
I beleive you can uninstall it without a hard reset. However, you need to do a soft reset between screen changes which can be a bit irritating.
Also, the SIP is scaled too, so can be a bit fiddly to use at finer resolutions, although I rather like it tiny.
I just wish PPC devices would start to use, and properly support, the new 640x480 screens that are becoming standard on Palm5 devices.
I also use the nyditot software. I first started using it when I had an iPAQ but since it works with WM2003 is was able to migrate to my XDA II
Hi Everyone!
I just joined this forum as I've just found some answers I've been looking for!
I've got an XDA2i - the O2 branded version, after a very happy partnership with an XDA2 since early 04.
I've just gotten rid of the O2 active software after hard resetting and setting up in corporate mode. Unit seems to run 'quicker' - however I'd like to gauge some opinions.
1. Is there a way of getting back the battery meter and Profiles functions? if not, I guess 3rd party software would achieve this - but which ones are recommended? ot thought highly of here on this forum?
2. I'd like to get a better media player, is there any addons to Windows media that include a graphic equaliser? and allow playback of more video files and enhanced codecs? if not, again, whats the general consensus here as to which application works well?
3. I (slightly shamedly) have the hooky version of TomTom 5, I envisage more driving coming up as I get the ball rolling on my new business startup and will be getting my own registered copy. I've noticed the 'freeze' problem with TT5 and am now hoping that without the active software, it'll run properly. I looked through a posting that mentioned a 'patch' ? will I need this? another posting mentioned TT are aware of problems running TT5 on the XDA2i - Is it just best to wait till a new release comes out that takes care of this issue? Has anyone got the XDA2i and TT5 running smoothly?
4. Is it worth updating to the latest ROM? I've read a few of the posts and it seems the newer version has issues!
5. Finally, I know theres those utilities that look after quite a few functions and are what should have been included in Windows Mobile anyway. Something called 'Sqb Pocket plus'? is it any good? I want to be able to put more icons on my 'desktop view' be able to switch between applications easily and be able to 'close' programs properly. Any recommendations on good performing software?!
Overall, I'm very happy with my previous XDA2 and now this XDA2i, I try to perform a reset every 2 days or so, and other days it just keeps on going for 3-4 days before needing one. Apart from that, I've found the unit to be reliable, well performing and a great all in one unit.
I use a Scandisk 1GB SD card (normal speed one), along with a silicone carry cover, looking now to see what else I can install and use!!
Cheers for now! Hope I get some feedback! sorry for the long post!
Dennis! West London UK!!
Hi there, while I don't own an XDA 2i so I can't help you much on specific issues regarding that device I can certainly help with the first two questions.
1. For a battery meter I strongly recommend you check out Spb Pocket Plus, it comes with a battery and memory monitors and is highly configurable to do a lot of things. I've heard there are some issues with version 3 of the software with regards to the XDA II, I don't know if this carries over to the IIi as well, but I'm running 2.5 and have no problems so check it out!
2. As for a media player I'd recommend TCPMP (Formerly Beta Player) it will play all sorts of files, including those encoded in divx and xvid, and it's totally free too so it can't hurt to check it out!
Hope this helps and I'm sure others in the forum can help with the more device specific questions!
Hi
I like you had an XDA2 since early 04 and upgraded to the 2i in Feb this year. Good move, though in a few months you'll wish you'd waited for the Exec ;o) I'm ditching my 2i soon for it!
1) The o2 stuff comes as all-or-nothing, once it's uninstalled it's all gone I'm afraid. I would recommend Pocket Plus from SPB (www.sbpsoftwarehouse.com) as mjames_84 has suggested. It's probably the most widely used utility in the PPC market and that is for a good reason. You can have battery meters on the Today screen, but also with P+ across the very top of your screen which is always present. Very useful. There is also Journal Bar, which provides something similar plus one or two others (http://www.omegaone.com/journalbar/default.htm). www.handango.com or www.pocketgear.com will allow you to see all the alternatives.
2) Beta Player is OK and is better than it appears, though I personally would recommend either Conduits PocketPlayer, or PocketMind's PocketMusic. I think these are considered the Big Two commercially speaking. My preference recently switched from PocketPlayer to PocketMusic. Very customisable, easy to use and the extra features are what gives it the edge over Conduits'. It's also good value for money.
http://www.pocketmind.com/pmfp.htm
http://www.conduits.com/products/player/
3) TT5 with the 5.1 upgrade plus PC_Arcade's Tomtom POI patch should remove the freezing. It certainly seems to have with mine. Don't download the first one you see though, once you've installed 5.1 (though you may have to search for a "hooky" one elsewhere as I've heard the genuine 5.1 update removes whatever hooky 5.0 installation cracks are in there) look towards the end of this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=24268&start=25 for the 5.1 POI patch and install it. I still have the issue with POIs showing causing lockups but I believe that's the phone / SD card problem even though it's a Lexar 32x 1GB. If you turn POIs off but set the POI warning feature to show the ones you need to see, you will still be warned as you approach them.
4) Always upgrade to the latest ROM. Is your 2i straight from o2 or have you bought it third party? If it's from o2 then download the new ROM from http://www.my-xda.com/xda2i_soft.html and install as normal. If it's not then you'll need to follow the instructions set out in various sections of http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...ostorder=asc&highlight=straight+imate&start=0
5) Pocket Plus as mentioned earlier is the best in my opinion, though there are options such as iLauncher and Journal Bar, amongst others. Search for them in Handango or PocketGear, though I'd highly recommend trying out P+.
Hope this helps. Don't worry about long posts...everyone on here is always happy to help.
Cheers
Ant
Sound
For better sound quality:
After upgrading my Himalaya to WM6, PocketMind's PocketMusic versions 3 to 5 don't work properly anymore.
I've tried Conduits Player but the sound is worse.
TCPMP doesn't play WMA although it says it does.
I've tried GPS Player but the sound quality is not still perfect.
Not even satisfied with iMusic withMP3.
Can't find replacement for PocketMusic.
Until somebody recommended SRS WOW HD.
It's like having sub woofer in your ears!
It works great with plain Media Player; no need for equaliser.
(Just set profile to Headset, Treble Reducer.)
Im a hapy user of the Universial.
Today is the Wizard released to some shops.
The specification sounds great for such a small device!
I'm not shure whats the advantage of the Universal.
Only UMTS and a slightly bigger screen? UMTS only ruins my runtime...
What do you think?
The VGA screen is 99% why I'll get a Universal. If the wizard offered that, I'd probably buy one of them instead. As it is, my options are VGA PPC + phone or Universal.
Same here. If the Wizard had a VGA screen I would have bought one of them instead of the Universal.
Why does everyone want a VGA screen? Surely all you use it for is a phone and email?
I was deeply impressed by the screen of the Universal.
I often have to use the terminal client to login to windows server. The VGA-Screen is a big helper. (Maybe sometimes a very smart person allows terminal client to run full screen)
But I'm not shure if the screen is a sufficient advantage to the wizzard. The Wizzard may "canabilize" all Universal efforts...
I need to use the web more than I'd like on my XDA and QVGA is a real pain. Mostly, though, I need to run some bespoke software that really doesn't work too well in QVGA - VGA will make a world of difference. Also, when I need to use remote desktop, it will actually be usable!
IMHO the Wizard and Universal serve different purposes. 3G beats the hell out of GPRS and the keyboard of the Universal is stellar compared to the Wizard one. And I haven't even mentioned the difference between 3.6" and 2.8" screen. Almost a full inch across. For server management and maintenance, I would never buy the Wizard. For me the wizard would be to take to the pub or the sporting club when I do not need the full features that he Universal offers me. (so stop comparing apples to pears ;-))
Ah I see, so is the market for this more aimed at IT Pros than the general consumer?
Sounds about right, saldous. Top-end power users (like IT professionals), or just plain old show off's!!
IS there much difference in performance running 5.2 instead of 5.1 on the Universal?
Is there any difference at all?
This new version has the following new features and improvements:
Improved phone functionality for your device.
TomTom NAVIGATOR is now compatible with Microsoft Windows™ MOBILE 5.0 devices.
http://www.tomtom.com/support/category.php?ID=3&Language=1&FID=3361
Don't know if i may post it here. but check this out:
http://rapidshare.de/files/8475711/TomTom_Navigator_update_V.5.21_cracked.rar.html
excellent stuff, been waiting for this, but i cant get it to work, where do i place the cracked exe???
stf06 said:
This new version has the following new features and improvements:
Improved phone functionality for your device.
TomTom NAVIGATOR is now compatible with Microsoft Windows™ MOBILE 5.0 devices.
http://www.tomtom.com/support/category.php?ID=3&Language=1&FID=3361
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Thanks. But TT 5.1 works fine on my EXEC without any problems already. I was wondering if there is an actual difference in experience? Because I dont want to fix what aint broken unless there are new features or a performance improvement, etc...
So has anyone with the 5.2 update installed experienced any significant improvement please??
tyl said:
Thanks. But TT 5.1 works fine on my EXEC without any problems already. I was wondering if there is an actual difference in experience? Because I dont want to fix what aint broken unless there are new features or a performance improvement, etc...
So has anyone with the 5.2 update installed experienced any significant improvement please??
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Just tried the cracked one, and I can't see a difference against 5.1. The screen still draws visibly slowly and the UI is still as limiting and unsophisticated as ever.
I can't see any benefit in upgrading if TT is working already for you.
Looks like TomTom will be waiting a while longer to get my upgrade fee. I'm happy to upgrade legitimately from my legitimate v3, but I don't consider it to be a viable option at the moment. TomTom seem to have lost their way on PocketPC software since they are apparently unifying the software to match their TomTomGO platform. Sadly that leaves those of us with sophisticated multi-purpose devices wondering why we can't have the flexibility of version 3, in which we could keep the Windows Taskbar on the screen and actually use the damn operating system at the same time!
Not good, TomTom. Not good at all. :evil:
Thanks SiliconS.
You have no choice but to wait for the upgrade as I can't find any link to do this on their web site. Does anyone know of any other way of upgrading?
I have version 3 & I refuse to buy version 5 other than through an upgrade.
Mike
I have paid for the upgrade, but the cracked version saves having to mess around with their annoying registration system.
I find the UI clean and elegant. It allows you to quickly do what you need, without fuss. It also makes switching from other TomTom's (Go etc) easy. I find version 5 far better than 3. The maps are much improved too and include all of Europe. Easily worth the upgrade price.
(The screen update is slow in landscape mode, but fine in Portrait.)
i got this (on the wizard) and i still get the same backlight turning off when running it problem. and the hex edit doesnt work with this exe (well not the same values anyway)
thefunkygibbon, you need to hex edit the exe and find the 4 instances of backlight and change them to bbcklight.
Works great on wm5.
hack done
Tomtom 5.2 with hexa change
I have noticed no difference in operation over 5.1
The only change I can see is that it installs via active sink (sic) and ignores the instruction to install to the SD card by placing the application in RAM :evil:
not working correctly
this works for me but cant get any voices to work (i put them on the storgae card from original disk)
it will not find my gps either any ideas
clive
sparkyxda said:
I have noticed no difference in operation over 5.1
The only change I can see is that it installs via active sink (sic) and ignores the instruction to install to the SD card by placing the application in RAM :evil:
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Yea, those bozos at TomTom excelled themselves again, didn't they?
http://www.howardforums.com/showpost.php?p=6309013&postcount=9
Apart from what was said on Howard Forums, which I agree with (clueless TomTom devs!), the update seems to add the ability to install without having to copy the CABS onto the phone.
Apart from that, no difference. If you start it up in landscape mode, it'll run in portrait mode.
One other hint that TomTom are clueless idiots - the compatibility list shows the Jasjar and the MDA Pro as being compatible. However, when I requested an activation code from them they insisted the M5000 was not compatible. They wouldn't accept that the M5000 and the XDA Exec were the same hardware and base image!
In tomtom V5.21 better bluetooth management and u can install directly by activesync with WM2005. For the voices you must to install with the original disk and then you can choise the voices otherwise copy tomtom directory contain the voices in "my documents"
dazza12 said:
Apart from what was said on Howard Forums, which I agree with (clueless TomTom devs!), the update seems to add the ability to install without having to copy the CABS onto the phone.
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Precisely. Activesync install was the one obvious thing they had to fix, and they cocked it up. Funny how every other WM5 developer in the world seems to manage it.
Apart from that, no difference. If you start it up in landscape mode, it'll run in portrait mode.
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Precisely. Broken landscape mode. No support for soft buttons. So what's this magical support for WM5? Everything works the same (or doesn't) as in 5.1.
One other hint that TomTom are clueless idiots - the compatibility list shows the Jasjar and the MDA Pro as being compatible. However, when I requested an activation code from them they insisted the M5000 was not compatible. They wouldn't accept that the M5000 and the XDA Exec were the same hardware and base image!
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Clealry, TomTom employees are a complete bozos, and their management couldn't give a sh*t because they've got your money. No wonder people are so keen to rip them off.
kojiro said:
u can install directly by activesync with WM2005.
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Yes, but the morons f*cked up the code so it won't install to the Storage Card. One CAB doesn't ask, the 2nd CAB asks but ignores your answer. So unless you move everything by hand with File Explorer, that's 3MB of your precious main memory wasted. Don't forget it's your money that's paying them to write that crap.
tomtom xda exec
i cant get voices to work or my bt gps helpppppppppppp ,ripping my hair out ive tried all the socalled fixes but no goooood any help would be really great thx
Right, had my XDA11 for a year and a half now and getting bored. Just got a few questions about the Exec to help me decide. I'm in the UK, and on O2:
1. Is the flip and twist gimmick useful?
2. Is there much software compatible with the sideways screen and the qwerty keypad? And does it have to be specially written for Windows Mobile 2005?
3. Will my old apps from my XDA11 work on it?
4. Would I have to resize all my videos from Media Player that are currently 320x240 or does it fit them to the screen size?
5. I'm clueless about WIFI. If I bought a wifi adaptor kit for my desktop PC, could I lie in bed surfing the net from my Exec on a WIFI connection?
6. Is Internet Explorer better featured than the previous versions? I always found it a bit lacking (no forward button, no side-on option, poor image viewing capability, etc). Or would you recommend a 3rd party browser?
7. Does Media Player support MPEGs yet?
8. Are MP3 ringtones supported?
9. Is it also called the Jasjar? I keep seeing that word spouted around
10. WHERE CAN I GET ONE THE CHEAPEST? It's £149.99 on O2 site, is that the cheapest? Also do I need to wait for my contract to come up for renewal again or can I get one now?
Thanks in advance for any help
1. Is the flip and twist gimmick useful?
- i don't use it. but it could be good if you don't use the keyboard alot
2. Is there much software compatible with the sideways screen and the qwerty keypad? And does it have to be specially written for Windows Mobile 2005?
- most wm software works on landscape, however not much is specially designed. Some games are. apps like ie and word use it automatically.
3. Will my old apps from my XDA11 work on it?
- most will. utilities not specifically made for wm5 probably won't work.
4. Would I have to resize all my videos from Media Player that are currently 320x240 or does it fit them to the screen size?
- it works by default in 320x240. Only programs that 'know' about vga use it. There is software (e.g. ozvga) which forces non-vga programs to work in vga. some work well, others have a font too small, others don't work.
5. I'm clueless about WIFI. If I bought a wifi adaptor kit for my desktop PC, could I lie in bed surfing the net from my Exec on a WIFI connection?
- yes. As long as your desktop pc is set as a gateway presumably to a asdl or cable modem. most people use a wireless router with built in modem, as this is more convenient and won't require your pc to be switched on (netgear 634, linksys dt614, etc)
6. Is Internet Explorer better featured than the previous versions? I always found it a bit lacking (no forward button, no side-on option, poor image viewing capability, etc). Or would you recommend a 3rd party browser?
- yes, but its still mostly behind the opposition. You are better off with something like netfront. Some people here use opera, but I find it crashes all the time.
7. Does Media Player support MPEGs yet?
- I use tcpmp (betaplayer) and pockettv (for mpeg 1).
wm10 support mpeg4 but not mpeg2:
http://www.microsoft.com/windows/windowsmedia/player/windowsmobile/faq.aspx
8. Are MP3 ringtones supported?
- don't know
9. Is it also called the Jasjar? I keep seeing that word spouted around
- yes. generic name is universal. also called orange m5000, qtek 3000, o2 xda exec, tmobile mda pro
10. WHERE CAN I GET ONE THE CHEAPEST? It's £149.99 on O2 site, is that the cheapest? Also do I need to wait for my contract to come up for renewal again or can I get one now?
- I found online cheapest for o2, £150 + £19 a month for 50 mins (12 month contract) + £30 a month for 200mb or £17 a month for 35mb. Tmobile does webnwalk (inc 40mb) for £22 a month, but tmobile mda pro is locked, xda exec is not. also you can get exec from o2 shop for £150 + £30 a month data only (if you don't want the phone).
Thanks in advance for any help
everything you need to know is on this forum. just read read read. Also look at pocketgear, clickgamer, freewareppc or handango (select o2 exec) for compatible applications
10. WHERE CAN I GET ONE THE CHEAPEST?
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On the T-mobile site they are doing the MDA pro on flext 30 (about £19 pm after discount) for £129
Add to that the unlimited data add on for £7.50 pm - and you're cooking !
Grrr, has to be on O2 I'm afraid Cheers anyway
Hmm, wondered where my other reply had gone. I posted it in the wrong thread, d'oh:
Cheers for that.
So if I use an older WM2003 app, will it stretch to fit the new screen size?.
Can the "open" mode (landscape, with keyboard) be used for anything or just for typing? I'd probably want it for texting, internet, and Word. Presumably I can still watch videos in widescreen without having to open it up?
Lastly, is the touch screen still active when open, or is all control given to the keyboard?
GaZ said:
Hmm, wondered where my other reply had gone. I posted it in the wrong thread, d'oh:
Cheers for that.
So if I use an older WM2003 app, will it stretch to fit the new screen size?.
Can the "open" mode (landscape, with keyboard) be used for anything or just for typing? I'd probably want it for texting, internet, and Word. Presumably I can still watch videos in widescreen without having to open it up?
Lastly, is the touch screen still active when open, or is all control given to the keyboard?
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Apps by default see 320x240. So any app that uses 320x240 will work fine. In addition, if the app is written to use windows fonts, although it will only 'see' 320x240 its fonts will be smoothed automatically by wm5 for the 640x480 screen (if cleartype is selected). Whether an app works or not more depends whether it relys on a wm2003 characterstic which is no longer there. Most apps work, most utilities don't.
You are misunderstanding the difference between landscape and portrait. They are just presenting a different resolution to the app. 240x320 (or 480x680). Any well behaved app. will adapt fine, just as in Windows XP if you resize the window the app still works ok. Badly written apps or ones that were written for very old versions of the pocket pc might work, but you may find odd effects, e.g. the right 1/3 of the screen is unused in portrait mode.
You always have the choice of the 'pop-up' on screen keyboard or the physical one. Although its a bit silly to use the pop-up one when the main keyboard is available.
Go into an o2 shop (or any other mobile shop) which stocks the universal and have a play, they normally have demo versions available.
rgds
GaZ said:
Grrr, has to be on O2 I'm afraid Cheers anyway
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in that case ...
http://shop.uplands.co.uk/acatalog/XDA_EXEC.html
You ARE a business customer arent you ? :wink:
second from the bottom - £137 on a £13.99 24 month contract
Although it is a crap contract
I also recall there are some good offers on the o2 "student" site
( you ARE a student , aren't you :wink: ) :lol:
Ok, I was in the same boat as you, had the XDAII, hacked to WM2003SE, got sick of the bugs, and upgraded immediately for wm5 and the new tools. Never looked back. But to answer your specific questions:
1. Is the flip and twist gimmick useful?
Wonderful, love it, not for the flip and twist, but for the keyboard. I also like the clam approach to protect the screen. It also adds enormous geek factor. I really got sick of the tapping on the screen to type, and there is no way I could get into the sms or email thing tapping the screen. the keyboard makes typing and communication via a keyboard so much easier.
2. Is there much software compatible with the sideways screen and the qwerty keypad? And does it have to be specially written for Windows Mobile 2005?
There is a lot of software becoming now far more popular for WM5, but perhaps only say 50% of the software on the market, but those are usually the mickey mouse software apps, the serious contenders have updated most of the apps for this.
3. Will my old apps from my XDA11 work on it?
Some, maybe, but not all. Most of the apps usually have an upgrade policy. GPS systems struggle and need to be hacked. I was unable to get Navman to work. SPB has new releases for most apps, resco has been updated. So you may have to pay for an upgrade.
4. Would I have to resize all my videos from Media Player that are currently 320x240 or does it fit them to the screen size?
You can if you want them in full screen, change them to 640x480, but the existing camera still only uses 320x240 so they only use about 1/4 of the screen. This is the most common complaint, and my biggest gripe. An app called TPCMP will stretch the videos for you to full screen. Its free.
5. I'm clueless about WIFI. If I bought a wifi adaptor kit for my desktop PC, could I lie in bed surfing the net from my Exec on a WIFI connection?
Yes. You can also use it to share folders, copy your videos and pictures to your computer, stream music and videos from your PC to PPC. This is the biggest bonus and favourite bit for me, along with 3G fast internet.
6. Is Internet Explorer better featured than the previous versions? I always found it a bit lacking (no forward button, no side-on option, poor image viewing capability, etc). Or would you recommend a 3rd party browser?
It hasnt changed. You get a little bit more text to a screen, but no extra functions. There are 3rd parties, but I dont recommend or use any other. I find it is sufficient and acceptable, but not state of the art.
7. Does Media Player support MPEGs yet?
Not sure, but if you want full screen, you will probably use TCPMP anyway. Everybody else does.
8. Are MP3 ringtones supported?
Yes. I use them.
9. Is it also called the Jasjar? I keep seeing that word spouted around
Yes, O2 Exec, Imate Jasjar are the same hardware, and 95% same software. O2 has three different releases, useless, next to useless, and barebones basic, which is similar to the Imate. Both have crap support.
10. WHERE CAN I GET ONE THE CHEAPEST? It's £149.99 on O2 site, is that the cheapest? Also do I need to wait for my contract to come up for renewal again or can I get one now?
I paid $1,500 AUD to pay cash up front so that I could change and use whatever network and service provider I want, when I want. Its about 600 pounds (sorr my keyboard doesnt have a pounds symbol I am on the bottom end of the world).
I think you need to understand some of the other issues:
1. Speed, slower
2. Pemanent storage, limited but handy
3. Bluetooth better, but not good enough yet
4. Updated ROM has push email, but not the released rom
5. Landscape awesome
6. Camera, ok, not brilliant, but significantly better than XDAII
7. SD Card rather than Mini (on other devices)
8. No backpack, no VGA output
9. Two cameras, second for video telephone
10. Hot Keys for quick access to primary functions
11. Impoved Office tools word and excel
12. Better sound
13. Lacks external display, so you dont know who is calling unless you keep it in PDA mode
14. Extra size and weight makes it bulky
15. The case it comes with is crap.
Eitherway, no matter what, I do recommend the Universal device, though I was happy with the XDAII overall, I really really really wanted a proper Qwerty keyboard, and built in WIFI.
Hope it helps
Cheers
Simon
THAT was the reply I was looking for I needed it laying out for me in idiots terms, lol. I'm getting so pumped about this now. Thank you
Lastly, does anyone know if I can upgrade to this on my current contract NOW rather than waiting for renewal time again? I'm half way into my 2nd 12 month period but I took £70 credited to my account in place of a new handset at the 12 month mark. I'd be willing to pay the £149.99 up front but I understand this is a subsidised price, and common sense would dictate to me that I can't do it
Just phone O2 and ask them when you are eligable for the upgrade from the mobile its 202, landline 08702 410202, The Exec is a great device, very impressed with it - worth the outlay without a doubt - Mike
Just a hint for the Internet. Use the NetFront, it is an awesome browser. It supports true VGA resolution (640x480) without any registry hacks/SW resets and it shows almost all the webSites as on the normal computer ! (if they are wider then 640px, then you have the horizontal scroller, so the site layout doesn`t get broken)
Bundled Internet Explorer is absolute crap. When you`ll try NetFront (or Opera), you won`t come back
Gaz you will probably want a data alowance, considering O2 claim to be about to charge us for GPRS access. You could consider getting a new data only contract at the level you require and then swap the SIMs for phone use and heavy data use.
So you end up with 2 contracts, but it's only the same as adding a data bolt on to your current contract in terms of monthly recurring cost. The SIM swapping is a pain, but potentially worth it as O2 will not entertain an early upgrade.
Gajet said:
Gaz you will probably want a data alowance, considering O2 claim to be about to charge us for GPRS access. You could consider getting a new data only contract at the level you require and then swap the SIMs for phone use and heavy data use.
So you end up with 2 contracts, but it's only the same as adding a data bolt on to your current contract in terms of monthly recurring cost. The SIM swapping is a pain, but potentially worth it as O2 will not entertain an early upgrade.
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you can add a data bolt on to a monthly contract with no implications for contract period. you can also ask o2 to raise the data speed to 384k. this is far preferable to having 2 sim cards.
rgds
Well, phoned them the other day and they said I need to wait til July. Not too bad I suppose, but I'm not known for my patience, lol.
I might look into getting a data bolt on as well. Cheers lads